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hired goon
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Posted - 2005.05.11 11:53:00 -
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Great to attack in, a swarm of frigs. Fast, powerful, fun. It's all very well and good until one comes after you.
I was just wondering if anyone has any good eyed deers about a tactic against these annoying clouds. They run too fast to really be able to attack. They orbit outside of smartbomb range. And aside from the obvious answers of "get your own frig fleet" or "get a bs fleet", there has to be some kind of tactic for use here!
Where are the hellstorm modules when you need em I say :/
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Typherin laidai
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Posted - 2005.05.11 11:57:00 -
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Warp bubble & Snipers
each bs should be able to pop a frig in 1st salvo
keep jumping from spot to spot not a lot they can do.
hmmm if they have a cov-op's though you could be massacred 
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idimmu69
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Posted - 2005.05.11 12:00:00 -
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You gotta love the frig fleets. It's more of a rush than fighting in battleships. You either get on a few killmails, or die very fast. It's all luck (and hopefully skill). There's a great feeling when a group of 3 or 4 friggies take down an apoc 
Oh yeah, in response to your question of how to counter them in your battleship... you could fit 2 small guns on your battleship. Yes... you would be sacrificing damage output against bigger ships, but you would scare off some of the frigs.
Another tactic would be... DRONES. Most frig pilots (even the crazy suicidal ones) have issues when they see a swarm of drones chasing them. Heavy drones aren't recommended for this, as interceptors are too quick for heavies. Medium at most, or a crap-load of smalls.
Hope that helps.
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Jungle Jim
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Posted - 2005.05.11 12:04:00 -
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Cruisers...
Use cruisers... they are cheap, easy to setup antifrig, and you can destroy frig fleets. Use smaller guns on the cruisers allowing you to put a massive tank on them.
The only problem is bs's can hit cruisers unless they are right inside there optimal. But hey, there is no 1 ship pwnz all setup... thats the whole idea of the game 
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Riddari
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Posted - 2005.05.11 12:30:00 -
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Supertanked dominix with target painters, webifiers and heavy nosferatus.
Add a drone or hundred and you'll be fine.
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Mind
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Posted - 2005.05.11 12:39:00 -
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haha, reminds me.
I was in K3, my "home" and decided to go out mine some veldspar (yeah... well i needed 1m trit) and tank up fitt out and go to belt.
start mining, npc spawn.. hell ya! Attack em, with my ogres.. while i tank.
in comes friggs.. 5-6 of em. start attacking me, and i like "wtf" scrambled and stuck
So i shout in alliance "eeeelp" and help comes, 20 minutes later..
during that time i tank 1 conquistador BS, 4 cruisers npc and 1-2 npc friggs. Aswell as the attacking 5-6 enemy frigates (interceptors and assault friggs)..
I manage to scare some of em off, only having drones and 1 webb and my 6 mining lasers.
they where impressed that i could hold 20 minutes vs BS spawn aswell ass their friggs. they asked me if they could get the killmail and also told me they just ganked a Armageddon. Like, we take out a geddon in 2 minutes and there we come and need to fight 20 min to take down a lousy DOMINIX
aswell i have a nice record of killing frigates in dominixes.. always take down 3-4 at a time, useing like 4 nosf, drones, webb and 2 scramblers.
you sure kick ass in domis VS friggs, try it some time, domi is the solution to all your frigate killing needs.
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Shirei
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Posted - 2005.05.11 12:45:00 -
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Edited by: Shirei on 11/05/2005 12:45:50
Against your standard frig blob consisting of two thirds interceptors and one third ass frigs. A fleet of mainly cruisers and assault frigs should work fairly well, if you are organised and can stay together. If not, your ships will get picked off one by one.
BS don't work particularly well because they can't chase effectively (so it's easier for individual BS to get separated from the rest and die) and it's not like the frig fleet is going to attack the BSes camping at the gate. In smaller numbers, BS don't stand a chance against your usual ~15-20 people frig blob because they'll be dampened to hell. If you only have a few ships, you could try baiting with a combo of a few heavily tanked ships to draw fire and a few snipers ready to warp in at ~100k from the bait ships.
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Bazman
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Posted - 2005.05.11 12:51:00 -
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Edited by: Bazman on 11/05/2005 14:25:12
Man, we had fun breaking up one of Foundations frig fleets in HLW a couple of days ago, it went straight through our system into catch to kill stuff, in the mean time, we totally covered a couple of gates with Mobile WD's, of the 15-16 frigates that came back through HLW, we killed 5 of them, all assault frigs, the Interceptors and most of the basic frigs with MWD's managed to get away, but all the assaults that entered the system were pretty much doomed.
MWD's > Frig Fleets
You could also try what i will refer to as "Doing a Dober."
Zealot > 10 Frigates
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Rodge
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Posted - 2005.05.11 13:05:00 -
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I'm mainly a ceptor pilot and I can tell you there are tonnes of defenses against a frig fleet. It's just most BS pilots don't want to use them.
Heavy nos/heavy neutralizer = dead frig
Webber
All small guns (yep, people fit like this to get me  )
Lots of light drones (heavy can't hit a frig unless he's webbed and medium aren't very good either).
There's plenty of other ways...
Personally, I think ceptors/AFs attacking (and killing) BSs is the one of the most fun things you can do in the game. Friggie fleets 4TW!!!!
[ 2005.04.17 00:34:30 ] Nagilam > u better leave Rodge, u will not gank any1 else 2nite......
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Corin Walker
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Posted - 2005.05.11 13:16:00 -
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I have never used it but I have thought about it, using a catalyst with 8 small rails or blasters, couple of webbys and a tracking comp lows dmg mods, and by by frigs
You should be able to scare off a frig fleet when ya pop one or 2 of them with this set up use 1 webby on each frig total of 2 frigs and 4 guns per frig should be able to down a couple quick havent tried it yet but in therory it sounds good.
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Stealthbite
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Posted - 2005.05.11 13:21:00 -
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 Originally by: Rodge
Personally, I think ceptors/AFs attacking (and killing) BSs is the one of the most fun things you can do in the game. Friggie fleets 4TW!!!!
Well in that case we must nerf Frig fleets back to the stone age
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Nafri
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Posted - 2005.05.11 13:27:00 -
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cyclone > frigs
Wanna fly with me?
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Dionysus Davinci
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Posted - 2005.05.11 13:29:00 -
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Edited by: Dionysus Davinci on 11/05/2005 13:35:10
Edited by: Dionysus Davinci on 11/05/2005 13:33:29
Destoyers would kick frig fleet ass. To bad noone wants to use them :/ Escpially when you can get the same thing with a BS and a better tank.
Even a Brutix is better for killing frigs. Load up on some rails, warp in at 60 with sensor boosters and tracking computers and WTFpwn them.
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Omatje
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Posted - 2005.05.11 13:47:00 -
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When you are flying a BS, nos/neut and drones are your friends against frigates.
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Latex Mistress
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Posted - 2005.05.11 13:48:00 -
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Originally by: hired goon
there has to be some kind of tactic for use here!
Not necessarily in order:
Eagle
Vagabond
Diemos
Ishtar
Any/all of the above w/ a faction webber and all your frig problems seem to vanish...
If ECM is an act of aggression, why am I not on kill mails?
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Muad 'dib
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Posted - 2005.05.11 14:02:00 -
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Originally by: hired goon
There has to be some kind of tactic for use here!
A raven + heavy nos
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Deepeh
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Posted - 2005.05.11 14:06:00 -
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Snipers work, smartbombs work, an indy serving as bait works, there's a lot of things that work. Pick one.
If you know there's a frigate fleet inbound, set up an apocalypse or armageddon with a couple of large smartbombs and a tank (2 large repairers and hardeners or something).
Get to their location or wait at a gate, wait until they all jump on top of you - I mean, that's not a question of "if", but a question of "when". Anyway, try to tank them for a bit until they are confident enough to come close, hit F1 to F4, carnage ensues, pick up loot, go away, feel good.
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Shin Ra
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Posted - 2005.05.11 14:45:00 -
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Raven:
3 true sansha smartbombs, 4 siege launchers, 1 heavy neut.
some sort of tank
some sort of fitting stuff (pdus)
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Crusher166
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Posted - 2005.05.11 15:00:00 -
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cruiser ghost fleets
oh wait, they got nerfed a long time ago.
they are fun... or i really shoud say they were fun
sorry about the negative tone, i just had to say it. nothing else will ever be as fun.
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Kumq uat
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Posted - 2005.05.11 15:11:00 -
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Me little pirate alt and his group use frigs and cruisers almost exclusively. Fun stuff, and ****es the BS people off heh
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Aegis Osiris
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Posted - 2005.05.11 16:29:00 -
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Cruisers and BC's set up properly can do well, even alone. Someone else mentioned the same thing; mount frig guns and a big tank.
(*note to self, webber, NOT disruptor ya dolt!*  )
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Unbeleever
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Posted - 2005.05.11 17:08:00 -
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Edited by: Unbeleever on 11/05/2005 17:08:48
A destroyer(catalyst), t2 frig guns, dual webbers(named if poss), Tank no frig problem...
P.S tracking comp t2, and dmg mods
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Dionysus Davinci
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Posted - 2005.05.11 17:14:00 -
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Wish my Catalyst came with that many mid slots.
Also, you don't have a tracking problem on a destoyer because of the bonuses.
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DrunkenOne
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Posted - 2005.05.11 17:14:00 -
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anyone suggesting a destroyer to kill an assault frig, let alone a frig FLEET, needs to have their head examined.
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Siobhan Ni
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Posted - 2005.05.11 17:15:00 -
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You could setup sniper apocs so that each apoc is at optimal range from the others. So if the frigs try to gank one apoc, the others can blast the hell out of them
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Unbeleever
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Posted - 2005.05.11 17:20:00 -
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Originally by: Dionysus Davinci
Wish my Catalyst came with that many mid slots.
Also, you don't have a tracking problem on a destoyer because of the bonuses.
Yeah my brain is fried right now I am at work hehe
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Cummilla
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Posted - 2005.05.11 17:24:00 -
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I like the domi idea the best. although anything that has a webber will have a chance to take down the friggies with enough tank to back it up....
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.05.12 02:49:00 -
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Frig squads aren't the flavour of the month, they've been uber since forever.
Kestrels with cruise anyone?
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Danks
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Posted - 2005.05.12 04:13:00 -
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Originally by: Dianabolic
Frig squads aren't the flavour of the month, they've been uber since forever.
Kestrels with cruise anyone?
Yeah we been flying these forever, not just this month...
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.05.12 04:17:00 -
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Originally by: Danks
Originally by: Dianabolic
Frig squads aren't the flavour of the month, they've been uber since forever.
Kestrels with cruise anyone?
Yeah we been flying these forever, not just this month...
har har, the point was that frigate squads have always been effective, in one way or another, not just "this month".
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