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TriadSte
Thr33lance Incorp
10
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Posted - 2011.10.08 11:27:00 -
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Would be very nice to have. Especially after Hilmars blog about getting it right from here on in.
I think we deserve a damn answer? |

Vachir Khan
TriSeq Defence Group
6
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Posted - 2011.10.08 11:29:00 -
[2] - Quote
Stop whining. Excellence is not a skill, it's an attitude. |

Captain Sunnymuffins
Jita Customs and Excise
1
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Posted - 2011.10.08 11:31:00 -
[3] - Quote
Really I don't think this is something to get worked up about. |

TriadSte
Thr33lance Incorp
10
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Posted - 2011.10.08 11:31:00 -
[4] - Quote
STFU how about that dip $hit. We deserve an answer! |

Nebula Terron
Wolf's in Sheep's Clothing
0
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Posted - 2011.10.08 11:37:00 -
[5] - Quote
The server worked fine for the rest of us it only excluded YOU cause the community decided EVE would be a better place if you couldn't log in.
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Galadriel Vasquez
Bright Paradigm
4
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Posted - 2011.10.08 11:38:00 -
[6] - Quote
No we don't - the server farted 5 minutes early. EVEGate then fell over too briefly. I expect all will be well very soon. However, If theres a serious issue and we arent up in an hour from now then yes maybe an info announcement is due. I think you are a bit excitable though and then to abuse other people shows you need a valium. |

TriadSte
Thr33lance Incorp
10
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Posted - 2011.10.08 11:43:00 -
[7] - Quote
Disagree totally, simply because Hilmar pretty much promised excellence from here on in. Then this happens?
No communication from CCP at all...
When I read something promising that the crap has stopped from a CEO I expect him to not lie to me, as that letter is personal to each and every player.
For the server to fart 5 minutes early and get no explanation is 100% wrong in my book. A GM or DEV should have had an announcement up on the boards as soon as those boards were viewable.
We were promised great communication and what we get is seriously poor communication. |

oematoema
The Muppet Show
22
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Posted - 2011.10.08 11:44:00 -
[8] - Quote
[signature] Statement on behalf of CCP from Arnar Hrafn Gylfason, Senior Producer for EVE Online. Good communication and trust between CCP and the EVE community has always been a fundamental priority for CCP and will continue to be so. |

Nebula Terron
Wolf's in Sheep's Clothing
4
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Posted - 2011.10.08 11:48:00 -
[9] - Quote
TriadSte wrote:Disagree totally, simply because Hilmar pretty much promised excellence from here on in. Then this happens?
No communication from CCP at all...
When I read something promising that the crap has stopped from a CEO I expect him to not lie to me, as that letter is personal to each and every player.
For the server to fart 5 minutes early and get no explanation is 100% wrong in my book. A GM or DEV should have had an announcement up on the boards as soon as those boards were viewable.
We were promised great communication and what we get is seriously poor communication.
I rather have them work on the server to fix it and get it running again, then come here and write a post about what they think is the reason why it is still offline.
|

Alex Sinai
Mining And Probing Specialists
46
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Posted - 2011.10.08 11:51:00 -
[10] - Quote
Nebula Terron wrote:I rather have them work on the server to fix it and get it running again, then come here and write a post about what they think is the reason why it is still offline.
I rather have them come here and explain what happened which would be good for community. These who keep the server online and these who write programs aren't the same people. So don't bullshit us. Thanks. |

Lirael Dyrim
In Bacon We Trust
2
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Posted - 2011.10.08 11:53:00 -
[11] - Quote
Just use your eyes, if you can't log in, you can't log in. Go have a **** and a cup of tea or something. |

Hroya
8
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Posted - 2011.10.08 11:56:00 -
[12] - Quote
Alex Sinai wrote:Nebula Terron wrote:I rather have them work on the server to fix it and get it running again, then come here and write a post about what they think is the reason why it is still offline.
I rather have them come here and explain what happened which would be good for community. These who keep the server online and these who write programs aren't the same people. So don't bullshit us. Thanks.
Optional GM reply:
"We're looking into it."
Your car doesnt start and right off the bat you know exactly why it didnt.
You may assume or expect them to hand you any relevant info once it is known. Apart from that, stop yapping demands and play your "i have rights" card elsewhere.
|

Ammzi
Imperial Guardians Blazing Angels Alliance
38
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Posted - 2011.10.08 11:57:00 -
[13] - Quote
Starting up! |

Nikkov
Kai-Zen inc.
0
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Posted - 2011.10.08 11:58:00 -
[14] - Quote
bitchin' about 5 minutes... Meanwhile banks are changing you 11% interest on that eve subscription you just paid with your credit card. Said bank got a **** load of people homeless and got paid billions of bucks of YOUR tax money... i don't see you bitchin' about that...
oh while we are at it...
can I haz ur stuff? |

Solstice Project
Cult of Personality
38
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Posted - 2011.10.08 11:58:00 -
[15] - Quote
TriadSte wrote:We deserve an answer!
Nope. You don't deserve anything, except maybe a slap in your face for behaving like a stupid little kid. |

Dean Austrene
Deep Space Shai Hulud
0
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Posted - 2011.10.08 11:58:00 -
[16] - Quote
And then failed |

Abrazzar
159
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Posted - 2011.10.08 11:58:00 -
[17] - Quote
TUXFOOOOOOOOORD !!!! Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. |

Kokochu Korguz
Veto. Veto Corp
1
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Posted - 2011.10.08 11:59:00 -
[18] - Quote
TriadSte wrote:Disagree totally, simply because Hilmar pretty much promised excellence from here on in. Then this happens? We were promised great communication and what we get is seriously poor communication.
1. Devs look at cause of error 2. Devs make sure they understand cause 3. Devs fix error 4. Community team stays the hell out of the Devs hair while this is happening instead of hovering by their desks or sending a mail every five seconds asking "what the hell just happened?" 5. When everything's back to normal, Devs tell Community team what happened and what they did to fix it 6. Community team makes sure they understand what they just got told 7. Community team tells the players and answers questions
A workflow other than that leads to snap statements, muddled facts and rumour mills grinding away into the wee hours of the morning. Demanding answers like you are doing just makes you look like a spoilt brat |

Alex Sinai
Mining And Probing Specialists
46
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Posted - 2011.10.08 11:59:00 -
[19] - Quote
Hroya wrote:Alex Sinai wrote:Nebula Terron wrote:I rather have them work on the server to fix it and get it running again, then come here and write a post about what they think is the reason why it is still offline.
I rather have them come here and explain what happened which would be good for community. These who keep the server online and these who write programs aren't the same people. So don't bullshit us. Thanks. Optional GM reply: "We're looking into it." Your car doesnt start and right off the bat you know exactly why it didnt. You may assume or expect them to hand you any relevant info once it is known. Apart from that, stop yapping demands and play your "i have rights" card elsewhere.
If that would be free to play game then you would be right. As for subscription game i do have rights and CCP do have responsibilities. So go play your "cards" elsewhere with this approach. |

Li'ari Chenowa
Caldari Industrial Academy Thundering Herd
0
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Posted - 2011.10.08 11:59:00 -
[20] - Quote
There is a sticky up about the reboot... |

Solstice Project
Cult of Personality
38
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Posted - 2011.10.08 11:59:00 -
[21] - Quote
Lirael Dyrim wrote:Just use your eyes, if you can't log in, you can't log in. Go have a **** and a cup of tea or something.
You REALLY believe sex is an option for this guy ?
I DON'T THINK SO ! *lol* |

Ammzi
Imperial Guardians Blazing Angels Alliance
38
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Posted - 2011.10.08 12:00:00 -
[22] - Quote
Not accepting connections :( |

Hamar Dijox
Dijox Clan
3
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Posted - 2011.10.08 12:01:00 -
[23] - Quote
Alex Sinai wrote:[...] As for subscription game i do have rights [...]
really, we have? never read about something like rights of the customer... |

Dean Austrene
Deep Space Shai Hulud
0
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Posted - 2011.10.08 12:02:00 -
[24] - Quote
Ok try again |

Kblackjack54
Mercurialis Inc. RAZOR Alliance
6
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Posted - 2011.10.08 12:03:00 -
[25] - Quote
With much raging and threats to release another' Heart rending excusemail' CCP Hillmar has been cattle prodded into the hamster wheel and is just now getting it upto speed, assitance provided by three...I repeat no less than three, Shocky Monkeys, as such EVE will be back on line very shortly.
Disclaimer: NO SHOCKY MONKEYS WERE HURT IN THIS EXERCISE.
P.s. though they did complain that the sight of CCP Hilmarr's arse wobble was very off putting, they have been compensated. |

Alex Sinai
Mining And Probing Specialists
46
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Posted - 2011.10.08 12:06:00 -
[26] - Quote
Kokochu Korguz wrote:TriadSte wrote:Disagree totally, simply because Hilmar pretty much promised excellence from here on in. Then this happens? We were promised great communication and what we get is seriously poor communication. 1. Devs look at cause of error 2. Devs make sure they understand cause 3. Devs fix error 4. Community team stays the hell out of the Devs hair while this is happening instead of hovering by their desks or sending a mail every five seconds asking "what the hell just happened?"5. When everything's back to normal, Devs tell Community team what happened and what they did to fix it 6. Community team makes sure they understand what they just got told 7. Community team tells the players and answers questions A workflow other than that leads to snap statements, muddled facts and rumour mills grinding away into the wee hours of the morning. Demanding answers like you are doing just makes you look like a spoilt brat
Lets take this approach to a banking system:
1. You have a charge of 1000$ off your account 2. Bank says nothing and not even answer your calls 3. May be bank fix this 4. Bank representatives still not replying to you at all, you hit the busy or no answer when calling. 5. You see a chargeback of 1000$ to your account 6. Bank makes sure they wont repeat it 7. You receive a call from bank rep saying that its ok now.
How does that sounds buddy? You would go ballistic until point 7 reached at all and probably would change your bank by that time. Exaggerate to absurd to understand the situation, not excuse lame approach to customer service or they will continue to degrade in it. It's already "half automated messaging" for GM replies. Want more? |

Nikkov
Kai-Zen inc.
0
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Posted - 2011.10.08 12:06:00 -
[27] - Quote
Alex Sinai wrote:Hroya wrote:Alex Sinai wrote:Nebula Terron wrote:I rather have them work on the server to fix it and get it running again, then come here and write a post about what they think is the reason why it is still offline.
I rather have them come here and explain what happened which would be good for community. These who keep the server online and these who write programs aren't the same people. So don't bullshit us. Thanks. Optional GM reply: "We're looking into it." Your car doesnt start and right off the bat you know exactly why it didnt. You may assume or expect them to hand you any relevant info once it is known. Apart from that, stop yapping demands and play your "i have rights" card elsewhere. If that would be free to play game then you would be right. As for subscription game i do have rights and CCP do have responsibilities. So go play your "cards" elsewhere with this approach.
Humm he has a point there...
You have the right to remain a **** Anything you say can and will be answered by trolls.... that are smarter than you.. and are not cunts |

Brooks Puuntai
Nomadic Asylum KUGUTSUMEN.
164
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Posted - 2011.10.08 12:08:00 -
[28] - Quote
Now I'm all for calling out CCPs mistakes and all. However a 5min early DT is something thats not even worth it. I mean honestly you seem like the type that would whine if the server went down for :shocking: 2 minutes, and expect a written apology and SP from CCP.
Edit: Also the only "right" you have as a customer is too unsubscribe. |

Kokochu Korguz
Veto. Veto Corp
1
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Posted - 2011.10.08 12:11:00 -
[29] - Quote
Alex Sinai wrote:Lets take this approach to a banking system
Equating a glitch in an internet spaceship game to a failure in a banking system. Wow. You definitely have a well balanced view on life my good sir. Do you also demand answers when the 10:32 to Luton shows up at 10:34? When the pickle slice in your cheeseburger is 2.7cm in diameter instead of the regulation 3cm? 
|

isk4trade
Cogitation Mining and Industrial Trading
0
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Posted - 2011.10.08 12:12:00 -
[30] - Quote
From the TOS
4. Modifications to Web Site. CCP reserves the right to modify or discontinue, temporarily or permanently, the Web Site (or any part thereof) from time to time, for any or no reason and without notice. You agree that CCP shall not be liable to you or to any third party for any modification, suspension or discontinuance of the Web Site. The information and materials contained on the Web Site are subject to change. |

Alex Sinai
Mining And Probing Specialists
46
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Posted - 2011.10.08 12:13:00 -
[31] - Quote
Brooks Puuntai wrote:Now I'm all for calling out CCPs mistakes and all. However a 5min early DT is something thats not even worth it. I mean honestly you seem like the type that would whine if the server went down for :shocking: 2 minutes, and expect a written apology and SP from CCP.
Edit: Also the only "right" you have as a customer is too unsubscribe.
You new in game? 1 minute difference in any sector but High can be a very big one.
So stop making "smart" statements before you laughed at more then already is. |

Alex Sinai
Mining And Probing Specialists
46
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Posted - 2011.10.08 12:15:00 -
[32] - Quote
Kokochu Korguz wrote:Alex Sinai wrote:Lets take this approach to a banking system Equating a glitch in an internet spaceship game to a failure in a banking system. Wow. You definitely have a well balanced view on life my good sir. Do you also demand answers when the 10:32 to Luton shows up at 10:34? When the pickle slice in your cheeseburger is 2.7cm in diameter instead of the regulation 3cm? 
If that game would be F2P i wouldn't even care. I pay for their service and i expect them to provide the service. If they cant do so for any reason i expect them to at very least inform their paying customers why not.
And with your approach it is no wonder their customer services departments behave like they do. You allow it to them so why not if you ready to be ass kicked and come back for more. |

Kokochu Korguz
Veto. Veto Corp
1
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Posted - 2011.10.08 12:18:00 -
[33] - Quote
Alex Sinai wrote:If that game would be F2P i wouldn't even care. I pay for their service and i expect them to provide the service. If they cant do so for any reason i expect them to at very least inform their paying customers why not.
And with your approach it is no wonder their customer services departments behave like they do. You allow it to them so why not if you ready to be ass kicked and come back for more.
You're boring me now. Have fun in your orderly life where you get everything you pay for and your study is wallpapered with the contrite, sincere apologies from the many corporate bodies who dare to slightly deviate from the promised product or service you subscribe to. The rest of us will be over here enjoying ourselves. Ta ta now. |

Dorian Wylde
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
21
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Posted - 2011.10.08 12:19:00 -
[34] - Quote
TriadSte wrote:Would be very nice to have. Especially after Hilmars blog about getting it right from here on in.
I think we deserve a damn answer?
No, you really don't. It's been said a million times, and it's in the EULA. Sometimes sh!t happens. Deal with it. Or stop playing. You're already acting pretty childish just by making this post, might as well threaten to quit over something this insignificant too. |

Li'ari Chenowa
Caldari Industrial Academy Thundering Herd
0
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Posted - 2011.10.08 12:21:00 -
[35] - Quote
Here's your reply, it's been there for a bit now, quit your crying, it's a game for Christ's sake.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=18973&find=unread or here https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=18959&p=3 |

Brooks Puuntai
Nomadic Asylum KUGUTSUMEN.
164
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Posted - 2011.10.08 12:22:00 -
[36] - Quote
Alex Sinai wrote:Brooks Puuntai wrote:Now I'm all for calling out CCPs mistakes and all. However a 5min early DT is something thats not even worth it. I mean honestly you seem like the type that would whine if the server went down for :shocking: 2 minutes, and expect a written apology and SP from CCP.
Edit: Also the only "right" you have as a customer is too unsubscribe. You new in game? 1 minute difference in any sector but High can be a very big one. So stop making "smart" statements before you laughed at more then already is.
Yes I'm brand new the game and have no idea wtf is going on, you caught me.
|

Nebula Terron
Wolf's in Sheep's Clothing
5
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Posted - 2011.10.08 13:00:00 -
[37] - Quote
Alex Sinai wrote:Kokochu Korguz wrote:Alex Sinai wrote:Lets take this approach to a banking system Equating a glitch in an internet spaceship game to a failure in a banking system. Wow. You definitely have a well balanced view on life my good sir. Do you also demand answers when the 10:32 to Luton shows up at 10:34? When the pickle slice in your cheeseburger is 2.7cm in diameter instead of the regulation 3cm?  If that game would be F2P i wouldn't even care. I pay for their service and i expect them to provide the service. If they cant do so for any reason i expect them to at very least inform their paying customers why not. And with your approach it is no wonder their customer services departments behave like they do. You allow it to them so why not if you ready to be ass kicked and come back for more.
You have the "right" to pay them to play their game. If they want to switch the servers off for 2 hours, they have the right to do so. All you can do about it is pay and play or do not pay and don't play. |

Nandy Cocytus
Pandemonium Private Consultants LLC
8
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Posted - 2011.10.08 13:42:00 -
[38] - Quote
Are you Tea Party? You sound like one of them. So it goes. |

Kengutsi Akira
21
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Posted - 2011.10.08 13:44:00 -
[39] - Quote
TriadSte wrote:Disagree totally, simply because Hilmar pretty much promised excellence from here on in. Then this happens?
No communication from CCP at all...
When I read something promising that the crap has stopped from a CEO I expect him to not lie to me, as that letter is personal to each and every player.
For the server to fart 5 minutes early and get no explanation is 100% wrong in my book. A GM or DEV should have had an announcement up on the boards as soon as those boards were viewable.
We were promised great communication and what we get is seriously poor communication.
wow... im holding back my praise till I see some results but this guy is a hard core entitled crybaby Or a troll |

Dean Austrene
Deep Space Shai Hulud
0
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Posted - 2011.10.08 14:50:00 -
[40] - Quote
So what's the excuse now? |

Imperium Romanus
Paxton Industries Gentlemen's Agreement
3
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Posted - 2011.10.08 14:54:00 -
[41] - Quote
Disk failure apparently. I like CCP's inability to perform a hardware update without having a weeks worth of emergency reboots.
Methinks CCP should invest in more skilled Datacenter staff rather than the server monkeys they have now. |

Barakkus
743
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Posted - 2011.10.08 15:10:00 -
[42] - Quote
Read the stickies if you want an answer from CCP, you seem to have missed the announcements: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=19018&find=unread
There's your dev response, now quit whining. |

Alex Sinai
Mining And Probing Specialists
46
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Posted - 2011.10.08 15:16:00 -
[43] - Quote
Excellent communication from CCP :) I like they improving rapidly comparing to a few months ago. That causes huge boost of confidence in CCP. |

Dean Austrene
Deep Space Shai Hulud
1
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Posted - 2011.10.08 15:19:00 -
[44] - Quote
Reimbursement policy states
Potential or theoretical gain is not eligible for reimbursement. Only assets lost when already in possession of the player are eligible for reimbursement.
Does this mean the hulk I might have bought to mine the ABC's I might have found might not be reimbursed. Damn |

BeanBagKing
Terra Incognita Intrepid Crossing
7
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Posted - 2011.10.08 15:19:00 -
[45] - Quote
Vachir Khan wrote:Stop whining.
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Imagonem
Black Bag Ops
0
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Posted - 2011.10.08 15:22:00 -
[46] - Quote
Less then 5 hrs left on pos fuel, check. Person to blame found, check. Probing like a mutherF to find a 5 jump path with a critical in the middle leading in, check. jumping into lowsec with fuel, warp to entry ... not warping, strange... warp again... nope. check.
. . . This does not bode well. |

Ruxmark
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2011.10.08 16:34:00 -
[47] - Quote
at this rate they may get the game up by the end of the weekend. |

Barbelo Valentinian
The Scope Gallente Federation
57
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Posted - 2011.10.08 16:50:00 -
[48] - Quote
There is server upness
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CCP Zymurgist
C C P C C P Alliance
180

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Posted - 2011.10.08 17:04:00 -
[49] - Quote
The early downtime and delayed start up was most likely related to the emergency downtime we just experienced. Everything should be in order now and we are continuing to monitor TQ for any issues. Zymurgist Community Representative CCP NA, EVE Online Contact Us at http://support.eveonline.com/pages/petitions/createpetition.aspx |
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Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
87
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Posted - 2011.10.08 17:08:00 -
[50] - Quote
FREE SP should be in order.
After all the huff puf about caring about your customers, so start sharing some SP love.
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Zuteh
Infinite Improbability Inc
0
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Posted - 2011.10.08 17:13:00 -
[51] - Quote
Miilla wrote:FREE SP should be in order.
After all the huff puf about caring about your customers, so start sharing some SP love.
This, if you are sorry for the downtime then show it. I demand reparations. |

Tanya Powers
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
9
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Posted - 2011.10.08 17:16:00 -
[52] - Quote
CCP Zymurgist wrote:The early downtime and delayed start up was most likely related to the emergency downtime we just experienced. Everything should be in order now and we are continuing to monitor TQ for any issues.
Well, I just had some extra time to do RL stuff instead of staying stuck like a nerd in front of my pc raging after you because servers were down.
It's getting cold by here but that ride out was awesome and refreshing. Thx
PS: send me THA mug ! -you know the one with big tities and tatoo "Eve On Line" on the right one and "This is real" on the left one.
Please?
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Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
87
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Posted - 2011.10.08 17:18:00 -
[53] - Quote
Eve is dying, they had to send out the student to buy some bats to beat the dead donkey back to life :) |

Jayem See
Drama Llamas
4
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Posted - 2011.10.08 17:19:00 -
[54] - Quote
Miilla wrote:FREE SP should be in order.
After all the huff puf about caring about your customers, so start sharing some SP love.
Oh **** off. |

Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
87
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Posted - 2011.10.08 18:10:00 -
[55] - Quote
Jayem See wrote:Miilla wrote:FREE SP should be in order.
After all the huff puf about caring about your customers, so start sharing some SP love.
Oh **** off.
Shant, I refuse :)
What ya gona do? Stamp your feet?
|

Zagdul
Clan Shadow Wolf Fatal Ascension
46
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Posted - 2011.10.08 20:28:00 -
[56] - Quote
Imagonem wrote:Less then 5 hrs left on pos fuel, check. Person to blame found, check. Probing like a mutherF to find a 5 jump path with a critical in the middle leading in, check. jumping into lowsec with fuel, warp to entry ... not warping, strange... warp again... nope. check.
. . . This does not bode well.
Shoulda fueled the pos when you got your 24 hour notice... or, learn to time your pos's and fuel them before you get warnings.
It's not Rocket Surgery |

Denidil
The Graduates Morsus Mihi
106
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Posted - 2011.10.08 21:04:00 -
[57] - Quote
Imperium Romanus wrote:Disk failure apparently. I like CCP's inability to perform a hardware update without having a weeks worth of emergency reboots.
Methinks CCP should invest in more skilled Datacenter staff rather than the server monkeys they have now.
you do know that harddrives that get extensive use can just up and fail right?
of course you don't know that, because you're a bleeding jackass. Anyone who is blue to DRF are cowards and have failed Eve.
MM Bombers, Best Bombers |

Herping yourDerp
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
128
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Posted - 2011.10.09 00:00:00 -
[58] - Quote
OMG SERVER DOWN FOR A FEW HOURS I DEMAND ALL 3000 SP I WOULD HAVE GOTTEN... seriously. |

Bienator II
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
173
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Posted - 2011.10.09 00:38:00 -
[59] - Quote
Denidil wrote:Imperium Romanus wrote:Disk failure apparently. I like CCP's inability to perform a hardware update without having a weeks worth of emergency reboots.
Methinks CCP should invest in more skilled Datacenter staff rather than the server monkeys they have now. you do know that harddrives that get extensive use can just up and fail right? you know the concept of RAID?
You fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail to jump because you are cloaked |

Joe Skellington
Caldari Elite Force Apocalypse Now.
12
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Posted - 2011.10.09 00:58:00 -
[60] - Quote
Bienator II wrote:Denidil wrote:Imperium Romanus wrote:Disk failure apparently. I like CCP's inability to perform a hardware update without having a weeks worth of emergency reboots.
Methinks CCP should invest in more skilled Datacenter staff rather than the server monkeys they have now. you do know that harddrives that get extensive use can just up and fail right? you know the concept of RAID?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Storage_area_network -á-á |\_/|-á -á/ @ @ \ -á-á -á( > -¦ < )-á -á`-+-+x-½-½-¦ -á-á / O \ |

Denidil
The Graduates Morsus Mihi
108
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Posted - 2011.10.09 01:40:00 -
[61] - Quote
Bienator II wrote:Denidil wrote:Imperium Romanus wrote:Disk failure apparently. I like CCP's inability to perform a hardware update without having a weeks worth of emergency reboots.
Methinks CCP should invest in more skilled Datacenter staff rather than the server monkeys they have now. you do know that harddrives that get extensive use can just up and fail right? you know the concept of RAID?
yeah, that's why there wasn't data loss.
online rebuilds are not always the best idea. and even if they did do an online rebuild it is probably a good idea to do a thorough check of all the systems.
why don't you shut the hell up and leave the technical stuff to people who actually understand server operations Anyone who is blue to DRF are cowards and have failed Eve.
MM Bombers, Best Bombers |

Ingvar Angst
Nasty Pope Holding Corp Talocan United
104
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Posted - 2011.10.09 03:42:00 -
[62] - Quote
Imagonem wrote:Less then 5 hrs left on pos fuel, check. ...
. . . ..
How can you live like that? I get twitchy when the fuel supply dips below three months. Six months in the hole... it changes a man. |

Draculina Alucardi
New.Lab.Era
3
|
Posted - 2011.10.09 03:55:00 -
[63] - Quote
oh a FOCKING 20 minutes ROLLBACK, SCREW IT! |

The Apostle
The Black Priests
211
|
Posted - 2011.10.09 04:10:00 -
[64] - Quote
Draculina Alucardi wrote:oh a FOCKING 20 minutes ROLLBACK, SCREW IT! Prefer it gets rolled forward 20 minutes instead? Take an aspirin. If pain persists consult your local priest. WTB: An Austrian kangaroo!
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Gornel Desse
Cytech Industries Inc
0
|
Posted - 2011.10.09 04:14:00 -
[65] - Quote
Wow, there are some really grade A+ certified A-holes in this thread. What makes you so entitled to demand an explanation for everything?
Whoever said it earlier was correct, the only rights you have (that you agreed to when you signed the terms of use crap that we never read) is to deal with whatever, and however, they want to run their servers. If you do not agree with you, the one thing you do have the right to do is stop giving them money.
They perform a service of giving you the chance to play a game, and if you are not happy with it, DO NOT PAY FOR THAT SERVICE.
Also, I know you are most likely going to try to attack my view points in some way, but the fact of the matter is, the truth hurts. and the truth is, you agreed to all the small type at sometime, and getting mad about it and demanding things, won't do a damn thing. |

Vult
Aliastra Gallente Federation
1
|
Posted - 2011.10.09 04:40:00 -
[66] - Quote
Miilla wrote:FREE SP should be in order.
After all the huff puf about caring about your customers, so start sharing some SP love.
Please stop speaking. For the rest of your life. |

Nandy Cocytus
Pandemonium Private Consultants LLC
16
|
Posted - 2011.10.09 05:13:00 -
[67] - Quote
Vult wrote:Miilla wrote:FREE SP should be in order.
After all the huff puf about caring about your customers, so start sharing some SP love.
Please stop speaking. For the rest of your life.
Miilla lives to complain. We can't stop it. It's like going up against the Staypuft Marshmellow Man with a butane torch.
So it goes. |

Lyrrashae
Crushed Ambitions
2
|
Posted - 2011.10.09 08:21:00 -
[68] - Quote
Miilla wrote:FREE SP should be in order.
After all the huff puf about caring about your customers, so start sharing some SP love.
 
Stop posting?
Will you please, in the Name of every God that ever was/is/will be, just stop posting? |

Datdaar Vanmestvaalt
Muggers Inc.
14
|
Posted - 2011.10.09 10:59:00 -
[69] - Quote
And it just happened again......
Second day in a row..... |

Will DestroyYou
0
|
Posted - 2011.10.09 11:07:00 -
[70] - Quote
It's hard enough trying to fit in a night of eve in australia without it having it cut shorter when your trying to rush in some last things before downtime. *sigh*
/me votes for staggerred downtime times. Its about time everyone else shared this annoying part of eve... or even better, find out the goons peak time and just let them crash it for you each day.
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Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
88
|
Posted - 2011.10.09 11:10:00 -
[71] - Quote
Is it working yet? |

RUSROG
Beasts of Burden
56
|
Posted - 2011.10.09 11:16:00 -
[72] - Quote
It's coming back on now, according to the loading screen.
-áE .-+ ` ' /-+. F
Your tears fuel me. And as always, have nice day. |

RUSROG
Beasts of Burden
56
|
Posted - 2011.10.09 11:16:00 -
[73] - Quote
It's up.
-áE .-+ ` ' /-+. F
Your tears fuel me. And as always, have nice day. |

Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
88
|
Posted - 2011.10.09 11:18:00 -
[74] - Quote
For how long? |

RUSROG
Beasts of Burden
56
|
Posted - 2011.10.09 11:19:00 -
[75] - Quote
Miilla wrote:For how long?
If the Icelandic starts align correctly...
-áE .-+ ` ' /-+. F
Your tears fuel me. And as always, have nice day. |

Alex Sinai
Mining And Probing Specialists
47
|
Posted - 2011.10.09 11:28:00 -
[76] - Quote
Yeah, it's up. I am missing 5 sisters probes. Not much but since it's already second day in a row and G-d knows if they decide to crash it again today. And i dont see any compensation in SP or whatever else for yesterday's crash and today's inconvenience of early DT. That becomes suspicious already. Crashes, early DTs and no compensations or courtesy gestures. What's happening with this game. |

Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
88
|
Posted - 2011.10.09 11:31:00 -
[77] - Quote
CCPCare+ Did you take out the coverage? |

TriadSte
Thr33lance Incorp
13
|
Posted - 2011.10.09 11:38:00 -
[78] - Quote
Gornel Desse wrote:Wow, there are some really grade A+ certified A-holes in this thread. What makes you so entitled to demand an explanation for everything?
Whoever said it earlier was correct, the only rights you have (that you agreed to when you signed the terms of use crap that we never read) is to deal with whatever, and however, they want to run their servers. If you do not agree with you, the one thing you do have the right to do is stop giving them money.
They perform a service of giving you the chance to play a game, and if you are not happy with it, DO NOT PAY FOR THAT SERVICE.
Also, I know you are most likely going to try to attack my view points in some way, but the fact of the matter is, the truth hurts. and the truth is, you agreed to all the small type at sometime, and getting mad about it and demanding things, won't do a damn thing.
Take that well browned nose from CCP rectum.
We are CCPs customers, therefore as paying customers we have an entitlement to customer service. Customer service can be looked on as explanations as to why the server keeps going down early without prior warning.
So you know, yes we are in fact entitled to an explanation. |

Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
88
|
Posted - 2011.10.09 11:40:00 -
[79] - Quote
CSM is doing NOTHING about getting SP for the exceptional unplanned downtime.
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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
37
|
Posted - 2011.10.09 11:45:00 -
[80] - Quote
Alex Sinai wrote:Yeah, it's up. I am missing 5 sisters probes. Not much but since it's already second day in a row and G-d knows if they decide to crash it again today. And i dont see any compensation in SP or whatever else for yesterday's crash and today's inconvenience of early DT. That becomes suspicious already. Crashes, early DTs and no compensations or courtesy gestures. What's happening with this game.
Just file a reimbursement petition for the probes. I had the same thing happen yesterday, filed the petition and the probes were quickly replaced. Now I'll have to do it again since the server shut down once again with 4 minutes left to countdown timer.
Both times I was just getting ready to recall the probes. From now on, I'll be recalling the probes before the countdown timer starts. |

Apollo Gabriel
Mercatoris Etherium Cartel
52
|
Posted - 2011.10.09 11:46:00 -
[81] - Quote
Get a douche, it helps remove sand from your vagina. |

TriadSte
Thr33lance Incorp
13
|
Posted - 2011.10.09 11:58:00 -
[82] - Quote
You'd know...
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Solstice Project
Cult of Personality
50
|
Posted - 2011.10.09 14:06:00 -
[83] - Quote
TriadSte wrote:Gornel Desse wrote:Wow, there are some really grade A+ certified A-holes in this thread. What makes you so entitled to demand an explanation for everything?
Whoever said it earlier was correct, the only rights you have (that you agreed to when you signed the terms of use crap that we never read) is to deal with whatever, and however, they want to run their servers. If you do not agree with you, the one thing you do have the right to do is stop giving them money.
They perform a service of giving you the chance to play a game, and if you are not happy with it, DO NOT PAY FOR THAT SERVICE.
Also, I know you are most likely going to try to attack my view points in some way, but the fact of the matter is, the truth hurts. and the truth is, you agreed to all the small type at sometime, and getting mad about it and demanding things, won't do a damn thing. Take that well browned nose from CCP rectum. We are CCPs customers, therefore as paying customers we have an entitlement to customer service. Customer service can be looked on as explanations as to why the server keeps going down early without prior warning. So you know, yes we are in fact entitled to an explanation.
Wrong.
You are - in no way ever - entitled to customer service. It's a service. They don't have to do it. Nope. Nada. Never ever.
That being said, it's totally good if they have one and it's even better if they communicate with the community ... but still ... no entitlement there.
*slaps your face hard* that's the only thing you can demand and probably get, too. |

Vult
Aliastra Gallente Federation
1
|
Posted - 2011.10.09 15:01:00 -
[84] - Quote
Miilla wrote:CSM is doing NOTHING about getting SP for the exceptional unplanned downtime.
I asked you nicely... please stop speaking. Permanently. Or if you can't do that, at least cancel your Eve accounts so our forums can be rid of a major but perfectly cureable form of cancer. Or even if you can't do that, at least do something stupid enough to get a permaban.
None of us with sound minds expect (to any high degree anyway) any SP compensation. The general consensus is that Hilmar's apology was not enough for most players so when action is seen, we will again start to believe.
To that end, CSM is not and should not be responsible for giving us free SP because the hamsters farted a few minutes before anticipated. Nor should they just dole out SP for anyone for any reason. Eve has been stable 99% of the time. There have been times after deployments of new expansions that Eve has just completely thrown a fit but i can't remember any situation where it was for more than 24 hours.
Now, Miila, please... never post again unless you have intelligence to bring to the table. |

Vak'ran
TUIG Inc.
53
|
Posted - 2011.10.09 15:08:00 -
[85] - Quote
I love these threads, the are a great opportunity to filter the whiners with entitlement problems from my forum experience. Thank you OP, and thank you 'hide posts' feature! Vak'Ran is your local unofficial non-dedicated part-time advocate of reading comprehension and proliferation of intelligence on the EVE Online Forums, offering advise and corrections of dubious quality since 2008. |

Esrevid Nekkeg
Justified and Ancient
54
|
Posted - 2011.10.11 11:01:00 -
[86] - Quote
Ok...... third time in three days the server goes down before the official DT. This time even before the countdown timer started. CCP? Any answer to the why? Here I used to have a sig of our old Camper in space. Now it is disregarded as being the wrong format. Looking out the window I see one thing: Nothing wrong with the format of our Camper! Silly CCP......
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Thebriwan
LUX Uls Xystus
12
|
Posted - 2011.10.11 11:48:00 -
[87] - Quote
Maybe one single node has a false system clock and is dragging the whole cluster with him...
But anyway: Please fix it (and we NEED a devblog with charts afterwards!)  |

Matt Douglass
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
0
|
Posted - 2011.10.11 12:33:00 -
[88] - Quote
Alex Sinai wrote:
Lets take this approach to a banking system:
You fail at life. This is a game bro. Don't compare downtime worth possible a couple of dollar-cents (dividing monthly fee by hours downtime) to a real 1000 dollar dissapearance where the bank can make money with. Furthermore, CCP has already in the past reimbursed prolonged downtime with skillpoints additions. Stop whining, mr. FirstWorldProblems.
Alex Sinai wrote:
Yadda yadda rant bank-example - rant rant I-dont-know-****-about-IT
How does that sounds buddy? You would go ballistic until point 7 reached at all and probably would change your bank by that time. Exaggerate to absurd to understand the situation, not excuse lame approach to customer service or they will continue to degrade in it. It's already "half automated messaging" for GM replies. Want more?
You sir, are an arrogant prick.
Sincerely GTFO,
Matt.
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Skippermonkey
Tactical Knightmare
88
|
Posted - 2011.10.11 13:55:00 -
[89] - Quote
Matt Douglass wrote: You sir, are an arrogant prick.
Sincerely GTFO,
Matt.
LOL U MAD |

Matt Douglass
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
0
|
Posted - 2011.10.11 14:03:00 -
[90] - Quote
Skippermonkey wrote:Matt Douglass wrote: You sir, are an arrogant prick.
Sincerely GTFO,
Matt.
LOL U MAD
nah bro you misinterpreted, mr. sinai ismadbro =p |

Skippermonkey
Tactical Knightmare
88
|
Posted - 2011.10.11 14:06:00 -
[91] - Quote
Matt Douglass wrote:Skippermonkey wrote:Matt Douglass wrote: You sir, are an arrogant prick.
Sincerely GTFO,
Matt.
LOL U MAD nah bro you misinterpreted, mr. sinai ismadbro =p
NO U |

Nandy Cocytus
Pandemonium Private Consultants LLC
17
|
Posted - 2011.10.11 14:13:00 -
[92] - Quote
Skippermonkey wrote:Matt Douglass wrote:Skippermonkey wrote:Matt Douglass wrote: You sir, are an arrogant prick.
Sincerely GTFO,
Matt.
LOL U MAD nah bro you misinterpreted, mr. sinai ismadbro =p NO U
I can't tell if he's trolling or throwing an actual tantrum. Probably trolling.
So it goes. |

Matt Douglass
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
0
|
Posted - 2011.10.11 14:13:00 -
[93] - Quote
Skippermonkey wrote:Matt Douglass wrote:Skippermonkey wrote:Matt Douglass wrote: You sir, are an arrogant prick.
Sincerely GTFO,
Matt.
LOL U MAD nah bro you misinterpreted, mr. sinai ismadbro =p NO U
LOL HE MAD
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