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DarkestHeart
The Pack Fidelas Constans
36
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Posted - 2012.12.14 12:14:00 -
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And that is the current situation when it comes to players views on the game.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2321428#post2321428
That, in the post I have linked, is the first official response we have had from CSM/CCP. They said the petition would be discussed in the Players Experiance session - no news on if it was, or what was decided. Ignored by CSM members, members that are there to represent us, the players.
Many of you will read the linked petition and just laugh but this goes beyond the JukeBox, this is now about communication with paying customers and the lack of respect CCP have for us.
I like this game, I've played it for years, but I've never felt so angry at being treated so badly by a company that is getting my money for a leisure activity.
Sort this **** out CCP. |

Remiel Pollard
Aliastra Gallente Federation
406
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Posted - 2012.12.14 12:17:00 -
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DarkestHeart wrote:And that is the current situation when it comes to players views on the game. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2321428#post2321428That, in the post I have linked, is the first official response we have had from CSM/CCP. They said the petition would be discussed in the Players Experiance session - no news on if it was, or what was decided. Ignored by CSM members, members that are there to represent us, the players. Many of you will read the linked petition and just laugh but this goes beyond the JukeBox, this is now about communication with paying customers and the lack of respect CCP have for us. I like this game, I've played it for years, but I've never felt so angry at being treated so badly by a company that is getting my money for a leisure activity. Sort this **** out CCP.
Lol, "challenge accepted", perfect response for this nonsense. You do realise that you aren't the only player in the game, right?
Anyway, this is just a rant thread. ibtl You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |

Snow Axe
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
674
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Posted - 2012.12.14 12:19:00 -
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Yeah CCP, lock step and do what they say before they reach ~100 signatures~! We don't know what'll happen then!*
* Yes we do **
** abloo bloooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
"Look any reason why you need to talk like that? I have now reported you. I dont need to listen to your bad tone. If you cant have a grown up conversation then leave the thread[" |

Remiel Pollard
Aliastra Gallente Federation
406
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Posted - 2012.12.14 12:21:00 -
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The petition is a good idea, though. It'll show how few people really care in comparison to the number of people who play the game. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |

War Kitten
Panda McLegion
1505
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Posted - 2012.12.14 12:22:00 -
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We, the people, do not want the jukebox to come back.
Go away.
I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all. |

Ruskarn Andedare
Lion Investments
23
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Posted - 2012.12.14 12:23:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:The petition is a good idea, though. It'll show how few people really care in comparison to the number of people who play the game.
No, it will show how few people in the forum really care - big difference |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
10661
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Posted - 2012.12.14 12:25:00 -
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So someone essentially suggested spamming them with complaints about an issue that doesn't seem to really engage the player base, and dared them to ignore the spam.
No, I'd say that response was pretty much spot on.
Oh, and before you complain about the lack of reporting on CSM sessions, maybe you should learn how that reporting is done so you can have some realistic basis for that complaintGǪ GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan. |

Remiel Pollard
Aliastra Gallente Federation
406
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Posted - 2012.12.14 12:26:00 -
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Ruskarn Andedare wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:The petition is a good idea, though. It'll show how few people really care in comparison to the number of people who play the game. No, it will show how few people in the forum really care - big difference
If someone cared enough, they'd go looking for the forums. Obviously, a lot of people are still playing completely unhindered by the removal of a feature that has no bearing on game-play whatsoever. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |

Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
3144
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Posted - 2012.12.14 12:27:00 -
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So you're angry, that CCP hasn't treated you as a special snowflake and CSM doesn't have much personal interest in it. OMG to the riot mobile. If they said they will discuss the issue at the meeting, they'll likely do exactly that. What exactly were you hoping for here? A mass movement of thousand angry protestors, because CCP finally decided to make an actual music system for the game and removal of a crappy music player? |

Snow Axe
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
675
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Posted - 2012.12.14 12:27:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:The petition is a good idea, though. It'll show how few people really care in comparison to the number of people who play the game.
10 days going and not even 80 signatures. If you ever needed the definition of an issue safe to ignore completely.... "Look any reason why you need to talk like that? I have now reported you. I dont need to listen to your bad tone. If you cant have a grown up conversation then leave the thread[" |

Sushi Nardieu
4
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Posted - 2012.12.14 12:27:00 -
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He's obviously joking. If you think it is a bad joke, then don't laugh.
But your complaint will be heard, and now it's going to make you look bad. Guns of Knowledge-á |

James Amril-Kesh
RAZOR Alliance
1469
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Posted - 2012.12.14 12:29:00 -
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That thread IS in F&I... -áObjects in mirror aren't as red as they appear. |

Ayumi Nevinyrall
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
38
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Posted - 2012.12.14 12:29:00 -
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There was a jukebox in EVE? Obvious alt is obvious... |

Brooks Puuntai
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
894
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Posted - 2012.12.14 12:31:00 -
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Eh I was pissed they took out the Jukebox but not enough to make an issue about. CCP gets lazy and drops stuff they don't want to update, same went for the "classic client".
Plus you should always expect CCP to ignore or make wise ass comments to most things on the forums, if they didn't then you should be concerned. |

Remiel Pollard
Aliastra Gallente Federation
406
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Posted - 2012.12.14 12:34:00 -
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FYI, CCP's official response to the jukebox issue has been available for a while now. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |

Minimal Charisma
Padded Sell
32
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Posted - 2012.12.14 12:41:00 -
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There's a slight bug caused by the removal of the jukebox. If you start the game with sound disabled (eg I'm supposed to be working), then enable it, you'll get no music. And no way to start the music, other than quitting and restarting.
Besides, what was the brilliantly insightful idea that caused it to be removed?
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Remiel Pollard
Aliastra Gallente Federation
407
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Posted - 2012.12.14 12:42:00 -
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Minimal Charisma wrote:There's a slight bug caused by the removal of the jukebox. If you start the game with sound disabled (eg I'm supposed to be working), then enable it, you'll get no music. And no way to start the music, other than quitting and restarting.
Besides, what was the brilliantly insightful idea that caused it to be removed?
Actually, that's what I did, I've had music turned off for months. Turned it on after logging in and it worked fine. Maybe you've got a problem with your sound card? I dunno.... but a bug like that would probably be more wide spread by now. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |

raskonalkov
Tie Fighters Inc
24
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Posted - 2012.12.14 13:39:00 -
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Hey I found the jukebox!!!
Its located at winamp.com. |

DarkestHeart
The Pack Fidelas Constans
36
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Posted - 2012.12.14 13:43:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Minimal Charisma wrote:There's a slight bug caused by the removal of the jukebox. If you start the game with sound disabled (eg I'm supposed to be working), then enable it, you'll get no music. And no way to start the music, other than quitting and restarting.
Besides, what was the brilliantly insightful idea that caused it to be removed?
Actually, that's what I did, I've had music turned off for months. Turned it on after logging in and it worked fine. Maybe you've got a problem with your sound card? I dunno.... but a bug like that would probably be more wide spread by now.
Same problem happens here.
This needs clearing up - the JukeBox thread wasnt intended to be about 'Baawwww my JukeBox is missing bawww' but more about how the new music system has been implemented in a way that isn't fit for purpose.
I like this game, otherwise I wouldnt keep playing it. I just think that CCP are not learning from their mistakes when they implement what could be a great system (and I have been saying that, a lot) but its full of bugs.
As it says in the JukeBox first post, the GUI is just a way of bypassing all the bugs and allowing players to listen to what they want to until the new system works properly. |

War Kitten
Panda McLegion
1507
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Posted - 2012.12.14 13:43:00 -
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Minimal Charisma wrote:
Besides, what was the brilliantly insightful idea that caused it to be removed?
Do your own homework. The answer is linked in a handful of threads.
I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all. |

baltec1
Bat Country
3292
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Posted - 2012.12.14 13:45:00 -
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Dont think I have ever touched the jukebox in 7 years... |

Damzan
Invictus Australis
0
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Posted - 2012.12.14 13:49:00 -
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I dunno...Ive been petitioning to CCP about the Decshield exploit but seems you need to be in goons or cfc to get a something done. Oh wait its only goons or cfc that get away with exploits... http://www.pcgamesn.com/eve/goonswarm-exploit-five-trillion-isk-eve-onlines-faction-warfare-mechanics-gloat-about-it
jukebox seems pretty minor IMHO |

Escomboli
Hammer Holding Wrong Hole.
16
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Posted - 2012.12.14 13:49:00 -
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DarkestHeart wrote:And that is the current situation when it comes to players views on the game. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2321428#post2321428That, in the post I have linked, is the first official response we have had from CSM/CCP. They said the petition would be discussed in the Players Experiance session - no news on if it was, or what was decided. Ignored by CSM members, members that are there to represent us, the players. Many of you will read the linked petition and just laugh but this goes beyond the JukeBox, this is now about communication with paying customers and the lack of respect CCP have for us. I like this game, I've played it for years, but I've never felt so angry at being treated so badly by a company that is getting my money for a leisure activity. Sort this **** out CCP.
You got it all wrong. The CSM is not here to represent the bulk of the player base. The CSM is here to push their own agenda that furthers their, and their alliance's wants/needs.
That is the main problem with it. You have a group of null-bears dictating the direction of the game. |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
10665
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Posted - 2012.12.14 13:49:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Dont think I have ever touched the jukebox in 7 years... I have. Mainly to turn off the music when for various reasons I needed sound to be on and hadn't turned the music volume down. It was a horrible mess, though, and dumping it for an environmental music system and letting people use their own (actually functional) music players for more controlled music choices was nothing but sound. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan. |

DarkestHeart
The Pack Fidelas Constans
36
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Posted - 2012.12.14 13:51:00 -
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Escomboli wrote:DarkestHeart wrote:And that is the current situation when it comes to players views on the game. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2321428#post2321428That, in the post I have linked, is the first official response we have had from CSM/CCP. They said the petition would be discussed in the Players Experiance session - no news on if it was, or what was decided. Ignored by CSM members, members that are there to represent us, the players. Many of you will read the linked petition and just laugh but this goes beyond the JukeBox, this is now about communication with paying customers and the lack of respect CCP have for us. I like this game, I've played it for years, but I've never felt so angry at being treated so badly by a company that is getting my money for a leisure activity. Sort this **** out CCP. You got it all wrong. The CSM is not here to represent the bulk of the player base. The CSM is here to push their own agenda that furthers their, and their alliance's wants/needs.
Touche. |

baltec1
Bat Country
3292
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Posted - 2012.12.14 13:53:00 -
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We did get it fixed though didn't we? |

Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
217
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Posted - 2012.12.14 13:56:00 -
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You mean the people who had all the isk they made from it taken away?
yeah thats really getting away with it, just stop with this tinfoil 'goons own the game' bullshit because its really getting too stupid to even call tinfoil now. |

Muestereate
Oneida Inc.
77
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Posted - 2012.12.14 14:24:00 -
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I actually like what they did with music and sound. I'm with the winamp post. Theres plenty of mp3 players out there. How much do you need in your ears though, teamspeaks blaring, multiple chat windows scrolling. I have sensory overload already enough that I turn off camera shake :) |

Escomboli
Hammer Holding Wrong Hole.
16
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Posted - 2012.12.14 14:25:00 -
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Darek Castigatus wrote:You mean the people who had all the isk they made from it taken away? yeah thats really getting away with it, just stop with this tinfoil 'goons own the game' bullshit because its really getting too stupid to even call tinfoil now.
They may have gotten the trillions they made from exploiting the system removed, but what you forget to mention is they were given an un-told amount of PLEX by CCP for "pointing out the exploit".
This is, you know, after they did a work around for the hot fix CCP threw out, caused many hours of CCP's time to be wasted dealing with the **** storm, breaking FW for quite some time, etc.
If it were people associated with any other alliance/corp those people would have been immediately banned without question. |

Dheeradj Nurgle
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
29
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Posted - 2012.12.14 14:27:00 -
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Pro-tip, the ISK was taken away, and the Exploit was fixed.
They walked away because they reported it themself. |
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