| Pages: 1 [2] 3 :: one page |
| Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 2 post(s) |

Grath Telkin
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
1127
|
Posted - 2012.12.20 13:41:00 -
[31] - Quote
IIRC about 2 years ago in a ask a dev thread (dont hold me to that, 2 years is a long time to remember the exact where of it) a Dev specifically said they'd stop prosecuting account sharing as a crime, but that if you had an issue where things were stolen from your account and the KNEW you shared, they'd make no effort to return your goods. |

Gotch Urarse
19
|
Posted - 2012.12.20 13:57:00 -
[32] - Quote
There's a lot of 'meta' in this game. How many use alts here for in-game purposes? I don't see why some kind of web enabled front to manage skill queues would be so wrong. As far as it forcing people to log in and play, how many have seen a corp-mate (or done it themselves), "just logging in to manage skills"?
my .02 ISKs |

True Sight
Deep Freeze Industries
81
|
Posted - 2012.12.20 21:32:00 -
[33] - Quote
Think of an MMO subscription like a Gym Membership.
Paying a monthly fee gives you exclusive access to services and facilities which are not available to someone not paying their own subscription.
If you have a Gym membership and are in the military, or have any job that involves being away for long periods of time, you cannot give your membership card to a friend to use, the membership is for you.
If your friend fancies using a treadmill and knows you have a membership, he cannot borrow your membership card and use the Gym.
A Gym costs a lot of money to maintain, replacing equipment, cleaning, paying staff, computers etc. an MMO also costs a lot of money to maintain. If you wish to gain access to those benefits you should be paying a subscription too.
If you need access to a Freighter and do not have one, then you should use some of your subscription time to train for and acquire your own and use it yourself. |

True Sight
Deep Freeze Industries
81
|
Posted - 2012.12.20 21:40:00 -
[34] - Quote
Tiberius Murderhorne wrote:dexington wrote:Why not just make the queue is as long as the game time the account is currently holding, if you wanted to train for 6 or 12 months you just need to need to pay for the game time in advance. This solves the problem right here... CCP Why is the queue only limited to 24 hours?? (genuine question! no trolling!) Cheers Tib
I'll hop in and answer this as I've seen them respond to this in the past, in the end its simply stated as a "eve is a game, we want people to play the game, we think it is wrong that someone should be able to handle a significantly important aspect of the game without even having to log in" |

Lady Spank
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
3009
|
Posted - 2012.12.20 21:41:00 -
[35] - Quote
Why stop at military people. What about people doing more noble tasks like astronauts. What about homeless people that can't always get access to a computer? What about convicts?
The simple answer is life is unfair and you have to deal with your choices. If Eve online is so important to you that you worry about being deployed then perhaps you should do something about that in real life.
Since it's understandably a taboo topic; I won't say anything regarding account sharing other than it's painfully obvious people do it all the time. (a¦á_a¦â) ~ (my spaceblog) http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.co.uk/~ (a¦á_a¦â) |

Vertisce Soritenshi
Tactical Vendor of Services and Goods Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage
1906
|
Posted - 2012.12.20 21:56:00 -
[36] - Quote
The Lady Nighthawk wrote:Hi
I believe that account sharing should not be against the EULA. There are players who are in the military an are punished because you cannot change there skills for them because you fear being banned. so here is a list
1. military players get punished for playing No they don't. I know plenty of military guys that log on while they are deployed and change skills when they need to. I also seriously doubt CCP is going to find out that you are managing your buddies account for him while he is away. Account sharing is mostly meant to prevent accounts being used 24/7 by 4 or 5 different people. 2. Your friend has an orca but you cannot use it because you risk being banned Learn to use an Orca. Then buy one of your own. Or use a POS to store it so everybody can use it that has access. 3. A JF is needed, your friend has one but u cant use it for the same reason above What the hell is a JF? Same as above.
I could go on but i think that ccp should issue blanket rules They do. You just don't seem to agree with them.
1. If you share an account, you should be able to mark it in your account management. I.e a button saying *account is shared* No reason for this. 2. If your account is robbed, CCP should ban the player who robbed it but none of your stuff will be returned So CCP should be responsible for your items that are stolen due to you sharing with someone else at their own cost not only in that they have to spend more time policing your account but also when they are losing money on an account your friend should be using instead of sharing yours? Yeah...no.
etc No.
it will not be hard to implement. CCP need to be more lenient and put things in place. No...they really don't. But you are right. It will not be hard to implement since they don't need to implement it at all.
I have not account shared myself, but, that being said, things need to change. Again...no...they don't.
Please like the post if you agree. Yeah...I will go read all of the responses now and see how many people disagree with me. Bounties for all! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2279821#post2279821 |

Acac Sunflyier
Burning Star L.L.C.
305
|
Posted - 2012.12.20 21:59:00 -
[37] - Quote
CausticS0da wrote: Nobody cares if you're in 'duh military' or not ... You're not special so I don't get where you get your sense of entitlement from.
Well I've made multiple requests for skill queues to be linked to eve gate for just such people.
There just isn't anything intresting on the front page of the GD anymore. Yawn! |

Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1472
|
Posted - 2012.12.20 22:03:00 -
[38] - Quote
Mr Pragmatic wrote:People in the military are entitlement to special treatment, they sacrifice THEIR rights so you can have yours. It doesn't matter what military you are in.
In reality, certainly. In a computer game, no. Your opinion of them sacrificing their rights is open to debate as there is plenty of military jobs where this is not the case & the fact is, these people choose to have these jobs. They chose to join the military in the first place. It's pointless trying to claim special treatment for being in the military when for all we know, you could be a general hand. It's about time CCP stops catering to the lazy players with this sense of entitlement for fear of losing money. These aren't the people making the game better, these are the people wanting you to turn EVE in to a game that is like most other MMO's. |

Malphilos
State War Academy Caldari State
237
|
Posted - 2012.12.20 22:09:00 -
[39] - Quote
Tippia wrote:Players online are what create the content for the game. Having people not log in reduces that content.
So 10+ day skills are what's killing EVE! At last, the culprit is found!

|

James Amril-Kesh
RAZOR Alliance
1510
|
Posted - 2012.12.20 22:09:00 -
[40] - Quote
"I work for a group that kills people for a living, treat me special or else!" -áObjects in mirror aren't as red as they appear. |

Aidan Brooder
Dynasphere Ltd.
218
|
Posted - 2012.12.20 22:23:00 -
[41] - Quote
The Lady Nighthawk wrote:Hi
I believe that account sharing should not be against the EULA. There are players who are in the military an are punished because you cannot change there skills for them because you fear being banned. so here is a list
1. military players get punished for playing 2. Your friend has an orca but you cannot use it because you risk being banned 3. A JF is needed, your friend has one but u cant use it for the same reason above
I could go on but i think that ccp should issue blanket rules
1. If you share an account, you should be able to mark it in your account management. I.e a button saying *account is shared* 2. If your account is robbed, CCP should ban the player who robbed it but none of your stuff will be returned
etc
it will not be hard to implement. CCP need to be more lenient and put things in place.
I have not account shared myself, but, that being said, things need to change.
Please like the post if you agree.
1. You might not believe it, but there are people other than soldiers on this planet who can't play EVE all the time. If work wouldn't send me all across the globe all the time, I'd play more EVE.
2. Your friend can contract you his Orca, before he logs off? What is this? Communism? ;)
3. Basically what you are saying is: If there is a 200 man corp, lets just groom/buy & build 10 toons for the ten players that are online at a time (or the elite) and then they can use the best all the time... Also of course friends, allies & enemies have to guess whom they are talking to. Mark, the stalwart soldier... Or is it Nick, the soap opera actor... Or Jeff, the lumberjack? There should be some consistency even with chars. Or the next big business will be: "Rent a char" |

Mishraile Viliana
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
6
|
Posted - 2012.12.20 22:28:00 -
[42] - Quote
There isn't really anything to prevent you from sharing your account. Just ask yourself, if you ask your wife/husband, girlfriend/boyfriend to change your skills or even quickly log in a character to do something and they do this from a location and even computer that you use regularly how is CCP goint to tell that it is an different person then the one the account is registered to?
The main reason that there is a rule that forbids accountsharing is to make sure that you have responsibility for anything that happens with your account and that you cannot hold CCP responsible if the person you decide to trust with your accountinformation decided to steal/destroy everything you have on it, gets you banned for whatever reason or just uses your charecter to really **** of everyone in game to the extent they will hunt you down at any opportunity. And because of this most game will forbid accountsharing mostly to protect themselves from people trying to blame them because they themselves trusted the wrong people. |

Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
10881
|
Posted - 2012.12.20 22:29:00 -
[43] - Quote
Malphilos wrote:Tippia wrote:Players online are what create the content for the game. Having people not log in reduces that content. So 10+ day skills are what's killing EVE! At last, the culprit is found!  Nah Eve is dead, didn't you get the memo?
I did notice one thing though. When that Tippia comment flew over your head, it took your wig with it.  
CCP Zulu..... Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience. |

Aidan Brooder
Dynasphere Ltd.
218
|
Posted - 2012.12.20 22:34:00 -
[44] - Quote
Mishraile Viliana wrote:There isn't really anything to prevent you from sharing your account. Just ask yourself, if you ask your wife/husband, girlfriend/boyfriend to change your skills or even quickly log in a character to do something and they do this from a location and even computer that you use regularly how is CCP goint to tell that it is an different person then the one the account is registered to?
The main reason that there is a rule that forbids accountsharing is to make sure that you have responsibility for anything that happens with your account and that you cannot hold CCP responsible if the person you decide to trust with your accountinformation decided to steal/destroy everything you have on it, gets you banned for whatever reason or just uses your charecter to really **** of everyone in game to the extent they will hunt you down at any opportunity. And because of this most game will forbid accountsharing mostly to protect themselves from people trying to blame them because they themselves trusted the wrong people.
Lets be honest: The main reason why most companies forbid account sharing, even if you can have (depending on game) 4-8 full characters in theory - unlike in EVE: It makes more money! ;) A family of four should goddamn have four accounts! (...well, of course if they dooo that... different question...) |

March rabbit
Federal Defense Union
288
|
Posted - 2012.12.20 22:38:00 -
[45] - Quote
Mr Pragmatic wrote:CausticS0da wrote:It's to protect against account theft and people complaining to CCP when things get stolen. The effect is that you're welcome to share your information with others if you want but can't blame CCP if things go wrong.
Nobody cares if you're in 'duh military' or not ... You're not special so I don't get where you get your sense of entitlement from. People in the military are entitlement to special treatment, they sacrifice THEIR rights so you can have yours. It doesn't matter what military you are in. thanks! it was really funny to read 
"they sacrifice... for your rights" oh.... |

Vera Algaert
Republic University Minmatar Republic
507
|
Posted - 2012.12.20 22:45:00 -
[46] - Quote
Mr Pragmatic wrote: People in the military are entitlement to special treatment, they sacrifice THEIR rights so you can have yours. It doesn't matter what military you are in.
I want to take this opportunity to thank all members of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard for sacrificing their rights so I can have ... oh wait  I'm a NPC corp alt, any argument I make is invalid. |

Rain6637
Team Evil
28
|
Posted - 2012.12.20 23:57:00 -
[47] - Quote
I would have asked my sister to update my skill queue while I was in Iraq, but the thought of EPIC alt spy caused me more stress than peace, so I planned a 24 day skill and left it as something to look forward to when I got home.
lol Vera |

Shalia Ripper
228
|
Posted - 2012.12.21 00:21:00 -
[48] - Quote
My reason to want account sharing is that I would like to share my 2nd account with my son that lives in another state. Why can't I just delete my signature CCP? WHYYYYYYY?
Signatures have consequences - Malcanis
|

Varius Xeral
Galactic Trade Syndicate
30
|
Posted - 2012.12.21 00:25:00 -
[49] - Quote
Parents sharing with children is an exception to the account sharing rule. |

Xercodo
Xovoni Directorate
1624
|
Posted - 2012.12.21 00:28:00 -
[50] - Quote
Guys guys guys!
Bunk this whooooole convo and lets all start talking about the REAL solution to this problem.
Pushing out the full CREST API that will then allow us to write apps that could potentially let us change skills with something like a smart phone or any other internet capable device. The Drake is a Lie |

Mund Richard
67
|
Posted - 2012.12.21 00:36:00 -
[51] - Quote
Acac Sunflyier wrote:CausticS0da wrote:Nobody cares if you're in 'duh military' or not ... You're not special so I don't get where you get your sense of entitlement from. Well I've made multiple requests for skill queues to be linked to eve gate for just such people. For those horrible-horrible people who do not use the search function for long enough to find an answer from CCP... What did they say?
Sarcasm can be like drugs. |

Julius Priscus
31
|
Posted - 2012.12.21 00:40:00 -
[52] - Quote
The Lady Nighthawk wrote:1. If you share an account, you should be able to mark it in your account management. I.e a button saying *account is shared* 2. If your account is robbed, CCP should ban the player who robbed it but none of your stuff will be returned
So you share your account with me and I go out and loose your 7b isk mission ship to a kill right. I say **** OFF and you aint getting **** back. that would be YOUR fault for sharing your account.
I am sure as hell convinced this would open more cans of worms than close.
NO to your idea you idiot. speaking of idiots look up goshee in game I am sure he has a place for you in his new alliance. |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5838
|
Posted - 2012.12.21 00:42:00 -
[53] - Quote
Xercodo wrote:Guys guys guys!
Bunk this whooooole convo and lets all start talking about the REAL solution to this problem.
Pushing out the full CREST API that will then allow us to write apps that could potentially let us change skills with something like a smart phone or any other internet capable device.
This, basically. ~*a proud belligerent undesirable*~ TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. An idea for improving corp management |

Alec Stacer
Raven's Flight Nulli Legio
4
|
Posted - 2012.12.21 00:43:00 -
[54] - Quote
I play this game on more than 1 computer, with 2 accounts. How can CCP determine whether or not its me or my little brother. Even though he can't even figure out how to leave the station, he could very well be logging into my account on his computer when Im not home. |

Zol Interbottom
The Scope Gallente Federation
6
|
Posted - 2012.12.21 02:30:00 -
[55] - Quote
Mr Pragmatic wrote:CausticS0da wrote:It's to protect against account theft and people complaining to CCP when things get stolen. The effect is that you're welcome to share your information with others if you want but can't blame CCP if things go wrong.
Nobody cares if you're in 'duh military' or not ... You're not special so I don't get where you get your sense of entitlement from. *snipped needless insults* - CCP EternePeople in the military are entitlement to special treatment, they sacrifice THEIR rights so you can have yours. It doesn't matter what military you are in. Anyways, I don't see the problem with account sharing amongst friends. As long as you keep it legit and not screwing your friend over.
no they arent, they break the rules they deserve to be banned like everyone else |

Disciple Amphal
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
14
|
Posted - 2012.12.21 02:42:00 -
[56] - Quote
Unofficially you can share your account. You more than likely wont get banned.
Just don't complain when the person you share your account with gets sticky fingers.
EDIT: you're?!?!?!?!?! |

Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings Damu'Khonde
2150
|
Posted - 2012.12.21 02:53:00 -
[57] - Quote
Disciple Amphal wrote:Just don't complain when the person you share your account with gets sticky fingers.
EDIT: you're?!?!?!?!?! It's "your".
"You're" is a contraction for "you are", which is why it doesn't make sense in the context: "the person you share you are account with". Rifterlings - small gang frigate PvP - low/nullsec operations, newbie-friendly, free ship program; Join today! www.rifterlings.com
Accidentally The Whole Frigate (blog) - Learning how to pew pew, one loss at a time - www.thewholefrigate.com |

Disciple Amphal
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
14
|
Posted - 2012.12.21 03:18:00 -
[58] - Quote
Petrus Blackshell wrote:Disciple Amphal wrote:Just don't complain when the person you share your account with gets sticky fingers.
EDIT: you're?!?!?!?!?! It's "your". "You're" is a contraction for "you are", which is why it doesn't make sense in the context: "the person you share you are account with".
Cool. I initially had "you're" thus the edit.
I don't need your help bro! |

SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1080
|
Posted - 2012.12.21 03:47:00 -
[59] - Quote
Andski wrote:Xercodo wrote:Guys guys guys!
Bunk this whooooole convo and lets all start talking about the REAL solution to this problem.
Pushing out the full CREST API that will then allow us to write apps that could potentially let us change skills with something like a smart phone or any other internet capable device. This, basically.
My god, I could never log into eve again yet still play it.
Devs get on this stat! |

Xercodo
Xovoni Directorate
1626
|
Posted - 2012.12.21 03:48:00 -
[60] - Quote
SmilingVagrant wrote:Andski wrote:Xercodo wrote:Guys guys guys!
Bunk this whooooole convo and lets all start talking about the REAL solution to this problem.
Pushing out the full CREST API that will then allow us to write apps that could potentially let us change skills with something like a smart phone or any other internet capable device. This, basically. My god, I could never log into eve again yet still play it. Devs get on this stat!
http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=73971
beta is live :D The Drake is a Lie |
| |
|
| Pages: 1 [2] 3 :: one page |
| First page | Previous page | Next page | Last page |