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Sir Diablos
The Plebian Republic
8
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Posted - 2013.01.07 21:32:00 -
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That Risk V Reward is relevant.
That 'Carebears' are trying to destroy Eve.
That Hisec is safe, or safer.
That balance can be achieved via Nerfs.
That Eve is just as hard and unforgiving as it's always been.
The devil is in the details... |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
3274
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Posted - 2013.01.07 22:26:00 -
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"That ship to ship PvP is the only way to play Eve "right". "
That is a myth, but if you had said "Being prepared at all times to engage in or attempt to avoid/survive ship to ship PVP is the only way to play Eve "right"." you would have been correct.
"That 0.0 is a fun place to live."
Parial myth, it all depends on where you live and who your friends are.
"That hitting F1 on command is something only the elite can do. "
Indeed a myth, anyone can hit F1... as the loss section of any kill board can attest to.
"Actually, just insert most of what people who rarely engage in combat say about ship to ship PvP here. "
Fixed that for you.
To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors.
If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
Khergit Deserters
621
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Posted - 2013.01.07 23:00:00 -
[183] - Quote
All miners are AFK.
Not true. A lot of them are ATK alt-tabbing to Youtube, Grooveshark, email, etc. Or in some chat channel talking about the weather, trading hangover cures, solving existentialist problems, bragging about their m3/sec rates, that kind of stuff.
'The difference between you and me is, I know I'm crazy.'-á
-The late Jack H.-- old Texas guy, professional fish poacher, wise man |
March rabbit
Federal Defense Union
469
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Posted - 2013.01.07 23:39:00 -
[184] - Quote
Eve Online community is more amateur than in other MMO  |
NEONOVUS
Saablast Followers
292
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Posted - 2013.01.08 00:06:00 -
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Dervinus wrote:HBC=CFC=Goons=PL=TEST blobnapfest420xxxxxx
Am I the only one thinking that is a molecular formula? |
Mag's
the united
Negative Ten.
13444
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Posted - 2013.01.08 00:50:00 -
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DeMichael Crimson wrote:Reading Comprehension just isn't your Forte now is It? No one has claimed the industry standard RNG CCP uses, is a true RNG. Because computers can't do them. So reading and comprehension, seems to be your issue.
Also, your list has no place in this thread. But I can see you'd never understand that fact.
CCP Zulu.....
Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience. |
Nerath Naaris
Pink Winged Unicorns for Peace Love and Anarchy
335
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Posted - 2013.01.08 01:18:00 -
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Diamond Bull wrote:
That hitting F1 on command is something only the elite can do.
Ah, if after a dozen jumps you find out that people STILL can-¦t align on command in time to catch fleetwarp, I wonder about that being just a myth.....
Anyway:
That recruitment channel will help newbs find a good corp.
Forum-unbanned since 2011.10.20. |
Frostys Virpio
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
265
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Posted - 2013.01.08 05:56:00 -
[188] - Quote
Nerath Naaris wrote:[quote=Diamond Bull]
That recruitment channel will help newbs find a good corp.
This.
+1 |
luZk
x13
Whores in space
89
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Posted - 2013.01.08 06:14:00 -
[189] - Quote
Falcons are OP. |
Shamus O'Reilly
Gungnirs' Point
I Know Right
49
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Posted - 2013.01.08 07:14:00 -
[190] - Quote
Mining barges are only good for mining 
http://themittani.com/news/alod-can-flip-gone-awry
Daisai wrote:Eve online pvp combat is about skill and not skillpoints.
"PVP is solely based upon SP and not piloting skill." I'm sorry but i disagree to your statement saying EVE PVP is based on skillpoints entirely if that was where you were going with it. I can agree to a certain extent that a pure PVP character 3 years old can have the advantage on a 5mil SP PVP pilot, but only through the variety of ships and modules they can use to gain the advantage. Don't get me wrong SP helps a ton in a PVP situation but if the 60mil SP pilot is an idiot the 5mil pilot who knows what he is doing can easily turn the fight in his favor.
Put it this way. Two pilots, one in a Megathron who chose to engage another in an Ishkur. If the Ishkur is orbiting at 500 from the mega and has the ammo to sustain fighting which can win if no one else shows up on field? Granted fits for each ship play a huge role in this question also but its not that long time wise to train a TII fully fitted Ishkur or an Enyo and/or training TII drones in a few weeks comparing to a TII fitted mega for its guns.
SP after a certain extent only opens you to more variety in ships and modules to fight with. The rest comes down to what you know and how you fly |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
4831
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Posted - 2013.01.08 07:35:00 -
[191] - Quote
Mag's wrote:No one has claimed the industry standard RNG CCP uses, is a true RNG. Because computers can't do them. So reading and comprehension, seems to be your issue. Never said anything about 'True RNG' but hey, thanks for showing us that you too also have an issue with Reading Comprehension, especially since you not only explained the Myth, you also didn't even see it after you wrote it.
Since the sequence eventually repeats itself over and over again, claiming that it's 'Random' is the Myth.
DUH
Mag's wrote:Also, your list has no place in this thread. But I can see you'd never understand that fact. Actually, my list has every right to be in this thread, a hell of a lot more than your biased opinion.
The OP was very explicit -
Petrus Blackshell wrote:What is your favorite Eve myth?
As title. What is your favorite thing that is "totally true", but is in fact complete bollocks?
No where did the OP ask you or any other player to analyze, refute, disprove or discuss the Myth's others have posted in this thread, let alone do it with sarcastic insulting innuendos. Any more will be reported as off topic troll posting. |
Mars Theran
Red Rogue Squadron
1594
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Posted - 2013.01.08 08:35:00 -
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Julien Brellier wrote:DUST 514 is groundbreaking and will be a major factor in EVE Online.
It's definitely ground-breaking, but I'm not sure yet how much of a factor it will be in EVE.
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Mars Theran
Red Rogue Squadron
1594
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Posted - 2013.01.08 08:36:00 -
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Petrus Blackshell wrote:Mc Scam wrote:Every contract linked in Jita local is a scam. Actually, I once saw a Courier contract linked there to haul stuff from one station in Jita to another. I took it, because I have bookmarks set up, and could use the 20 mil ISK it paid (the collateral was 50 mil or something). When I peeked inside, it was full of capital blueprints and skillbooks. I never even undocked with it, and made about 900 mil that day. Best Jita local contract ever.
This is why you double the value in collateral on Courier contracts. 
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Mars Theran
Red Rogue Squadron
1594
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Posted - 2013.01.08 08:39:00 -
[194] - Quote
CCP can render and stream the graphics for 50k active players on tablet is another one I like. Real time too.
zubzubzubzubzubzubzubzub |
Seleia O'Sinnor
Drop of Honey
302
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Posted - 2013.01.08 08:40:00 -
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That you need a multipages highly complex spreadsheet to undock your shuttle.
New inventory: Getting better since version 1.2, but what about back and forward buttons? |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
12549
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Posted - 2013.01.08 08:42:00 -
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DeMichael Crimson wrote:Never said anything about 'True RNG' ...aside from in the quote you used to (fail) to explain why the RNG was a myth, making the distinction between true and algorithmical RNG the only thing that could possibly be the source of the supposed myth.
You still haven't explained what the myth is, by the way, because the RNG certainly isn't one.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan. |
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
3637
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Posted - 2013.01.08 08:44:00 -
[197] - Quote
NEONOVUS wrote:Dervinus wrote:HBC=CFC=Goons=PL=TEST blobnapfest420xxxxxx Am I the only one thinking that is a molecular formula?
Yes, and if you solve the equation you see the solution is "Serenity".
Yes, a testament to the utter failure of Dominion is the convergence of both servers to the end of diversity and identity. A grand failure for a game whose PvP is a cornerstone.
Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
Twitter channel |
Babar Baboli
CTRL-Q
Iron Oxide.
17
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Posted - 2013.01.08 08:58:00 -
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The best myth is when someone told me that Rifters were the best ships in EVE.
The best truth is probably Dan Carter Murray. |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
4840
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Posted - 2013.01.08 10:18:00 -
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Tippia wrote:You still haven't explained what the myth is, by the way, because the RNG certainly isn't one.
Heh, I've heard that stubbornness can cause blindness or at the very least, a bad case of 'Selective Vision'.
Anyway, the Myth about RNG (Random Number Generation) was already stated.
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My Postman
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
90
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Posted - 2013.01.08 10:36:00 -
[200] - Quote
Monkeysphere accident, where he (and probably other pl members) did-¦nt show up in local. I-¦m sure it never happened. +90 page threadnought in gd proved me right. |
Lost Greybeard
Drunken Yordles
222
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Posted - 2013.01.08 10:47:00 -
[201] - Quote
I'd also add "this activity is not PvP".
No matter what you're referring to, it's PvP. The economy in Eve is fundamentally competitive, and so even if you're doing nothing but PI the other people selling PI stuff have an incentive to try to nuke your hauler so they or their buddies can sell their PI stuff for higher prices. If you only do PI to feed your own station, they have an incentive to nuke your hauler (and your station) because by supporting yourself you're an opportunity cost to them (they're losing the money they should be making from you buying their stuff).
Basically, any time you think there's no reason for someone to blow you up, undermine you on the market, block your shipping routes, etc, you're fundamentally misunderstanding the nature of the game. The usual offenders are high-sec miners, who somehow don't grasp that if they put a bunch of minerals on the market other miners have to sell their minerals cheaper. |
Valleria Darkmoon
No Salvation
92
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Posted - 2013.01.08 10:48:00 -
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Sec status is an indicator of how trustworthy a player is. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
12551
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Posted - 2013.01.08 10:53:00 -
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DeMichael Crimson wrote:Anyway, the Myth about RNG (Random Number Generation) was already stated. ...and it was...?
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan. |
dexington
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
523
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Posted - 2013.01.08 11:13:00 -
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Tippia wrote:DeMichael Crimson wrote:RNG = Random Numeric Generator RiiiightGǪ GǪso how is standard code a myth, again? The rest I can understand that someone clueless enough would consider myths, but this one?!
How do you know what implementation eve uses as server side random number generator, it could be standard code or monkeys throwing dices for all we know, or not at all random... maybe some guy playing eve actually is able to predict the outcome of in-game evens that to others seem as random.
GÇ£The best way to keep something bad from happening is to see it ahead of time, and you can't see it if you refuse to face the possibility.GÇ¥ |
Dark Drifter
Sardaukar Merc Guild
General Tso's Alliance
55
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Posted - 2013.01.08 13:39:00 -
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that they dont shoooot nooootrillls in greeet wild lands :P |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
4846
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Posted - 2013.01.08 21:31:00 -
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Tippia wrote:DeMichael Crimson wrote:Anyway, the Myth about RNG (Random Number Generation) was already stated. ...and it was...? Because, no, things being random is not a myth either. RNG really is R.
Heh, proof here that reading is fundamental.
Anyway, done messing round with stubborn egomaniacs. The link was previously posted and the Myth was already stated. Do your own work and look it up. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
12570
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Posted - 2013.01.08 21:37:00 -
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DeMichael Crimson wrote:Heh, proof here that reading is fundamental. Maybe you should try it then.
You said that the RNG being random was a myth, which it obviously isn't.
You then changed your mind to say that things being random was a myth, which it obviously isn't.
So what's the myth?
Quote:Do your own work and look it up. In other words, you can't find anything to present as a rebuttal. Unfortunately, we have that good old onus probandi. So no. You said it; you do the work; your link didn't show anything even remotely relevant.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan. |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
4846
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Posted - 2013.01.09 03:33:00 -
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Tippia wrote:DeMichael Crimson wrote:Heh, proof here that reading is fundamental. Maybe you should try it then. You said that the RNG being random was a myth, which it obviously isn't. Physician, heal thyself and practice what you preach. I already posted a link which explained the Myth immediately after you started in on this foolish crusade of yours.
Tippia wrote:You then changed your mind to say that things being random was a myth, which it obviously isn't.
So what's the myth? Oh what tangled webs we weave.........(Unfortunately for you) I never said that. I must say it's almost sad seeing you make stuff up now.
Tippia wrote:DeMichael Crimson wrote:Do your own work and look it up. In other words, you can't find anything to present as a rebuttal. Unfortunately, we have that good old onus probandi. So no. You said it; you do the work; your link didn't show anything even remotely relevant. lol, you're definitely one stubborn blind lazy hypocrite. I already posted proof. Obviously it's too painful for you to read something that contradicts and disproves your statements. Anyway, the burden is now on you to post evidence that proves your allegations. If not, then please stop your foolish ranting. |
SpoonRECKLESS
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
3
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Posted - 2013.01.09 05:09:00 -
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Test is full of sexy men. Willing to do things for isk.
The willing part is true tho.
What I have seen or heard can not be unseen or unheard. |
Signal11th
Against ALL Anomalies
865
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Posted - 2013.01.09 08:37:00 -
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Haedonism Bot wrote:CCP is ruining the game for my category of players because they only care about (insert player category here).
CCP is trying to turn EVE into WOW in space.
CCP are pets of the Goons.
Goons are actually the CIA.
Well tbh I wouldn't say all of those are myths........
God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!" I came second and won a toaster. |
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