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45thtiger 0109
Shadowed Command Black Core Alliance
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Posted - 2012.12.23 22:23:00 -
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Hello EvE Community
For the Veteran players who have played eve since it started which is the Two Best expansions and the two worst expansions.
BTW the devs can have an input into to this Post.
My Best Two are ( drum roll )
Apocrypha Release date: March 10, 2009
Retribution Release date: December 4, 2012
My two worst of all time are
Trinity Release date: December 5, 2007
Dominion Release date: December 1, 2009
Expansions of EvE
CCP congrats for 10 hard years of solid work on these expansions.
CCP to celebrate 10 years of EvE why not put the old expansions on the test servers say for one month at a time and get players to play them again. " Just an Idea "
Or make a video so people can download and see what it was like when eve started up to this current expansion.
And Merry Christmas And a Happy New Year to CCP And the EvE Community
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Winters Chill
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
67
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Posted - 2012.12.23 22:32:00 -
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Best:
Revelations (Rigs & Exploration)
Apocrypha (Simply awesome).
Worst:
Quantum Rise (thanks for that one whole ship CCP)
Incarna (We told you but you didn't listen, people want game with their game, Incarna showed a distinct lack of game and a comical yet aggravating focus on pixel clothes that costed more than their real world counterparts). |
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CCP Falcon
1532

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Posted - 2012.12.23 22:40:00 -
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So I've been playing since a week after release, and my favorites are :
Apocrypha - Release date March 10, 2009
There was just so much good stuff in this release, it's hard to pin down everything I enjoyed. Training queue (omg!), T3, Wormholes... yeah, it's my favorite.
Retribution - Release date: December 4, 2012
Retribution was amazing, and was the first deployment I saw as a Dev rather than as a player. It's unbelievable how many people were staying late at the office, or working their fingers to the bone to make sure that things were polished and set for release. So much goes on behind the scenes, it's unbelievable.
I think my two worst as a player were :
Quantum Rise - Release date November 11, 2008
This was mainly backend stuff and didn't bring a lot of new game play to the table other than a speed overhaul. For me, I would have just called it Empyrean Age 1.1, but I can understand why it was labelled as its own expansion, as the backed stuff that was done was massive, and has really paved the way for providing a larger, more solid foundation to grow EVE on.
Incarna - Release Date June 21, 2011
From a player point of view, a lot of the people I used to fly with labelled this one "Incarnage" - Enough said I think. On a more serious note, even joining the company so long after it, it's plain to see that even though a high price was paid, we learned a lot of very valuable and humbling lessons that have really allowed us to re-organize, push forward, and grow.
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Solhild
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
855
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Posted - 2012.12.23 22:51:00 -
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CCP Falcon wrote: So I've been playing since a week after release, and my favorites are :
Apocrypha - Release date March 10, 2009
There was just so much good stuff in this release, it's hard to pin down everything I enjoyed. Training queue (omg!), T3, Wormholes... yeah, it's my favorite.
Retribution - Release date: December 4, 2012
Retribution was amazing, and was the first deployment I saw as a Dev rather than as a player. It's unbelievable how many people were staying late at the office, or working their fingers to the bone to make sure that things were polished and set for release. So much goes on behind the scenes, it's unbelievable.
I think my two worst as a player were :
Quantum Rise - Release date November 11, 2008
This was mainly backend stuff and didn't bring a lot of new game play to the table other than a speed overhaul. For me, I would have just called it Empyrean Age 1.1, but I can understand why it was labelled as its own expansion, as the backed stuff that was done was massive, and has really paved the way for providing a larger, more solid foundation to grow EVE on.
Incarna - Release Date June 21, 2011
From a player point of view, a lot of the people I used to fly with labelled this one "Incarnage" - Enough said I think. On a more serious note, even joining the company so long after it, it's plain to see that even though a high price was paid, we learned a lot of very valuable and humbling lessons that have really allowed us to re-organize, push forward, and grow.
It's difficult to imagine how anyone could have a viewpoint different to this. Personally, I'm struggling with the 'push forward, and grow' bit as the vision & effort seems directed to areas other than EVE. That Sci-Fi simulator feels further away than ever. |

Velarra
Ghost Festival Naraka.
149
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Posted - 2012.12.23 22:55:00 -
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Best? Apocrypha. Worst? Exodus.
There's some good reading to be had here too:
http://wayback.archive.org/web/*/http://www.eve-online.com |

fukier
RISE of LEGION
311
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Posted - 2012.12.23 22:56:00 -
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Form best were red moon rising and apocrypha...
Worst were dominion and incarna.... At the end of the game both the pawn and the Queen go in the same box. |

Sanandrea
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
8
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Posted - 2012.12.23 22:57:00 -
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Best? Dominion and Apocrypha. Worst? Incursion and Inferno |

Kalen Pavle
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
10
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Posted - 2012.12.23 23:02:00 -
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Favorites:
Red Moon Rising and Cold War are kinda tied here for me. I was in ASCN during the deployment of the first Outpost and that is one of my most memorable ingame experiences. RMR added a lot of new ships to the game and was quite fun at a fundamental level if you ignored the AOE DDs.
Apocrypha was just massive and awesome.
Hateds:
Incarna. I don't think anyone really needs an explanation here.
Quantum Rise should never have been labeled an expansion, even if it was important in the grand scheme of things, it offered very little substance to the players. |

Anne-Louise Chasse
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.12.23 23:05:00 -
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Solhild wrote:CCP Falcon wrote: So I've been playing since a week after release, and my favorites are :
Apocrypha - Release date March 10, 2009
There was just so much good stuff in this release, it's hard to pin down everything I enjoyed. Training queue (omg!), T3, Wormholes... yeah, it's my favorite.
Retribution - Release date: December 4, 2012
Retribution was amazing, and was the first deployment I saw as a Dev rather than as a player. It's unbelievable how many people were staying late at the office, or working their fingers to the bone to make sure that things were polished and set for release. So much goes on behind the scenes, it's unbelievable.
I think my two worst as a player were :
Quantum Rise - Release date November 11, 2008
This was mainly backend stuff and didn't bring a lot of new game play to the table other than a speed overhaul. For me, I would have just called it Empyrean Age 1.1, but I can understand why it was labelled as its own expansion, as the backed stuff that was done was massive, and has really paved the way for providing a larger, more solid foundation to grow EVE on.
Incarna - Release Date June 21, 2011
From a player point of view, a lot of the people I used to fly with labelled this one "Incarnage" - Enough said I think. On a more serious note, even joining the company so long after it, it's plain to see that even though a high price was paid, we learned a lot of very valuable and humbling lessons that have really allowed us to re-organize, push forward, and grow.
It's difficult to imagine how anyone could have a viewpoint different to this. Personally, I'm struggling with the 'push forward, and grow' bit as the vision & effort seems directed to areas other than EVE. That Sci-Fi simulator feels further away than ever.
The worst thing is that they are so busy fixing the little things that embitter a few who have stopped contributing innovations that can attract the not decided to try EVE.
If since 2006 have not been eager to join, polishing things 6 years ago that are broken will not attract anyone new.
And by the way, is that they are so desperate for subscriptions that now even noobs receive offers "Power of 2" just registered. |

Balaen Rorqual
University of Caille Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2012.12.23 23:05:00 -
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Based on my limited kownledge.
Best: Apocrypha Release date: March 10, 2009
Wormholes? Tech 3 ? Easily my favorite expansion ever.
Revelations I Release date: November 29, 2006
Rigs!
Worst:
Incarna Release Date: June 21, 2011
Needs no explanation.
Bloodlines Release date: March 2, 2006
A whimper. |

Scatim Helicon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1179
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Posted - 2012.12.23 23:11:00 -
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I still contend that Dominion will be a great expansion once CCP finish it. Titans were never meant to be "cost effective", its a huge ****.-á- CCP Oveur, 2006
~If you want a picture of the future of WiS, imagine a spaceship, stamping on an avatar's face. Forever. |

NEONOVUS
Saablast Followers
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Posted - 2012.12.23 23:51:00 -
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Inferno and Retribution Retribution and Inferno
My youngness shows.
What was so bad about Incarna? |

Velarra
Ghost Festival Naraka.
151
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Posted - 2012.12.24 00:03:00 -
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NEONOVUS wrote:What was so bad about Incarna?
I think the following post probably covers it best:
http://blog.beyondreality.se/NeXCQResponse |

Djana Libra
The Black Ops Black Core Alliance
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Posted - 2012.12.24 00:16:00 -
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Good: Trinity (awsome graphics update) and Apocrypha (yeah self explaining i'd say) Worst: Dominion (will it ever be finished? Remember the phrase pre-dominion lag levels?) and Incarna (we did get a fancy door i'll admit) |

Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor Cosmic Consortium
2295
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Posted - 2012.12.24 00:23:00 -
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The main issue that irked in Incarna was how the Noble Exchange bypassed the player economy (the items spring into existence and are never destroyed), with a secondary quibble being the ubiquity of this luxury goods store: http://mararinn.blogspot.com.au/2011/11/aside-micro-transactions-and-nex.html
There are people who were concerned about NeX being the thin edge of the "Pay to Win" edge, I'm not too concerned about that as long as there is no concept of "soulbound" in EVE. Things should be tradable in some way or another. Day 0 advice for new players: Day 0 Advice for New Players |

Christopher AET
Segmentum Solar Nulli Legio
297
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Posted - 2012.12.24 00:50:00 -
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Best for me. Crucible for the tier 3 battlecruisers alone. Apocrypha even though it's the expansion I joined on. Worst would be incarna . Not so much the expansion itself which was overwhelming but more the lack of communication from CCP. Also I did not much care for Dominion on releAse as I was stroll in hi sec days it affected me little. I drain ducks of their moisture for sustenance. |

Joran Jackson
The Red Circle Inc.
37
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Posted - 2012.12.24 00:56:00 -
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I don't know if people recognized Apocrypha as being the best when it was released (I wasn't playing then) but I bet it took awhile before it got universally recognized as CCP's greatest Eve achievement.
I think Retribution will be like that. There's a lot of people who like it, but it will be recognized as revolutionary by the majority of the player base when all is said and done.
Edit: Two worst Incarna and Quantum Rise |

Altrue
Exploration Frontier inc
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Posted - 2012.12.24 00:58:00 -
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As a Naga user un wormholes, I have at least one reason to think of Apocrypha and Crucible as the two best expansions.
But even before crucible, wormhole life was already awesome ! Thanks to the guy who got the idea of Apocrypha. Looking forward to WiS expansion (and also the POS rewamp) now.
Edit : Oh and Incarna as worst of course..... After years and years of research around ice mining, they finally found how to make snowballs again :D |

Hikaru Kuroda
Shimai of New Eden
78
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Posted - 2012.12.24 01:18:00 -
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Best: Apocrypha, followed by Retribution Worst: the broken promise of Walk in Stations, followed by Incarna. |

Marlona Sky
D00M. Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2012.12.24 01:25:00 -
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Best:
Apocrypha Retribution
Worst:
Dominion Dominion
(yes Dominion was that bad)
Remove local, structure mails and revamp the directional scanner! |

irishFour
Mobile Meth Lab Monkeys
26
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Posted - 2012.12.24 01:52:00 -
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I started 3 months after dominion was released. what was soo bad about it. As a new player, when tyranis nerfed the loot table, that killed me.
If apocrypha introduced wh, t3, sleeper ai. How can that level of new content be labeled an expansion, and everything since also be labeled an expansion. We should demand that level of new content with every expansion. It shouldnt be a once every 10 years. I like to have my cake and eat it too |

Zaknussem
Everybody Loves Donuts
6
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Posted - 2012.12.24 01:54:00 -
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I started playing just before Revelations II, so I can't possibly comment on the game before that. As far as expansions go, Revelations II wasn't that hot, the Rorqual was added... and that was mostly it. :-/
But in my opinion, the best expansions were Trinity and Apocrypha. Trinity (or Revelations III as it was known earlier) added the "next generation" of graphics and some other stuff. I was new to EvE then, so this expansion had a lot of "ooh, shiny!" and wow-factor for me.
Apocrypha added a lot of new content, W-Space and T3 being the biggest things there. It really made EvE look promising for the future... but then reality dropped by.
The two worst expansions were Dominion (which followed Apocrypha) and Incarna. Why these two are the worst has been explained in detail in the thread, and I agree with all of it. I'd also like to mention Empyrean Age as a huge letdown: It introduced Factional Warfare, and then left it unattended for 4 YEARS. :-(
But I feel that I have to comment on Quantum Rise. It actually did a LOT of good things for EvE, not just the Orca. You see, it suffered from two things that makes it look bad in hindsight: It was the first expansion that was deployed in segments, meaning that some features were added before the main deployment and up to the main deployment. People playing in the month leading up to QR noticed that the lag all but disappeared (only to be reintroduced a year later with Dominion). The second factor was CCP doing a publicity stunt and making Apocrypha (the next expansion) being as shiny as possible... even if that meant delaying parts of QR so that they could be considered part of Apocrypha.
And let's not forget the promises made with QR that were never kept. QR was supposed to be the "industrialist's expansion", which loads of new features, upgrades and stuff. What did they get? The Orca. Nothing more. Those promises have STILL not been kept. |

Johan Civire
Dirty Curse inc.
461
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Posted - 2012.12.24 01:58:00 -
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the best 2 are
Revelations II the epic intro music this was the expand that let me feel like god
and
Retribution This is the best so far
worst
Dominion < but the trailer give me ghostbumbs one of the best trailler the ever made.
Inferno
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
2464
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Posted - 2012.12.24 02:20:00 -
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This is easy:
best = Apocrypha (others were quite nice too)
worst= Dominion (all out pure garbage).
Incarna? It's not a real expansion. It was a pre-pre alpha technology demonstration, that is totally pointless in a production software. The pay 2 win nudging shop was also fail. Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
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Soma Khan
State War Academy Caldari State
19
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Posted - 2012.12.24 02:25:00 -
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surprised not to see tyrannis being mentioned as one of the worst. easily second to incarna |

Joran Jackson
The Red Circle Inc.
38
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Posted - 2012.12.24 02:56:00 -
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Johan Civire wrote:
Dominion < but the trailer give me ghostbumbs one of the best trailler the ever made.
It's worth noting the trailer because it was indeed quite epic, in contrast to the actual content. |

Soma Khan
State War Academy Caldari State
21
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Posted - 2012.12.24 03:09:00 -
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Joran Jackson wrote:Johan Civire wrote:
Dominion < but the trailer give me ghostbumbs one of the best trailler the ever made.
It's worth noting the trailer because it was indeed quite epic, in contrast to the actual content. with all that dominion still provided for orders of magnitude more sandbox gameplay than tyrannis and incarna combined |

Keen Fallsword
Skyway Patrol
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Posted - 2012.12.24 03:37:00 -
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I wonder.. What happened inside ccp after apocrypha ? Why they were able so good job and after that it wasn't soo cool ? They growth up too much ?? Too much corpo corpo corporation stuff ? Interesting |

fukier
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2012.12.24 03:48:00 -
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Keen Fallsword wrote:I wonder.. What happened inside ccp after apocrypha ? Why they were able so good job and after that it wasn't soo cool ? They growth up too much ?? Too much corpo corpo corporation stuff ? Interesting
new tech and 18 months killed the hype for me... still waiting to get excited enough to reactivate my alts... At the end of the game both the pawn and the Queen go in the same box. |

ITTigerClawIK
Galactic Rangers Intrepid Crossing
157
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Posted - 2012.12.24 03:55:00 -
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thought id actually put why i have selected said expansions as my choices.
Best:
Apocrapha: a true full expansion added what is pretty much an entirely new universe and experience for what i believe to be the only true form of exploration in any existing MMO as well as the new T3 cruisers which i believe are an excellent first step towards the future of ships in EVE.
Retribution: mainly for the long overdue T1 ship overhaul but also the overhaul of the bounty system and the initial improvments to the UI , this is a great leap foward.
Worst:
Incarna: a long awaited feature for years and also been shown demos of actually walking around on the promanade as well as an initial demo vid many many years ago showing offices and character interaction reduced down to a single room, also the sneaky introduction to overpriced vanity items costing more than most pay to win items from other MMO's , simply awfull and i pray every day that there will be no repeat to this.
Tyranis: somewhat like incarna, long awaited sim city like interaction on planets ruleing over your own citys and industrys on the hopes to ruleing over your slave population or busltling metropolis and having interaction between different regions on planets and other peoples planetary colonys reduced to pins dots and lines, for gods sake PLEASE finish this expansion. |
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