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Posted - 2012.12.29 08:40:00 -
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FeralShadow wrote:Make it cost 50mil to start a new corp. No timers, no nothin. it costs 50mil to dec them, so the 50mil will mean that the corp dissolver is losing as much as the war deccer is.
Problem solved.
Because 50m is significant somehow right?
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Posted - 2012.12.29 20:26:00 -
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Michael Harari wrote:The point is that its the same cost as wardecing them.
I understand his point, the man wants his legal space jihad against whoever he feels like deccing, and if they ditch the corp they are out just as much isk as he is. Given WarDecs past history as a tool for taking the **** out of harmless mission runners, mining corps, and many industrials on station undocks, I think the balance of 2m to join the corp, 50m to dec it whenever you feel the need is currently intact.
This thread is essentially a whine about someone who dec'd a corp who folded their corp, and started another one. My point however was, as long as the cost to create a corp is less than the cost of the ships members of the dec'd corp fly, corps will continue to fold regardless of price. Regardless, 50m isk is a trivial sum anyway you look at it- even if they raise the cost of forming corps, how will you force people to log in under a wardec once their corp is dec'd and the price to roll a new corp is so unequivocally high they don't want to pay it?
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Posted - 2012.12.31 21:20:00 -
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FeralShadow wrote:Edit: Looking for a "plausible reason" for spending 50mil creating a corporation is fallacy. You can come up with numerous reasons why 50mil is too much, or why 50mil isn't enough.
Look- not all players are PvP-centric, some people (much to my abhorrence) actually like mining and shooting little red boxes. Just because you paid some trivial fee to war dec a corporation at your leisure doesn't mean you should trap them into a war, or force them to play.
The can not log in for a week, and sit you out; or they can move half the world away in some little Hi-Sec island surrounded by Low-Sec. Either way, demanding you get PvP for 50m is pretty laughable request. Do you also think that if you wardec a corp that doesn't generate any kills that you should get a refund? I mean you did pay a whole fifty million isk for the war, right?
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Posted - 2013.01.01 05:53:00 -
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FeralShadow wrote:Yes, clearly not everybody is pvp-centric. That is a choice that each of us make when we play this game, and every choice, even those, have consequences. Not being able to defend yourself in a meaningful way is a consequence. I'm simply saying that a 50mil isk war dec fee and 50mil isk corp formation fee balances it out for both sides. You want to remake? Fine. Go ahead. Each of you can make the other poor through 50mil isk fees, or figure out a way to fix it without running to the mechanics for the answer.
You know, in this game that involves other players, you can't always play your way. I can't always play mine, either.
Your paying extra money to essentially get to kill the life out of any corporation you choose, whenever you choose to do so. That's why it's not more expensive, and it won't be.
You sure are posting a whole lot about potentially 48m ISK, if you spent half the time posting belt ratting, mission running, or FW Plexing I doubt that this would be an issue. You dec'd someone and you didn't get to kill anything? Abloo bloo bloo.
Get over it.
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Posted - 2013.01.03 20:43:00 -
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ITT Space-Nobody complains that corps folding after being wardec'd isn't fair, because he loses 48m; Is space rich.
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Posted - 2013.01.04 00:13:00 -
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Theron Dashto wrote:Sun Tzu said it best in The Art of War:
The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting.
This thread is officially going places, someone quoted Sun Tzu... because that is not only edgy and cool, it simply illustrates you as seething with relevance and game knowledge.
That was sarcasm.
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Posted - 2013.01.04 01:56:00 -
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Theron Dashto wrote:Thank you for your contribution to this thread. You were on point, concise, and most importantly, offered a well thought out response that was both original and insightful.
Tell me all about how that made you feel, did you practice that post in the mirror before you made it?
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