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Ly'sol
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Posted - 2005.05.21 08:15:00 -
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Edited by: Ly''sol on 21/05/2005 08:17:57
Ishukone had it coming.
Complete disregard to good business and customs of the Caldari have made me totally insensitive to what they do.
Im honestly surprised that Lai Dai hasnt rubbed it in thier faces yet.
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Hakera
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Posted - 2005.05.21 08:48:00 -
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My brothers have already said it, but we will defend Ullia and his wife. If you want him, you will have to come through us.
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Xav Vorbarra
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Posted - 2005.05.21 09:26:00 -
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By order of the State, if I come across this individual I will apprehend him down in the name of the glorious State and the Corporations.
Any Caldari considering helping this individual should be consider a traitor and is guilty of High Treason against the State, therefore should be treated as a criminal.
For the State and Tovil-Toba's supreme sacrifice, Ullia Hnolku will be brought to justice.
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Brute Helmet
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Posted - 2005.05.21 15:54:00 -
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 Originally by: Xav Vorbarra
By order of the State, if I come across this individual I will apprehend him down in the name of the glorious State and the Corporations.
Any Caldari considering helping this individual should be consider a traitor and is guilty of High Treason against the State, therefore should be treated as a criminal.
For the State and Tovil-Toba's supreme sacrifice, Ullia Hnolku will be brought to justice.
Well, the best thing for all would of course be if the research data was made available to all via GalNet. Im sure a willing node operator could be found....
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Yuki Li
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Posted - 2005.05.21 16:52:00 -
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Aiding criminals, thieves. I'm fairly disgusted at this display.
If he runs into me, or a member of Omerta Syndicate, the retrieval will be either his cargo or his corpse.
[ 2004.07.31 17:31:00 ] (combat) Gallente Police Major strikes you perfectly, wrecking for 427.9 damage.
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Paladine Tor
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Posted - 2005.05.21 18:26:00 -
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Originally by: Pulgor
Another conspericy with one person.
That is the worst kind! 
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Kade Shaderow
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Posted - 2005.05.21 19:50:00 -
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Originally by: Pulgor
Kade, this is what trolling is. Notate it well, because it seems your bretheren have it down to an artform.
I told you - Stop Calling Me. I'm not interested in a date with you.
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Van Cleef
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Posted - 2005.05.21 23:03:00 -
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Originally by: Brute Helmet
Isnt it interesting how an extremist grouping like CAIN ....
What extreme do we represent?
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Tar Kovsky
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Posted - 2005.05.21 23:30:00 -
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Originally by: Van Cleef
Originally by: Brute Helmet
Isnt it interesting how an extremist grouping like CAIN ....
What extreme do we represent?
The extreme of private profit versus public good. In other words, greed.
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Shiner BockBeer
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Posted - 2005.05.21 23:40:00 -
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How am I supposed to recognize him with that big banner across his face?
I mean, he could be drinking at the bar next to me and I wouldn't even know.
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Kade Shaderow
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Posted - 2005.05.21 23:44:00 -
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Edited by: Kade Shaderow on 21/05/2005 23:44:21
Originally by: Tar Kovsky
What extreme do we represent?
The extreme of private profit versus public good. In other words, greed.
Greed is what created the Minmatar Republic. The greed for property, in the case of your people, the property of their own bodies. On the other side of this coin was the prosperity (public good) that slavery brought to the Amarran Imperium. The Caldari State and the Republic are not so much different, and that's not as much a bad thing as you'd expect.
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Snyper Kitten
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Posted - 2005.05.22 02:44:00 -
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Edited by: Snyper Kitten on 22/05/2005 02:46:12
At this time I do not see any official charges merely speculation.
The right hand doesnt even know what the left hand is doing
point 1:
Special Counsel Tar Maurisi, head of the Bureau's investigation, has swiftly moved to deny the claims, stating that they are "sensationalistic propaganda spread by opportunistic parties interested in seeing Amarr-Caldari relations soured.
At any rate officially CAIN has no jurisdiction.
on moral grounds i stand with my alliance brothers in defending the Good Dr. and keeping he and his wife protected from the mindless lapdogs that would cut him down on the whim of their souless masters.
as it was pointed out above this is all just heresay and sensational propoganda therefore any acts of aggression and or forcebly detaining the good Dr. and or his wife are illeagle activities. and will be dealt with using whatever force is necissary
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Pulgor
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Posted - 2005.05.22 03:32:00 -
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Originally by: Kade Shaderow
Originally by: Pulgor
Kade, this is what trolling is. Notate it well, because it seems your bretheren have it down to an artform.
I told you - Stop Calling Me. I'm not interested in a date with you.
Liar.
However I'm going to decline your invitation for now due to the fact that you're not my type.
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Visit the Ammatar channel ingame!
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Kade Shaderow
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Posted - 2005.05.22 03:52:00 -
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Originally by: Pulgor
Liar.
However I'm going to decline your invitation for now due to the fact that you're not my type.
You say that, and yet you seem to like talking about me even when I'm not around.
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Xav Vorbarra
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Posted - 2005.05.22 04:00:00 -
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The Matari are far from innocent. Your version of "good" is only a point of view, an opinion. Unfortunatly, despite what you believe, what is good for the Republic may not be good for the rest of the galaxy.
If it isn't already painfully obvieous you are not all innocent. You have this pre-concepted idea that you are "the good guys" fighting for the galaxy. You don't care about how this could affect billions upon trillions of people's lives.
You're so obsessed with your little revoltionary ideas that you think not about what's best for the galaxy, only your own people. Don't get me wrong, I'm as guilty as sin for many things but I don't play around with things that could change the very fragile balance of power right now. I would not like a war at this time, regardless of how profitable it could be. You would believe a wanted criminal, a traitor and defy the State over a rumour?
By the way, if you get this stuff and release it and it actually is dangerous to human health, e.g. causes a galactic plague of some sorts. I will personally round up a band and slay every Matar I come across.
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Kade Shaderow
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Posted - 2005.05.22 04:37:00 -
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Pulgor, upon reading an official remark from a Caldari Navy representative about this situation, I have to apologize for being hostile to you. This entire debacle is complete and utter insanity.
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Makkar
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Posted - 2005.05.22 05:04:00 -
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Originally by: Xav Vorbarra
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By the way, if you get this stuff and release it and it actually is dangerous to human health, e.g. causes a galactic plague of some sorts. I will personally round up a band and slay every Matar I come across.
Your (threat/rant/scheming/slaving) is being held in a queue. Our operatives are experiencing an unusually high demand on their ammunition at the moment, but rest assured, your loot and smoking wreckage are important to us, and we will deal with your (threat/rant/scheming/slaving) as soon as possible.
The Ushra'Khan thanks you for your patience at this busy time, and apologises for the delay in activating your clone contract, and any distress this may cause.
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Nero Scuro
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Posted - 2005.05.22 05:23:00 -
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Originally by: Yuki Li
Aiding criminals, thieves. I'm fairly disgusted at this display.
If he runs into me, or a member of Omerta Syndicate, the retrieval will be either his cargo or his corpse.
Originally by: Snyper Kitten
on moral grounds i stand with my alliance brothers in defending the Good Dr. and keeping he and his wife protected from the mindless lapdogs that would cut him down on the whim of their souless masters.
What was that, Snyper Kitten? Something about the right hand not knowing what the left was doing?
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Xav Vorbarra
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Posted - 2005.05.22 06:26:00 -
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Edited by: Xav Vorbarra on 22/05/2005 06:26:17
Feel free to make comments like that when you've actually gotten near me Makkar
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Syntomo
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Posted - 2005.05.22 07:34:00 -
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It would be nice if we had the communications tools to properly screen improperly credentialed pilots from participating in announcements pertaining to state or corporate affairs.
There is no other way to get the debating-types and their inane opinions on their abstract liberalist ethics devolved from the individual ownership of property and conceptions of people as their own "property" out the picture when it comes to discussing important practical matters of state. They seem to have no conception of urgency or practicality. One can hardly fail to expect that from Gallentean citizens nor owning-class minmatars in that region in which the GalFed is increasingly monopolizing their political and economic dominance.
As such, it would be utile if censorship could occur on the basis of faction standing in order to maintain collective unity and muzzle the dominant, disturbed, minarchist element where they will only seek to be rhetorically obstructive and philosophically obscure.
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Ly'sol
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Posted - 2005.05.22 08:23:00 -
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Originally by: Nero Scuro
Originally by: Yuki Li
Aiding criminals, thieves. I'm fairly disgusted at this display.
If he runs into me, or a member of Omerta Syndicate, the retrieval will be either his cargo or his corpse.
Originally by: Snyper Kitten
on moral grounds i stand with my alliance brothers in defending the Good Dr. and keeping he and his wife protected from the mindless lapdogs that would cut him down on the whim of their souless masters.
What was that, Snyper Kitten? Something about the right hand not knowing what the left was doing?
Its how we operate. Live with it.
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Makkar
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Posted - 2005.05.22 08:54:00 -
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Syntomo, I agree it would be very useful if all dissenting voices could be filtered out when State propaganda is being published, however if that is your wish, I suggest the original poster restrict his posting to some marginal Caldari propaganda forum, and away from the main, open for all, CONCORD controlled GalNet.
Then you can merrily spew away in your own happy little bubble, free of niggling little annoyances like facts, and the opinions of sane, free thinking individuals.
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Dev Larren
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Posted - 2005.05.22 08:57:00 -
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Originally by: Brute Helmet
Isnt it interesting how an extremist grouping like CAIN are the ones with their panties in a real twist over the Hnolku affair ? There is a rumour going around that CAIN had their entire pension fund invested in Zainou stock and are very eager to apprehend Hnolku for that reason.
((OOC - amusing post))
As CO of CAIN I can safetly refute any rumour that CAIN has lost financially through any investment in Zainou stock.
Our motivation in this affair is to see a Caldari citizen face justice for his criminal acts and to ensure a Caldari research product does not end up in the wrong hands. This is hardly the stance of "extremists."
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Van Cleef
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Posted - 2005.05.22 09:51:00 -
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Originally by: Snyper Kitten
Edited by: Snyper Kitten on 22/05/2005 02:46:12
At any rate officially CAIN has no jurisdiction.
on moral grounds i stand with my alliance brothers in defending the Good Dr. and keeping he and his wife protected from the mindless lapdogs that would cut him down on the whim of their souless masters.
... any acts of aggression and or forcebly detaining the good Dr. and or his wife are illeagle activities. and will be dealt with using whatever force is necissary
The jurisdiction rests with the original crime being committed against the Caldari State, I question where you derive your jurisdiction that you are assisting a fugitive.
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Ly'sol
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Posted - 2005.05.22 09:52:00 -
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Yea know i did some background research on former employees of Zainou and Ishukone. And one very prominate figure stands out. Tyma Raita. Turns out he did the exact same thing because his ideas and research were being stolen from him.
Many of us who have half a brain to rub against know who this guy is, and you didnt see the State start going nuts over him. No, he became famous.
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Vendris
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Posted - 2005.05.22 10:14:00 -
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CAIN are indeed right.
The doctor was working for Ishukone at the time of the breakthrough, conducting research funded by Ishukone money. The discovery is the intellectual property of Ishukone, and as such the doctor's actions constitute Grand Theft; Data. Any that aid him are therefore accomplices to this crime, and are equally culpable to Ishukone and it's law enforcement subsiduries. Where the accomplices turn out to be foreign nationals, Ishukone would need to apply to CONCORD to involve foreign law enforcement personnel and start extradition proceedings in the event of their capture by said foreign law enforcement personnel. Involvement of external freelance apprehension contractors, (to whit; Bounty Hunters), would be at the sole discretion of Ishukone, though, and I feel it would be unwise for interested but unaffiliated parties to intervene in the case without a... Hmmm... I believe the ancient nautical term was a "Letter of Marque", to engage and apprehend said foreign accomplices.
Note my use of "Ishukone" and not "Caldari State" in the above statement, though. It is an internal Ishukone matter, and not a State matter. I'm sure Ishukone would be just as aggrieved were their discovery to fall into the hands of potential Caldari competetors acting falsely on behalf of the State, as they would if it were to fall into the hands of the Gallente or Minmatar, or, indeed, Amarr. I'm not saying the "State" (by which I mean the council of the most powerful megacorps) is not just as anxious to recover the serum as Ishukone are, but let's not pretend it's on grounds of any sense of "national solidarity".
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Tar Kovsky
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Posted - 2005.05.22 12:07:00 -
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Originally by: Kade Shaderow
Greed is what created the Minmatar Republic. The greed for property, in the case of your people, the property of their own bodies. On the other side of this coin was the prosperity (public good) that slavery brought to the Amarran Imperium.
If you don't have the ability to distinguish between basic human needs -- food, shelter, safety, freedom -- and a few more ISK in the pocket of a large megacorporation, then you and I have no common basis for communication.
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Nero Scuro
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Posted - 2005.05.22 16:58:00 -
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Originally by: Ly'sol
Originally by: Nero Scuro
Originally by: Yuki Li
Aiding criminals, thieves. I'm fairly disgusted at this display.
If he runs into me, or a member of Omerta Syndicate, the retrieval will be either his cargo or his corpse.
Originally by: Snyper Kitten
on moral grounds i stand with my alliance brothers in defending the Good Dr. and keeping he and his wife protected from the mindless lapdogs that would cut him down on the whim of their souless masters.
What was that, Snyper Kitten? Something about the right hand not knowing what the left was doing?
Its how we operate. Live with it.
You operate by contradicting yourselves? Explains a lot.
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Ly'sol
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Posted - 2005.05.22 18:51:00 -
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Tell me what organization doesnt nero?
Most have a voice for the many.
We have a voice of the many.
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Nero Scuro
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Posted - 2005.05.22 19:14:00 -
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What? That didn't even make SENSE! You're just being vague in the blind hope that someone will mistake it for wisdom. It isn't working.
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