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Nex apparatu5
Viper RnD The Big Dirty
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Posted - 2012.12.11 23:34:00 -
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So, the most recent dev blog talked about Christmas and the celebrations that would be taking place.
Notably absent were neural remaps. We will not be receiving a bonus remap this year.
I've heard people saying this is a good thing (CCP shouldn't give out stuff that has a tangible in-game benefit) and that this is a welcome trend from CCP giving out items that are more than cosmetic.
On the flip side, I've heard people a little bit sad/angry they won't get another remap and will be stuck in their current remap longer than planned.
So, I ask, how does this make you feel? Should remaps be brought back? Should presents always be cosmetic? Should remaps be added to the Aurum store? Discuss! |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
716
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Posted - 2012.12.11 23:36:00 -
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No. Attributes have consequences. Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
1144
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Posted - 2012.12.11 23:38:00 -
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Players should only have the expectation of one Remap every 12 months. If another one is given, it's given. If not, not.
There honestly isn't anything to feel. Are you expecting Anger ? Love ? Fear ? Envy ?
It's probably not really an emotional point with too many people. If it is..... RIP Vile Rat-á "The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about." - Oscar Wilde |
raskonalkov
Tie Fighters Inc
19
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Posted - 2012.12.11 23:41:00 -
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Sansha Claus brings gifts, not salvation. |
iskflakes
Magnets Inc.
142
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Posted - 2012.12.11 23:46:00 -
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Neural remaps should be added to the NEX store for something like 1000 AUR (50m isk) Track your wealth with EVEStats - https://ohheck.co.uk/EVEStats/home.php |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
1960
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Posted - 2012.12.11 23:56:00 -
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I see all these pilots less than a year old whining for remaps.
How you can manage to burn through three in that amount of time is beyond me. Getting another one just enables your poor ability to accomplish the most basic time management.
No need for one at Christmas. It's wasted on you people.
Mr Epeen -ávOv |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
716
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Posted - 2012.12.11 23:59:00 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:I see all these pilots less than a year old whining for remaps. How you can manage to burn through three in that amount of time is beyond me. Getting another one just enables your poor ability to accomplish the most basic time management. No need for one at Christmas. It's wasted on you people. Mr Epeen
^^^^^^ T H I S ^^^^^^^^^ Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Xercodo
Xovoni Directorate
1569
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Posted - 2012.12.12 00:03:00 -
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anyone less than 4 years old missed the age of the snowball, they can whine all they want leading up to it but once it happens I think a bunch will shut up.
Those that don't will get larger bounties than the ones I'm sure they currently already have. The Drake is a Lie |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
1144
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Posted - 2012.12.12 00:03:00 -
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Seriously that on the posts above. I'm at least 6 months past on the one available, but it just ain't time yet.
And I'm always the one brining up the self-entitlement of 21st Century folks. RIP Vile Rat-á "The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about." - Oscar Wilde |
Sentient Blade
Walk It Off
567
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Posted - 2012.12.12 00:08:00 -
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New players, and I count anyone under 10m SP, don't have enough information to make informed choices on attribute selections and the likes. It's often the case that they barely know what they'll be doing next week, nevermind a year from now.
Attribute remaps come in really hand. A polarised remap can save months of training each year. |
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iskflakes
Magnets Inc.
142
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Posted - 2012.12.12 00:14:00 -
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New players don't know enough about the game to know how important remaps are to get right. Some of them burn all their remaps in the first few weeks and don't even realize why that's a bad thing. There should be consequences for your actions, but it shouldn't be impossible to correct your mistake. Make people pay a lot to fix their remap, that's a serious consequence but makes the game more attractive to new players, and veterans can still have more than one remap per year if they're willing to pay for it. Track your wealth with EVEStats - https://ohheck.co.uk/EVEStats/home.php |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
1144
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Posted - 2012.12.12 00:15:00 -
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A while back I was grateful for my accumulated hand-out remaps. It let me spend 3 months with "Charisma on Full-Blast", then switch back to something more rational. RIP Vile Rat-á "The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about." - Oscar Wilde |
Gotch Urarse
13
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Posted - 2012.12.12 00:21:00 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:I see all these pilots less than a year old whining for remaps. How you can manage to burn through three in that amount of time is beyond me. Getting another one just enables your poor ability to accomplish the most basic time management. No need for one at Christmas. It's wasted on you people. Mr Epeen
With all respect, new and not whining. Not all new players are insta-grads. Some of us are just late to the party. We accept long skill plans, trips to low/null and the fact that we need 5-10 fitted ships, ready to go. Just saying. |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5773
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Posted - 2012.12.12 00:24:00 -
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iskflakes wrote:Neural remaps should be added to the NEX store for something like 1000 AUR (50m isk)
I too want 5 free remaps with 2011's free aurum ~*a proud belligerent undesirable*~ TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. An idea for improving corp management |
Kukiri
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
11
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Posted - 2012.12.12 00:25:00 -
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Four and a half years old with four remaps still. I think I'm doing it wrong |
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ISD Suvetar
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
1213
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Posted - 2012.12.12 00:33:00 -
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Nex apparatu5 wrote:
On the flip side, I've heard people a little bit sad/angry they won't get another remap and will be stuck in their current remap longer than planned.
Speaking purely as a player; it baffles me that people plan their strategies around un-announced freebies. I wouldn't mind a free remap either, but I'd never plan my skilling around the assumption that I'll be getting a free one.
My old manager use to tell me 'to assume, makes an ASS of U and ME
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Tarn Kugisa
Infinite Covenant Tribal Band
191
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Posted - 2012.12.12 00:34:00 -
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I'm not complaining because I have a remap coming up this month FULL ON SPACESHIP COMMAND BABY I Endorse this Product and/or Service Source Recorder-esque tool for EVE |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5773
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Posted - 2012.12.12 00:34:00 -
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i started a 400 day per/will plan in July get owned ~*a proud belligerent undesirable*~ TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. An idea for improving corp management |
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra Gallente Federation
337
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Posted - 2012.12.12 00:36:00 -
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Nex apparatu5 wrote:So, the most recent dev blog talked about Christmas and the celebrations that would be taking place.
Notably absent were neural remaps. We will not be receiving a bonus remap this year.
I've heard people saying this is a good thing (CCP shouldn't give out stuff that has a tangible in-game benefit) and that this is a welcome trend from CCP giving out items that are more than cosmetic.
On the flip side, I've heard people a little bit sad/angry they won't get another remap and will be stuck in their current remap longer than planned.
So, I ask, how does this make you feel? Should remaps be brought back? Should presents always be cosmetic? Should remaps be added to the Aurum store? Discuss!
Perhaps if people didn't "plan" for free re-maps at christmas and expect them as if they were entitled, they wouldn't be relying so much on them and wouldn't be so upset. Christmas gifts = free stuff, at the discretion of the gaming devs. Old saying, don't look a gift horse in the mouth, applies. Be thankful we get free stuff, or next christmas they might consider the lack of appreciation as meaning we don't want anything at all. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |
Orzo Torasson
PonyWaffe Test Alliance Please Ignore
82
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Posted - 2012.12.12 00:50:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:A while back I was grateful for my accumulated hand-out remaps. It let me spend 3 months with "Charisma on Full-Blast", then switch back to something more rational.
I did this as well, but for a bit longer (all those boosting skills really add up) but the idea of a full 12 months on a full Charisma map makes me want to murder a baby.
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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
721
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Posted - 2012.12.12 01:05:00 -
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This will be one of the RARE instances where I will be helpful:
remap for: / Skill trees used for:
MEM / CHAR - CORP MANAGEMENT INTEL / MEM - ELECTRONICS/ENGINEERING/INDUSTRY/MECHANICS/PLANET MANAGE/SCIENCE/SUB SYS CHAR / WILL - LEADERSHIP/ TRADE PERCEPT / WILL - GUNNERY/MISSLES/SPACE COMMAND MEM / PERCEPT - DRONES INT / PERCEPT - NAVIGATION CHAR / INT - SOCIAL
Hint: newer characters need a good base in everything. !st remap for combat pilots / mission pilots should be to take away all charisma and place those attribute points evenly in the other 4 catergories. Then use 4 training implants (no charisma implant) to help boost those numbers a bit more. once you have a good base in everything (lvl 4), then remap to a 2pc combo as listed above and run through ALL THE LVL 5s in that catergory/group. once youve got that done, remap tot he next 2pc Combo and repeat the level 5 marathon.
Look at that...only 3 remaps used for the above training and that will take you more than 1 year and youll be able to fly/fit just about anything subcap and be ready for those big mother cap skills (this is where those nice bonus remaps you get are used).
This isnt how everyone does it, but its the way Ive found thats best.
Edited for clarity. Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Gotch Urarse
13
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Posted - 2012.12.12 01:07:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:This will be one of the RARE instances where I will be helpful:
remap for: / Skill trees used for:
MEM / CHAR / CORP MANAGEMENT INTEL / MEM / ELECTRONICS/ENGINEERING/INDUSTRY/MECHANICS/PLANET MANAGE/SCIENCE/SUB SYS CHAR / WILL / LEADERSHIP/ TRADE PERCEPT / WILL / GUNNERY/MISSLES/SPACE COMMAND MEM / PERCEPT / DRONES INT / PERCEPT / NAVIGATION CHAR / INT / SOCIAL
Hint: newer characters need a good base in everything. !st remap for combat pilots / mission pilots should be to take away all charisma and place those attribute points evenly in the other 4 catergories. Then use 4 training implants (no charisma implant) to help boost those numbers a bit more. once you have a good base in everything (lvl 4), then remap to a 2pc combo as listed above and run through ALL THE LVL 5s in that catergory/group. once youve got that done, remap tot he next 2pc Combo and repeat the level 5 marathon.
Look at that...only 3 remaps used for the above training and that will take you more than 1 year and youll be able to fly/fit just about anything subcap and be ready for those big mother cap skills (this is where those nice bonus remaps you get are used).
Why help? You are the highlight of my work day. I LOL reading your posts. You get me to 5pm. |
iskflakes
Magnets Inc.
142
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Posted - 2012.12.12 01:10:00 -
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ISD Suvetar wrote:Speaking purely as a player; it baffles me that people plan their strategies around un-announced freebies. I wouldn't mind a free remap either, but I'd never plan my skilling around the assumption that I'll be getting a free one.
People do it anyway and a lot of them might be disappointed. Although don't expect to see them posting until after (if) they fail to get a free remap. We don't actually know what's in the Christmas gifts though, and there's been a remap in there every year, so maybe we should have more faith in CCP.
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Isabelle Humphrey
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.12.12 01:12:00 -
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iskflakes wrote:Neural remaps should be added to the NEX store for something like 1000 AUR (50m isk)
Multiply that figure by at least 100 and we will have a reasonable sum. |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
1961
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Posted - 2012.12.12 01:15:00 -
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iskflakes wrote: We don't actually know what's in the Christmas gifts though, and there's been a remap in there every year...
Dude, we've only had remaps for a small portion of the years that EVE has been around. Used to be that you picked it at creation and that was it.
Getting one a year is already a bonus. We don't need two.
Mr Epeen
-ávOv |
iskflakes
Magnets Inc.
144
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Posted - 2012.12.12 03:10:00 -
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Isabelle Humphrey wrote:iskflakes wrote:Neural remaps should be added to the NEX store for something like 1000 AUR (50m isk) Multiply that figure by at least 100 and we will have a reasonable sum.
A reasonable sum for who? New players are the ones in need of remaps most. Personally I wouldn't object to 10,000 AUR (500m) though. Track your wealth with EVEStats - https://ohheck.co.uk/EVEStats/home.php |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5774
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Posted - 2012.12.12 06:43:00 -
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iskflakes wrote:Isabelle Humphrey wrote:iskflakes wrote:Neural remaps should be added to the NEX store for something like 1000 AUR (50m isk) Multiply that figure by at least 100 and we will have a reasonable sum. A reasonable sum for who? New players are the ones in need of remaps most. Personally I wouldn't object to 10,000 AUR (500m) though.
Where are you getting these figures? I thought one PLEX converted to 3500 AUR? ~*a proud belligerent undesirable*~ TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. An idea for improving corp management |
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra Gallente Federation
343
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Posted - 2012.12.12 06:45:00 -
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iskflakes wrote:Isabelle Humphrey wrote:iskflakes wrote:Neural remaps should be added to the NEX store for something like 1000 AUR (50m isk) Multiply that figure by at least 100 and we will have a reasonable sum. A reasonable sum for who? New players are the ones in need of remaps most. Personally I wouldn't object to 10,000 AUR (500m) though.
New players get two free remaps off the bat. Let's not make it TOO easy for them, k? You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |
TharOkha
0asis Group
197
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Posted - 2012.12.12 06:50:00 -
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Nex apparatu5 wrote: Should remaps be added to the Aurum store? Discuss! Why not? Lets say 3-PLEX per remap and max 2 remaps per year..... "Microtransactions" FTW GÇ£If reality can destroy the dream, why shouldn't the dream destroy reality?GÇ¥ |
Hrothgar Nilsson
Black Core Federation Black Core Alliance
162
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Posted - 2012.12.12 06:54:00 -
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Would be nice remaps accumulated on the basis of per 12 months played. That was my genuine impression because it seemed to make more sense than the 12-month countdown starting after the remap. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTzA_xesrL8 |
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