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Would there really be a major difference in bot mechanics between Hi and null sec?

Surely the only change to the bot would be 'if friendly in local continue mining, if non friendly return to station' friendly being donated as corp/alliance/blue and non friendly being everybody else.

All i hear are carebear tears.......

Dude, games change. If you'd rather sit in empire and rot be my guest.

You could have seen it as an opportunity to make tons of iskies in 0.0. but nooooooooooo. It doesn't fit into your little box of what you think eve should be. Roll with the punches dude.

The thing that is funniest in this thread is the people who brush off or justify a change like this by saying, games change or you will have to change blah blah blah. While the angst is high on a proposition like this by those in high sec I simply have a couple of observations. First, is the patronage of players in high sec somehow inherently less valuable to CCP in some way that their game experience is so easily dismissed and relegated as some kind of experimental test monkey? Second, if the roles were reversed and a devblog was published where they were talking about moving high end moons to .2 and .3 space and ABCM minerals to highsec, the flood of tears would be enough to drown the world.

This guys says it all.

Removing ice from high sec will be a bad move for the industries in New Eden and the markets. Who ever thought this would be a good idea needs to have their one remaining brain cell taken off them. And anyone who thinks this is good needs a shotgun putting to their head to have an air conditioned brain.
Its the real life equivelance of removing all the pine trees in Scandinavia "OMG no more Ikea"

2: every body knows that low sec is where the low lifes live and the price of ice would far excede that for making a POS even isk stable

Ho wait, take rat belts away from the game too. Make every zone like 0.0 !! That's it, this is how eve should be: 100 stupid nerds shooting each other and 80% actual players leaving for other games.

Why do I think that you're concerned mostly about your own profits ?

Probably because you're not very bright. It doesn't require a whole lot of thought to trace out the consequences if there's a massive spike in pos fuel prices. When you make pos's in high sec and wormhole space dependant on fuel coming from null... everything they produce will spike in price, and only those that can continue to afford fuel will be able to keep going.

Adapt or die...I'm pretty certain this is the way that eve was meant to be played. I think that POS setups are all too common right now and that we need to have something to curtail it. Everyone and their mother should not be able to run a pos just because.

Adapt or die...I'm pretty certain this is the way that eve was meant to be played. I think that POS setups are all too common right now and that we need to have something to curtail it. Everyone and their mother should not be able to run a pos just because.

Im pretty certain your d**k and your brain is really small. ( Adapt or die is for the real world where there is a food chain)

What do you care if me or my mom has a POS. Thats the way I like to play "F" you.

Just because you dont have the intelligence to set up much less manage a POS doesnt mean those with an IQ higher than a Veldspar roid cant do so if we please in Hi-sec or anywhere else.

Its hi-sec because its civilized and the knuckle draggers like you cant stand the thought of nice people doing nice things.

This is internet spaceships where we ALL are supposed to have fun, not YOUR idea of fun.

So because you pay more than I do every month your fricking opinion about what I can and cant do in this game matters?

Its people like you that keep people like me from wanting to go to null sec in the first place.

So calm down i don't expect they will be taking ice away from high sec and give it to the nullsec idiots and let the whole economy go into a deep ressecsion it will never recover from

Clearly goons are just on a humanitarian mission with only the good health of their fellow players in mind.

Don't you think making 0.0 empires mine their own ice is worth watching? Belligerent Super cap pilots may still be.

I would LOVE for them to move ICE to null/low WITH some conditions:

A.) ICE must spawn at all grav sites and scaned out, NO ice patch on overview period.

B.)Cycle times be reduced

C.) Macks get a +2 warp stab built in

It would give miners some nice isk/hour finally with some kind of servivability.