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Cindy Marco
Expanse Security
86
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Posted - 2012.12.24 04:07:00 -
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Best
Red Moon Rising. It added a ton of content : Carriers, Moms, Titans, Barges , Dictors, Recons, Command Ships, Jump clones, COSMOS, Remote research/production, Drone skills, Ewar drones
Apocrypha: Wormholes/sleepers and everything that came with them, Skill queue (I do not miss alarm clock skill changes)
Worse
Incarna.... What can be said about Incarna? I would have been less offended if CCP had just spit in my face, kicked me in the balls and took my wallet.
There isn't even another expansion I can flat out label as worthless. They all added SOMETHING of value, except Incarna.
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NEONOVUS
Saablast Followers
103
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Posted - 2012.12.24 04:16:00 -
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Big fat red error message?
I suppose that is possibly a metaphor.
Failing that it looks more like people didnt get the proper idea behind the nex store. That it was the cherry on top and not the delicious sundae. |
Terranid Meester
Tactical Assault and Recon Unit
85
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Posted - 2012.12.24 04:44:00 -
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Its hard to quantify the best however,
Red Moon Rising - allowed me to kill jetcanning isk farmers & generally full of features [bloodlines, loads of new ships etc]
Revelations [both of them] - added boosters, salvaging, rigs, reinvented probing, tier 3 battleships, tier 2 battlecruisers, heat.
Worst
Incarna - the main feature was not ready, not even a glorified beta
Tyrannis - PI, new scorpion model, landmarks and thats about it.
[that wayback link shows the Gallente Federation used to be called the Remanaquie Federation, as a sidenote]. |
Scatim Helicon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1191
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Posted - 2012.12.24 08:41:00 -
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irishFour wrote:I started 3 months after dominion was released. what was soo bad about it. As a new player, when tyranis nerfed the loot table, that killed me. It took a deeply flawed but functioning sov system (based on the number of POSs online in the system), threw the baby out with the bathwater, and instead gave us TCU-based sov with the few nuances of POS warfare (eg stront timing) replaced with a system where only brute force matters and the only way of taking space is alarm clocking in your opponent's chosen timezone to grind structures over and over again. Also, half of the advertised features were dropped shortly before release, titan and supercarriers stats were hilariously overbuffed to the point where their numbers became virtually the only thing that mattered in large scale alliance warfare (with the inevitable arms race to acquire more and more of them which followed), and there appeared to be a barely concealed power struggle within CCP between two of the developers involved in it which left a pretty sour taste in our mouths about the whole thing. Titans were never meant to be "cost effective", its a huge ****.-á- CCP Oveur, 2006
~If you want a picture of the future of WiS, imagine a spaceship, stamping on an avatar's face. Forever. |
Antihrist Pripravnik
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
62
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Posted - 2012.12.24 09:46:00 -
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Best:
Apocrypha (March 10, 2009) - EVE reinvented itself back then. Special thanks goes to whoever wrote the backstory leading to and for Apocrypha. It still is one of the best science fiction pieces that I have read in the last couple of years.
Retribution (December 4, 2012) - A major step in iteration that we all listened about for years. It almost feels like a fresh start, which is a good thing for a 10 years old game.
Worst: Dominion (December 1, 2009) - Lag, black screens, lag, memory leaks, lag... and some more lag. It was almost unplayable. But hey, not all of it was bad - we could at least look at one of the best EVE trailers and wish that one day we can play in fleets again.
Incarna (June 21, 2011) - I thought: That's it. This is as far as EVE will go and its ending right now. The trade hub riots were, at least for me, one last party before the end. Fortunately (and with a lot of sacrifice from CCP's side), that was not the case and we now have an open dialogue with devs and game polishing that was much needed. The problems with this expansion were as much technical as they were economical in nature. A combination of piled up game mechanics and balancing problems, bugs, lack of iteration on features that had great potential (Factional warfare, for example), lag, overpriced NeX store, leaked newsletter about "golden ammo", leaked mail from CCPs management ignoring (at that time) the red flags everywhere, "The doors" that crippled the game and were turning me away from even logging in, GPU overheating problems with CQ which was published when only a quarter of the whole feature was done (Minmatar only). But CCP showed that they are not like other companies that would follow the wrong path until the ship sinks. Nope, they have seen the errors and worked hard on fixing them, which is something I deeply respect. I still think that NeX store has its future and potential to be a valuable addition to the game after critical stuff is done (we are half way there already), just not in the form that was presented with Incarna.
I might add that Red Moon Rising (December 16, 2005) will be always in my heart, because that was the expansion I started with. Until Retribution, I thought that the login screen music of RMR was one of the best (along with "Stellar Shadows" from The Second Genesis). But Retribution's login screen managed to beat RMR. CCP Ytterbium: Yarrblblbgrlblbgrlblblblbblbgrlblblbgrblblyarrrrdrooooooolonthekeyboardlikealunatic |
Himnos Altar
An Errant Venture Beyond The Dark
97
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Posted - 2012.12.24 10:01:00 -
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Antihrist Pripravnik wrote:I might add that Red Moon Rising (December 16, 2005) will be always in my heart, because that was the expansion I started with. Until Retribution, I thought that the login screen music of RMR was one of the best (along with "Stellar Shadows" from The Second Genesis). But Retribution's login screen managed to beat RMR.
Seconded. I actually started just before RMR, but for all intents and purposes I consider myself to have started during RMR. |
Arduemont
Rotten Legion Ops THE ROYAL NAVY
897
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Posted - 2012.12.24 10:15:00 -
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I started playing during Apocrypha and so I never really got to appreciate that expansion to it's fullest.
So for me, the two best have been Crucible, and Retribution.
Incarna flopped really really hard. So that is obviously the worst. For me, it is the worst because of how much potential it had, and how much it actually delivered. Lots of potential, almost 0 content. Don't get me wrong, I love CQ. But most of CQ was actually delivered to us in Crucible, if you really think about it. Followed, for me, by Dominion. Because it's the only expansion I don't really remember, and never really got excited about. "In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." |
Frunje Elbris
Bovine Ltd.
0
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Posted - 2012.12.24 10:26:00 -
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I am more a lurker than actual player, following EVE from 2004, but playing in sum for 3 months only.
Best expansions from my point of view:
- Apocrypha for sheer amount of features which do not feel completely incomplete [T3 cruisers, wormholes and skill queue!]
- Retribution for tiericide :)
Worst expansions:
- Incarna for reasons stated by other posters
- Tyrannis, as really, PI was quite an underwhelming main feature.
- As a guest star: Apocrypha, as I remember quite a lot blogs and speeches by developers talking about technological dept created during Apocrypha sprint [which for example materialized during Dominion as the unbearable lag].
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Anariana
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
40
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Posted - 2012.12.24 10:35:00 -
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best: Revelations and Apocrypha
worst: incarna (WiS) and retribution (because of the AI)
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
5589
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Posted - 2012.12.24 10:36:00 -
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Best: Apocrypha 2nd Best: Revelations
Worst: Incarna 2nd Worst: Dominion
My Christmas wish is that the last 3 years of work CCP have put into refactoring their code, massively improving server & client performance, persecuting botters and the countless minor gameplay improvements will prove a sufficient foundation to support a true & successful expansion of the game, as Apocrypha and Revelations did. MatrixSkye Mk2: "Remember: You consent to unconsensual PVP the moment you press the "Undock" button." |
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Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
177
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Posted - 2012.12.24 11:00:00 -
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Only joined late 2010, so I have not seen that much of the game. Of the five expansions I've seen, Crucible and Retribution were easily the best with Crucible coming out at the head.
Worst was Incarna.
But Incursion is lacking in many ways too. CCP almost completely missed the many chances this expansion offered for both immersive and emergent gameplay. It really is a pity. And it showed, that CCP is somewhat lacking in capabilities to design PvE gameplay and to integrate it with all the rest of EVE.
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Anne-Louise Chasse
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
25
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Posted - 2012.12.24 12:04:00 -
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Mara Pahrdi wrote:Only joined late 2010, so I have not seen that much of the game. Of the five expansions I've seen, Crucible and Retribution were easily the best with Crucible coming out at the head.
Worst was Incarna.
But Incursion is lacking in many ways too. CCP almost completely missed the many chances this expansion offered for both immersive and emergent gameplay. It really is a pity. And it showed, that CCP is somewhat lacking in capabilities to design PvE gameplay and to integrate it with all the rest of EVE.
Incursion, true, but I think it was not CCP guilt. Nullsec killed incursions. I think thy killed avatars too as I don't know one in hisec that wants a FPS for avatars.
Incarna is by far the worst thing they have done because they took our money for years, we did not get anything in return and now they want to wait two years to see that either create the next version of vaporware with avatars.
But a FPS means to redo from scratch avatars because you can not use people dressed in clothes, you have to create people dressed in armor so FPS means actually start over from scratch. The CQ is no good, no good current avatars, everything is useless, so they will not do anything more with avatars, even missing tattoos, or missing clothing. All they have to delete the CQ and avatars and that's it, Incarna never existed!
Just delete a few databases and Incarna be as forgotten as the people who had to lay off. |
Myyona
Ataraxia Pharmacies
24
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Posted - 2012.12.24 12:09:00 -
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Best: Apocrypha and Revelations. Because of the massive improvements they brought to all kind of playing styles and even added a few more.
Worst: Incarna and Tyrannis. For promising the world and delivering little to nothing. CEO - Ataraxia Pharmacies Biography |
Elrich Kouvo
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
73
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Posted - 2012.12.24 12:26:00 -
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Best: Red Moon
Worst: Everything after it |
ElQuirko
Protus Correction Facility Inc.
882
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Posted - 2012.12.24 13:13:00 -
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Going to throw in my 0.02isk despite only being around since Tyrannis.
Best: Crucible - You fixed blasters and buffed rails. I am eternally grateful. Nothing compares to this. Retribution - New bounty system is nice, but tbh all the others have been a bit mediocre.
Worst: Everything else I've seen really. I didn't really hate incarna, I thought it was neat, but it was lacking. Inferno too was a bit boring.
EDIT: Although, now I say that, missile effects... CISPA - Readin' your secret corptheft mails since 2012 |
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
2484
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Posted - 2012.12.24 14:39:00 -
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Soma Khan wrote:surprised not to see tyrannis being mentioned as one of the worst. easily second to incarna
Because Incarna and Dominion make Tyrannis look almost good in comparison.
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BrutalButFair
Fleet of the Damned Happy Endings
39
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Posted - 2012.12.24 15:02:00 -
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only best for me is Apocrypha because it really brought new content and i don't consider retribution as an expansion because it's only an improvement of existing things and 1 new ship which really doesn't contribute much. (Don't get me wrong. The improvement's are top notch but nothing new) So it is the best patch for me ;) But that goes for all ballancing patches i suppose.
I think incarna was even better because it was what ccp always envisioned. An mmo experience on all fronts be it in space (eve) as well on land (dust) or in stations (walking in stations) although incarna seemed pushed and ofcourse the p2w was a bad choice.
Dominion would be the worst because of sov changes which still isn't working.
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lisa 8
KISIN Enterprises
1
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Posted - 2012.12.24 15:12:00 -
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Best Apocrypha Red Moon
Worst: Tyrannis Incarna
Retribution might get into one of the best catergory, if only it had something to offer like Apocrypha & Red Moon did, in terms of true expansions & the sig radius on destroyers was fixed. |
Asuka Solo
Stark Fujikawa Stark Enterprises
1877
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Posted - 2012.12.24 15:19:00 -
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Best expansions: Red Moon Rising (Gimmeh Supers - That is all) Incarna (Space Boobies - Nuff said) Tyrannis (PI !!!!)
Worst expansions: Everything after Incarna (Shelving of WiS, no planet gameplay, no avatar gameplay, no more boobies, empty CQs, 6 years of now empty promises regarding ambulations, rehashed same old FiS crap over and over again... no new Jesus features.. and so on.) Eve is about Capital ships, WiS, Boobs, PI and Isk! |
Arkon Olacar
Imperial Guardians Tribal Band
183
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Posted - 2012.12.24 15:19:00 -
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Best:
Retribution - an actual expansion that has added so much content for non-2003 toons. Crucible - the expansion I (re)started on, tier3 BCs, and it showed CCP had finally removed their heads from their arses.
Worst:
Incarna - I have never seen a games company go so pants-on-head ******** before, it lead to a full biomass of every toon I had. Inferno - it added a new login background. That's pretty much it. "The rest will be in the blog rather than invented at the keyboards of forum posters and bloggers." -á-á-á-á-á-á-á - CCP Sreegs, 23/06/2012
Umad forum warriors? |
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Anne-Louise Chasse
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
25
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Posted - 2012.12.24 17:40:00 -
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Asuka Solo wrote:Best expansions: Red Moon Rising (Gimmeh Supers - That is all) Incarna (Space Boobies - Nuff said) Tyrannis (PI !!!!)
Worst expansions: Everything after Incarna (Shelving of WiS, no planet gameplay, no avatar gameplay, no more boobies, empty CQs, 6 years of now empty promises regarding ambulations, rehashed same old FiS crap over and over again... no new Jesus features.. and so on.)
Really, the new avatars came with Incursion, not Incarna. |
Solstice Project
Carebear Cadaver Productions
2289
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Posted - 2012.12.24 18:08:00 -
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I must say that Incarna was, by far, the best expansion ever for reasons i will tell you.
First of all, it's codename was *my* (real) first name. Second ... it got deployed on *my* birthday ! (talk about coincidences)
Third ... damn ... what i *always* wanted was a revolution to start on my birthday and CCP managed to bring me exactly that ! Maybe not deliberately, but who cares. ^_^
That was some strange day. ^_^ Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire |
Ptraci
3 R Corporation The Irukandji
786
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Posted - 2012.12.24 18:49:00 -
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Best: Exodus, Apocrypha (which the devs have sworn they will never, ever do again. Then they wonder why membership is stagnant)
Worst: Incarna (fried video cards), Trinity (boot.ini anyone?)
But 7 years on, and I still play EVE. I must be a masochist. |
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CCP Goliath
C C P C C P Alliance
1159
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Posted - 2012.12.24 19:40:00 -
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Crucible and Retri for my best (though I think our best is yet to come!)
Incarna and Mists of Pandaria for the other question CCP Goliath | QA Director | EVE Illuminati | @CCP_Goliath |
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Nerath Naaris
Pink Winged Unicorns for Peace Love and Anarchy
232
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Posted - 2012.12.24 20:49:00 -
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I will play the Devils-¦ Advocate here and say the best expansion was Incarna!
It delivered hours and hours of funny entertainment: Not only the forum rage itself (though that provided lots of entertainment as such) but without all the rage-threads, I would never have heard about My Little Pony - or at least not at that time - with all the Pony pics that were posted on the forums
Ah, and that memorable post by a Dev himself that "they are too busy locking the rage-threads to do anything else" or something to this effect... which of course caused another outcry by the community.
Seriously though, I am not long enough in this game to have experienced many expansions, but of those the current one seems best: mostly interesting and new stuff with only a few things that need polishing (sound, I am looking at you!) Forum-unbanned since 2011.10.20. |
Gothikia
Body Count Inc. Pandemic Legion
30
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Posted - 2012.12.24 20:52:00 -
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Well, lets be honest, two of each option isn't enough. Let's make it three!
Best:
Retribution Apocrypha Revelations
Worst:
Exodus Red Moon Rising Dominion <3 Gothie |
naed21
The Dark Space Initiative
10
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Posted - 2012.12.24 21:10:00 -
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The Best Expansion was Apocrypha
Nothing can compare to what that achieved.
NOTHING
(Except a POS revamp) |
masternerdguy
Inner Shadow C.L.O.N.E.
855
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Posted - 2012.12.24 21:53:00 -
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Best
Empyrean Age (yay faction wars) Apocrypha (yay wormholes and strat cruisers)
Worst
Taranis (underwhelming delivery) Incarna (just, lol) Things are only impossible until they are not. |
Brooks Puuntai
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
923
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Posted - 2012.12.24 22:22:00 -
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Notice how Apocrypha is leading in the best choice, hint hint CCP.
Best: Apocrypha Trinity
Worst: Quantum Rise(Though the trailer was cool) Incarna |
MSC Darklord
Loki's Legion
0
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Posted - 2012.12.25 01:54:00 -
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Best 2:
Shiva for the major UI changes, I mean, not having to switch between low slots, mid slots and high slots?
Apocrypha: Content
Worst: Incarna Tyrannis
I'd like to add Retribution as 3rd best, it really brought me back to the game. |
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