2)Alot of players that dwell with the lower security systems that abide there are jealous of the success of there High Security counter parts.

3)They hate the fact miners can make ISK while for little work. While the hater constantly loses money to their countless losses, in their PVP sport.

4)PVP is a sport for only the rich in Eve online. While more cool heads rather build something up then tear stuff down.

Proof please.
Do you have access to the CCP subscriptions and analysis of alts on each account, or are you just lying?

I use something called common sence. Everyone in the CFC has at least one alt in empire with most having more than one. I myself have 4.

Most people in 0.0 have an empire alt for doing things so we can easily say that there are at least the population of nul in high sec that are alts. Now thats before we add in the alts of WH and lowsec players and the all the people who base out of high sec for FW and the like. Logically the high sec population is not what you think.

Unless you have proof that high sec is populated with only high sec players.

I recall CCP posted how the average EvE player had 2.5 subs.

Let's assume that TEST got 12k players or so and GS about 9000.

Nah. They have no idea and can only guess, at best. The number you're referring to is the one they can count: the number of characters per account.

You could do a calculation of accounts from how many accounts are linked to the same email, same credid cards etc.

Nah. They have no idea and can only guess, at best. The number you're referring to is the one they can count: the number of characters per account.

Player estimates have put the number of accounts per person at about the same level, but it's all very circumstantial.

That assumption seems rather arbitrary.

Taking what you call The best anyone has ever been able to guesstimate posted number it's even steeper.

That'd mean that the two alliances that are most active campaigning against other security status areas they'd count for a tiny minority over the active playerbase. Even if they had triple the subs of any other EvE player they'd still be minor.

So why do they pretend to take the game in their hands and twist it at their leisure?

The New Order, on the other side, are complaining every single day while leaving for the media a big fat nothing.

Pretend? They are twisting at their leisure, because that's what the game offers: a world for you to twist.

At any rate, my point was that you were using a very arbitrary number multiplied by another arbitrary number to try to make half an argument about one region of space having a voice (a point that had nothing to do with the post you were responding to) without really arriving at anythingGǪ

GǪaside from the occasional Gǣ$baillions destroyed in gankGǥ news that appear every now and then, just before someone comes on the forums and complaining that ganking is out of whack.

These are also more or less the two alliances who create the most hugest majority of complaints threads.

Gonna have to adress this comment. We dont make any of these threads, just reply to them.

Pretend? They are twisting at their leisure, because that's what the game offers: a world for you to twist.

At any rate, my point was that you were using a very arbitrary number multiplied by another arbitrary number to try to make half an argument about one region of space having a voice (a point that had nothing to do with the post you were responding to) without really arriving at anythingGǪ

GǪaside from the occasional Gǣ$baillions destroyed in gankGǥ news that appear every now and then, just before someone comes on the forums and complaining that ganking is out of whack.

In the end high sec is fine as it stands. Low sec and 0.0 are player run if there lack of content this the players fault. 0.0 is flat out player run if its dead blame the players that are down there. There are less big fleet fights for the reason the other allinace cant put aside there own egos to knock back say TEST OR GOONS..

Basically EvE used to be like "Star Trek: original series" while EvE now it has become a dry and routine: "Deep Space Nine".

The only ones hating on high sec are the one's that wish to force you to play the way they do.they hate that they can't ruin your day

Yep one post out of the hundreds of bitterposts about our evil antics. The last few days GD has been stuffed full of bears whining about bounties and drone munching missions. Which makes a change from all the "nerf evil gankers" whines.

Yep the bears do want to force everyone to play EVE their way. Just look at the above post fkor an example.

Damnit, they haven't nerfed ganking enough yet? You gotta try harder, CCP, people are still being ganked.....

I'm not looking to make people play one way or another, I'd just like to see higher gameplay values attached to the interactions that already exist. High sec ganking is currently an activity that doesn't offer a decent fight to either side, has predetermined outcomes for both sides (assuming competent gankers) and encourages the use of throw-away alts who are consequence-immune. It's got to be possible to improve upon that for both the aggressor and the target.

What makes you think we want a good fight when we gank someone?