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Some Rando
University of Caille Gallente Federation
621
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Posted - 2013.01.04 17:24:00 -
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I keep seeing that definition thrown around:
"EVE should cater to casual players" "I'm more of a casual player" "EVE doesn't appeal to casual players"
Is this some code-phrase for carebear? I consider myself a casual player, maybe getting two or three hours of play in roughly three days a week and, while I do my share of bearing, I also enjoy some small gang and solo PvP.
I'd hate to think that actual casual players of EVE get lumped into the same category as 23.5/7 AFK ice mining carebears who don't PvP. |
Nexus Day
Lustrevik Trade and Travel Bureau
339
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Posted - 2013.01.04 17:28:00 -
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Stop worrying so much about how other people play the game and you might enjoy EvE even more than you do now. |
Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
1104
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Posted - 2013.01.04 17:30:00 -
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Nexus Day wrote:Stop worrying so much about how other people play the game and you might enjoy EvE even more than you do now.
Damn that was quick, only 1 post in and the "play style" crap starts.
If you can't answer the OP's question, why did you feel this overwhelming urge to post what amounts to nothing?
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Ginger Barbarella
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
1059
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Posted - 2013.01.04 17:31:00 -
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Nexus Day wrote:Stop worrying so much about how other people play the game and you might enjoy EvE even more than you do now.
This. "Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." -á --- Sorlac |
Ginger Barbarella
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
1059
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Posted - 2013.01.04 17:32:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Nexus Day wrote:Stop worrying so much about how other people play the game and you might enjoy EvE even more than you do now. Damn that was quick, only 1 post in and the "play style" crap starts. If you can't answer the OP's question, why did you feel this overwhelming urge to post what amounts to nothing?
"Pot, this is Kettle." "Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." -á --- Sorlac |
Grimpak
Midnight Elites Echelon Rising
683
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Posted - 2013.01.04 17:32:00 -
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Nexus Day wrote:Stop worrying so much about how other people play the game and you might enjoy EvE even more than you do now. this really. [img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img]
[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right |
Some Rando
University of Caille Gallente Federation
621
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Posted - 2013.01.04 17:33:00 -
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Nexus Day wrote:Stop worrying so much about how other people play the game and you might enjoy EvE even more than you do now. The entitlement started early, I guess I'll have to settle for no answer to my question. Welp. |
Karrl Tian
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
137
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Posted - 2013.01.04 17:33:00 -
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Some Rando wrote:
I'd hate to think that actual casual players of EVE get lumped into the same category as 23.5/7 AFK ice mining carebears who don't PvP.
Nah, it's just lazy poopsockers looking for a handout by wanting to use casuals as a shield. |
Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
1105
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Posted - 2013.01.04 17:38:00 -
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Some Rando wrote:I keep seeing that definition thrown around:
"EVE should cater to casual players" "I'm more of a casual player" "EVE doesn't appeal to casual players"
Is this some code-phrase for carebear? I consider myself a casual player, maybe getting two or three hours of play in roughly three days a week and, while I do my share of bearing, I also enjoy some small gang and solo PvP.
I'd hate to think that actual casual players of EVE get lumped into the same category as 23.5/7 AFK ice mining carebears who don't PvP.
To answer your question, a casual player is someone who plays casually, as opposed to someone who plays while sitting at their computer in a suit and tie. I too play casually, usually naked except for socks ,which is why I'm known for my "ballsy" game play and forum posting.....
Ok, serious answer, yea, "casual" get lumped in with "carebears" sometimes and that's a mistake. Nothing wrong with playing eve casually, that is until that casual player comes to think that the entire game should then somehow be changed from bottom to top to suit their wants and needs regardless of what everyone else wants.
As long as "casuals" accept that EVE is what it is (ie a pretty sick hardcore game), I have no problems with them or anyone else. |
Some Rando
University of Caille Gallente Federation
622
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Posted - 2013.01.04 17:41:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:As long as "casuals" accept that EVE is what it is (ie a pretty sick hardcore game), I have no problems with them or anyone else. See, that's what I get, too. I'm casual. I'm not going to make oodles of space-cash and run a null-sec empire, nor do I think I'm entitled to my own little "fortress of solitude" out in GOON space. I'm space-poor. My PvP will never be a feature on eve-kill. |
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Raptors Mole
The Pheasant Pluckers
60
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Posted - 2013.01.04 17:45:00 -
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If you plan your RL life around EvE, fantasize about your avatar/KillBoard/ISK - you are not Casual.
If you fit EvE in around job, family, sex, beer, friends and shower on a regular basis - congratulations you are Casual.
Oh and I think EvE caters to both Hardcore smelly types and non virgins alike. Gaining skills is done at the same basic rate so a plus there for EvE.
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gfldex
650
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Posted - 2013.01.04 17:48:00 -
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Let me translate.
Some Rando wrote: "EVE should cater to casual players"
I'm a marketing person who get himself wrong as a game designer and I want to earn more dollares from players that don't really have time to play games. I will sell objects that don't really exist or want to sell currency that doesn't really exists, what will get me in trouble with banking authorities.
Some Rando wrote: "I'm more of a casual player"
I'm a bad player. If I would spend more dollares on the game I would not be broke all the time.
Some Rando wrote: "EVE doesn't appeal to casual players"
I'm a bad player who has just seen a friend being driven out of the game by a good player. Both my friend and I would not be broke or being driven out of the game if we would be spending more dollares on the game.
If you take all the sand out of the box, only the cat poo will remain. |
Raptors Mole
The Pheasant Pluckers
62
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Posted - 2013.01.04 17:56:00 -
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gfldex wrote:Let me translate. Some Rando wrote: "EVE should cater to casual players"
I'm a marketing person who get himself wrong as a game designer and I want to earn more dollares from players that don't really have time to play games. I will sell objects that don't really exist or want to sell currency that doesn't really exists, what will get me in trouble with banking authorities. Some Rando wrote: "I'm more of a casual player"
I'm a bad player. If I would spend more dollares on the game I would not be broke all the time. Some Rando wrote: "EVE doesn't appeal to casual players"
I'm a bad player who has just seen a friend being driven out of the game by a good player. Both my friend and I would not be broke or being driven out of the game if we would be spending more dollares on the game.
I sure there are players who think like that. Not that many though. My last Corp was mostly casual players, and is doing very well in terms of ISK, Pew, fun and membership.
Pretty sure you need a shower though
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Portia Venetia
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2013.01.04 17:59:00 -
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In the context of EVE, I think "casual" is best defined by two factors: First, the number of characters/accounts a player puts online at once, and second; the amount of contiguous time they can play.
I consider myself very casual, probably bordering on something most people would call super-casual. Just one account to work with, and on weekdays I login perhaps 10-30 minutes a day (usually to engage in market activity). On weekends, I can manage a bit more contiguous time (2 to 3 hours on one day), so I can do other things, but even that is constrained by time. Activities in EVE consume time like few other games, and the level of planning required means I can plan and execute one activity and then it's done.
High-sec mining is the fastest activity to execute, IMO; I can walk into or out of that in minutes. PvP is usually the slowest; putting a ship together, getting into the empty JC, then tripping over to low-sec and looking for fights. I could walk face-first into a gate camp and speed things up, but that still wouldn't save the time of putting a ship together (the same applies to high-sec ganking). The next slowest would be missions (again, in high-sec). They seem to drag on forever.
No matter what I select though, it's usually just one thing for the session and then I'm out of time.
I'd actually love to know the opposite answer to this question; how much time do the "hardcore" players pour into this game. I can't imagine being online for something like 8 hours straight, but I'm sure there's people that do. |
Kirith Vespira
Matar Deep Space Ventures 1121 Ventures
29
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Posted - 2013.01.04 18:01:00 -
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Some Rando wrote:I keep seeing that definition thrown around:
"EVE should cater to casual players" "I'm more of a casual player" "EVE doesn't appeal to casual players"
Is this some code-phrase for carebear? I consider myself a casual player, maybe getting two or three hours of play in roughly three days a week and, while I do my share of bearing, I also enjoy some small gang and solo PvP.
I'd hate to think that actual casual players of EVE get lumped into the same category as 23.5/7 AFK ice mining carebears who don't PvP.
"casual player" is a lot like the "carebear" slur... it's flung to be demeaning most of the time.
I have a career (full time), do web development on the side, and am working at building a new business to get me out of the day job. I play when I can; sometimes it's maintaining PI at work, sometimes it's coming home to play for 2-3 hours a night, more on weekends. I do NOT have entire weeks or months off, I do NOT have mommy and daddy paying my way in life, I do NOT mine or mission for 6, 8, 12 hours at a time, and I do NOT set my alarm clock to take part in COAs on any of my alts.
Is that casual?? Well it sure as hell ain't the opposite. Maybe you guys should concentrate on those that habitually spent HOURS ON END sitting in front of the computer (students, unemployed, those addicted to this stuff, etc) and less time worrying about those of us that remember that it's a GAME and not a way of life. Just a thought. |
Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
1108
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Posted - 2013.01.04 18:03:00 -
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Some Rando wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:As long as "casuals" accept that EVE is what it is (ie a pretty sick hardcore game), I have no problems with them or anyone else. See, that's what I get, too. I'm casual. I'm not going to make oodles of space-cash and run a null-sec empire, nor do I think I'm entitled to my own little "fortress of solitude" out in GOON space. I'm space-poor. My PvP will never be a feature on eve-kill.
And I honestly think most casual think like you, as do most players (like me) who would be called "carebears" because we like PVE. It's that vocal but small minority of space faring welfare queens who want the game (and the whole real life world) to cater to them rather than them adapting themselves to it that gives "casuals and carebears" a bad name.
They are the ones who will claim we hate them because of how they play. I don't hate them because of how they play, I hate them for who they ARE .
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Randolph Rothstein
whatever corp.
294
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Posted - 2013.01.04 18:07:00 -
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im casual player
now bow down in front of my greatness peasants |
Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
678
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Posted - 2013.01.04 18:10:00 -
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Nexus Day wrote:Stop worrying so much about how other people play the game and you might enjoy EvE even more than you do now.
And you've just defined casual player: Someone who is more interested in what they're doing themselves than in what other people are doing. EvE Forum Bingo |
BORRIS DEMONTFORD
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
5
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Posted - 2013.01.04 18:12:00 -
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Paying 9.99 a month to train skills is pretty casual. |
Cindare
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8
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Posted - 2013.01.04 18:39:00 -
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Hundred hour weeks, Keeping up with the Joneses -- Hardcore Casual |
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Metal Icarus
Legion Of Idiots legion of extraordinary Idi0ts
482
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Posted - 2013.01.04 19:36:00 -
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a casual player is a person that spends 40 hours a week NOT playing Eve. |
Kestrix
Industrial Renaissance MinTek Conglomerate
53
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Posted - 2013.01.04 19:47:00 -
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Some Rando wrote: Is this some code-phrase for carebear?
Care bare is a derogatory term used by PvP'ers when describing anyone who has a play style that differs from there own. |
Flakey Foont
195
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Posted - 2013.01.04 19:49:00 -
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Pretty much a casual player plays to relax and have fun. It is a game after all.
In my opinion of course. |
Tarvos Telesto
Blood Fanatics
697
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Posted - 2013.01.04 19:50:00 -
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Metal Icarus wrote:a casual player is a person that spends 40 hours a week NOT playing Eve.
This.
Also somone who never read DG topics like OP therad or mine, and even these people visits EvE site they spent on it like 10min long per week just to read about game news, dev blogs, etc. EvE isn't game, its style of living. |
Alphax45
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
14
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Posted - 2013.01.04 19:55:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote: To answer your question, a casual player is someone who plays casually, as opposed to someone who plays while sitting at their computer in a suit and tie. I too play casually, usually naked except for socks ,which is why I'm known for my "ballsy" game play and forum posting.....
I thought I was the only one that played like this :)
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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
1360
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Posted - 2013.01.04 20:49:00 -
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Im a casual player. I dont dress up, I dont mind my table manners in front of the screen and i frequently talk on TS with my mouth full. I tried playing Eve totally formal once all dressed up in a tuxedo, but I had to log off mid-fleet to convert girlfriend aggro to wife aggro... Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Rellik B00n
Lethal Death Squad
198
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Posted - 2013.01.04 20:55:00 -
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Some Rando wrote:I keep seeing that definition thrown around:
"EVE should cater to casual players" "I'm more of a casual player" "EVE doesn't appeal to casual players"
Is this some code-phrase for carebear? I consider myself a casual player, maybe getting two or three hours of play in roughly three days a week and, while I do my share of bearing, I also enjoy some small gang and solo PvP.
I'd hate to think that actual casual players of EVE get lumped into the same category as 23.5/7 AFK ice mining carebears who don't PvP.
well i can only see one question mark, so to address that in the most full and detailed manner which is currently available to me, after much thought and deliberation on the subject that the question is referring to, it would seem that the obvious answer in a situation such as this is:
no, it is not code for carebear.
carebear itself is a stupid word - its effectively just as pointless as calling someone a noob.
bootom line is humans like things to have a nice near order in the index of their lives, so they attach the tag 'carebear' to a whole range of players. Ironically it means different things to different people. It does not mean casusal though so your ok there. qfmjt-1 |
De'Veldrin
East India Ore Trade The East India Co.
714
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Posted - 2013.01.04 20:57:00 -
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Casual is one of those vague terms that can have a lot of meanings.
I'm casual about PvP, but I'm pretty intense about my ISk making. Bumping, leave it alone. |
Jamyl Khanid
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
16
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Posted - 2013.01.04 21:03:00 -
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If you have one account you are casual. Most in EVE are. Is it a good thing? A bad thing? Some people like green grapes, some like red. Whatever. |
Some Rando
University of Caille Gallente Federation
625
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Posted - 2013.01.04 21:15:00 -
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Rellik B00n wrote:carebear itself is a stupid word - its effectively just as pointless as calling someone a noob. Carebear is an excellent word that adequately describes the "leave me alone to play my game" mentality of certain players who can't reconcile the fact that they're playing in a PvP environment.
Jamyl Khanid wrote: If you have one account you are casual. Subs are pretty cheap, I hardly think this is a qualifier. Care to elaborate? |
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