thats p ******* ugly bro

See me and take notes on how to make a cute character, you failure!

http://images.starpulse.com/news/bloggers/10/blog_images/pete-burns-1.jpg

Real smiles come from the eyes.

http://images.starpulse.com/news/bloggers/10/blog_images/pete-burns-1.jpg

Why did you have to post that?

Actually, the OP looks a bit like Cher, but only a bit, and it's not that bad. People tend to exaggerate here.

Just give the neck a little more thickness or tone down on the lips. Either will improve it, but not both. Add some body to the face with a cheek pull, and maybe lower the cheekbones a little if you decide to go with the thicker neck rather than the thinner lips. Draw left/right on the top and bottom lips to change their pout. It's a bit much as it is, and you can pull down on the top or up on the bottom to reduce their shape a bit, or from side perspective, push them in or out individually.

Just mould and sculpt.

edit: also pull the brow down above the nose a little to lose the puppy look, and maybe push the sides of the brow out to increase depth. The bottom lip is too big and out of proportion to the top, the nose is fine but I notice it has an arch to it, and it could use a little meat on the end. Far to pointy and incongruous as it is.

Hope that helps.

Thanks for the tip!

Do you have any tricks for making prettier faces? I know something feels off but I just can't figure out what it is exactly

Why did you have to post that?

Actually, the OP looks a bit like Cher, but only a bit, and it's not that bad. People tend to exaggerate here.

Just give the neck a little more thickness or tone down on the lips. Either will improve it, but not both. Add some body to the face with a cheek pull, and maybe lower the cheekbones a little if you decide to go with the thicker neck rather than the thinner lips. Draw left/right on the top and bottom lips to change their pout. It's a bit much as it is, and you can pull down on the top or up on the bottom to reduce their shape a bit, or from side perspective, push them in or out individually.

Just mould and sculpt.

edit: also pull the brow down above the nose a little to lose the puppy look, and maybe push the sides of the brow out to increase depth. The bottom lip is too big and out of proportion to the top, the nose is fine but I notice it has an arch to it, and it could use a little meat on the end. Far to pointy and incongruous as it is.

Hope that helps.

Make it asian it always work :)

I could help!

One more thing. uman hair, even in old people, don't just have only one color. In dark haired people, you can find different hues and shades. SO I really recommend going two toned in the hairs.

thanks for the tips!!
http://i1305.photobucket.com/albums/s559/pryox/20121227035724_zpsaa4ec94c.jpg
okay so i tried to follow your directions, and i think it helps! How is this now?



Sorry I don't really like the asian look. Nothing racist, i'm serious!

-- Jesus Garcia-Lopez

Cuter. Now you just need to widen the chin a bit, bring that brow down in the middle or lift it outside, grab and pull the nostrils out just a bit and maybe add a little thickness to the neck, but not much.

'Cute' is going to be difficult to agree on, since everyone has a different set of features they prefer. I do a lot of professional character art and have some suggestions... but please feel free to ignore them all :)

- Firstly, she looks distinctly worried. You need to made sure the inside points on the eyebrows aren't the highest point. Bring down and seperate the inner portions of the eyebrow.

- Second, move the eyebrwos apart a little. You can actually see the worry-wrinkles in her brow - that's not very appealing (imo).

- Next, her nasal bridge is too strong - a characteristic that usually comes with age. If you soften the bridge some, she'll look younger and stereotypically 'cuter'.

- The tip of her nose seems a bit low, another characteristic that appears with age. If you raise the tip up a little, she'll look younger.

- Have her engage the viewer by looking at us, as opposed to looking at some off-camera interest. It's more interesting and engaging if she's looking at us, as if the viewer is the most interesting subject at the moment. It's all about subtle.

- Her teeth are not attractive. I'd recommend closing her mouth a bit more.

- If possible, I'd recommend getting rid of the lines between her cheeks and mouth. They imply more worry/age.

Just a few ideas. Good luck! :)

'Cute' is going to be difficult to agree on, since everyone has a different set of features they prefer. I do a lot of professional character art and have some suggestions... but please feel free to ignore them all :)

- Firstly, she looks distinctly worried. You need to made sure the inside points on the eyebrows aren't the highest point. Bring down and seperate the inner portions of the eyebrow.

- Second, move the eyebrwos apart a little. You can actually see the worry-wrinkles in her brow - that's not very appealing (imo).

- Next, her nasal bridge is too strong - a characteristic that usually comes with age. If you soften the bridge some, she'll look younger and stereotypically 'cuter'.

- The tip of her nose seems a bit low, another characteristic that appears with age. If you raise the tip up a little, she'll look younger.

- Have her engage the viewer by looking at us, as opposed to looking at some off-camera interest. It's more interesting and engaging if she's looking at us, as if the viewer is the most interesting subject at the moment. It's all about subtle.

- Her teeth are not attractive. I'd recommend closing her mouth a bit more.

- If possible, I'd recommend getting rid of the lines between her cheeks and mouth. They imply more worry/age.

Just a few ideas. Good luck! :)

jesus christ i almost puked.

http://i1305.photobucket.com/albums/s559/pryox/20121227053052_zpsd806a05b.jpg

Alright, Ive made some major alterations this time! Help me out guys!

-- Jesus Garcia-Lopez

That's a whole lot better than the original, you've got a pretty good all knowing smirk going on there to.

I could help!

First step, you need to make softer features. women don't have much testosterone. So, we have smaller and finer features. Secondly, I know how guys are about boobs and butts, but try to be realistic about body proportions (don't go FFF but go for some lift and separate).

Secondly, know that your complexion should determine your make up color. If she's going to be fair skin uses a lighter touch than a darker skinned character. Also, our eye color determines a lot about the eye shadow, which in turn determines blush. If it's hazel, brown, or green, go with an earth color. If her eyes are blue, go with pinks and blues.

Also pick good hair colors. See how mine has contrasting high lights with the natural character? Try going as natural as possible (i.e. avoid pink and blue hairs).

Finally, the portrait. Pick a color scheme. I've gone very black and white. Ask a photographer how to make a good picture. I took a class and understood aspects of lighting and positioning. So, I had a little advantage.

http://i1305.photobucket.com/albums/s559/pryox/20121227053052_zpsd806a05b.jpg

Alright, Ive made some major alterations this time! Help me out guys!

-- Jesus Garcia-Lopez

That's a whole lot better than the original, you've got a pretty good all knowing smirk going on there to.

Narrow that chin down a bit and you've got it I think For all the work you've put in on this, I'd say you deserve to finish up and call it good.

..not to say there's anything wrong with a woman with a strong jaw; just that these aren't often so much strong as exagerated protuberances. Depends on the subtype really.

Awesome!!!!!!
Okay i did that:
http://i1305.photobucket.com/albums/s559/pryox/20121227071826_zpsf2774817.jpg

I can probably play around whit the pose later as long as the face shape is okay right? hehehehehe

--Jesus Garcia-Lopez

Here's a tip, squint your eyes so the sculpt is blurry then mould the shapes until it looks "right". Tis' what you do in real sculpting/painting. Which race/bloodline is she ? I wanna play around and see if i can make a pretty girl :P

Here's a tip, squint your eyes so the sculpt is blurry then mould the shapes until it looks "right". Tis' what you do in real sculpting/painting. Which race/bloodline is she ? I wanna play around and see if i can make a pretty girl :P

Am I cute?

for example: after facial construction, there's the color composition of the avatar picture, and the average player won't know why the face doesn't have the same effect in the picture. there's also make up, and yeah, color theory

to quote my roommate, upon creating his female character: "welp, that's as good as THAT's going to get!"

you are gorgeous btw

Just look at my sexy avatar

Awesome!!!!!!
Okay i did that:
http://i1305.photobucket.com/albums/s559/pryox/20121227071826_zpsf2774817.jpg

I can probably play around whit the pose later as long as the face shape is okay right? hehehehehe

--Jesus Garcia-Lopez

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your char is looking like Vala Mal Doran, see ->
http://www.unificationfrance.com/IMG/jpg/Dresden_files_claudia_black_1.jpg
http://www.euderion.de/Materialien/Charactere%20SG1/Claudia%20Black%20-%20Vala/vala_1024.jpg

if you like to try somthing cute, try to copy Adria ->
http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111207132457/stargate/images/3/3b/Adria_Ark_of_Truth.jpg

or Andromeda ->
http://gatecast.co.uk/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/LexaDoig.jpg

but the best way is, not to listen to others and creating your OWN char... whatever he might look like, its yours!

Here's Gal/Gal but I don't know...I always liked intaki girls a lot more. Ex. Gal/Intaki

or Gal/Gal but with a space pixie look

IMO, short hair models look better tbh but thats like...my opinion.

Here's an idea.

Spam the random button until you have the face you want. Then tweak the body, then tweak the clothes.

That's what I did for most of my characters and I'm fine with it.

Small nose. Small mouth. Big eyes. Round face, not angular. [NOT Gollum-style] That's the hallmark of a baby's face, which we are genetically programmed to think as being cute. Symmetrical faces are also more attractive than asymmetrical faces.

Makeup shouldn't be one colour, and should be sparingly applied [NOT Tammy Faye-style]. Accentuate facial features (especially eyes and lips), or soften / hide them, using makeup.

Look to others for examples (these are not mine):
https://image.eveonline.com/Character/1100933456_512.jpg Death Cell
https://image.eveonline.com/Character/90342909_512.jpg Toxaris Cabrito

Play with poses and lighting too. Often that can help accentuate or hide features.

only thing that makes you cute is a moustache

you too ladies

There was entertainer profession in StarWars: Galaxies - players could re-sculpt other players including height, face, hairs, skin tone.

Could be nice to have something like that in EVE - I'd be a trillionaire soon with my sculpting skills.

Right now "random" button is your best bet.

Smaller or lighter coloured eye brows.
Larger pupil or darker blue.
Reduce or remove the smirk.
Lighten the eye makeup colour a notch.

If you care this much about char design I suggest you play with the char creator for a whole day or more trying out all the things. Then get an idea of how you want your char to look like and then spend as long as you need to create it.

there are so many ways to go wrong, while there are so many simple rules to follow and know what to exaggerate or minimize...

It's not going to happen by chance. learning how to do it once means learning how to do it properly. expecting to figure all that out is a littttle arrogant.

and describing how to tweak the face in text is futile.

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I think I should make day 0 characters and sell them just for their looks lol

Everyone could argue what 'cute' looks like. But the fact is that certain kind of elements in female's face (and why not male's as well) make it more attractive. The key is 'the golden ratio'. A face that is shaped according to that ratio almost naturally looks attractive and something we describe as 'beautiful'. It's the perfectionism of nature. You could take a look at the picture in this article about a girl who has symmetrical and according to the article the perfect face.

It's also true that most people find female faces that look a little 'childish' more attractive than those that are boldly shaped and strong. So if you are going for a cute character, all her features should be soft and tender, like a child's face. Her face could a bit round, even. Achura is the race you can't go much wrong with. They have pretty cute facial features ready at the start. Probably the most challenging race is True Amarrians, it's a bit harder to make 'a cute girl' with that setup.

You have the cutest face I've ever seen.

Hello guys I've been trying to make a cute character but I'm a bit stuck right now. So I'm coming here to ask you guys for help!

Heres my progress so far: http://i1305.photobucket.com/albums/s559/pryox/20121227025644_zpsc467acd1.jpg

She should be a smart and pretty girl from a royal family who abandoned her lifestyle to be a capsulier, and one of her distinctive traits is she has a scar on her right temple from an attack by a ferocious predator.

i was convinced this entire thread was trolling when i read the title.

having now read the thread...i think it's much worse.

very cute imo)))

Ugh sorry my attempts not good enough. You have a really cute toon though!

I felt inspired to try again using your toon as a reff. Howd I do?

http://i1305.photobucket.com/albums/s559/pryox/20121227212047_zps638d401c.jpg

-- Jesus Garcia-Lopez

no, no. don't mistake me.

it wasn't your attempts that made it worse. it was the replies of a few of the posters that made me feel that way. i find it a little annoying to read people bashing others for nothing more than differences of opinion.

and, i admit, i lol'd a little at at your rendition of me. it's like i had bad collagen injections and implants gone awry lol. did good on the eyes though!

This dude is a troll that fooled all.
WTF is wrong with you that you can not make a pretty girl.

This dude is a troll that fooled all.
WTF is wrong with you that you can not make a pretty girl.

nah, troll is when the fail is intentional. It's hard to know exactly what is appealing about a person's face. and then there's no way of knowing what is off and what isn't.

OP did you soften that jawline as much as possible

that's better too, but her lips look a little thin and the lower face is "pointy"

I tried to do something for ya: http://i.imgur.com/26oxS.jpg

Your toons chin is pretty sharp isnt it?

-- Jesus Garcia-Lopez

7 is a tomboy. you hear that, 7? he said your chin is sharp as ****

see i told you you're ugly

Well... I tred to but then I messed up and I couldnt get the look back so I decided to base it off my friend's OC. Shes supposed to have a narrower face but i tried to keep in mind your advice about softening up the features and I think I managed it while making it look like his artwork.
http://i1305.photobucket.com/albums/s559/pryox/20121227230946_zps290159ac.jpg
Shes supposed to be a genius with an IQ of 200 but a traumatic past so shes slightly psycho but she hides it usually

--Jesus Garcia-Lopez

Looking good starts by not being amarr.

And god there are mathematical formulas to calculate beauty, just need to use them :)


Ps: yo, i'm a PI-alt.... Proud to not have jugs like spaceship barbie or lara croft :)

me defending Triple F's in New Eden

Right there with you.

http://i1305.photobucket.com/albums/s559/pryox/20121227230946_zps290159ac.jpg
Shes supposed to be a genius with an IQ of 200 but a traumatic past so shes slightly psycho but she hides it usually

--Jesus Garcia-Lopez

Off topic: There are some absolutely gorgeous characters in this thread (both male and female). I kind of like how this thread turned into half advice, half avatar showcase.