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Hannah Flex Elite Market PvP Consortium 29	Posted - 2012.12.31 02:32:00 - [151] - Quote Frying Doom wrote: So you have never come across a business that likes free advertising? Must be nice to live in the middle of Antarctica I realize that it is chic and vogue to be anti-goon and more recently anti-TEST given their successes in recent months. For the record I cant stand TEST and I dont like TRIBE even more but for en24 to say: hey we gave you the infoz on the day after Christmas and you no do nothing! is really weak. The whole story is weak. All we have is supposed 'logs' which anyone can make with MS Notepad and a story. If its true- then these individuals and groups have laundered any dirty isk and are laying low at the moment, only to resume activities when the coast is clear/ tweaks made to their programs and software/accounts.
La Nariz GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 508	Posted - 2012.12.31 02:35:00 - [152] - Quote Hannah Flex wrote: The whole story is weak. All we have is supposed 'logs' which anyone can make with MS Notepad and a story. If its true- then these individuals and groups have laundered any dirty isk and are laying low at the moment, only to resume activities when the coast is clear/ tweaks made to their programs and software/accounts. Another good point CCP only has so many man hours they can expend and we don't set their timelines. Unlike a ~credible~ newssite run by someone who is in an alliance that used to have a known botter in it who probably doesn't have to worry about timelines. npc alts aren't people
DarthNefarius Minmatar Heavy Industries 534	Posted - 2012.12.31 02:36:00 - [153] - Quote baltec1 wrote: DarthNefarius wrote: Yep attack the messenger when a story is true. The messenger just alerted the bad guys they are being watched before CCP started watching them. Well the article did state CCP was sent the info Quote: However, with checkable logs and related information sent to them (our readers will kindly understand that certain names and chat-log details could not be published here, but were sent to CCP Sreegs when the source agreed)GÇª perhaps it would be in the best interest of CCP Games to set an example? So if they were not under the eye already then ... when? Looks like Riverini gave CCP alot more heads up then the Goons gave CCP with the FW expoit which they told CCP only after ~5 trillion profit so that others wouldn't be able to do the same expoit. On top of that the Goons got a PLEX for bringing the expoit to CCP will Riverini be getting a PLEX for his work uncovering of these botters? Ironic-áfact: In the future the pirates and PVPers will likely have no bounties on them, while the risk averse carebears will run around with "wanted" marked across their face.
Snow Axe GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 816	Posted - 2012.12.31 02:36:00 - [154] - Quote FDIC Agent wrote: A warning? If ccp was informed in early December like Riverini said, and then provided the full logs on the 26 th. It strikes me odd that so many of you that are buddies with the hbc are painting Riverini as the bad guy. Why? If Riverini is lying about giving ccp a heads up about it, then why hasn't ccp said he is lying? It is like you care more about Riverini being wrong than if botters are stopped.. He's an idiotic blowhard who has no idea what CCP trying to catch/ban/whatever a botter even entails, let alone how long it takes, yet he made up his own arbitrary deadline to "break" this story anyway. That's why he's the "bad guy", because his fever dreams of being some kind of MMO Woodward and Bernstein are clearly more important than actually trying to get botters punished. Let's say everything in that article is 100% true, for argument's sake (which is a leap when your only sources are "Horus" and "anonymous"). He's just announced to the world who the botters are, where they operate, how they operate, and has now topped it off by telling them that CCP definitely knows about them in this thread. The only way he could have helped them even further is by calling them personally and letting them know what's up. And just for the record, if I woke up tomorrow and the entire HBC was banned, I wouldn't give a ****. Hell, it might even shake the game up some. "Look any reason why you need to talk like that? I have now reported you. I dont need to listen to your bad tone. If you cant have a grown up conversation then leave the thread["
Sentamon 568	Posted - 2012.12.31 02:38:00 - [155] - Quote Goon credibility! ~ Professional Forum Alt -á~
Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 2897	Posted - 2012.12.31 02:38:00 - [156] - Quote La Nariz wrote: Hannah Flex wrote: The whole story is weak. All we have is supposed 'logs' which anyone can make with MS Notepad and a story. If its true- then these individuals and groups have laundered any dirty isk and are laying low at the moment, only to resume activities when the coast is clear/ tweaks made to their programs and software/accounts. Another good point CCP only has so many man hours they can expend and we don't set their timelines. Unlike a ~credible~ newssite run by someone who is in an alliance that used to have a known botter in it who probably doesn't have to worry about timelines. Well I guess from this point the logs won't be showing very much. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm
La Nariz GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 512	Posted - 2012.12.31 02:39:00 - [157] - Quote DarthNefarius wrote: So if they were not under the eye already then ... when? Looks like Riverini gave CCP alot more heads up then the Goons gave CCP with the FW expoit which they told CCP only after ~5 trillion profit so that others wouldn't be able to do the same expoit. On top of that the Goons got a PLEX for bringing the expoit to CCP will Riverini be getting a PLEX for his work uncovering of these botters? Yes reporting something in a week with a major holiday then whining that it was not immediately followed is "alot more heads up." Tell me more about the FW exploit, exactly how much "heads up" was given :allears:. Remember to cite your sources. Oh yeah nerf highsec. npc alts aren't people
Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 2897	Posted - 2012.12.31 02:39:00 - [158] - Quote Snow Axe wrote: Let's say everything in that article is 100% true, for argument's sake (which is a leap when your only sources are "Horus" and "anonymous"). Let's think about this a bit more. Let's suppose NPC Corp Alt was a source. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm
Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 2897	Posted - 2012.12.31 02:39:00 - [159] - Quote La Nariz wrote: DarthNefarius wrote: So if they were not under the eye already then ... when? Looks like Riverini gave CCP alot more heads up then the Goons gave CCP with the FW expoit which they told CCP only after ~5 trillion profit so that others wouldn't be able to do the same expoit. On top of that the Goons got a PLEX for bringing the expoit to CCP will Riverini be getting a PLEX for his work uncovering of these botters? Yes reporting something in a week with a major holiday then whining that it was not immediately followed is "alot more heads up." Tell me more about the FW exploit, exactly how much "heads up" was given :allears:. Remember to cite your sources. Oh yeah nerf highsec. Nerf blobbers. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm
Marlona Sky D00M. Northern Coalition. 2705	Posted - 2012.12.31 02:40:00 - [160] - Quote Mistah Ewedynao wrote: Frying Doom wrote: CCP Sreegs wrote: Oh I also want to mention in case anyone is paying attention that if you really care about this issue this is the polar opposite of how to get a result. We'll use the security world as an example because that's what I'm most familiar with. If I discover a vulnerability on a website it is completely irresponsible for me to go and publish that vulnerability in the public without first notifying the responsible parties and giving them time to act. In this case you're basically telling these people someone's watching them and you think they'll continue doing bad things if they think we're going to look into this? This is completely irresponsible and in the future if you honestly care about an issue you will report it to me and give us time to look into it before telling the world about it. I'm not saying not to write about it at all, but saying we've been notified and publishing all the potatoes without giving us an opportunity to look into it is more than a bit disingenuous. I think that the biggest problem here is the lack or credit that any news web site can then give for example We ratted these people out to CCP a month ago and then because of the information we provided 32 people were permabanned with CCP confiscating 2.1 trillion isk ect, ect, So they don't really get that added incentive to hold of on a story, much like real life news media generally do not hold off. So maybe like the forums processes need to be more transparent when it comes to complaints made against ISDs so to do all the other rulings, it is not after all like anyone's actual name is being used and in EvE actions are meant to have consequences, so yes it would be nice to know when you are letting someone into your cop if they have received previous punishments for RMTing or botting. But you may feel free to now call me a nut job as I would like transparency in the process. Yep we need to know who the banned botters are. Name em. It's not like they own the name, CCP owns everything. I too have ratted out a bunch of botters and have no clue as to the results. Why the big secret? Not being a hacking/scripting whiz, I am also curious how checking the servers is gonna expose a client side "injection"? Remove local, structure mails and revamp the directional scanner!

La Nariz GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 515	Posted - 2012.12.31 02:43:00 - [161] - Quote Alavaria Fera wrote: La Nariz wrote: DarthNefarius wrote: So if they were not under the eye already then ... when? Looks like Riverini gave CCP alot more heads up then the Goons gave CCP with the FW expoit which they told CCP only after ~5 trillion profit so that others wouldn't be able to do the same expoit. On top of that the Goons got a PLEX for bringing the expoit to CCP will Riverini be getting a PLEX for his work uncovering of these botters? Yes reporting something in a week with a major holiday then whining that it was not immediately followed is "alot more heads up." Tell me more about the FW exploit, exactly how much "heads up" was given :allears:. Remember to cite your sources. Oh yeah nerf highsec. Nerf blobbers. ~dishonourable blobbers~ npc alts aren't people
Xtek Hemah Viziam Amarr Empire 13	Posted - 2012.12.31 02:44:00 - [162] - Quote Banhammer all botters. If Sreegs says this kind of sensationalism isnt helpful then I have to take his word for it. I mean the dude only does this stuff for a living right?
Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 2900	Posted - 2012.12.31 02:44:00 - [163] - Quote La Nariz wrote: Alavaria Fera wrote: La Nariz wrote: Yes reporting something in a week with a major holiday then whining that it was not immediately followed is "alot more heads up." Tell me more about the FW exploit, exactly how much "heads up" was given :allears:. Remember to cite your sources. Oh yeah nerf highsec. Nerf blobbers. ~dishonourable blobbers~ So when will an article be written about how we're bad blobbers and have been reported? Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm
Doc Fury Furious Enterprises 982	Posted - 2012.12.31 02:45:00 - [164] - Quote This latest EVE drama is absolutely hilarious no matter how it eventually goes down, and the cherry on top is all the hand-wringing and feigned outrage coming from Goons. Carry on lads, popcorn's ready. The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'no.'
Marlona Sky D00M. Northern Coalition. 2705	Posted - 2012.12.31 02:46:00 - [165] - Quote DarthNefarius wrote: baltec1 wrote: DarthNefarius wrote: Yep attack the messenger when a story is true. The messenger just alerted the bad guys they are being watched before CCP started watching them. Well the article did state CCP was sent the info Quote: However, with checkable logs and related information sent to them (our readers will kindly understand that certain names and chat-log details could not be published here, but were sent to CCP Sreegs when the source agreed)GÇª perhaps it would be in the best interest of CCP Games to set an example? So if they were not under the eye already then ... when? Looks like Riverini gave CCP alot more heads up then the Goons gave CCP with the FW expoit which they told CCP only after ~5 trillion profit so that others wouldn't be able to do the same expoit. On top of that the Goons got a PLEX for bringing the expoit to CCP will Riverini be getting a PLEX for his work uncovering of these botters? Hooooooooooold on there. As much as I love dumpstering a goon on the forums as the next guy. They DID warn CCP of the exploit when the FW changes were on the test server as well as others did. CCP for whatever reason, did not think a group of players would be that dedicated to do it. Which those goons and I think some non-goons, I cant remember, did. They just broke it too hard. Remove local, structure mails and revamp the directional scanner!
La Nariz GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 515	Posted - 2012.12.31 02:46:00 - [166] - Quote Xtek Hemah wrote: Banhammer all botters. If Sreegs says this kind of sensationalism isnt helpful then I have to take his word for it. I mean the dude only does this stuff for a living right? Exactly, he knows he's done this for a while now. Yet all of these ~highsec intellectuals~ feel the need to question whether warning the bad guys the cops are coming is a good idea. Boycott en24! npc alts aren't people
Kogh Ayon SUNDERING Goonswarm Federation 65	Posted - 2012.12.31 02:46:00 - [167] - Quote CCP Sreegs wrote: We action against botters and RMTers based on actual empirical evidence provided to us by the EVE servers. We do not ban based on blogs posted on the internet, nor will we discuss individual actions whether to confirm or deny their existence as per long standing policy. I can tell you that we've been working on botting and RMT for some time now and our numbers have shown things trending down steeply. Given that we're the only people who could possibly have access to this data anyone stating otherwise is merely speculating. No amount of articles published on the internet by third parties is going to change that, nor will it stop the conspiracy crowd from pushing turbo on their already overactive speculation machines. If there's anything here to look into it'll be looked into. In the meantime we've been working on a blog to be published within the next few weeks with some fun new information. Good man, just keep it goes
La Nariz GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 515	Posted - 2012.12.31 02:48:00 - [168] - Quote Alavaria Fera wrote: So when will an article be written about how we're bad blobbers and have been reported? It has to be written by a ~credible~ space news site like en24. npc alts aren't people
Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 2900	Posted - 2012.12.31 02:49:00 - [169] - Quote La Nariz wrote: Xtek Hemah wrote: Banhammer all botters. If Sreegs says this kind of sensationalism isnt helpful then I have to take his word for it. I mean the dude only does this stuff for a living right? Exactly, he knows he's done this for a while now. Yet all of these ~highsec intellectuals~ feel the need to question whether warning the bad guys the cops are coming is a good idea. Boycott en24! Well, if it's Riverini, it's fine. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm
Ginger Barbarella Caldari Provisions Caldari State 1040	Posted - 2012.12.31 02:49:00 - [170] - Quote tl;dr Witness no surprise here. People don't seem to understand that CCP acts when it suits their purposes to do so. When it doesn't, they don't. It's called "investigation". Fly Minmatar Air --- "Trust in the Rust!"

La Nariz GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 515	Posted - 2012.12.31 02:51:00 - [171] - Quote Ginger Barbarella wrote: tl;dr Witness no surprise here. People don't seem to understand that CCP acts when it suits their purposes to do so. When it doesn't, they don't. It's called "investigation". Thank you for the enlightening conspiracy allegation. Now please tell me more :allears:. npc alts aren't people
Sentamon 568	Posted - 2012.12.31 02:51:00 - [172] - Quote http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/22839477.jpg ~ Professional Forum Alt -á~
Kinis Deren EVE University Ivy League 108	Posted - 2012.12.31 02:53:00 - [173] - Quote Alavaria Fera wrote: La Nariz wrote: Alavaria Fera wrote: La Nariz wrote: Yes reporting something in a week with a major holiday then whining that it was not immediately followed is "alot more heads up." Tell me more about the FW exploit, exactly how much "heads up" was given :allears:. Remember to cite your sources. Oh yeah nerf highsec. Nerf blobbers. ~dishonourable blobbers~ So when will an article be written about how we're bad blobbers and have been reported? When you give that F5 button a rest and stop ship toasting GD ...... i.e. never would be my guess
Snow Axe GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 816	Posted - 2012.12.31 02:54:00 - [174] - Quote Sentamon wrote: http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/22839477.jpg Yeah good point, let's get this back on track and talk about the article whose two prime sources for information are Horus and someone logged into a guest account on IRC. Someone else start though because lol "Look any reason why you need to talk like that? I have now reported you. I dont need to listen to your bad tone. If you cant have a grown up conversation then leave the thread["
Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 2935	Posted - 2012.12.31 02:56:00 - [175] - Quote La Nariz wrote: Ginger Barbarella wrote: tl;dr Witness no surprise here. People don't seem to understand that CCP acts when it suits their purposes to do so. When it doesn't, they don't. It's called "investigation". Thank you for the enlightening conspiracy allegation. Now please tell me more :allears:. Indeed, tell me more :waiting: Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm
Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 2935	Posted - 2012.12.31 02:56:00 - [176] - Quote Snow Axe wrote: Sentamon wrote: http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/22839477.jpg Yeah good point, let's get this back on track and talk about the article whose two prime sources for information are Horus and someone logged into a guest account on IRC. Someone else start though because lol What else needs to be said, really. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm
La Nariz GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 551	Posted - 2012.12.31 02:58:00 - [177] - Quote Snow Axe wrote: Sentamon wrote: http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/22839477.jpg Yeah good point, let's get this back on track and talk about the article whose two prime sources for information are Horus and someone logged into a guest account on IRC. Someone else start though because lol The best thing that could happen would be riverini taking that article down and CCP nuking this thread. npc alts aren't people
Peter the Hermit Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2012.12.31 02:59:00 - [178] - Quote Hello TEST? Anyone there? HELLO? HBC!?!! HELLO!?!!
Nicolo da'Vicenza Air The Unthinkables 2341	Posted - 2012.12.31 02:59:00 - [179] - Quote anyone who questions the integrity of A PUPPETMASTER is clearly a goon psyops agent working hard to support their beloved allies, Tribal Band
Frying Doom Zat's Affiliated Traders 1400	Posted - 2012.12.31 03:00:00 - [180] - Quote La Nariz wrote: Snow Axe wrote: Sentamon wrote: http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/22839477.jpg Yeah good point, let's get this back on track and talk about the article whose two prime sources for information are Horus and someone logged into a guest account on IRC. Someone else start though because lol The best thing that could happen would be riverini taking that article down and CCP nuking this thread. If they started doing that the next step is CCP demanding the removal of articles that cast them in a bad light and trashing those threads. The step after that is of course having to get written approval from CCP on any article as everything that occurs within the game is their property. We have enough censorship on these forums now without comments like that. Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.



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