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Pohbis
133
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Posted - 2012.12.25 22:58:00 -
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Why, right now?
Because the casual EVE players are busy celebrating the holidays, and not posting casual topics.
While the foreveralone bittervets are even more bored in EVE and post even more trolls during the holidays.
Expect the "hate" to return to normal within a week or two. |

Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
37
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Posted - 2012.12.25 23:06:00 -
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Pohbis wrote:Why, right now?
Because the casual EVE players are busy celebrating the holidays, and not posting casual topics.
While the foreveralone bittervets are even more bored in EVE and post even more trolls during the holidays.
Expect the "hate" to return to normal within a week or two.
They feel lonely. They need some love and attention, that's why they endlessly post the same crap: nerf high sec/buff low
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James Amril-Kesh
RAZOR Alliance
1599
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Posted - 2012.12.25 23:09:00 -
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Oh look, another clueless forum poster who thinks tech is an isk faucet and that it's some golden pot we can dip our hands into whenever we want our own personal titans to play around with. -áObjects in mirror aren't as red as they appear. |

Elrich Kouvo
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
84
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Posted - 2012.12.25 23:28:00 -
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Eternal Error wrote:People aren't hating on highsec--they are commenting on a serious and legitimate problem. Risk/reward is out of whack and highsec continues to be made safer. Risk v. Reward is half baked marketing jargon. |

James Amril-Kesh
RAZOR Alliance
1602
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Posted - 2012.12.25 23:45:00 -
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Elrich Kouvo wrote:Eternal Error wrote:People aren't hating on highsec--they are commenting on a serious and legitimate problem. Risk/reward is out of whack and highsec continues to be made safer. Risk v. Reward is half baked marketing jargon. OH OKAY, EVERYTHING'S FINE THEN FORGET I SAID ANYTHING -áObjects in mirror aren't as red as they appear. |

Zaraz Zaraz
Imperial Planetology Academy
45
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Posted - 2012.12.25 23:47:00 -
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Its because a lot of people who play this game are sadists and there aren't enough masochists to provide them with entertainment.
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2063
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Posted - 2012.12.26 00:10:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Elrich Kouvo wrote:Eternal Error wrote:People aren't hating on highsec--they are commenting on a serious and legitimate problem. Risk/reward is out of whack and highsec continues to be made safer. Risk v. Reward is half baked marketing jargon. OH OKAY, EVERYTHING'S FINE THEN FORGET I SAID ANYTHING Yeah, it's fine, balance is for marketing, highsec is for reality. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
10808
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Posted - 2012.12.26 00:15:00 -
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Eraza wrote:i'm going to have to say it's jealousy How can you be jealous of something you already have?
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan. |

Scatim Helicon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1201
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Posted - 2012.12.26 00:19:00 -
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Sorry, all our future opinions on the topic of highsec are bypassing the forums and going directly to CCP via our nullsec-dominated CSM. Titans were never meant to be "cost effective", its a huge ****.-á- CCP Oveur, 2006
~If you want a picture of the future of WiS, imagine a spaceship, stamping on an avatar's face. Forever. |

Randolph Rothstein
whatever corp.
126
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Posted - 2012.12.26 00:20:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Eraza wrote:i'm going to have to say it's jealousy How can you be jealous of something you already have?
you are jealous others have it...you want it for yourself only...like girlfriend or pizza |

Rusty Waynne
Eve Defence Force Fatal Ascension
3
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Posted - 2012.12.26 01:33:00 -
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Blame CCP for making bad decisions. *cough SANCTUM NERF cough*
Stupid stuff like that doesn't solve anything. |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
10809
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Posted - 2012.12.26 01:37:00 -
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Scatim Helicon wrote:Sorry, all our future opinions on the topic of highsec are bypassing the forums and going directly to CCP via our nullsec-dominated CSM. How does that in any way affect the question at hand? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan. |

Luanda Heartbreaker
FREE GATES HUN Reloaded
1
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Posted - 2012.12.26 01:51:00 -
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they are angry 'cos highsec players arent live in a goon like alliances shadow and dont have to lick asses to keep their territories. thats it :) |

James Amril-Kesh
RAZOR Alliance
1616
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Posted - 2012.12.26 02:31:00 -
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Luanda Heartbreaker wrote:they are angry 'cos highsec players arent live in a goon like alliances shadow and dont have to lick asses to keep their territories. thats it :) wat -áObjects in mirror aren't as red as they appear. |

Just Lilly
55
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Posted - 2012.12.26 03:31:00 -
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Highsec got easy access to Trade hubs...
Thats about it Powered by Nvidia GTX 690 |

Lugia3
Dromedaworks inc Tribal Band
171
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Posted - 2012.12.26 03:31:00 -
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I hate it because of all those carebears! Give drones some love: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2176396&#post2176396 |

Luanda Heartbreaker
FREE GATES HUN Reloaded
3
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Posted - 2012.12.26 03:33:00 -
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Lugia3 wrote:I hate it because of all those carebears! 
why they hurt you? |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2065
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Posted - 2012.12.26 04:15:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Luanda Heartbreaker wrote:they are angry 'cos highsec players arent live in a goon like alliances shadow and dont have to lick asses to keep their territories. thats it :) wat Licking asses? Please tell me more... Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |

Cat Troll
Systems Federation Coalition of Galactic Unity
71
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Posted - 2012.12.26 12:42:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Luanda Heartbreaker wrote:they are angry 'cos highsec players arent live in a goon like alliances shadow and dont have to lick asses to keep their territories. thats it :) wat Licking asses? Please tell me more... Wouldn't you know already? Lolwut: "Yes, you kids don't know how lucky you have it. These days noobs get given free tackle ships for PvP but back in the old days the only tackle ships we were given were our pods. We had to use them to bump their rookie ships out of alignment to stop them warping off." |

Rain6637
Team Evil
135
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Posted - 2012.12.26 12:44:00 -
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when I'm at Hooters I always ask for my salad 'tossed' http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Buckingham Buckingham is my Vanilla Sky |

Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
1861
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Posted - 2012.12.26 12:53:00 -
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Just Lilly wrote:Highsec got easy access to Trade hubs...
Thats about it
Yea... Jita... Lucky Hiseccers... |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2129
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Posted - 2012.12.26 17:22:00 -
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Cat Troll wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Luanda Heartbreaker wrote:they are angry 'cos highsec players arent live in a goon like alliances shadow and dont have to lick asses to keep their territories. thats it :) wat Licking asses? Please tell me more... Wouldn't you know already? Not really, we tend to help our friends, except that recently people discovered this and don't try since they'll just get blobbed when we come along. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |

Cat Troll
Systems Federation Coalition of Galactic Unity
93
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Posted - 2012.12.26 17:27:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Cat Troll wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Luanda Heartbreaker wrote:they are angry 'cos highsec players arent live in a goon like alliances shadow and dont have to lick asses to keep their territories. thats it :) wat Licking asses? Please tell me more... Wouldn't you know already? Not really, we tend to help our friends, except that recently people discovered this and don't try since they'll just get blobbed when we come along. I meant literally.  Lolwut: "Yes, you kids don't know how lucky you have it. These days noobs get given free tackle ships for PvP but back in the old days the only tackle ships we were given were our pods. We had to use them to bump their rookie ships out of alignment to stop them warping off." |

Frostys Virpio
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
125
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Posted - 2012.12.26 17:47:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Cat Troll wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Luanda Heartbreaker wrote:they are angry 'cos highsec players arent live in a goon like alliances shadow and dont have to lick asses to keep their territories. thats it :) wat Licking asses? Please tell me more... Wouldn't you know already? Not really, we tend to help our friends, except that recently people discovered this and don't try since they'll just get blobbed when we come along.
Friends are OP. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2129
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Posted - 2012.12.26 18:01:00 -
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Frostys Virpio wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Not really, we tend to help our friends, except that recently people discovered this and don't try since they'll just get blobbed when we come along. Friends are OP. That's we have have tons of friends. A blob of friends, even. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |

Frostys Virpio
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
125
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Posted - 2012.12.26 18:10:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Frostys Virpio wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Not really, we tend to help our friends, except that recently people discovered this and don't try since they'll just get blobbed when we come along. Friends are OP. That's we have have tons of friends. A blob of friends, even.
You guys are using the game mecanics to your advantage. HOW COULD YOU???!?!?!?!?
"Quantity is a quality of it's own". Yeah you are unsig that too. Damn you!
Whats next, you'll use a strong economy to fund your campaign? Noone ever went THAT low. You can't do that now can you? |

NightmareX
Rebirth. THE GOD SQUAD
84
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Posted - 2012.12.26 19:37:00 -
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Alright, i think it's time to explain this once and for all. So this post will be a bit long.
I can start by saying that i have done pretty much everything in EVE since i started back in 2004. I have been a miner, mission runner, npc'er, pirate and done PVP in high / low and 0.0 space and so on.
I recently came from a corp (Mind Games.) that is a low sec / 0.0 space corp. We was roaming alot in both low sec and 0.0 space and got into many fights there. Mind Games. and the alliance Suddenly Spaceships are an alliance who are mainly living in low sec, but are running fleets into 0.0 space to have fun, not to take space or shoot stations and that ****. They also runs alot of fleets in low sec, witch is pretty nice.
This type of PVP as Suddenly Spaceships and even Rooks and Kings do is the only thing i like about low sec and 0.0 space PVP. When it comes to the big alliances who fights in massive blobs is the most boring part of PVP in EVE. I agree it's pretty thrilling the first month or two by doing this type of PVP, but after that it's just dull (my own opinion).
Here you can see a pretty nice fight Suddenly Spaceships had before i joined them. This video is only 8 mins and 44 seconds long. Now, you can see the whole fight from the start to the end here. It's almost 1 hour and 5 minutes long.
And i also like this type of PVP as you can see here.
And it's not a secret either that most of the PVP in 0.0 space are done by the big massive alliances. And that makes the 0.0 space PVP experience in general pretty boring.
I'm not saying every fights there are boring, but most are.
Now, lets talk about empire. I will only talk in the perspective of PVP in empire since that's what i'm doing right now.
Alot of the 0.0 space players are always saying meeeeeehhhhh, PVP in empire (high-sec) is all about ganking miners and newbs. I'm saying that's a pretty ******** statement. Because those who says that have clearly not been in a PVP corp in high sec that actually have good PVP fights.
Now i will talk about Rebirth. I was in Rebirth some months ago where i made a movie that shows what we was doing. We was doing most of our PVP in high sec, but had some few fights in low sec to. You can see some of that in my Rebirth 4 movie here.
My movie only shows a little part of allof the fights we have had in Rebirth earlier. You can see more of our fights here, here, here and here
As you can see, we get ALOT of crazy fights in high sec. And why do you think we get that?
Yes, that's because we actually use alot of time to search after corps and war dec those that WILL fight back. Ofc, if we get contracted to kill a mining corp, we will most likely do that. But that's not PVP that will come out in a movie.
In 0.0 space you only have to join a fleet to get PVP. But in high sec, you have to do some research on corps before you can get good fights. But the thing is that you get rewarded back pretty good by doing so in empire. And you will actually have tons of fun by doing PVP in high sec.
Those who claims high sec is boring by doing PVP there are likely some gankers who have been in a ****** PVP corp that only ganks newbs and miners. That's not really PVP. That's more called boring life.
Now i will also talk about some things that alot of those 0.0 space peoples also are whining about. And that is station games and logistics.
Let's begin with station games. Most of the fights in high sec, low sec and 0.0 space are happening at the stations or gates. So i don't see the problem that fights in high sec are at stations then.
Now to logistics. I think it's pretty funny that the 0.0 space players are whining about the logistics being used in high sec when most of the 0.0 space today contains with carriers (that can be used as a logistic) and tons of other capital ships. What's the difference on using a logistics than blobbing the hell out of someone with carriers?
I'm afraid there isn't any differences. The only differences is that a carrier can be used as a hauler and it have much more higher chance to survive than a tiny little Guardian just to take an example.
So is there anyone who actually can explain in details why 0.0 space is any difference than high sec when it comes to station games and logistics?
I'm afraid you wont have an explaination for that, because i think i just told the truth about it here already.
Oh also. Someone please explain to me why someone says that the real PVPers are in 0.0 space?
Anyone wanna prove me wrong? My current EVE videos.
Rebirth 4: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=131123
Bringers of Hatred: http://tinyurl.com/BOHINFOD |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2130
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Posted - 2012.12.26 19:43:00 -
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Frostys Virpio wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Frostys Virpio wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Not really, we tend to help our friends, except that recently people discovered this and don't try since they'll just get blobbed when we come along. Friends are OP. That's we have have tons of friends. A blob of friends, even. You guys are using the game mecanics to your advantage. HOW COULD YOU???!?!?!?!? "Quantity is a quality of it's own". Yeah you are unsig that too. Damn you! Whats next, you'll use a strong economy to fund your campaign? Noone ever went THAT low. You can't do that now can you? Nerf tech more. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |

Tarvos Telesto
Blood Fanatics
556
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Posted - 2012.12.26 21:35:00 -
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Why all the hate of highsec?
Because some people who play EvE for years lose sense of being here and enjoying EvE like it is, most of them spent more time on whining and forum than in game.
To OP, stop paying attention on them, they not worth a single quote, they steal your vauable time, all what they can is being emos and cry about other players, im my opinion they dont belong to true EvE community, meta forum gaming, nothing more. EvE isn't game, its style of living. |

Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
259
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Posted - 2012.12.26 22:46:00 -
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My problem with highsec is the smell, carebears stink. If you want instant gratification, go stimulate your genitals. EvE is Hard, deal with it. |
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