lollerwaffle
Sileo In Pacis
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Posted - 2012.12.28 10:33:00 -
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To address some points below by random NPC corp alt. Note I'm neither for nor against removal or changing CONCORD, whatever happens, happens.
Kyril Bonfiglioli wrote:Surprise, surprise... The goons would like to see PVP everywhere. In other words, they want to be able to kill anyone, anywhere with impunity. You have low and null sec for that. Not everyone wants to engage in PVP. I certainly don't. Eve is big enough to allow the relative safety of high sec. Also the model CCP have now is a real winner resulting in a growing membership while other MMO's are steadinly losing memberships.
Tinfoil-hattery. While not everyone wants to engage in PVP, they should certainly accept that PVP may happen to them, and actively learn how to avoid being in a non-consensual PVP situation.
Kyril Bonfiglioli wrote:High sec is a good "nursery" for new players to learn the game and then decide what they want to do in the game, and yes, that means that they may wish to engage in PVP and head to null, but imagine if every time you undocked you got blown out of space... That doesn't sound like fun to me... I would quit imediately.
I don't view high sec as a 'nursery' for new players (or old). It is merely a difference area of space with different rules of engagement. PVP is not restricted to null or low ONLY. If someone was really out to get you, with organization, they could still blow you out of space everytime you undocked, even in the current status.
Kyril Bonfiglioli wrote:Goons need to realise there are actually others in the game that enjoy different playstyles without being annoyed by them.
You should really keep the tinfoil hattery out of your arguments, it just weakens them.
Kyril Bonfiglioli wrote:I think you miss the point of high sec... If you want to go see a hulk sitting by itself and want to kill it, then go to low sec or null and do that. People live in high sec precisely so you and people like you CAN'T do that. Like I have said before, not everyone wants to PVP. If you (cowardly) want to attack a defenseless ship, then go low. You say that you prefer null but it isn't fun with the coalitions, well high sec would not be fun for a vast number of people if there was a real good chance that someone like you were to come and gank them every time they undocked their Exhumer.
Aside from the reasons that you don't see hulks randomly mining on their own in low and null (apart from in secured space), if someone saw ANY mining ship, they have an option to destroy it, and face whatever consequences come their way. Again, high sec is NOT a safe zone, it is merely 'safer'. Throwing insults about the supposed 'cowardice' of other players is a good way to get your arguments dismissed.
People CAN do that under the current mechanics, they just have to be prepared to accept the consequences, whether they are provided by NPC as it is now, or by players (as has been brought up in this thread).
Kyril Bonfiglioli wrote:In short, Concord is there to protect those who do not want to engage in PVP. If you do want to PVP then move out of high sec.
Eve has a place for most people, don't try to turn it into a place for one group only.
This is where you fall short. Concord is not there to protect those who do not want to engage in PVP. If they were, everyone would get a Concord escort every time they undocked. They merely provide consequences to 'illegal' combat in high sec.
Again, high sec was never meant to be a PVP-free zone, so saying 'take your PVP out of highsec' doesn't work here. If high sec was meant to be a PVP free zone, CCP would never introduce all the mechanics that make it possible for people to engage in PVP.
EVE DOES have a place for most people, however, those people must also accept that there are other types of people out there and be prepared for interactions with said types.
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