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Valkyrie Vixen
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Posted - 2012.12.07 13:43:00 -
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Nice going CCP. After I read that you are still pushing with the AI attacks drones update by "lowering" the hate I got fed up. Well I got news for you. This wont change a thing. Hear this, from someone who multi tasks more than few accounts with droneboats, it was already a big clickfest of launching drones, setting to assist/guard, recalling, changing drone type, doing that all over and again on next spawn and etc.
As it is now, you got to screen all your alts every second, clicking different window, recall, repair and buy/load new drones if you lost some. Spare me your pathetic comments of "adapt" solo ship gallente flyers or someone who uses them just to kill those few elite frigs and not a primary dps weapon. You can adapt, and avoid major losses, but the amount of effort you put in compared to some missile drake/tengu difference is just too big. I challenge you to give me few strong advantages to use drone based ships in any activity related to PVE. Anything that would give an edge over other gun platforms.
As for someone who invested 10mil SP into drones and 10mil SP for gallente ship command this is not acceptable. I don't want my pve to be intense and tiring as pvp. This should be relaxing, almost brain dead activity that I would do to earn isk for PVP. The new AI affects basically only drones. Maybe some few guys who uses logi alts. If I wanted to go hardcore I would go to Nulls or Wormholes to do HARD plexes with a lot of incoming DPS, which would require more attention and knowledge and ships.
I hope you read this CCP FoxFour and bring some sense in your daily department meetings. There are ALOT unhappy customers. I personally gonna stop subbing my accounts. I am not gonna retrain to another ship just because of broken patch. Too bad I paid yearly subs, so I still have to wait out 6 months.
You want to make missions challenging and interesting? How about putting more effort and redesigning whole content from the ground up with an engaging story? Play skyrim for once. PVE is big part of eve you want it or not. Ships are not free and everyone must grind for them.
P.S. I swear, hire a team of fresh students with more experienced TL to pickup ALL ideas of PVE content from forums and implement them while removing old and aged current system. You will have more subs than WOW. |
Merouk Baas
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Posted - 2012.12.07 13:48:00 -
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First!
- just about as useful as the OP |
Complex Potential
No Fixed Abode
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Posted - 2012.12.07 13:50:00 -
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Valkyrie Vixen wrote:This should be relaxing, almost brain dead activity that I would do to earn isk for PVP.
Um... I think the changes were brought in for this exact reason. The mechanics of the game should not allow one to earn significant isk while in a "brain dead state".
Just sayin' |
Remiel Pollard
Devlin Security
Devlin Alliance
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Posted - 2012.12.07 13:50:00 -
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tl;dr "i can't eve properly" thread
nothing to see here, people
You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |
Alua Oresson
Demon-War-Lords
Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2012.12.07 13:52:00 -
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Valkyrie Vixen wrote:I challenge you to give me few strong advantages to use drone based ships in any activity related to PVE. Anything that would give an edge over other gun platforms.
Forsaken hubs don't have frigates (at least the Serpentis ones don't) Release drones, aggro, collect loot. You are welcome.
http://pvpwannabe.blogspot.com/ |
flakeys
Angels of Anarchy
AL3XAND3R.
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Posted - 2012.12.07 13:52:00 -
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Yeah they really ****** up the caldar with the missile nerf.Drakes and tengu's are crap now ...
Ow wait sorry i'm confusing the 'my race is dying ' threads now ...
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BoBoZoBo
MGroup9
Quantum Cafe
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Posted - 2012.12.07 13:52:00 -
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Ohh wow - they are already caving into semi AFK mission runners?
Damn shame.
At least you admitted you are loosing drones due to lack of wanting to work harder as opposed to it really being overpowered.
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Valkyrie Vixen
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Posted - 2012.12.07 13:53:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:tl;dr "i can't eve properly" thread
nothing to see here, people
missed the part where effort put for drone users is not adequate like for tengu kids like yourself. try again |
Valkyrie Vixen
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Posted - 2012.12.07 13:56:00 -
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BoBoZoBo wrote:Ohh wow - they are already caving into semi AFK mission runners?
Damn shame.
At least you admitted you are loosing drones due to lack of wanting to work harder as opposed to it really being overpowered.
not exactly. I dont want to work hard, but that is not the issue. Issue is that I work hard, and some other with not a turret ship works less hard. |
Warde Guildencrantz
TunDraGon
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Posted - 2012.12.07 14:00:00 -
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flakeys wrote:Yeah they really ****** up the caldar with the missile nerf.Drakes and tengu's are crap now ...
Ow wait sorry i'm confusing the 'my race is dying ' threads now ...
do people not understand that javelin HAMs do as much as their old heavies and still have way enough range for almost any non-null sec blob scenario?
if the ship can put enough DPS on you from >35km to put you at risk, you likely would be screwed in a drake any way, because they would just warp off prior to dying even if you had damage on them |
Remiel Pollard
Devlin Security
Devlin Alliance
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Posted - 2012.12.07 14:02:00 -
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Valkyrie Vixen wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:tl;dr "i can't eve properly" thread
nothing to see here, people missed the part where effort put for drone users is not adequate like for tengu kids such as yourself. try again
Never flown a Tengu. How ironic you should refer to me as a kid while simultaneously making childish assumptions.
Try again.
You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |
Derek Quaid
Discreet Bounties
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Posted - 2012.12.07 14:03:00 -
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Complex Potential wrote:Valkyrie Vixen wrote:This should be relaxing, almost brain dead activity that I would do to earn isk for PVP. Um... I think the changes were brought in for this exact reason. The mechanics of the game should not allow one to earn significant isk while in a "brain dead state". Just sayin'
This logic would dictate a very severe nerf to the Drake, Tengu, and Machariel in the near future.
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Nelran Estemaire
No Spoon Inc
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Posted - 2012.12.07 14:06:00 -
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You could always team up with another players and do your pve, I see your issue with multiboxing droneboats though, have you tried limiting what boat uses which drones? 20 lights have no place on the battlefield imo.
Drone users came best out of this expansion in my opinion, ewar has more or less killed guns against blood raiders/sansha, and the nerf to heavy missiles make it harder to hit frigs, forcing missile users to switch ammo, which takes 20s each time. I would rather from my 1-ship-per-human point of view watch the overview a bit than not hitting at all. |
Remiel Pollard
Devlin Security
Devlin Alliance
287
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Posted - 2012.12.07 14:12:00 -
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Nelran Estemaire wrote:You could always team up with another players and do your pve, I see your issue with multiboxing droneboats though, have you tried limiting what boat uses which drones? 20 lights have no place on the battlefield imo.
Drone users came best out of this expansion in my opinion, ewar has more or less killed guns against blood raiders/sansha, and the nerf to heavy missiles make it harder to hit frigs, forcing missile users to switch ammo, which takes 20s each time. I would rather from my 1-ship-per-human point of view watch the overview a bit that not hitting at all.
Speaking of EWAR... are you aware of the four new skills that you can now train to improve your ship sensor strength, reducing the effects of the newly-buffed sensor dampeners and freshly-nerfed ECM?
Gravimetric Sensor Compensation [Caldari & Guristas ships]
Ladar Sensor Compensation [Minmatar & Angel Cartel ships]
Magnetometric Sensor Compensation [Gallente, Serpentis, & ORE ships]
Radar Sensor Compensation [Amarr, Blood Raider, & Sanshas ships]
The one you want to focus on depends on what racial ships you're flying. Get those trained up, and watch the magic ;)
You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |
Inquisitor Kitchner
Galaxy Punks
Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2012.12.07 14:32:00 -
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Wow, OP uses several accounts at once which is now harder to do.
I feel for the OP.
"If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli |
Mr Pragmatic
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Posted - 2012.12.07 14:48:00 -
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Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:Wow, OP uses several accounts at once which is now harder to do.
I feel for the OP.
all dem feels.
Maybe this world is another planet's hell. -Aldous Huxley
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Doddy
Excidium.
Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2012.12.07 14:51:00 -
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Multiboxing is not supported in eve. |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2012.12.07 14:53:00 -
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Never been much of a drone missioner myself and if i had to, sentry drones. Pop cap them off.
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Drew Solaert
Wildcard Inc.
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Posted - 2012.12.07 14:57:00 -
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All I'm seeing is crying over the fact you can't afk isk.
Funny how you have to play the game to make isk. Crazy almost.
Seriously we need to start a movement to threaten unsubbing if they revert it back to the old way, to cancel this whining out.
I lied :o
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Lipbite
Express Hauler
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Posted - 2012.12.07 15:03:00 -
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Complex Potential wrote:Valkyrie Vixen wrote:This should be relaxing, almost brain dead activity that I would do to earn isk for PVP. Um... I think the changes were brought in for this exact reason. The mechanics of the game should not allow one to earn significant isk while in a "brain dead state". Just sayin'
Translation: EVE doesn't welcome casual gameplay, look for other games to relax. |
Some Rando
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.12.07 15:17:00 -
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"PVE competitiveness" lol |
Lex Alandar
Nexus Advanced Technologies
Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2012.12.07 15:19:00 -
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good job CCP, nerfing hisec multibox mission runners, while at the same time buffing 0.0 vindi/mega blaster ratting (never have to pull drones in hubs anymore...here I come 65m ticks)
to OP, drone boats are grand, but blaster boats are better, I think you know what to train for. |
Complex Potential
No Fixed Abode
Mildly Sober
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Posted - 2012.12.07 16:44:00 -
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Derek Quaid wrote:Complex Potential wrote:Valkyrie Vixen wrote:This should be relaxing, almost brain dead activity that I would do to earn isk for PVP. Um... I think the changes were brought in for this exact reason. The mechanics of the game should not allow one to earn significant isk while in a "brain dead state". Just sayin' This logic would dictate a very severe nerf to the Drake, Tengu, and Machariel in the near future.
Can't argue with the logic. |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
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Posted - 2012.12.07 17:23:00 -
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Not so stealth "Im unsubbing (#) accounts unless CCP changes (problem)" thread # CANIHAVEYOURSTUFF?
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
No More Heroes
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.12.07 17:33:00 -
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Valkyrie Vixen wrote:You want to make missions challenging and interesting? How about putting more effort and redesigning whole content from the ground up with an engaging story
You mean that flavor text in the agent window that everyone ignores as they click accept and complete? Or is it that annoying popup window that gets closed immediately in certain sites?
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Complex Potential
No Fixed Abode
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Posted - 2012.12.07 17:41:00 -
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No More Heroes wrote:Valkyrie Vixen wrote:You want to make missions challenging and interesting? How about putting more effort and redesigning whole content from the ground up with an engaging story You mean that flavor text in the agent window that everyone ignores as they click accept and complete? Or is it that annoying popup window that gets closed immediately in certain sites?
I almost feel sorry for the guy who writes all of those. |
YoYo NickyYo
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.12.07 17:50:00 -
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Hate to say it, but OP does have a minor point.
CCP pushes multiple accounts on their customers. They have trouble getting new players, so their answer was, get everyone to buy more accounts.
If they now make it much harder to operate multiple accounts, even if it's only one race, well, it's probably not going to help subscription numbers.....
"Working as intended" |
KrakizBad
Eve Defence Force
Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2012.12.07 19:17:00 -
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Valkyrie Vixen wrote:I don't want my pve to be intense and tiring as pvp. This should be relaxing, almost brain dead activity that I would do to earn isk for PVP.
Try mining.
www.minerbumping.com - because your tears are delicious |
Jame Jarl Retief
Murientor Tribe
Defiant Legacy
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Posted - 2012.12.07 19:21:00 -
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KrakizBad wrote:Valkyrie Vixen wrote:I don't want my pve to be intense and tiring as pvp. This should be relaxing, almost brain dead activity that I would do to earn isk for PVP. Try mining.
He said "almost braindead". 
Seriously though, there's an argument to be had either way. They can make PvE as hard as PvP (almost). But what happens to rewards then? I mean, if a slight screwup or two on your part ends up leading to ship loss in PvE, then the reward needs to be in line with that risk. I could live with that. But if they pull some crap like make PvE take as much or more effort than PvP, and still pay pennies? No thanks. |
Titas Agor
TITANS OF PEACE
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Posted - 2012.12.07 19:24:00 -
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The OP does actually have a point, regardless of what all the PVP nerds in here actually think... Multi-Boxing / Mutli-Acounting with severals characters has actually been hindered by this AI change towards drones big time, no matter which way people try to rationalize it, its made it very more difficult...EVE DOES support multiboxing otherwise CCP wouldn't be advertizing "The Power Of TWO" promotions every other month !!! There are plenty of ways that you could really buff hi-sec to be a little more less suckage then it currently is right now.. but CCP and the majority of players in EVE simply do not want it.... Everyone see's EVE has the hardcore MMO, the harshest MMO out there, and the real enjoyment comes from PVP, going out to nullsec, joining alliances, getting your ass handed to you 2 or 3 systems in nullsec or vise versa, whoever has the biggest blob... and untill this line of thinking changes, PVE will always been limted in this game, having a different CSM wont change this if the majority of players dont even want it...
Incursions = complete waste of time unless your in a particularly huge fleet....
Wormholes = same as incursions, unless your in a nullsec PVP corp, you'll never succeed inside a wormhole because you'll never get to hold onto the assests long enough before a roaming gank squads find you... there is no protection in WH space cept yourself because its nullsec....
LvL 5s = Should be both high and low sec, there is MORE then enough stuff in nullsec, and low sec, to keep people busy and if they wreck their reputation, then thats their fault if they cant get back into hi-sec space because of it, rewarding piracy with awesome missions like that is a disgrace, especially when you got some amazing ded plex's out there as well, and on top of that, you have pirate faction missions out in nullsec as well... level 5s should be high sec also as right now, there isn't a single reason why high sec corporations should bunch together to do missions as there is next to nothing in ways of rewards for doing so.... level 5s can be tough enough as it is especially with all the neuting and damage output as well so risk vs reward is already inside the mission itself, never lone adding the bs that comes with low sec as well.....
Level 4s are completely useless unless you do them solo... get any group of just 3 players dont even get a mil each cept for like 3 missions... completely useless for corporation events... COMPLETELY useless.. |
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