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Cyrvys en Distel
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.12.27 19:02:00 -
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Although this will most likely start some sort of flame war, that isn't my intention, really.
Anyways, I wonder why everytime there is some major group, everyone assumes CCP is in some sort of secret alliance with them? I hear alot more these days about CCP-Goon, back in the day it was CCP-BoB, sometimes seemingly founded, sometimes seemingly not. But why does everyone assume any Alliance or Group doing good and going strong must be in collusion with CCP, like some sort of Illuminati conspiracy? Is it just nature to assume that someone doing good must be getting help from on-high? |
masternerdguy
Inner Shadow
C.L.O.N.E.
950
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Posted - 2012.12.27 19:02:00 -
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Conspiracies exist because they are true, obviously.
Things are only impossible until they are not. |
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
1288
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Posted - 2012.12.27 19:03:00 -
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from conspiracy theorists
a eve-style bounty system https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=359105
You fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail to jump because you are cloaked |
Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
259
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Posted - 2012.12.27 19:03:00 -
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9/11 has an insect job.
If you want instant gratification, go stimulate your genitals. EvE is Hard, deal with it. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
10881
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Posted - 2012.12.27 19:06:00 -
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Because it's so much easier than to admit that they've been beaten by those n00bs GÇö because that could obviously never happen without dev intervention.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan. |
Randolph Rothstein
whatever corp.
185
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Posted - 2012.12.27 19:07:00 -
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because it happened in the past,in one MMORPG i played
if its true for eve i dont know,wouldnt surprise me tho because power corrupts  |
Jenavee De'amore
Perkone
Caldari State
105
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Posted - 2012.12.27 19:08:00 -
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Most (if not all) conspiracy theorists have no concrete basis to found their claims, but to give them some credit can be hilarious to read in the forums :)
Try to look unimportant; they may be low on ammo.... |
Andracin
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
8
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Posted - 2012.12.27 19:20:00 -
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It is partially because of a developer misconduct back in the day that actually benefited BOB. That was pretty much internally sorted out by CCP and I doubt its going to happen again. However like some others have stated its alot easier to think that CCP is helping the current most successful alliance than to admit your alliance sucks. Other than that...people are drawn to the unknown and murky. Look how many RL conspiracy theories there are from Abraham Lincoln to the Bohemian Grove. You can't expect them to be any diffrent in a MMO... |
Sentamon
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Posted - 2012.12.27 19:25:00 -
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You only care because you feel there's some truth to it.
~ Professional Forum Alt -á~ |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
2263
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Posted - 2012.12.27 19:33:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Because it's so much easier than to admit that they've been beaten by those n00bs GÇö because that could obviously never happen without dev intervention.
We're skillless noobs who only win by blobbing titans.
And drakes
Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd
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Miri Amatonur
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
25
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Posted - 2012.12.27 19:39:00 -
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Well some employees of CCP come from the game and large alliances.
There has been the case of t20 and BoB.
Some basic information about their "internal security" can be found here:
old EVE forum |
Abu Shahid
0.0 Axis Fleet
Stealth Syndicate
8
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Posted - 2012.12.27 19:46:00 -
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I'm pretty sure that Devs care more about their jobs (which feed their families) than helping people win at internet spaceships. |
I Love Boobies
All Hail Boobies
247
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Posted - 2012.12.27 19:49:00 -
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Cyrvys en Distel wrote:Although this will most likely start some sort of flame war, that isn't my intention, really.
Anyways, I wonder why everytime there is some major group, everyone assumes CCP is in some sort of secret alliance with them? I hear alot more these days about CCP-Goon, back in the day it was CCP-BoB, sometimes seemingly founded, sometimes seemingly not. But why does everyone assume any Alliance or Group doing good and going strong must be in collusion with CCP, like some sort of Illuminati conspiracy? Is it just nature to assume that someone doing good must be getting help from on-high?
From their mammas of course. Do I need to spell out about the birds and the bees?
( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o )
The world would be a better place if boobies ran the world instead of boobs. |
Mars Theran
Pod Kings
1421
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Posted - 2012.12.27 20:02:00 -
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I think you are confusing the meaning of good. What you really mean is being successful.
It's a conspiracy because in the past it has been proven true. It doesn't mean it is happening now, but people will bring it up because it has precedent. It's also a way of poking at the big guys; and likely not with any real belief that it is happening.
Either way, it is a possibility, though a limited one. What is really happening is more likely that players in these big groups are manipulating the Devs into doing things in their favor through feedback and suggestions. This happens all the time, although I think much of it doesn't get through.
The stuff that isn't predicted as an outcome of a particular change that seems favorable to game play will likely happen, but often I think some of these 'big guys' will do thing in favor of other groups without realizing it, or possibly even intentionally. It has happened a few times in the past couple years. Not to say they don't also potentially benefit from it.
Thing is, speculation always leads to conspiracy theory, and all we can do is speculate. ..I've gotten something like 12 likes while writing this reply; that seems very odd to me. Who is Fluffy Dice? 
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
2282
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Posted - 2012.12.27 20:03:00 -
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Mars Theran wrote: What is really happening is more likely that players in these big groups are manipulating the Devs into doing things in their favor through feedback and suggestions. This happens all the time, although I think much of it doesn't get through.
Yeah next we'll work on the freighters. After the mining barge/exhumer EHP buffs, anything is possible !
Mars Theran wrote: I've gotten something like 12 likes while writing this reply; that seems very odd to me. Who is Fluffy Dice?
Probably a script to like everyone, like Destination Skillqueue was using.
Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd
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Ginger Barbarella
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
905
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Posted - 2012.12.27 20:06:00 -
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Cyrvys en Distel wrote:I wonder where these 'conspiracy theory' types come from?
Why, what have you heard?!!?! 
Fly Minmatar Air --- "Trust in the Rust!" |
Atticus Lowa
Lowa Corp Industries and Security
17
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Posted - 2012.12.27 20:09:00 -
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yeh like how ccp secretly controls the Icelandic government, totally not fake.
explains how they are able to get away with shooting police cruisers, and have connections with Santa... how else did he get a corax? /sarcasm
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masternerdguy
Inner Shadow
C.L.O.N.E.
975
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Posted - 2012.12.27 20:12:00 -
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Ginger Barbarella wrote:Cyrvys en Distel wrote:I wonder where these 'conspiracy theory' types come from? Why, what have you heard?!!?!
You see, teh gewns want to put all PVE players and hi seccers into concentration / re-education camps called "Gooncademy". BoB was actually a secret shadow alliance of teh gewnz and was a sock puppet the gewns used to control nullsec politics while pretending to be victims. Finally Malaku and Mittani are actually the same person. Goons own -A-, why do you think they dropped all their sov?
Things are only impossible until they are not. |
Mocam
EVE University
Ivy League
186
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Posted - 2012.12.27 20:21:00 -
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It happened in the past and EVE is not a game famous for it's trusting community.
EVE has a lot of what folks call meta gaming - meaning scamming, lying, breaking your word, dishonesty and general lack of honorable behavior. It is designed this way.
Just think what kind of minds put such a world together to enable the game play and how far you'd be willing to trust that kind of "intelligence" - trust tends to be a 4 letter word here.
Once they broke trust, it became damned difficult to reestablish it - even years after an incident happened - it still boils down to a well deserved lack of trust due to the nature of what they designed.
Also - Just because you may be paranoid doesn't mean *they* aren't after you. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
2286
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Posted - 2012.12.27 20:26:00 -
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masternerdguy wrote:Ginger Barbarella wrote:Cyrvys en Distel wrote:I wonder where these 'conspiracy theory' types come from? Why, what have you heard?!!?! You see, teh gewns want to put all PVE players and hi seccers into concentration / re-education camps called "Gooncademy". BoB was actually a secret shadow alliance of teh gewnz and was a sock puppet the gewns used to control nullsec politics while pretending to be victims. Finally Malaku and Mittani are actually the same person. Goons own -A-, why do you think they dropped all their sov?
It's called "highsec" and CONCORD are the camp guards.
You don't talk back to -SOLOSOLOSOLO-
Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd
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Bane Necran
Appono Astos
1246
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Posted - 2012.12.27 20:29:00 -
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People begin conspiring as soon as they can talk. If you don't believe in conspiracies, you are prey.
"The nice thing about quotes is that they give us a nodding acquaintance with the originator which is often socially impressive." ~Kenneth Williams |
Mildew Wolf
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Posted - 2012.12.27 21:17:00 -
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to speak is to lie--to live is to collaborate
also kugutsumen |
M1k3y Koontz
Blackened Skies
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Posted - 2012.12.28 01:11:00 -
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[tinfoil]All conspiracy theoriests are Goon alts trying to ruin EVE for the rest of us [/tinfoil]
How much herp could a herp derp derp if a herp derp could herp derp. |
Sir Diablos
The Plebian Republic
5
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Posted - 2012.12.28 01:17:00 -
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From the precedence laid before them.
The devil is in the details... |
Ryuji Takemiya
Omni Tech Industries
Initiative Associates
7
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Posted - 2012.12.28 02:01:00 -
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Because CCP and CFC are very close to looking like the same thing in the shape and positioning of their letters. |
La Nariz
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
467
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Posted - 2012.12.28 02:05:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:
It's called "highsec" and CONCORD are the camp guards.
You don't talk back to -SOLOSOLOSOLO-
what have you done! you have mention he who should not be named!
npc alts aren't people |
Nerath Naaris
Pink Winged Unicorns for Peace Love and Anarchy
284
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Posted - 2012.12.28 03:02:00 -
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Fact is, Goonswarm is actually an FBI/CIA-front.
I have that from a trustworthy source that obviously cannot be named, but if you think about it, it makes perfect sense!
Forum-unbanned since 2011.10.20. |
Cyprus Black
The Learning Curve.
529
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Posted - 2012.12.28 03:12:00 -
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I can't really be mad. They are the only likes I received for Christmas, both ingame and RL.
Hyjinx of a Highsec Pirate
http://cyprusblack.blogspot.com/ |
Bane Necran
Appono Astos
1246
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Posted - 2012.12.28 03:22:00 -
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Nerath Naaris wrote:Fact is, Goonswarm is actually an FBI/CIA-front.
I have that from a trustworthy source that obviously cannot be named, but if you think about it, it makes perfect sense!
Once upon a time there was this guy who spent days wandering hisec systems alerting everyone that EVE is a CIA project.
"The nice thing about quotes is that they give us a nodding acquaintance with the originator which is often socially impressive." ~Kenneth Williams |
iskflakes
Magnets Inc.
196
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Posted - 2012.12.28 03:28:00 -
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There is at least one example of CCP directly helping a particular player group, BOB. There was a developer who gave them loads of extremely valuable T2 BPOs, in today's money that's hundreds of billions of ISK. This was discovered by a player who did a great investigation. When he revealed the details CCP's response was to ban all his accounts, and ban anybody who mentioned his name or website for the next several years, and to setup an internal group to investigate developer misconduct. Since then it has been obvious that CCP are not entirely neutral when it comes to events ingame.
The other major example of CCP directly influencing player politics occurred during the war between Goons and Raiden. Goons were losing the war and their members were getting angry, so CCP devs fast-tracked nerfs to make sure goons won, as they were afraid of losing subscriptions. Raiden is now a husk of an alliance that rents from HBC or something like that, and goons continue to keep a large base of active subscriptions to threaten CCP with should they ever start losing again.
Most other conspiracy theories are nonsense.
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