I agree that CTA's suck, Blobs suck, hotdrops suck, losing sov sucks. It's why I'm in NPC null. just roam and pick off the stragglers of that blob on a cta to hotdrop some sov. That's why i specifically suggested people selling their goods in NPC null and lowsec. Anyone can go to nullsec. Theres not nearly as many common gatecamps as you think. And NPC null is only slightly worse than any other place in the game.

Dear Original Poster,

Your idea is very bright indeed. But there are some external factors.

To get a full experience please set up a POS in low sec and stockpile your BPO's there. To get industry and invention rolling.

Also, please warp freighters loaded with ZYdrine across 0.4 systems. Also, could you bring a freighter load of tech 2 modules and undock in it please.

Then also navigate your newly bought mission battle ship past borderline systems.

Also, use shortest cuts for faster goods acquisition, fly shuttles through Tama, Old Man Star and Rancer to get better delivery.

[quote=Qolde][quote=psycho freak]

im ex outbreak lived npc 0.0 for long time but what I mean also is

why wiuld anyone in they right mind join a sov corp aliance just to spend hours days weeks setting up they area and then a massive coalition blob comes and takes the lot

I fought in the lv south war
I fought in the first bob war takeing feythabolis from rise
I fought in second bob war and against ol MC
I fought in a few drone land wars
I fought in atlas wars

me personaly iv had enough of taken and loseing space

I rember old north with roaming tri gangs tbh that was best time in null sec no sov crap

ppl aint gona wast time build somthing for a mega coalition to just come and take and if they do good luck to them


all the problems with null sec are player made problems you had to blue everything in sight and wipe out those who didnt blue so now you you whine lol

make all null npc space remove sov they only want the moond anways

Plan B: significantly raise taxes on high-sec transactions.

I like that one but, if null taxes can be changed by station owner it will not take more than 1h after DT/patch before the little grunts get yet, another wallet hit.

And after everything in high sec is taxed to 95% and industry obliterated and any other ham-fisted changes...

after all of that...

And players still choose to not fall into the folds of the null coalitions to become a F1 monkey; then what?

null sec is a joke to alot of ppl

ppl dont like to put alot assests at risk and with blob warfare sov taken station teken ppl lose alot they junk
make all null npc space job done you see alot more willing to take the risk

ppl dont like cta its our game time we do wtf we want with it not what some jumped up null dude says

if you null secers have problem with null adapt or try fix or gtfo all this whineing kinda getting silly

nothing rong with losec
nothing rong with hisec

nurf hisec and ccp will lose alot subs

losec is were I live and do 90% my activatys 10% hisec

null sec 0%

mostly becouse the ppl that live there I put up with them for three years and wouldnt wast another second on them

so cry whine beg ccp for nurf of other area wont change jack sh#t except the loss of subs

And after everything in high sec is taxed to 95% and industry obliterated and any other ham-fisted changes...

after all of that...

And players still choose to not fall into the folds of the null coalitions to become a F1 monkey; then what?

And after everything in high sec is taxed to 95% and industry obliterated and any other ham-fisted changes...

after all of that...

And players still choose to not fall into the folds of the null coalitions to become a F1 monkey; then what?

That's ********. 95%? Don't be silly. Secondly, I've played the sov game, and it's really not for people like me. I scoff at F1 monkeys in fact. Small gang warfare is much better. I don't want anyone to join a corporation and play the game for someone else. Chribba said,"Never let anyone else dictate your goals." The keyword is dictate. You can suggest goals, you can debate goals or you can improve them. This isn't even a war on hisec move. It's a war on carebears. You're in NC. In fact your alliance is neighbors to mine, you have a vested interest in the broadened scope of industrial affairs in New Eden. This perception of the state of affairs was realized by enough of the nullsec population, or at least the ones with a voice to get it through, it wouldn't change anything about the game except the risk/reward optionsof buying nullsec produced materials.

People will still take **** to Jita.
The price in jita will be a percentage higher than nearer to the places of production.
The young trader will be able to exploit this, if he had the option.
The hisec manufacturer would be able to exploit this, if he had the option.
The only difference is that you wouldn't be forced to go to jita for t2 materials.

I think the more important aspect to consider is if high-sec industry is primarily run by null-sec alts, then what would happen to the high-sec market if a large portion of those industry/market alts migrated to low/null?

EVE would die. We better not change anything.

And after everything in high sec is taxed to 95% and industry obliterated and any other ham-fisted changes...

after all of that...

And players still choose to not fall into the folds of the null coalitions to become a F1 monkey; then what?

No need for that kind of extremism. The increased taxes would simply encourage more people to participate in low/null as opposed to being a stick to force *everyone* into low/null.


I think the more important aspect to consider is if high-sec industry is primarily run by null-sec alts, then what would happen to the high-sec market if a large portion of those industry/market alts migrated to low/null?

No need for that kind of extremism. The increased taxes would simply encourage more people to participate in low/null as opposed to being a stick to force *everyone* into low/null.


I think the more important aspect to consider is if high-sec industry is primarily run by null-sec alts, then what would happen to the high-sec market if a large portion of those industry/market alts migrated to low/null?

Then nullsec would continue to require the majority of EVE's produce to consume without being able to simply place the producers into highsec. Nullsec alliances that wished to continue warring in nullsec would be compelled to stock their space with non-combatants in order to keep fuelling their war machines. "F1 monkey" would no longer be a nullsec paradigm. That's what.

It is the most elegant solution to the very problem you complain about.

Then nullsec would continue to require the majority of EVE's produce to consume without being able to simply place the producers into highsec. Nullsec alliances that wished to continue warring in nullsec would be compelled to stock their space with non-combatants in order to keep fuelling their war machines. "F1 monkey" would no longer be a nullsec paradigm. That's what.

It is the most elegant solution to the very problem you complain about.

Taxes would be merely passed onto the consumer, best solution is to match highsec industrial production capacity with highsec commodity consumption, ie: removing most station manufacturing slots, gearing down highsec large POS production capacity, research, etc. and letting scarcity increase pressure to develop new manufacturing areas.

null is what players made it now enjoy your sh#thole and stop crying

Taxes would be merely passed onto the consumer, best solution is to match highsec industrial production capacity with highsec commodity consumption, ie: removing most station manufacturing slots, gearing down highsec large POS production capacity, research, etc. and letting scarcity increase pressure to develop new manufacturing areas.

that would only increase prices ppl would just jf mats to losec build ninja to hisec

null sec has everything it need
top planets
ice belts
all ores
moon goo

but instead of building a empire to match hisec nullers would rather smash everyone or blue everyone
yes a few things need buff like pos and stations but for most part nuller have everything at they disposal if they choose not to utalise thats theyet problem no need to nurf other areas or cry on forums

I agree with the declaration that null is what players made it, but I realize that I can change it.

Nullsec is what it is because the inhabitants have adapted the most effective practices given the hardcoded game mechanics provided to them by CCP. Children confuse this with some sort of moral judgement about nullsec dwellers.

Nullsec is what it is because the inhabitants have adapted the most effective practices given the hardcoded game mechanics provided to them by CCP. Children confuse this with some sort of moral judgement about nullsec dwellers.