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Royal NASA
Royal Federation Navy
0
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Posted - 2012.12.09 07:56:00 -
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I do not like the idea that CCP has deemed us all as cheaters!
you are the first DEVS to control players NOT in game. PENALTY ? You have set up a timer penalty system!
Players do drop connection for a split second due to packet lost or power failure , be that there fault or not, 15 min is extreme and insulting !
Congratulations EVE CCP you are the first DEVS to have control of players NOT in game. be that now 15 min from 5 ! Is this Cruel childish or just plain arrogance?
''i was in a lvl 4 mission with 2 chars on 2 computers 2 screen's as 3rd corp member arrive i lost one char connection and could not re join for 15 min .while haplessly watching my ship blow up!- from the 2nd char computer . the fact i could not log back in is really arrogant and NOT good customer service . because you think we are cheating or maco bot using. when does NOT Happy ! FACT. disconection happens all the time . get over it and show some respect! |

Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
3096
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Posted - 2012.12.09 07:58:00 -
[2] - Quote
wat? |

Midnight Pheonix
Arma Purgatorium Templis Dragonaors
22
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Posted - 2012.12.09 07:58:00 -
[3] - Quote
To my knowledge this shouldn't of happened, you should have been able to log in immediately again. If this truly was the case, petition it and try to get a refund on your ship.
EDIT: I have dc'd since the expansion while under suspect and limited engagement timers and was allowed to log in immediately. |

Karrde Belarr
Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes
2
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Posted - 2012.12.09 08:00:00 -
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Destination SkillQueue wrote:wat?
I think he's referring to the limitation that now when you engage in combat with either an NPC or player your ship remains in space for an amount of time after you log out. Though I haven't had this happen yet, so I can't confirm the "inability to log in" he's experiencing. |

Tul Breetai
Impromptu Asset Requisition Insurance Fraud.
56
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Posted - 2012.12.09 08:01:00 -
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Maybe I'm just uninformed, but how is a D/C related to using a bot? There's nothing worse than an EVE player, generally considered to be top of the food chain in the MMO world, that cannot smacktalk with wit and coherency. |

Vito Tattaglia
New Paradigm Inc.
52
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Posted - 2012.12.09 08:04:00 -
[6] - Quote
Admittedly, i have no idea what the OP was supposed to say...
but if what you're trying to say is "PvE combat should not create a log off timer!" then you are correct, I'm pretty sure it wasn't in the patch. Only PvP combat should cause your ship to stay on grid for 15 minutes. |

Marlona Sky
D00M. Northern Coalition.
2241
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Posted - 2012.12.09 08:07:00 -
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NPC aggression is fine. Stop botting.
Remove local, structure mails and revamp the directional scanner! |

Vera Algaert
Republic University Minmatar Republic
468
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Posted - 2012.12.09 08:12:00 -
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Royal NASA wrote:I do not like the idea that CCP has deemed us all as cheaters!
you are the first DEVS to control players NOT in game. PENALTY ? You have set up a timer penalty system!
Players do drop connection for a split second due to packet lost or power failure , be that there fault or not, 15 min is extreme and insulting !
Congratulations EVE CCP you are the first DEVS to have control of players NOT in game. be that now 15 min from 5 ! Is this Cruel childish or just plain arrogance?
''i was in a lvl 4 mission with 2 chars on 2 computers 2 screen's as 3rd corp member arrive i lost one char connection and could not re join for 15 min .while haplessly watching my ship blow up!- from the 2nd char computer . the fact i could not log back in is really arrogant and NOT good customer service . because you think we are cheating or maco bot using. when does NOT Happy ! FACT. disconection happens all the time . get over it and show some respect! this rant doesn't make any sense... bots always warp to a POS or station before logging off. I'm a NPC corp alt, any argument I make is invalid. |

Karrde Belarr
Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes
2
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Posted - 2012.12.09 08:12:00 -
[9] - Quote
Vito Tattaglia wrote:Admittedly, i have no idea what the OP was supposed to say...
but if what you're trying to say is "PvE combat should not create a log off timer!" then you are correct, I'm pretty sure it wasn't in the patch. Only PvP combat should cause your ship to stay on grid for 15 minutes.
I was pretty sure NPC combat caused a 6-minute timer, right? Though I agree, the 15-minute is PvP-only.
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Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
447
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Posted - 2012.12.09 08:13:00 -
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Tul Breetai wrote:Maybe I'm just uninformed, but how is a D/C related to using a bot?
It is "kind of related". CCP has introduced a new "feature" where ships that have engaged in some for of combat, can't do a logoffski if in trouble. The ship just sits there, in space.
The timer is 15 minutes if you engaged a player, and 5 minutes if you were engaged in PvE.
Now, imagine you are in a gunboat BS, like a Mach or Nightmare. Further visualize all your small drones evaporated by the new and improved AI, and you are being scrammed by NPC frigs which your guns can't track. Your tank is slowly being whittled down.
Now, with the new 5 minute timer, what tactic do you do to prevent your ship from going poofy?
|

Azrael Dinn
The 20th Legion Mildly Sober
18
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Posted - 2012.12.09 08:20:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Tul Breetai wrote:Maybe I'm just uninformed, but how is a D/C related to using a bot? It is "kind of related". CCP has introduced a new "feature" where ships that have engaged in some for of combat, can't do a logoffski if in trouble. The ship just sits there, in space. The timer is 15 minutes if you engaged a player, and 5 minutes if you were engaged in PvE. Now, imagine you are in a gunboat BS, like a Mach or Nightmare. Further visualize all your small drones evaporated by the new and improved AI, and you are being scrammed by NPC frigs which your guns can't track. Your tank is slowly being whittled down. Now, with the new 5 minute timer, what tactic do you do to prevent your ship from going poofy?
You buy a better tank befero you go into battle :P
But yeah... I don't see this as a CCPs fault or a ban issue or anything that the op described. How does disconnectiing relate to bots and cheaters? |

Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
3096
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Posted - 2012.12.09 08:23:00 -
[12] - Quote
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Tul Breetai wrote:Maybe I'm just uninformed, but how is a D/C related to using a bot? It is "kind of related". CCP has introduced a new "feature" where ships that have engaged in some for of combat, can't do a logoffski if in trouble. The ship just sits there, in space. The timer is 15 minutes if you engaged a player, and 5 minutes if you were engaged in PvE. Now, imagine you are in a gunboat BS, like a Mach or Nightmare. Further visualize all your small drones evaporated by the new and improved AI, and you are being scrammed by NPC frigs which your guns can't track. Your tank is slowly being whittled down. Now, with the new 5 minute timer, what tactic do you do to prevent your ship from going poofy?
You prevent it by not sucking at PvE or disconnecting. Naturally you can't do much about the second thing, but with modern connections, that's extremely rare thing to happen and you can always passive tank, if you're worried about it. |

Remiel Pollard
Austrollia Scrapyard.
314
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Posted - 2012.12.09 08:25:00 -
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ibtl for ranting You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |

SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1054
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Posted - 2012.12.09 08:32:00 -
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I don't have these problems. |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5739
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Posted - 2012.12.09 08:34:00 -
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god forbid CCP adds some risk to missions and ratting ~*a proud belligerent undesirable*~ TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. An idea for improving corp management |

J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
564
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Posted - 2012.12.09 08:52:00 -
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I have an extremely good connection and an extremely good pc yet I too get random disconnects now and again. Also power failures can happen. You don't really have control over those things so they should not penalise you ingame because of that. By all means, make missions harder, make anti-drone AI really good but the 5 min timer sucks because there is no way you can protect against it once you dc. This is my signature. There are many others like it, but this one is mine.-á Without me, my signature is useless. Without my signature, I am useless |

Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor Cosmic Consortium
2216
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Posted - 2012.12.09 08:52:00 -
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In the bad old days before Retribution, engaging in NPC combat would result in a 60s timer before your ship disappeared from space. If you were disconnected, your ship would attempt an emergency warp. If you were warp scrambled your ship would end up staying put for 60s then simply disappear from space.
If your account is suspended for any reason you will be disconnected. Thus if your PLEX or subscription runs out, expect an emergency warp out will happen.
Incoherent ranting on the forums does not solve any problems, and only creates more since not only have you lost a ship, you will shortly get trolled by the Forum denizens and invoke the wrath of the forum mods.
Petition your loss, do not blame CCP for your account expiry, and certainly don't make up a silly story about being barred for botting. Day 0 advice for new players: Day 0 Advice for New Players |

Uwara
The Ares project
15
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Posted - 2012.12.09 08:57:00 -
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Royal NASA wrote:I do not like the idea that CCP has deemed us all as cheaters!
arrogant and NOT good customer service.
Now this I understood. Barely. And its not truth at all. CCP has best customer service ever (logs on the other hand....)
P.S. - heavy sarcasm intended
Won a G510 keyboard in AT-X on-á 21.07.2012. Still not delivered, CCP keeps quiet. Customer support needs a raise. |

Shokre O'Corwi
The Squid Squad Slumdogs
17
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Posted - 2012.12.09 09:50:00 -
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NPC aggression -> user get's dc-ed -> ship warps off to a safe spot -> stays on the safe spot until timer runs out -> ship despawns
Did anybody actually test anything before assuming the ship stays on field? |

Arduemont
Rotten Legion Ops
838
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Posted - 2012.12.09 09:51:00 -
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Careful guys, this one has just got his tinfoil hat out. "In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." |

Ronan Connor
10
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Posted - 2012.12.09 09:57:00 -
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A "logoffski" shouldnt matter at all during a PVE fight. That timer doesnt make sense at all.
Everybody had a socket close every once in a while and should not be punished for that. Its hard enough when you can immediate login back, which takes you 1-2 minutes.
CCP would do good to get rid of this non pvp timer. |

Sentamon
338
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Posted - 2012.12.09 09:57:00 -
[22] - Quote
thats one weird rant  ~ Professional Forum Alt -á~ |

Natsett Amuinn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
616
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Posted - 2012.12.09 11:05:00 -
[23] - Quote
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Tul Breetai wrote:Maybe I'm just uninformed, but how is a D/C related to using a bot? It is "kind of related". CCP has introduced a new "feature" where ships that have engaged in some for of combat, can't do a logoffski if in trouble. The ship just sits there, in space. The timer is 15 minutes if you engaged a player, and 5 minutes if you were engaged in PvE. Now, imagine you are in a gunboat BS, like a Mach or Nightmare. Further visualize all your small drones evaporated by the new and improved AI, and you are being scrammed by NPC frigs which your guns can't track. Your tank is slowly being whittled down. Now, with the new 5 minute timer, what tactic do you do to prevent your ship from going poofy? I'm Sure this isn't due to bottling, but people who engage in pvp and then warp away and log off to save themselves. And people who use logging off to keep from getting blown up by npc's.
Most mmo's do this to keep people from unplugging their modem or shutting down the game to keep from "losing".
In other words, People exactly like you. |

Natsett Amuinn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
616
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Posted - 2012.12.09 11:08:00 -
[24] - Quote
Ronan Connor wrote:A "logoffski" shouldnt matter at all during a PVE fight. That timer doesnt make sense at all.
Everybody had a socket close every once in a while and should not be punished for that. Its hard enough when you can immediate login back, which takes you 1-2 minutes.
CCP would do good to get rid of this non pvp timer. Yes it should.
You shouldn't be able to avoid consequence. If you do something wrong that's going to get you blown up you should get blown up, not be able to log off to save your ship.
|

Marlona Sky
D00M. Northern Coalition.
2242
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Posted - 2012.12.09 11:48:00 -
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Ronan Connor wrote:A "logoffski" shouldnt matter at all during a PVE fight. That timer doesnt make sense at all.
Everybody had a socket close every once in a while and should not be punished for that. Its hard enough when you can immediate login back, which takes you 1-2 minutes.
CCP would do good to get rid of this non pvp timer. I had a socket closed error yesterday and it cost me a Naga during a fight. You know, a real fight. You know what I did? I got another ship and went right back out there to shoot some more people in the face. So enough with the sob story about your tales of woe when it comes to shooting mission rats.
**** happens. Deal with it.
Remove local, structure mails and revamp the directional scanner! |

Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
5415
|
Posted - 2012.12.09 12:02:00 -
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Royal NASA wrote:I do not like the idea that CCP has deemed us all as cheaters!
you are the first DEVS to control players NOT in game. PENALTY ? You have set up a timer penalty system!
Players do drop connection for a split second due to packet lost or power failure , be that there fault or not, 15 min is extreme and insulting !
Congratulations EVE CCP you are the first DEVS to have control of players NOT in game. be that now 15 min from 5 ! Is this Cruel childish or just plain arrogance?
''i was in a lvl 4 mission with 2 chars on 2 computers 2 screen's as 3rd corp member arrive i lost one char connection and could not re join for 15 min .while haplessly watching my ship blow up!- from the 2nd char computer . the fact i could not log back in is really arrogant and NOT good customer service . because you think we are cheating or maco bot using. when does NOT Happy ! FACT. disconection happens all the time . get over it and show some respect!
Oh dear, did your tbot lose a tengu?
Please accept my sincere commiserations MatrixSkye Mk2: "Remember: You consent to unconsensual PVP the moment you press the "Undock" button." |

Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
5415
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Posted - 2012.12.09 12:03:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Tul Breetai wrote:Maybe I'm just uninformed, but how is a D/C related to using a bot? It is "kind of related". CCP has introduced a new "feature" where ships that have engaged in some for of combat, can't do a logoffski if in trouble. The ship just sits there, in space. The timer is 15 minutes if you engaged a player, and 5 minutes if you were engaged in PvE. Now, imagine you are in a gunboat BS, like a Mach or Nightmare. Further visualize all your small drones evaporated by the new and improved AI, and you are being scrammed by NPC frigs which your guns can't track. Your tank is slowly being whittled down. Now, with the new 5 minute timer, what tactic do you do to prevent your ship from going poofy?
The aggro timer has been in the game for years. If PvPers have learned to live with it, I'm sure you mighty mission warriors can do the same. MatrixSkye Mk2: "Remember: You consent to unconsensual PVP the moment you press the "Undock" button." |

baltec1
Bat Country
3161
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Posted - 2012.12.09 12:14:00 -
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The past few days have shown that high sec mission runners are just as bad as miners for adaptability and risk adversion. |

raskonalkov
Tie Fighters Inc
3
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Posted - 2012.12.09 12:17:00 -
[29] - Quote
Quote:The past few days have shown that high sec mission runners are just as bad as miners for adaptability and risk adversion.
Quote:god forbid CCP adds some risk to missions and ratting
Pretty funny coming from people who used drakes for battles. I should probably go play WoW to feel as safe as you guys fly. |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
10641
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Posted - 2012.12.09 12:17:00 -
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Ronan Connor wrote:A "logoffski" shouldnt matter at all during a PVE fight. That timer doesnt make sense at all. Sure it does. It ensures that a PvE fight can evolve into a PvP fight. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan. |

Dyvim Slorm
Coven of the Morrigan
61
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Posted - 2012.12.09 12:36:00 -
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Natsett Amuinn wrote:Ronan Connor wrote:A "logoffski" shouldnt matter at all during a PVE fight. That timer doesnt make sense at all.
Everybody had a socket close every once in a while and should not be punished for that. Its hard enough when you can immediate login back, which takes you 1-2 minutes.
CCP would do good to get rid of this non pvp timer. Yes it should. You shouldn't be able to avoid consequence. If you do something wrong that's going to get you blown up you should get blown up, not be able to log off to save your ship.
I don't follow your logic, unless you're scrammed you can warp out at any time so how can you lose a ship?
If you are scrammed you're not going anywhere whether there's a logoff timer or not. |

baltec1
Bat Country
3161
|
Posted - 2012.12.09 12:39:00 -
[32] - Quote
raskonalkov wrote: Pretty funny coming from people who used drakes for battles. I should probably go play WoW to feel as safe as you guys fly.
The use of drakes in pvp has what baring on this subject exactly? |

gfldex
582
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Posted - 2012.12.09 12:51:00 -
[33] - Quote
Shokre O'Corwi wrote:ship warps off to a safe spot
If the server knows that your client has disconnected. What can be hard in case of a power failure. The 5 minute timer doesn't really change anything for those that had a legitimate connection loss because in many cases the server didn't warp you off anyways. It's for sure a nice trap for logoffskies. If you take all the sand out of the box, only the cat poo will remain. |

raskonalkov
Tie Fighters Inc
3
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Posted - 2012.12.09 13:18:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:raskonalkov wrote: Pretty funny coming from people who used drakes for battles. I should probably go play WoW to feel as safe as you guys fly.
The use of drakes in pvp has what baring on this subject exactly?
People say their risky behavior is flying drakes into battle. |

Bienator II
madmen of the skies
1202
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Posted - 2012.12.09 13:31:00 -
[35] - Quote
I don't get it. Logoff timers are nothing new. If your ship can not warp to safe it will stay there till the timer ends. a eve-style bounty system https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=359105 You fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail to jump because you are cloaked |

Skorpynekomimi
273
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Posted - 2012.12.09 14:31:00 -
[36] - Quote
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Tul Breetai wrote:Maybe I'm just uninformed, but how is a D/C related to using a bot? It is "kind of related". CCP has introduced a new "feature" where ships that have engaged in some for of combat, can't do a logoffski if in trouble. The ship just sits there, in space. The timer is 15 minutes if you engaged a player, and 5 minutes if you were engaged in PvE. Now, imagine you are in a gunboat BS, like a Mach or Nightmare. Further visualize all your small drones evaporated by the new and improved AI, and you are being scrammed by NPC frigs which your guns can't track. Your tank is slowly being whittled down. Now, with the new 5 minute timer, what tactic do you do to prevent your ship from going poofy?
Pop the tackle frigs before they get close. Smaller guns Sparing use of drones Logistics alt. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1870
|
Posted - 2012.12.09 14:38:00 -
[37] - Quote
baltec1 wrote:raskonalkov wrote:Pretty funny coming from people who used drakes for battles. I should probably go play WoW to feel as safe as you guys fly. The use of drakes in pvp has what baring on this subject exactly? Getting blown up in Drakes is "safe" ? Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |

Jonah Gravenstein
Holistic Materials Research Council
4351
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Posted - 2012.12.09 15:29:00 -
[38] - Quote
Ronan Connor wrote:A "logoffski" shouldnt matter at all during a PVE fight. That timer doesnt make sense at all.
Everybody had a socket close every once in a while and should not be punished for that. Its hard enough when you can immediate login back, which takes you 1-2 minutes.
CCP would do good to get rid of this non pvp timer.
So NPCs are second class citizens and don't warrant an aggressor having a logoffski timer?
EQUALITY FOR NPCS!!!
Always bet on stupid, CCP can't patch stupid. The measure of success in Eve is not monetary worth, it's how effectively you can enforce your will on others. |

Tul Breetai
Impromptu Asset Requisition Insurance Fraud.
56
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Posted - 2012.12.09 15:58:00 -
[39] - Quote
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Tul Breetai wrote:Maybe I'm just uninformed, but how is a D/C related to using a bot? It is "kind of related". CCP has introduced a new "feature" where ships that have engaged in some for of combat, can't do a logoffski if in trouble. The ship just sits there, in space. The timer is 15 minutes if you engaged a player, and 5 minutes if you were engaged in PvE. Now, imagine you are in a gunboat BS, like a Mach or Nightmare. Further visualize all your small drones evaporated by the new and improved AI, and you are being scrammed by NPC frigs which your guns can't track. Your tank is slowly being whittled down. Now, with the new 5 minute timer, what tactic do you do to prevent your ship from going poofy?
But OP isn't ranting about that, as he watched on the other screen his ship blowing up. Something about not being able to log in, and punishment for botting... from what little I can make sense, he thinks CCP caused his D/C for "botting" and NPCs popped it? There's nothing worse than an EVE player, generally considered to be top of the food chain in the MMO world, that cannot smacktalk with wit and coherency. |

Shokre O'Corwi
The Squid Squad Slumdogs
17
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Posted - 2012.12.09 16:02:00 -
[40] - Quote
gfldex wrote:Shokre O'Corwi wrote:ship warps off to a safe spot If the server knows that your client has disconnected. What can be hard in case of a power failure. The 5 minute timer doesn't really change anything for those that had a legitimate connection loss because in many cases the server didn't warp you off anyways. It's for sure a nice trap for logoffskies. The server won't warp you off only if you're scrammed. A connection loss can and is detected promptly after it happens so you're not on field for more than it takes your ship to align plus an extra 2-3 seconds for the system to kick in. |

Natsett Amuinn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
617
|
Posted - 2012.12.09 16:14:00 -
[41] - Quote
Dyvim Slorm wrote:
I don't follow your logic, unless you're scrammed you can warp out at any time so how can you lose a ship?
If you are scrammed you're not going anywhere whether there's a logoff timer or not.
As one shining example put:
Quote:Now, with the new 5 minute timer, what tactic do you do to prevent your ship from going poofy?
If you can't follow my logic, than you're probably doing exactly what that guy was and are upset that you can't now.
Edit: You guys take advantage of stuff, CCP says enough and makes it so you can't, and then you guys have the gull to act like everyone else is a bleeding moron who can't uncerstand why you're really upset.
Logging off isn't supposed to be a last resort tactic to save your ship. |

Samantha Utama
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
70
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Posted - 2012.12.09 17:19:00 -
[42] - Quote
Maybe you should just stop cheating, OP |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5750
|
Posted - 2012.12.09 17:25:00 -
[43] - Quote
raskonalkov wrote:baltec1 wrote:raskonalkov wrote: Pretty funny coming from people who used drakes for battles. I should probably go play WoW to feel as safe as you guys fly.
The use of drakes in pvp has what baring on this subject exactly? People say their risky behavior is flying drakes into battle.
And titans, supercarriers, Tengus, Maelstroms, Rokhs, HACs, logistics, HICs, dictors, and so on.
Your point? ~*a proud belligerent undesirable*~ TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. An idea for improving corp management |

Johan Civire
Dirty Curse inc.
221
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Posted - 2012.12.09 17:32:00 -
[44] - Quote
Royal NASA wrote:I do not like the idea that CCP has deemed us all as cheaters!
you are the first DEVS to control players NOT in game. PENALTY ? You have set up a timer penalty system!
Players do drop connection for a split second due to packet lost or power failure , be that there fault or not, 15 min is extreme and insulting !
Congratulations EVE CCP you are the first DEVS to have control of players NOT in game. be that now 15 min from 5 ! Is this Cruel childish or just plain arrogance?
''i was in a lvl 4 mission with 2 chars on 2 computers 2 screen's as 3rd corp member arrive i lost one char connection and could not re join for 15 min .while haplessly watching my ship blow up!- from the 2nd char computer . the fact i could not log back in is really arrogant and NOT good customer service . because you think we are cheating or maco bot using. when does NOT Happy ! FACT. disconection happens all the time . get over it and show some respect!
Champion use your main if not this is a QQ cloaked post. |

sabre906
Old Spice Syndicate Sailors of the Sacred Spice
427
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Posted - 2012.12.09 17:49:00 -
[45] - Quote
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Tul Breetai wrote:Maybe I'm just uninformed, but how is a D/C related to using a bot? It is "kind of related". CCP has introduced a new "feature" where ships that have engaged in some for of combat, can't do a logoffski if in trouble. The ship just sits there, in space. The timer is 15 minutes if you engaged a player, and 5 minutes if you were engaged in PvE. Now, imagine you are in a gunboat BS, like a Mach or Nightmare. Further visualize all your small drones evaporated by the new and improved AI, and you are being scrammed by NPC frigs which your guns can't track. Your tank is slowly being whittled down. Now, with the new 5 minute timer, what tactic do you do to prevent your ship from going poofy?
You've got it wrong. If you haven't disconnected, you'd be able to easily permatank the rats while deploying new drones to kill these scraming frigs and fire guns to kill larger rats. There's no way your ship will pop in this common situation that happens all the time.
But since you've disconnected, you ship has no skills, don't fire, and can't deploy drones. 5 minute timer ensures that your ship pop in such a common situation that happens all the time. Standings Improvement Service https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=19454 |

Natsett Amuinn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
618
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Posted - 2012.12.09 18:04:00 -
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sabre906 wrote:Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Tul Breetai wrote:Maybe I'm just uninformed, but how is a D/C related to using a bot? It is "kind of related". CCP has introduced a new "feature" where ships that have engaged in some for of combat, can't do a logoffski if in trouble. The ship just sits there, in space. The timer is 15 minutes if you engaged a player, and 5 minutes if you were engaged in PvE. Now, imagine you are in a gunboat BS, like a Mach or Nightmare. Further visualize all your small drones evaporated by the new and improved AI, and you are being scrammed by NPC frigs which your guns can't track. Your tank is slowly being whittled down. Now, with the new 5 minute timer, what tactic do you do to prevent your ship from going poofy? You've got it wrong. If you haven't disconnected, you'd be able to easily permatank the rats while deploying new drones to kill these scraming frigs and fire guns to kill larger rats. There's no way your ship will pop in this common situation that happens all the time. But since you've disconnected, you ship has no skills, don't fire, and can't deploy drones. 5 minute timer ensures that your ship pop in such a common situation that happens all the time. Disconnects suck.
But disconnects are no reason to allow that guy to continue using logging out to do something he shouldn't be able to do.
Anyone that loses something due to a disconnect has every right to complain to CCP about their reimbursement policy, I'd be upset if the socket closed and I lost something as well, but that's the risk of playing an online game.
That guy though, he should be ashamed of posting that on the forums. That's cheating. |
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Posted - 2012.12.09 18:27:00 -
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