Why should only sov owners have this ability anyway.

Why should only sov owners have this ability anyway.

What ability is it that only sov holders have again?

I propose a POS structure (one per system) to be built only by those with sovereignty

WeGÇÖre all aware of CCPGÇÖS stance on playing eve while AFK! Botters, warp to zero at the gate exploits all punishable offensives! So why are AFK cloakers getting a free ride?

Why should only sov owners have this ability anyway.

In case you did not know what AFK stands for, it means "Away From Keyboard".
As in, a person who can't possibly ever kill you while he is in that particular state.
Any "damage" an AFK cloaker can possibly do is self-inflicted fear-induced loss of earning opportunity.
Also, can't go on for weeks without breaks. We still have daily downtimes.

The simplest "fix" to the so-called "problem" of AFK cloakers is...
...removing cloaked ships from "local".
Now you either constantly crap your pants at the POSSIBILITY of somebody being there, or you just suck it up and go about your business the way you actually should if you have a "known" AFK cloaker in the system.
But that's waaaay too ballsy, eh ?

As to why that would be a solution - think spy alt plus logon trap.
I dare you to explain what the radical conceptual difference might be there other than the time spent e-warping for the logoff-trapper and slightly less preparation for the mostly-AFK-cloaker.
And why the AFK cloaking "has to be fixed" but the other not.
And if you plan to fix both, pray tell, how exactly would you fix the logged off guy's "threat" ?

its not about crying care bears! its about finally getting rid of the AFK element.

Your logic failed at this point, so I didn't read the rest.
If you can not see why, I see no further point discussing the issue with you.

So you should have absolutely nothing against removing cloaked ships from local then.

for what purpose? how does this address the AFK players?

It makes them practically almost identical to logged-off players.
Also, see caveat edit : uncloaking happens on a timer (not dead set on 5 sec though) and you start showing up in local by then.
You know, 5 sec, or whatever the heck it usually takes for an log-on e-warp, so that both get treated almost exactly the same.

do you have any other fed back with the rest of my proposal?

Heavy-handed, wholly unnecessary, and downright unfair in parts. Other than that, nope, no other feedback, sorry.

AFK cloaking is not a problem, never was.
Self-induced fear always was, and always will be. You can't fix that completely.
Yes, a person returning at the keyboard after a long stint of AFK cloaking DOES get somewhat of an advantage now, but my seemingly harsh alternative actually WOULD remove that advantage without any drawbacks in the actual AFK period.

1) Use a locator agent to find Kingpin Nil.
2) Fly to where he usually hangs out in a cloaky ship.
3) Make safe spot.
4) Warp to safe spot.
5) Cloak if you already haven't.
6) Go watch TV.

Care to elaborate a bit further unfair?

but you were about to explain why players need to go AFK?

it already happens! lol but you were about to explain why players need to go AFK?

Just because they are sitting there doesn't mean they are actually AFK. They could be gathering valuable intelligence on your operations, lol. Also, might also be doing stuff on other characters, as I do. And I think it's mainly done because people know it disrupts things, and of course, there are the tears it can cause. Or maybe they just like the scenery and are admiring it.

That one.

eliminates the chances of a player deciding to go AFK

While actually AFK, you can't do a damn thing to anybody else, so it's not fair others can easily do something to you if you took even the slightest of precautions while remaining AFK.
It is unfair that you get an advantage over a person who logged off instead of going AFK-cloaky when you both return, so THAT is the only thing that needs to be addressed.
AFK cloaking should be made as close as possible to actually logging off. Or conversely, logging off should be made as close as possible to AFK cloaking.


To make you afraid of them being there, even if you shouldn't.
Which they can't do if you can't see them at all.

Of course, there's also LEGITIMATE non-evil reasons to go AFK instead of logging off, and nobody should be punished nor rewarded for picking one above the other.

Why ?
I get that it should not be rewarded, I completely agree, and my proposal actually DOES remove that reward.
No, seriously, WHY should going AFK be punished in any way, shape or form ? Why is your proposal even NECESSARY ?

Thanks. It was such a bad idea my brain refused to process it the first time.

again why would you decide to go AFK?