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Wolvun
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
80
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Posted - 2012.12.11 03:12:00 -
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You heard it devs 10sec delay is not cool. Your expansion made this problem put some time onto fixing it.
Why you want people to live and stuff? |

Xercodo
Xovoni Directorate
1549
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Posted - 2012.12.11 03:24:00 -
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Wolvun wrote:You heard it devs 10sec delay is not cool. Your expansion made this problem put some time onto fixing it.
Why you want people to live and stuff?
Because you made a thread instead of a bug report.
For every bug report you don't make you'll lose 10 targets that you would have killed D: The Drake is a Lie |

Wolvun
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
80
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Posted - 2012.12.11 03:26:00 -
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Xercodo wrote:Wolvun wrote:You heard it devs 10sec delay is not cool. Your expansion made this problem put some time onto fixing it.
Why you want people to live and stuff? Because you made a thread instead of a bug report. For every bug report you don't make you'll lose 10 targets that you would have killed D:
Ohh i am sure me and 1000 other people have made bug reports but devs only read general chat. |

Wolvun
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
80
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Posted - 2012.12.11 11:55:00 -
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bump?
Would i get a dev response if i ask something pointless like what is the avatar above you thinking? |

Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1396
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Posted - 2012.12.11 11:57:00 -
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If only there was some sort of bug reporting system that people could use. It's about time CCP stops catering to the lazy players with this sense of entitlement for fear of losing money. These aren't the people making the game better, these are the people wanting you to turn EVE in to a game that is like most other MMO's. |

Wolvun
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
80
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Posted - 2012.12.11 11:59:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:If only there was some sort of bug reporting system that people could use.
If only the fixed them when people use that feature.....  |

Altrue
Exploration Frontier inc
75
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Posted - 2012.12.11 12:11:00 -
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I'm not working at CCP, but I'm pretty sure that they aren't hiring people to receive, read and send bug reports if these said reports are not used properly after. It would be a waste of money. *Yelling "Manticooore !" on teamspeak* |

Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1397
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Posted - 2012.12.11 12:34:00 -
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Wolvun wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:If only there was some sort of bug reporting system that people could use. If only the fixed them when people use that feature..... 
Expecting a resolution as soon as you press the submit button is unrealistic. It's about time CCP stops catering to the lazy players with this sense of entitlement for fear of losing money. These aren't the people making the game better, these are the people wanting you to turn EVE in to a game that is like most other MMO's. |

Elder Ozzian
Frozen Dawn Inc Arctic Light
41
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Posted - 2012.12.11 12:46:00 -
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Don't use cloak with HIC - cloak has the same debuff with hic bubble than other ships with targeting. You cannot create bubble right after decloaking - you'll have to wait that 10sec like every other ships does. I disagree! |

Wolvun
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
80
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Posted - 2012.12.11 12:51:00 -
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Elder Ozzian wrote:Don't use cloak with HIC - cloak has the same debuff with hic bubble than other ships with targeting. You cannot create bubble right after decloaking - you'll have to wait that 10sec like every other ships does.
Well now it does yeah. Fix it CCP |

Rordan D'Kherr
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
243
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Posted - 2012.12.11 13:57:00 -
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Wolvun wrote:Elder Ozzian wrote:Don't use cloak with HIC - cloak has the same debuff with hic bubble than other ships with targeting. You cannot create bubble right after decloaking - you'll have to wait that 10sec like every other ships does. Well now it does yeah. Fix it CCP
why? I think this was exactly the intention...
_______________________________________ Don't be scared, because being afk is not a crime. |

Jaiimez Skor
Odyssey Inc SpaceMonkey's Alliance
40
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Posted - 2012.12.11 14:21:00 -
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Rordan D'Kherr wrote:Wolvun wrote:Elder Ozzian wrote:Don't use cloak with HIC - cloak has the same debuff with hic bubble than other ships with targeting. You cannot create bubble right after decloaking - you'll have to wait that 10sec like every other ships does. Well now it does yeah. Fix it CCP why? I think this was exactly the intention... Yea I think that's legit, I fly HIC's alot but I always did think it was slightly unfair that you where able to decloak and instantly bubble while everyone else is forced to wait the cloak targeting delay.
Doesn't need fixing you just need to cry less. |

Jack Tronic
borkedLabs
62
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Posted - 2012.12.11 15:00:00 -
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https://bugs.eveonline.com |

Stitcher
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
385
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Posted - 2012.12.11 15:45:00 -
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delicious tears. HTFU. An in-character blog and a video: http://verinsjournal.blogspot.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu1mbsgo738
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bongpacks
Mudbug Acquisition Of Empire
37
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Posted - 2013.01.19 20:31:00 -
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While having the cloaking delay effect HIC bubbles now makes sense, there are however many inconsistencies with HICs and Interdictors. For instance back in October I think it was last year CCP made it so that an Interdictor's sphere launcher's activation timer was no longer reset by a stargate or wormhole jump. Meaning that you can no longer say, land on a wormhole and launch a probe then jump through and immediately launch another which in effect made single bubble fits worthless for wormhole PVP. At the same time the inconsistent part I was speaking of is that a HICs bubble activation timer still does reset upon jumping so it can perform in the situation listed above. You would think if it was so unfair for the Interdictor to perform such a maneuver that having a HIC being able to do it would be much more unfair considering their massive EHP and survivability VS. Interdicters which are lovingly called "Flying Coffins." Now another such inconsistency comes in between HICs and Interdictors when cloaking devices are utilized. A HIC can no longer throw a bubble immediately upon decloaking while an Interdictor can still launch a probe immediately after de-cloak, which pretty much makes this new "nerf" moot since if you want to do a good old fashioned bubble trap in w-space you could simply de-cloak a HIC and a Interdictor at the same time and launch a probe to catch your victim while the HIC waits out it's timer so it can throw it's bubble and be the primary means of tackle. I think it all comes down to some groups of people cried loudly enough about it that CCP changed it without even thinking about how it would effect the gameplay just like they have done with crimewatch. Highsec is basically ruined for me as grief was one of my favorite and the most easily found form of PVP in highsec at that time. I'm not saying to change it either way I'm just trying to outline the inconsistency of it all. Also this whole new thing about the cloak re-activation delay following you through wormhole jumps is just stupid. Uncloak on a wormhole and jump and immediately try to move and cloak again and sometimes it says you have to wait, so any potential prey has just seen you because CCP changed something without telling anyone...again. |

Ris Dnalor
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
427
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Posted - 2013.01.19 21:15:00 -
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Para
bongpacks wrote:While having the cloaking delay effect HIC bubbles now makes sense, there are however many inconsistencies with HICs and Interdictors.
For instance back in October I think it was last year CCP made it so that an Interdictor's sphere launcher's activation timer was no longer reset by a stargate or wormhole jump. Meaning that you can no longer say, land on a wormhole and launch a probe then jump through and immediately launch another which in effect made single bubble fits worthless for wormhole PVP.
At the same time the inconsistent part I was speaking of is that a HICs bubble activation timer still does reset upon jumping so it can perform in the situation listed above. You would think if it was so unfair for the Interdictor to perform such a maneuver that having a HIC being able to do it would be much more unfair considering their massive EHP and survivability VS. Interdicters which are lovingly called "Flying Coffins."
Now another such inconsistency comes in between HICs and Interdictors when cloaking devices are utilized. A HIC can no longer throw a bubble immediately upon decloaking while an Interdictor can still launch a probe immediately after de-cloak, which pretty much makes this new "nerf" moot since if you want to do a good old fashioned bubble trap in w-space you could simply de-cloak a HIC and a Interdictor at the same time and launch a probe to catch your victim while the HIC waits out it's timer so it can throw it's bubble and be the primary means of tackle.
I think it all comes down to some groups of people cried loudly enough about it that CCP changed it without even thinking about how it would effect the gameplay just like they have done with crimewatch. Highsec is basically ruined for me as grief was one of my favorite and the most easily found form of PVP in highsec at that time.
I'm not saying to change it either way I'm just trying to outline the inconsistency of it all. Also this whole new thing about the cloak re-activation delay following you through wormhole jumps is just stupid. Uncloak on a wormhole and jump and immediately try to move and cloak again and sometimes it says you have to wait, so any potential prey has just seen you because CCP changed something without telling anyone...again. graphs
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EvE = Everybody Vs. Everybody
- Qolde |

bongpacks
Mudbug Acquisition Of Empire
37
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Posted - 2013.01.19 21:34:00 -
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Thanks, lol. |

Google Voices
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.01.19 22:02:00 -
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Working as intended.......Even if it's not.
I am the voices of Google! Want answers? Learn to read...... |

bongpacks
Mudbug Acquisition Of Empire
37
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Posted - 2013.01.21 01:08:00 -
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bump |

bongpacks
Mudbug Acquisition Of Empire
37
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Posted - 2013.01.24 22:20:00 -
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bump |

Yusef Yeasef Yosef
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
180
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Posted - 2013.01.24 22:32:00 -
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So a HIC has to wait to engage like everyone else?
Sounds reasonable.
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Spurty
V0LTA Verge of Collapse
752
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Posted - 2013.01.24 22:35:00 -
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Elder Ozzian wrote:Don't use cloak with HIC - cloak has the same debuff with hic bubble than other ships with targeting. You cannot create bubble right after decloaking - you'll have to wait that 10sec like every other ships does.
This goes for smart bombs as well
:O
If its a bug, someone magic my Typhoon back into existence please. I think I lost it 2 years ago ... so not new --- GÇ£If you think this Universe is bad, you should see some of the others.GÇ¥ GÇò Philip K. **** |

Maggeridon Thoraz
Reconfiguration Nation Transmission Lost
44
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Posted - 2013.01.24 22:56:00 -
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from the decription of cloak modules i think it is not correct having a delay. the cloak says targeting delay. with a bubble i dont target anything. so imho teh bubble should get up at once. if i use a script i shoudl get a target delay. I totally agree its a bug. |

Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
391
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Posted - 2013.01.25 07:38:00 -
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Maggeridon Thoraz wrote:from the decription of cloak modules i think it is not correct having a delay. the cloak says targeting delay. with a bubble i dont target anything. so imho teh bubble should get up at once. if i use a script i shoudl get a target delay. I totally agree its a bug. CCP are lazy to fix descriptions when they make gameplay changes, so using that text CCP gives zero f***s about as a base to clam that something is not "working as intended" probably won't work.
Then again, CCP's tendency to make stealth changes kinda does not amuse me.
Or maybe they just have no idea what their collegues do, all the time. |

Complex Potential
Blackstar Privateer Consortium Enigma Project
192
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Posted - 2013.01.25 08:18:00 -
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Maggeridon Thoraz wrote:from the decription of cloak modules i think it is not correct having a delay. the cloak says targeting delay. with a bubble i dont target anything. so imho teh bubble should get up at once. if i use a script i shoudl get a target delay. I totally agree its a bug. Logically this makes sense. I really hope this is just a bug or yet again something I literally just invested in has been stealth nerfed.
If anyone else has something they want nerfed just let me know and Ill start training for it.  |

Yusef Yeasef Yosef
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
181
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Posted - 2013.01.25 14:47:00 -
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Complex Potential wrote:Maggeridon Thoraz wrote:from the decription of cloak modules i think it is not correct having a delay. the cloak says targeting delay. with a bubble i dont target anything. so imho teh bubble should get up at once. if i use a script i shoudl get a target delay. I totally agree its a bug. Logically this makes sense. I really hope this is just a bug or yet again something I literally just invested in has been stealth nerfed. If anyone else has something they want nerfed just let me know and Ill start training for it. 
Forum "they broke my fav ploit" poasting.
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Complex Potential
Blackstar Privateer Consortium Enigma Project
192
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Posted - 2013.01.25 15:25:00 -
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What the hell is a ploit? |

De'Veldrin
East India Ore Trade The East India Co.
811
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Posted - 2013.01.25 16:11:00 -
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As others have said, this was an intentional change, not a bug. The Margin Trading Scam: If you fell for it, it's your own damned fault. Malcanis for CSM 8 |

JD No7
Malevolent Intentions Ineluctable.
24
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Posted - 2013.01.25 16:16:00 -
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Can't keep up with the bubble changes and lack of documentation thereof! |

Tarunik Raqalth'Qui
The Kairos Syndicate Transmission Lost
99
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Posted - 2013.01.25 23:40:00 -
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De'Veldrin wrote:As others have said, this was an intentional change, not a bug. I can understand them wanting to change it intentionally (although there are yet more sinister tricks possible with HIC bubbles and cloaks ). Why the lack of a sentence in the patch-notes saying "HIC bubbles & smartbombs now have a 10s delay after decloaking.", though? |
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