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Zibun Ionic
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Posted - 2005.05.16 13:04:00 -
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Eve is again lagging as hell. Right after DT it was working pretty well, but now every jumps take eons.
I think it's already 3rd day when server haven't been working correctly at restart. What is this ****e? Getting on my nerver already.
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Sherkaner
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Posted - 2005.05.16 13:07:00 -
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I'm declaring this today's official server trouble thread 
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FireFoxx80
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Posted - 2005.05.16 13:18:00 -
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Has CCP worked out which hamster is tired yet?
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HansGrueber
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Posted - 2005.05.16 13:19:00 -
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 Originally by: FireFoxx80
Has CCP worked out which hamster is tired yet?
Obviously Not...
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Wrangler
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Posted - 2005.05.16 13:20:00 -
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Originally by: FireFoxx80
Has CCP worked out which hamster is tired yet?
It's not tired.. it's.. something else.. It is all classified. 
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KrogothZero
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Posted - 2005.05.16 13:22:00 -
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Edited by: KrogothZero on 16/05/2005 13:22:04
No lag here ^^
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FireFoxx80
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Posted - 2005.05.16 13:23:00 -
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Originally by: Wrangler
Originally by: FireFoxx80
Has CCP worked out which hamster is tired yet?
It's not tired.. it's.. something else.. It is all classified.
You're using space mice?
ex P-TMC
If you think you can do a better job, go find yourself a datacentre to host a box, get a copy of Visual Studio, and STFU.
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Scorpyn
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Posted - 2005.05.16 13:44:00 -
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Edited by: Scorpyn on 16/05/2005 15:25:21
Originally by: Wrangler
Originally by: FireFoxx80
Has CCP worked out which hamster is tired yet?
It's not tired.. it's.. something else.. It is all classified.
I logged on to explain how the hamster wasn't tired by referring to a famous experiments where a mouse stood in one place and killed itself with pleasure, but then I realized why it was classified and decided not to
Edit : Considering that this is not even on page 2 yet I'd say the server problems are probably not that big atm? Or have people stopped bothering to let the world know how unhappy they are? Maybe all of them got fried like the hamster
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Bunny Wunny
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Posted - 2005.05.16 15:33:00 -
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from what I understand the hampsters been put on a breeding programme so they can run more servers,
depending on the outcome of the hampsters pregnacy we may be getting 5-10 new servers all running on eco frendly Hampster power!
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X'Alor
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Posted - 2005.05.16 15:58:00 -
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Originally by: FireFoxx80
Originally by: Wrangler
Originally by: FireFoxx80
Has CCP worked out which hamster is tired yet?
It's not tired.. it's.. something else.. It is all classified.
You're using space mice?
Anyone else hate when people post links with pop ups or is that just me?
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Gummi
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Posted - 2005.05.16 16:00:00 -
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You never know, the server could be powered by these
:)
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Miner's Bane
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Posted - 2005.05.16 16:53:00 -
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Wouldnt it be easier to just sticky a server troubles thread and just change the date on it every time the server is having problems (read: every 2-3 days)?
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Skarsnik
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Posted - 2005.05.16 17:15:00 -
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Originally by: Wrangler
Originally by: FireFoxx80
Has CCP worked out which hamster is tired yet?
It's not tired.. it's.. something else.. It is all classified.
Classified EVE-Server mice... hmm me thinks perhaps they have some secret service type research projecty type people injecting the mice with 'Special Experimental' pharmacueticals 
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kieron
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Posted - 2005.05.16 17:33:00 -
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Originally by: FireFoxx80
You're using space mice?
The memories that that link brought up. Here's one I pull up from time to time when I'm bored. Rocket advert
As for the server issues, there have been some processes during server start-up that weren't completing before the server went live. If you think about when you start your computer, you start opening programs before your OS loads completely, and the programs are a bit slow in opening, this is the same situation that was occuring when the server returned from DT or maintenance.
Due to the sheer size of some of the operations (like the market system), some of these processes were still running when players started logging in. This, in conjunction with some nodes dropping, resulted in the the increased lag and other server issues.
The root cause of the issues are still being investigated. Rearrangement of the process start order is being under consideration, as are other options. More information will be posted as it becomes available.
kieron
Community Manager,
EVE Online
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Asestorian
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Posted - 2005.05.16 18:09:00 -
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Originally by: kieron
Originally by: FireFoxx80
You're using space mice?
The memories that that link brought up. Here's one I pull up from time to time when I'm bored. Rocket advert
As for the server issues, there have been some processes during server start-up that weren't completing before the server went live. If you think about when you start your computer, you start opening programs before your OS loads completely, and the programs are a bit slow in opening, this is the same situation that was occuring when the server returned from DT or maintenance.
Due to the sheer size of some of the operations (like the market system), some of these processes were still running when players started logging in. This, in conjunction with some nodes dropping, resulted in the the increased lag and other server issues.
The root cause of the issues are still being investigated. Rearrangement of the process start order is being under consideration, as are other options. More information will be posted as it becomes available.
Not that i know anything about this, but couldn't you make it so that people can't try to login till these processes are finished starting? Like either automated or just have the people there turn it on when ready?
Like i say i have no idea what im talking about so if that's just stupid then dont bother complaining about it.
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kieron
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Posted - 2005.05.16 18:23:00 -
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Originally by: Asestorian
Not that i know anything about this, but couldn't you make it so that people can't try to login till these processes are finished starting? Like either automated or just have the people there turn it on when ready?
Like i say i have no idea what im talking about so if that's just stupid then dont bother complaining about it.
A reasonable question and more than worthy of an answer. The artificial limit on log-ins over the weekend was a trial run to see how much of an effect log-in metrics had on some elements of the start-up process. It met with some success and allowed us to isolate the issue a bit.
More work is being done and we hope to have a solution in the near future.
kieron
Community Manager,
EVE Online
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Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2005.05.16 18:58:00 -
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Or perhaps some of the login could be handled by a seperate server...
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Nostradamu5
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Posted - 2005.05.16 19:20:00 -
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I for one would be willing to not be able to login at all until all services are up, of course being in the US on CST, your downtime happens on my travel to work, and playing Eve at my desk is a risky affair.
Some of the Europeans should be acquiring lunch at that time so donĘt worry about them either just get the servers stable, then everyone can have a good time.
Stop griping about server instability and go buy an EVE mug!
Additionally with the purchase of each mug you will receive two(2) invisible Elves.
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Mannakin
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Posted - 2005.05.16 19:29:00 -
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My connection to EvE has been dodgy since Friday evening and is stil fubar'd now.
Taken 10-15 minutes so far and I still can't log on. This happens on 2 different PCs which haven't had any upgrades or updates applied.
My 1Mb broadband is otherwise working fine with all 6 computers on my home network.
I must admit I'm getting pretty annoyed now, I nearly lost a barge today when my connection dropped and its been impossible to mine or do missions.
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infused
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Posted - 2005.05.16 20:38:00 -
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I was just wondering something DEVs.
What is actually going on when you shut down the servers at DT and they come back on an hour later?
Is it all automated? Or are you actually doing something?
What is going to happen when the server grows? Say to 100,000 subscribers per month, is it going to increase DT?
Why not have it going down on mon/wed/friday or the weekend at 2 hours a time instead of everyday?
Alot of questions I know, i'm just trying to see the point of DT. If I shut down my exchange servers for an hour everyday, i'd get shot
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CmdoColin
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Posted - 2005.05.16 22:38:00 -
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Originally by: infused
What is actually going on when you shut down the servers at DT and they come back on an hour later?
From a totally geeky point of view I'd also be mildly interested in whats going on in the back ground.
I know this sounds also I should be taken out back and removed from the gene pool - but the news story about the the spanning tree problems you had to me was very interesting. I do though work on routers so I kinda got an excuse. Certainly a good excuse when my boss caught me on the eve site when I should have been working... yet again...
I definately vote for more technical articles that I can baffle my boss with bull with 
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valkir
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Posted - 2005.05.17 07:08:00 -
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Edited by: valkir on 17/05/2005 07:16:50
Originally by: CmdoColin
Originally by: infused
What is actually going on when you shut down the servers at DT and they come back on an hour later?
From a totally geeky point of view I'd also be mildly interested in whats going on in the back ground.
I know this sounds also I should be taken out back and removed from the gene pool - but the news story about the the spanning tree problems you had to me was very interesting. I do though work on routers so I kinda got an excuse. Certainly a good excuse when my boss caught me on the eve site when I should have been working... yet again...
I definately vote for more technical articles that I can baffle my boss with bull with
make sure your boss isint an eve addict first
you never know who plays this game
wish eve wasent so fubar atm autopilot is shkrewed
and loading times remind me of a 486 on a dialup conection
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Zipoldy
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Posted - 2005.05.17 08:01:00 -
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How long are the Market problems in Metropolis and Molden Heat going to go on ??
On top of that the client frezees sometimes, and undocking/docking also seems to be problem.
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Mannakin
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Posted - 2005.05.17 08:13:00 -
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I'm in Kor-Azor, the market is dead, docking or undocking freezes the game, opening my wallet causes a crash and logging in is almost impossible.
I've had various problems since Friday, but things are getting worse not better.
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Tobiaz
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Posted - 2005.05.17 08:48:00 -
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In Lonetrek the market is dead too, as well as the order tab of the wallet.
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Zerbot Murega
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Posted - 2005.05.17 09:20:00 -
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checking the market in space while on autopilot will screwup the jump,
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clone 1
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Posted - 2005.05.17 09:46:00 -
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Originally by: Zerbot Murega
checking the market in space while on autopilot will screwup the jump,
Same here..
Currently in Verge Vendor
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Firid Soulbane
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Posted - 2005.05.17 09:59:00 -
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Edited by: Firid Soulbane on 17/05/2005 09:59:42
Yep checking the market in a region where it isnt working will src*w you.
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Captain Rod
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Posted - 2005.05.17 10:56:00 -
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Well after my previous posts about "May Lag Fest 2005" it seems CCP are trying hard to make it happen. I haven't experienced such an extended period of troubles ever I don't think.
There has been longer down times but repeated long periods of lag/errors that are occuring every week and more than once a week? This is concerning me.
We all love this game thats a fact, but the lethargic communication of problems like this and their lack of resolution is frustrating. There really needs to be a "messenger" who can let us know whats going on and an estimated fix time if any. I won't put a 425mm rail to his head. I promise.
Lack of communication leads people to assume a distinct lack of respect for your customers. So talk. Let us know earlier rather than later. Cheers.
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ollobrains
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Posted - 2005.05.17 11:04:00 -
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Lol lets ge the next patch in quicksmart before we figure out the current lag problem first - commomn thats the standard logic.
Market in *****ious keeps going down (mind you with 3 stations) cant be that hard.
Oh well lets go see if we can get some more paying members to join up the more the merrier.
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FireFoxx80
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Posted - 2005.05.17 11:40:00 -
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Originally by: X'Alor
Originally by: FireFoxx80
Originally by: Wrangler
Originally by: FireFoxx80
Has CCP worked out which hamster is tired yet?
It's not tired.. it's.. something else.. It is all classified.
You're using space mice?
Anyone else hate when people post links with pop ups or is that just me?
Use a pop-up blocker. Sorry, sometimes I forget that sites still have these.
ex P-TMC
If you think you can do a better job, go find yourself a datacentre to host a box, get a copy of Visual Studio, and STFU.
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Dakath
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Posted - 2005.05.17 23:17:00 -
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I was told by the powers that be that I must post here.
And so I say, the 10 MINUTE LAG ON UN-DOCK IS STILL HERE AND IT DOES NOT MATTER IF THE REST OF EVE IS LAGGED OR NOT.
THIS IS A BUG AND CCP KNOWS ABOUT IT.
And CCP does not care about it either.
I chopped Bunny into little pieces.
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sableye
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Posted - 2005.05.18 15:17:00 -
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Edited by: sableye on 18/05/2005 15:18:40
is the server down? all I get is checkings tatus of server emssage on login screen
then it changes to statUS: A TIMEOUT RECIEVED WHILE CONENCTING TO THE SOCKET
but the test server works fine.
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V'Hir
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Posted - 2005.05.18 20:17:00 -
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Reg the disconnect-won't-connect-again bug.
So far I've lost 1 Bestower, 1 Raven and 1 Mining Barge to this.
one of my clients just pop out if Eve, but shows no sign of it.
The NPC's change target, and bam... Before I can warp out.
Well, the Raven was a bit different, but still.
This keeps happening every few hours since the last update. I'm annoyed.
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Liquid General
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Posted - 2005.05.18 23:52:00 -
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Today after DT was much better :)
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Touk
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Posted - 2005.05.19 11:14:00 -
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Originally by: Dakath
I was told by the powers that be that I must post here.
And so I say, the 10 MINUTE LAG ON UN-DOCK IS STILL HERE AND IT DOES NOT MATTER IF THE REST OF EVE IS LAGGED OR NOT.
THIS IS A BUG AND CCP KNOWS ABOUT IT.
And CCP does not care about it either.
oh dear god......what is wrong with you ppl.
Why does this comment remind me of a small child desperate for love.
Lets just use our heas shall we......you honestly think that the CCP staff are sat in thier offices not caring that thier game is bugged....perhaps the conversation would go like this...
CCP Dude 1 : The thingy ma-jig thing on eve is bugged again.
CCP dude 2 : Ah who cares, leave them swines who give us money to play this game to thier own devices.....no doubt we will rid the entire eve universe of ppl before long mwhahahaha
CCP dude 1 : Yeah mwhahaha our master plan is finally coming together mwhahahaha
Get it into your paranoid infested heads that this is not some kind of secret conspiricy to rid you of your eve gaming time :D
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ollobrains
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Posted - 2005.05.19 11:22:00 -
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Nah its a matter of leaving sensible things for attention grabbing headlines like COSMOS still to much grand ideas and chest puffing on the yeu beaut ideas - and some solid gains in each patch but the standard stuff is still missing
Comet mining, Corp tax, Improvements to mining, etc.. Things that add good mid level functionability to the game and stop the frustration amoung players (ie like rats behaving really odd - battleships acting like frigs and frigs doing 1000+ dmg shots from 100km - common a 20k ISK frig blood oracle i think hit my shields as i was warping away from a belt 1005.6 dmg and then a 365.6 dmg shot - common what is this ?
Not to mention when im just finished one spawn and cleaning up loot whne i get all lagged up - when the respawn comes - what happens is i get connection to server lost - then there is the station undocking bug worst in 0.0 space - 2 minutes to undock and next time round 10 seconds.
Me thinks CCp servers need upgrading again 1 year old showing thie age.
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Rei Storm
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Posted - 2005.05.19 13:49:00 -
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Originally by: Dakath
I was told by the powers that be that I must post here.
And so I say, the 10 MINUTE LAG ON UN-DOCK IS STILL HERE AND IT DOES NOT MATTER IF THE REST OF EVE IS LAGGED OR NOT.
THIS IS A BUG AND CCP KNOWS ABOUT IT.
And CCP does not care about it either.
Someone give this guy a hug and a lolipop..
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Miri Tirzan
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Posted - 2005.05.19 16:00:00 -
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Damn, another gerble died!
When is the hamster upgrade coming?
svetlana - "whining gets you stuff. that is why humans got to the top of the food chain and all the other animals got nerfed."
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Embattle
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Posted - 2005.05.21 20:40:00 -
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Lag then a crash to login screen, happening most of the time since just after DT.
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Embattle
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Posted - 2005.05.22 09:17:00 -
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Edited by: Embattle on 22/05/2005 09:17:17
Those of you on Blueyonder ISP might want to check out this thread - http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=183393
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Ankanos
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Posted - 2005.05.23 10:25:00 -
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Originally by: Mannakin
I'm in Kor-Azor, the market is dead, docking or undocking freezes the game, opening my wallet causes a crash and logging in is almost impossible.
I've had various problems since Friday, but things are getting worse not better.
checking a dead market will give you dock/undock and gate problems... re-log and it will
fix itself... dont look at the dead market again unless you enjoy this...
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lonetrek market died around the same time both nights ( i think around 12:30-1am EST
makes me think a memory leak comes to head at this time...
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BIRDofPREY
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Posted - 2005.05.25 00:15:00 -
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Edited by: BIRDofPREY on 25/05/2005 00:30:43
last night I put 6 Commorants on the market for sale at 950,000 each. Today when I logged on, all of the ships had sold, and they showed up in my tranaction menu, but only 3 of the ships appeared in my journal and no associated isk.
These are the date and times of the sales from the transaction registers
2005.0524.0033
2005.0524.0037
2005.0524.0049
2005.0524.0555
2005.0524.0645
2005.0524.1432
these appear in the transaction register with the players buying the ships, but only these show up in the journal
2005.0524.0555
2005.0524.0645
2005.0524.1432
The sales seem to have happen within 00:00 and 01:00 GMT.
Did I get screwed out of 2,850,000 isk by a bork in the system
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BIRDofPREY
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Posted - 2005.05.25 00:17:00 -
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Originally by: Captain Rod
Well after my previous posts about "May Lag Fest 2005" it seems CCP are trying hard to make it happen. I haven't experienced such an extended period of troubles ever I don't think.
There has been longer down times but repeated long periods of lag/errors that are occuring every week and more than once a week? This is concerning me.
We all love this game thats a fact, but the lethargic communication of problems like this and their lack of resolution is frustrating. There really needs to be a "messenger" who can let us know whats going on and an estimated fix time if any. I won't put a 425mm rail to his head. I promise.
Lack of communication leads people to assume a distinct lack of respect for your customers. So talk. Let us know earlier rather than later. Cheers.
I smell another "Free day" rubish in the works
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