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Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings Damu'Khonde
2294
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Posted - 2013.01.06 12:01:00 -
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As title. What is your favorite thing that is "totally true", but is in fact complete bollocks?
Mine is probably that corp CEOs are in it to profit off the grunts via corp taxes. Rifterlings - small gang frigate PvP - low/nullsec operations, newbie-friendly, free ship program; Join today! www.rifterlings.com
Accidentally The Whole Frigate (blog) - Learning how to pew pew, one loss at a time - www.thewholefrigate.com |

Zack Korth
The Scope Gallente Federation
178
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Posted - 2013.01.06 12:02:00 -
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people in GD know what they're talking about |

Pewty McPew
Pillage Plunder And Rape Industries
83
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Posted - 2013.01.06 12:03:00 -
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The CQ door will eventually be opened. |

baltec1
Bat Country
4680
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Posted - 2013.01.06 12:07:00 -
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That battleship cant do x |

Xinivrae
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
237
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Posted - 2013.01.06 12:07:00 -
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Every myth about my alliance.
Alternatively, that the very act of jumping into low/null is met with swift, immediate and unavoidable death. |

Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings Damu'Khonde
2294
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Posted - 2013.01.06 12:11:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:That battleship cant do x Megathron sucks, bro. Just give it up. It can't even lift. Rifterlings - small gang frigate PvP - low/nullsec operations, newbie-friendly, free ship program; Join today! www.rifterlings.com
Accidentally The Whole Frigate (blog) - Learning how to pew pew, one loss at a time - www.thewholefrigate.com |

Vilnius Zar
Ordo Ardish
559
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Posted - 2013.01.06 12:11:00 -
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Petrus Blackshell wrote:As title. What is your favorite thing that is "totally true", but is in fact complete bollocks?
Mine is probably that corp CEOs are in it to profit off the grunts via corp taxes.
Actually many high sec corps are like that.
My myth would be the notion that pirates are antisocial ******** 12 yearolds while pve players are friendly, social and mature. Generally it tends to be the other way round. Amat victoria curam. Excellence in everything.
Some guides that may be useful to you: http://www.youtube.com/user/OrdoArdish |

Lexmana
838
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Posted - 2013.01.06 12:12:00 -
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All gates are camped. |

Spurty
V0LTA Verge of Collapse
732
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Posted - 2013.01.06 12:12:00 -
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More people are needed! --- I used to be indecisive but now I am not quite sure. |

Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
305
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Posted - 2013.01.06 12:14:00 -
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EvE is full of sociopaths. If you want instant gratification, go stimulate your genitals. EvE is Hard, deal with it. |
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Estella Osoka
Deep Void Merc Syndicate
11
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Posted - 2013.01.06 12:15:00 -
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There is no solo pvp. |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
12502
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Posted - 2013.01.06 12:17:00 -
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Newbies can't catch up. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan. |

Zack Korth
The Scope Gallente Federation
180
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Posted - 2013.01.06 12:17:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Newbies can't catch up.
lol |

Long John Silver
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
46
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Posted - 2013.01.06 12:19:00 -
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Null seccer's understand carebears. Long John Silver | Pirate Alt-áand Forum Troll. |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
12502
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Posted - 2013.01.06 12:20:00 -
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Zack Korth wrote:Tippia wrote:Newbies can't catch up. lol I know, right? It's so hilariously and blatantly obviously false that it's almost amazing that it has become such a myth. 
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan. |

AraniFyr
Apollo Syndicate
91
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Posted - 2013.01.06 12:21:00 -
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Don't fly what you can't afford to lose!!!
Psh I do it all the time!
P.s don't shoot me ty |

Zack Korth
The Scope Gallente Federation
180
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Posted - 2013.01.06 12:23:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Zack Korth wrote:Tippia wrote:Newbies can't catch up. lol I know, right? It's so hilariously and blatantly obviously false that it's almost amazing that it has become such a myth. 
after enough time, they will catch up, but for now.. i'm marking this one unsolved |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
12502
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Posted - 2013.01.06 12:26:00 -
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Zack Korth wrote:after enough time, they will catch up GǪin other words: always, because short of quitting, it is impossible for them not to due to how the game has solved the whole character advancement problem. So it's a myth that they can't.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan. |

Randolph Rothstein
whatever corp.
295
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Posted - 2013.01.06 12:30:00 -
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risk vs. reward |

Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
3624
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Posted - 2013.01.06 12:33:00 -
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That more risk necessarily implies more reward. Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
Twitter channel |
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Lost Greybeard
Drunken Yordles
221
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Posted - 2013.01.06 12:33:00 -
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Long John Silver wrote:Null seccer's understand carebears.
They should, most of them _are_ carebears. Sovereignty null is significantly safer for pure PvE than high sec, basically forever for everyone that's not a miner but nowadays even for miners. And most of the PvP where you're really likely to lose ships is big, arranged stuff, much less random violence than low/NPC Null or even much of high. |

Ifly Uwalk
Empire Tax Collection Agency
483
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Posted - 2013.01.06 12:35:00 -
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Caldari suck at pvp. |

Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings Damu'Khonde
2294
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Posted - 2013.01.06 12:36:00 -
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Caldari are the "missile race". Rifterlings - small gang frigate PvP - low/nullsec operations, newbie-friendly, free ship program; Join today! www.rifterlings.com
Accidentally The Whole Frigate (blog) - Learning how to pew pew, one loss at a time - www.thewholefrigate.com |

Dheeradj Nurgle
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
169
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Posted - 2013.01.06 12:51:00 -
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People on GD know what they are talking about.
High/Low/Null is totally broken!
Null is All PvP.
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Rain6639
Team Evil
37
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Posted - 2013.01.06 12:54:00 -
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if you fail to maintain an updated clone and die, you lose everything. <-would be hardcore if you need me, I'll be on youtube watching russian car accident videos |

Lexmana
839
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Posted - 2013.01.06 12:56:00 -
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Long John Silver wrote:Null seccer's understand carebears. Carebears understand EVE. |

Mr Pragmatic
467
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Posted - 2013.01.06 12:56:00 -
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Hi Sec is safe. Vote for me in the next CSM Elections. I will fight for the interest of all Hi-sec dwellers. No longer will you be cast aside and disparaged. |

ctx2007
Wychwood and Wells Beer needs you
261
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Posted - 2013.01.06 12:57:00 -
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The big boss lives in Jove space. You only-árealise you life has been a waste of time, when you wake up dead. |

Scatim Helicon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1342
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Posted - 2013.01.06 13:00:00 -
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All the ones that involve the words 'nullbears', 'napfests' and 'blobs', normally in the same incoherent sentence. Titans were never meant to be "cost effective", its a huge ****.-á- CCP Oveur, 2006
~If you want a picture of the future of WiS, imagine a spaceship, stamping on an avatar's face. Forever. |

Haedonism Bot
Revolutionary Front New Creation Collective
133
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Posted - 2013.01.06 13:01:00 -
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CCP is ruining the game for my category of players because they only care about (insert player category here).
CCP is trying to turn EVE into WOW in space.
CCP are pets of the Goons.
Goons are actually the CIA. Join the Revolutionary Front and liberate New Eden from it's stuff.
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Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
2081
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Posted - 2013.01.06 13:04:00 -
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Goonswarm. Because there are no goons. |

Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
13425
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Posted - 2013.01.06 13:10:00 -
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An AFK cloaker made me dock up and stop playing.
CCP Zulu..... Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience. |

Audrey Thinkerbolt
Enlightened Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
16
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Posted - 2013.01.06 13:12:00 -
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You can passively align your ship. |

iskflakes
Magnets Inc.
236
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Posted - 2013.01.06 13:14:00 -
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I always liked the myth that CCP doesn't intervene to help one or two chosen (high member count) alliances. Track your wealth with EVEStats - https://ohheck.co.uk/EVEStats/home.php |

Funky Lazers
Shin-Ra Ltd
208
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Posted - 2013.01.06 13:15:00 -
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Petrus Blackshell wrote:What is your favorite Eve myth?
Nullbears never cry about nerfing hi-sec.
Whatever. |

Sarmea Moon
Universal Freelance CONSORTIUM UNIVERSALIS
166
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Posted - 2013.01.06 13:38:00 -
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Petrus Blackshell wrote:As title. What is your favorite thing that is "totally true", but is in fact complete bollocks?
Mine is probably that corp CEOs are in it to profit off the grunts via corp taxes.
Can't believe it hasn't been said already.
EvE Is Dying. The problem with defending the purity of the English language is that English is about as pure as a cribhouse [lady of commercial virtue]. We don't just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary.- James Nicoll |

Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting Home Front Coalition
259
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Posted - 2013.01.06 13:42:00 -
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Got ninja'd. Will think of a new one. |

S'Way
Bitter Vets
440
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Posted - 2013.01.06 13:43:00 -
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EvE is still a cold, harsh game.
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Hedion's oracle
Shark Enterprises
21
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Posted - 2013.01.06 13:50:00 -
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That subscriptions have increased.
Error: Working As intended |

Captain Death1
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
32
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Posted - 2013.01.06 13:54:00 -
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eve pvp lol nap fest |
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psycho freak
Snuff Box
220
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Posted - 2013.01.06 13:55:00 -
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That all players are game developers with they stupid fcking ideas and whines and change this and that attatuide
oh wait
another myth is that i can actually spell my spelling sux brb find phone number for someone who gives a fu*k
nop cant find it |

Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
438
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Posted - 2013.01.06 14:01:00 -
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Quote:What is your favorite Eve myth?
Ho I've got several ones:
-Actions have consequences (my favorite) -Risk vs Reward -Players skill (indeed F1 at the gate requires a brainy finger)
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Lord Rixus
Turalyon Plus
15
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Posted - 2013.01.06 14:01:00 -
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Vilnius Zar wrote:Petrus Blackshell wrote:As title. What is your favorite thing that is "totally true", but is in fact complete bollocks?
Mine is probably that corp CEOs are in it to profit off the grunts via corp taxes. Actually many high sec corps are like that. My myth would be the notion that pirates are antisocial ******** 12 yearolds while pve players are friendly, social and mature. Generally it tends to be the other way round.
As someone who is an insomniac and plays all hours of the day, I can say with certainty that the pirates come out in force starting when high school gets out on the east coast of the USA, and calm down again after bed time.
Not that I have a problem with this or anything, but thats my personal observation for sure. |

Ocih
Space Mermaids Somethin Awfull Forums
585
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Posted - 2013.01.06 14:11:00 -
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That EVE is complex. |

Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting Home Front Coalition
259
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Posted - 2013.01.06 14:18:00 -
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That exploiting lowsec isn't worth the risks. In terms of ISK/KM and Fun/Hr, it might very well be profitable... depending on what, and who you know. |

Felicity Love
STARKRAFT
137
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Posted - 2013.01.06 14:23:00 -
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Null Secs, Best Secs ! ! !

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TharOkha
0asis Group
488
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Posted - 2013.01.06 14:36:00 -
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Xinivrae wrote:Every myth about my alliance. goons eat little children    GÇ£If reality can destroy the dream, why shouldn't the dream destroy reality?GÇ¥ |

Wacktopia
Noir. Black Legion.
404
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Posted - 2013.01.06 14:40:00 -
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That EVE would have 100000000s more subs if CCP would only remove PVP from hi sec.
#loadofrubbish The bottom line is that now I have one of those annoying signatures. |

Natasha Stone
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.01.06 14:43:00 -
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Audrey Thinkerbolt wrote:You can passively align your ship.
Totally this. |

Eight Two
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
52
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Posted - 2013.01.06 14:51:00 -
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CCP knows what they're doing. |
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Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2056
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Posted - 2013.01.06 14:53:00 -
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Mining is the only thing for new players to do. The Adventures of a Belligerent Undesirable |

Ginger Barbarella
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
1077
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Posted - 2013.01.06 14:54:00 -
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That miners dump all those minerals on the market. "Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." -á --- Sorlac |

Jonah Gravenstein
Overly Complex Security Innovations
4882
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Posted - 2013.01.06 15:28:00 -
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Incursions can't be done without fitting faction and officer mods
Always bet on stupid, CCP can't patch stupid. The measure of success in Eve is not monetary worth, it's how effectively you can bend others to your will. |

Silivar Karkun
Electronic Research Team Ing
24
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Posted - 2013.01.06 15:30:00 -
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"Soon" (TM) |

killorbekilled TBE
Initiated
183
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Posted - 2013.01.06 15:34:00 -
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EVE Online is dying :) |

Ifly Uwalk
Empire Tax Collection Agency
483
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Posted - 2013.01.06 15:42:00 -
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:18months:
I wish!  |

Kitty Bear
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam Disturbed Acquaintance
511
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Posted - 2013.01.06 15:53:00 -
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Nerfing Highsec will fix Nulsec |

Nexus Day
Lustrevik Trade and Travel Bureau
370
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Posted - 2013.01.06 15:57:00 -
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EvE is a sandbox game.
EvE is a PvP game. |

Forum Clone 77777
State War Academy Caldari State
45
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Posted - 2013.01.06 16:37:00 -
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Highsec is safe
Concord protects |

Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
989
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Posted - 2013.01.06 16:38:00 -
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There will be ring mining. |
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Sorlac
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
17
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Posted - 2013.01.06 16:44:00 -
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EvE has sound. |

Sebastian N Cain
Aliastra Gallente Federation
155
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Posted - 2013.01.06 16:52:00 -
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Zack Korth wrote:people in GD know what they're talking about
Oh come on. Not once in the history of mankind anyone believed this one ever. So it-¦s not a myth.
 "You either need less science fiction or more medication."
"Or less medication and more ammo!" |

Solstice Project
Join me if you hate people
2511
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Posted - 2013.01.06 16:53:00 -
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CONCORD is attacking outlaws in highsec, as soon as they enter/undock. Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire |

Buzzy Warstl
The Strontium Asylum
425
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Posted - 2013.01.06 16:55:00 -
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Xinivrae wrote:the very act of jumping into low/null is met with swift, immediate and unavoidable death.
You say that like it's a bad thing.
Hit the rat with the hat first. Oh, wait, wrong game.
How about "you need at least 10M skill points to make it in nullsec". That's definitely my favorite. http://www.mud.co.uk/richard/hcds.htm
Richard Bartle: Players who suit MUDs |

bbb2020
Carebears with Attitude
28
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Posted - 2013.01.06 17:17:00 -
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Forum Clone 77777 wrote:Highsec is safe
Concord protects Nice alt name :-)
Highsec is NOT safe.
For this is to be true, it would mean highsec is unsafe and it isn't. It's not 100% safe but it is NOT unsafe. I don't feel unsafe when flying in highsec.
EvE = Everybody vs Everybody
For this to be true, it would imply that everyone is willing to shoot at everybody and they don't. Player A might want to shoot player B but player B might not have the desire to shoot play A even though he / she is playing EvE. Players who think this is a legit statement might confuse it with; ME vs Everbody (is like ME).
Randolph Rothstein wrote:risk vs. reward
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:That more risk necessarily implies more reward. Not true; as risk is not a build-in game feature. It is an emotion and not a constant, whereas rewards in most circumstances is a game feature and a constant. The circumstances where rewards are not a constant it stop being a reward and turns into a gamble (luck), at which point risk as a concept is annihilated. |

Marlona Sky
D00M. Northern Coalition.
2833
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Posted - 2013.01.06 17:20:00 -
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Audrey Thinkerbolt wrote:You can passively align your ship. I tried to explain this to people now and then and they still think this is a real thing. 
Remove local, structure mails and revamp the directional scanner! |

Tarn Kugisa
Infinite Covenant Tribal Band
372
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Posted - 2013.01.06 17:21:00 -
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Ifly Uwalk wrote:Caldari suck at pvp.
let me get my Kitsune and see how mad you get I Endorse this Product and/or Service EVE Online Battle Recorder When I press F1 I get ISK |

Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
13430
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Posted - 2013.01.06 17:49:00 -
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Nexus Day wrote:EvE is a sandbox game.
EvE is a PvP game. Sarcasm, I like it.
CCP Zulu..... Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience. |

Westar Egdald
Black Hawk Down Absolute Darkness
0
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Posted - 2013.01.06 18:04:00 -
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"Eve is hard" |

Ivan Joukov
The Wings of Maak Defiant Legacy
41
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Posted - 2013.01.06 18:07:00 -
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Samuel L. Jackson. -áDavai!
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Daisai
The Riot Formation Unclaimed.
58
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Posted - 2013.01.06 18:09:00 -
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Eve online pvp combat is about skill and not skillpoints. |

Istvaan Shogaatsu
Guiding Hand Social Club
833
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Posted - 2013.01.06 18:19:00 -
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Daisai wrote:Eve online pvp combat is about skill and not skillpoints.
So you're saying it IS about skillpoints? I should be a combat god. |

Daisai
The Riot Formation Unclaimed.
58
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Posted - 2013.01.06 18:22:00 -
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Istvaan Shogaatsu wrote:Daisai wrote:Eve online pvp combat is about skill and not skillpoints. So you're saying it IS about skillpoints? I should be a combat god.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/myth
So the myth is that its about player skilll and not skillpoints, so then yes i am saying its about skillpoints. |

Lexmana
841
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Posted - 2013.01.06 18:30:00 -
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Daisai wrote:Istvaan Shogaatsu wrote:Daisai wrote:Eve online pvp combat is about skill and not skillpoints. So you're saying it IS about skillpoints? I should be a combat god. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/mythSo the myth is that its about player skilll and not skillpoints, so then yes i am saying its about skillpoints.
Cool story bro!
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Mr Pragmatic
468
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Posted - 2013.01.06 18:49:00 -
[75] - Quote
Bitter vets feel more entitled than new players. Vote for me in the next CSM Elections. I will fight for the interest of all Hi-sec dwellers. No longer will you be cast aside and disparaged. |

ctx2007
Wychwood and Wells Beer needs you
261
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Posted - 2013.01.06 19:10:00 -
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Vimsy Vortis wrote:There will be ring mining.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTJMerul33E You only-árealise you life has been a waste of time, when you wake up dead. |

Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
3264
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Posted - 2013.01.06 19:11:00 -
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Lexmana wrote:Daisai wrote:Istvaan Shogaatsu wrote:Daisai wrote:Eve online pvp combat is about skill and not skillpoints. So you're saying it IS about skillpoints? I should be a combat god. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/mythSo the myth is that its about player skilll and not skillpoints, so then yes i am saying its about skillpoints. Cool story bro!
Hey now, this man knows what he is talking about. He has almost 150 kills/losses and it looks like all of them are gate camp ganks. 
It's hard to find that kind of depth of experience outside of say a grade school or a convent. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |

Nex apparatu5
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
441
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Posted - 2013.01.06 19:13:00 -
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My favorite two are that skillpoints matter in PVP and that nullsec is a blue wasteland |

Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
374
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Posted - 2013.01.06 19:19:00 -
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Petrus Blackshell wrote:As title. What is your favorite thing that is "totally true", but is in fact complete bollocks?
Mine is probably that corp CEOs are in it to profit off the grunts via corp taxes.
Is it embarrassing to be so naive? 
Petition for a Minimum bounty of 10 mil. Prevent useless bounties!
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Oxandrolone
Bite Me inc Bitten.
104
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Posted - 2013.01.06 19:31:00 -
[80] - Quote
Wormholes are free isk |
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Forum Clone 77777
State War Academy Caldari State
46
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Posted - 2013.01.06 19:32:00 -
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bbb2020 wrote:Stupid stuff
Highsec is very much unsafe, the hundreds of daily killmails of haulers, miners, and random other stuff prove otherwise, you have no argument really, and even if you have never been killed, its a FACT that I could, personally, find you flying around, and gank you at any time, as long as youre not docked.
Doesnt matter if you FEEL safe, you arent. |

NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises Project Wildfire
229
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Posted - 2013.01.06 19:33:00 -
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This is an old one but still find it amusing. This is supposed to be a long time ago when it was easier to tank/get away from/be faster then Concord. If a player blew up someone in high sec and managed to espace concord a GM would come in at any random point in one of their fancy ships and blow you to bits out of the blue werever you were,and whatever ship you were in. The idea being that you could be sitting there in your fancy BS or whatever suspecting nothing and suddenly a Jove ship would appear and blow you up as a "punishment" for escpaing Concord. Think that has to be my all time favorite,not because its not true but because i would love it if it was and imagion the exspression on someones face whn a GM suddenly jumped in,came with some speech in local on how you had been trying to hide from the authorieties and then blew up your faction fitted ship you had worked so hard to get  |

Piugattuk
Lima beans Corp
282
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Posted - 2013.01.06 19:35:00 -
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Xinivrae wrote:Every myth about my alliance.
Alternatively, that the very act of jumping into low/null is met with swift, immediate and unavoidable death.
Nothing against your group but when you cultivate an image and people think you are how can you wonder? Goon path starting in a forum "something awful" sounds like good church going folk no? I can list stuff but let's just leave it at that, as I said nothing against your group.
But my favorite myth...NULL sec is where you go to become poor in this game cause NULL is broken. |

Daisai
The Riot Formation Unclaimed.
59
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Posted - 2013.01.06 19:36:00 -
[84] - Quote
Ranger 1 wrote:Lexmana wrote:Daisai wrote:Istvaan Shogaatsu wrote:Daisai wrote:Eve online pvp combat is about skill and not skillpoints. So you're saying it IS about skillpoints? I should be a combat god. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/mythSo the myth is that its about player skilll and not skillpoints, so then yes i am saying its about skillpoints. Cool story bro! Hey now, this man knows what he is talking about. He has almost 150 kills/losses and it looks like all of them are gate camp ganks.  It's hard to find that kind of depth of experience outside of say a grade school or a convent.
Show a fight between a player with all skills in a cruiser at lvl 1 fighting another player in a tech 2 cruiser with all relevant skills at 5. Both players should know what to do and be afk and should not get links running.
When you can show that the first player has the same amount of chance to win as the 2nd player then the myth i posted is not a myth. If you can not i suggest you join your own little gatecamp in low sec and stop fail trolling at this forum. |

Esrevid Nekkeg
Justified and Ancient
162
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Posted - 2013.01.06 19:47:00 -
[85] - Quote
Minerals are for free when mining. Here I used to have a sig of our old Camper in space. Now it is disregarded as being the wrong format. Looking out the window I see one thing: Nothing wrong with the format of our Camper! Silly CCP......
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Nessa Aldeen
The Sword and The Shield
6
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Posted - 2013.01.06 19:57:00 -
[86] - Quote
Eve consist of griefers supported by a company that encourages griefing on a non-consensual basis.
Eve community is the worst community in MMO gaming history due to constantly lauding pvp mechanics.
Eve breeds psychopaths, sociopaths, murderers, drug dealing in RL. (<--this is the best one I have seen)
Eve is not a spaceship simulator, it's Excel in space.
Eve is dying.
(as reported by various angry rage quit carebear players on this forum, different mmos forums and upcoming competitor forums like the crappy sounding Star Citizen and Elite Dangerous).
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Sisohiv
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
225
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Posted - 2013.01.06 19:59:00 -
[87] - Quote
Xinivrae wrote:Every myth about my alliance.
Alternatively, that the very act of jumping into low/null is met with swift, immediate and unavoidable death.
Agree on your alliance. Though to be fair, you guys started and keep most of them alive.
Second part is a forum drama queen myth. Most people in EVE know you can go to Low and Null and not get sploded so long as you just want to go there and not do stuff. Undock a miner or a PvE fit and watch them come out of the wood work. |

Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
693
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Posted - 2013.01.06 20:08:00 -
[88] - Quote
Petrus Blackshell wrote:As title. What is your favorite thing that is "totally true", but is in fact complete bollocks?
AFK drone ships.
EvE Forum Bingo |

Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
3264
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Posted - 2013.01.06 20:10:00 -
[89] - Quote
Quote:Show a fight between a player with all skills in a cruiser at lvl 1 fighting another player in a tech 2 cruiser with all relevant skills at 5. Both players should know what to do and not be afk and should not get links running.
When you can show that the first player has the same amount of chance to win as the 2nd player then the myth i posted is not a myth. If you can not i suggest you join your own little gatecamp in low sec and stop fail trolling at this forum.
Because 1 vs 1 is a significant, or even noticable, representation of how combat is done in EvE. Shall we check your small number of kills and see how many of them were solo and in the same ship class.   
To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |

Mister S Burke
Giant Space Squid Mining Corporation
11
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Posted - 2013.01.06 20:10:00 -
[90] - Quote
Forum Clone 77777 wrote:bbb2020 wrote:Stupid stuff Highsec is very much unsafe, the hundreds of daily killmails of haulers, miners, and random other stuff prove otherwise, you have no argument really, and even if you have never been killed, its a FACT that I could, personally, find you flying around, and gank you at any time, as long as youre not docked. Doesnt matter if you FEEL safe, you arent.
Orly? Gank any Drakes shielded to the teeth lately in hisec? |
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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
4807
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Posted - 2013.01.06 20:15:00 -
[91] - Quote
Quote:What is your favorite Eve myth?
Oh man, where to start? There's a lot of Eve myth's alive and doing well in this game. Players have already posted quite a few. Here's a few more Eve Myth's :
WAI = Working As Intended
RNG = Random Numeric Generator
WIS = Walking In Stations
CSM (Council of Stellar Management) candidate selection and voting is fair procedure.
The 10,000 votes are legit.
CSM members accurately represent and convey the opinions of the player base majority.
All game mechanics are balanced and working as intended.
PvP players vastly outnumber PvE players.
Every career choice or player action in Eve is PvP.
Creating Eve account is consenting to engage in un-consensual PvP.
PvE content was created and designed strictly to fund PvP content.
All player characters in NPC Corporations are Alt's.
Only characters in Player made Corporations / Alliances benefit and contribute to Eve.
The Forums accurately represent the opinions of the Eve Community and player base.
There is no vocal minority.
High Security space.
Eve Is Real.
Guess I added more than just a few Eve Myth's to the list. Hell, I could have added more but I realized the amount of Eve Myth's in this game is like the Energizer Bunny. It just keeps going.....and going......and going....
DMC |

Daisai
The Riot Formation Unclaimed.
60
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Posted - 2013.01.06 20:49:00 -
[92] - Quote
Ranger 1 wrote:Quote:Show a fight between a player with all skills in a cruiser at lvl 1 fighting another player in a tech 2 cruiser with all relevant skills at 5. Both players should know what to do and not be afk and should not get links running.
When you can show that the first player has the same amount of chance to win as the 2nd player then the myth i posted is not a myth. If you can not i suggest you join your own little gatecamp in low sec and stop fail trolling at this forum. Because 1 vs 1 is a significant, or even noticable, representation of how combat is done in EvE. Shall we check your small number of kills and see how many of them were solo and in the same ship class.   
We are going a bit offtopic here. Anyway its not needed to proof to me that when you take out the variable of player real skill the outcome of a 1vs1 fight is down to skillpoints. More skillpoints in relevant skills is more ehp, more speed, more agility more dps. Basicly everything more.
Still waiting of showing a video of a 1vs1 fight that shows im wrong. |

M1k3y Koontz
Blackened Skies
124
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Posted - 2013.01.06 20:55:00 -
[93] - Quote
Its hard to get into Lowsec is full of pirates. Its only about half full of pirates 
How much herp could a herp derp derp if a herp derp could herp derp. |

Red Teufel
Blackened Skies
211
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Posted - 2013.01.06 20:59:00 -
[94] - Quote
you need keys to turn on your ship. |

Guttripper
State War Academy Caldari State
196
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Posted - 2013.01.06 21:16:00 -
[95] - Quote
Your in game failures or successes automatically state your status in real life.
All the "kewl kids" are gym bound power lifters that make Arnold Schwarzenegger look like a wimp.
These same "kewl kids" are ~built~ bigger and better than John Holmes and have a harem of super models they engage daily.
Since I am in a NPC corp, I know _nothing_. |

bbb2020
Carebears with Attitude
29
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Posted - 2013.01.06 21:31:00 -
[96] - Quote
Forum Clone 77777 wrote:bbb2020 wrote:Stupid stuff Highsec is very much unsafe, the hundreds of daily killmails of haulers, miners, and random other stuff prove otherwise, you have no argument really, and even if you have never been killed, its a FACT that I could, personally, find you flying around, and gank you at any time, as long as youre not docked. Doesnt matter if you FEEL safe, you arent. It has nothing to do with how many kills there are daily but about the possibility of you, yourself or anybody else being killed. Possibility as in; chance, prospect, likelihood, odds.
I could also get killed in a car accident tomorrow or be struck by lightning but since the change of either is very very low, I feel pretty safe leaving my house to get to work. Since the likelihood of getting killed in highsec is very low too, I'll say it's pretty safe to be there.
Lets for a moment say your hundreds of kill a day is correct. In average there are a minimum of 10.000 people in eve every hour around the hour (23 hours in eve time a day). Some 5.000 of them dwell in highsec (50% is a nice round number). Thats 115.000 people a day in highsec. Now lets say 800 of them get killed every day. Thats 0.7% Thats a 0,7 procent change of SOMEONE getting killed. I and I think most players in highsec can live with those odds. /me thinking: Probably some bad odds after writing this.
The fact that you or everyone else "could" is not the same fact that it most likely "will happen".
Oh. In case you're wondering: Why SOMEONE in uppercase? Because the 0,7% is the change of someone among the 115.000 to be among the 800 that gets killed. The chance of me or anyone else (as an individual) to be among those 800 is more in the line of 0.00087% |

Evei Shard
148
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Posted - 2013.01.06 21:43:00 -
[97] - Quote
Low-sec is empty Jaspet is profitable Bots aren't undetectable CCP really does care about botting GD is the place to post features and ideas
Profit favors the prepared |

Glathull
Suicidal Panda Tears of Love and Death
56
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Posted - 2013.01.06 22:00:00 -
[98] - Quote
EvE is fun. |

No More Heroes
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2065
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Posted - 2013.01.06 22:06:00 -
[99] - Quote
Petrus Blackshell wrote:As title. What is your favorite thing that is "totally true", but is in fact complete bollocks?
Mine is probably that corp CEOs are in it to profit off the grunts via corp taxes.
When traffic-controlled on a gate, spamming the jump button makes you go through faster and also, targeting the gate.
Because sending more commands to the server just smooths everything out  Always follow orders little bees |

Lord Zim
2264
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Posted - 2013.01.06 22:24:00 -
[100] - Quote
"Hisec is actually super dangerous"
"Nullsec is safer than hisec" Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home. |
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
12519
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Posted - 2013.01.06 22:44:00 -
[101] - Quote
DeMichael Crimson wrote:RNG = Random Numeric Generator RiiiightGǪ
GǪso how is standard code a myth, again? The rest I can understand that someone clueless enough would consider myths, but this one?! GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan. |

Rico Minali
Sons Of 0din Dark Therapy
1180
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Posted - 2013.01.06 22:57:00 -
[102] - Quote
You cant pvp until you can fly XXX or have a gazillion sp.
Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing. |

Clementina
The Scope
71
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Posted - 2013.01.06 23:38:00 -
[103] - Quote
If you don't pop asteroids while mining, they come back larger and larger after downtime. |

Veronica Kerrigan
Hand Of Midas My Other Laboratory is a Distillery
58
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Posted - 2013.01.06 23:44:00 -
[104] - Quote
Mr Pragmatic wrote:Hi Sec is safe. On the other hand, there are mythical gankers everywhere that can one shot a freighter with a destroyer while in another system. (Highsec is dangerous) |

mynnna
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
110
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Posted - 2013.01.06 23:53:00 -
[105] - Quote
That goons are out to destroy the game.  You may know me better as Corestwo: https://gate.eveonline.com/Profile/corestwo
This post was crafted by a member of the GoonSwarm Federation Economic Cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online economics and gameplay. |

Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings Damu'Khonde
2299
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Posted - 2013.01.06 23:55:00 -
[106] - Quote
Hmm, I didn't realize this would be the result when I posted this thread, but...
ITT: bittervets. Rifterlings - small gang frigate PvP - low/nullsec operations, newbie-friendly, free ship program; Join today! www.rifterlings.com
Accidentally The Whole Frigate (blog) - Learning how to pew pew, one loss at a time - www.thewholefrigate.com |

Lipbite
Express Hauler
558
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Posted - 2013.01.06 23:57:00 -
[107] - Quote
EVE PvP is fun. |

Bienator II
madmen of the skies
1388
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Posted - 2013.01.07 00:02:00 -
[108] - Quote
you can't solo without OGB a eve-style bounty system https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=359105
You fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail to jump because you are cloaked |

Lykouleon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
602
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Posted - 2013.01.07 00:09:00 -
[109] - Quote
Small gang pvp is dead. Lykouleon > CYNO ME CLOSER SO I CAN HIT THEM WITH MY SWORD
Also, your boobs :o --áCCP Eterne, 2012.11.05 14:50 |

Akiyo Mayaki
Industrial Justice Corporation
85
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Posted - 2013.01.07 00:29:00 -
[110] - Quote
Kitty Bear wrote:Nerfing Highsec will fix Nulsec
I like this one. "By the better angles of our nature.." |
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Guttripper
State War Academy Caldari State
196
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Posted - 2013.01.07 00:45:00 -
[111] - Quote
Female avatars are real life women players...  |

Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
911
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Posted - 2013.01.07 01:02:00 -
[112] - Quote
That the developers take player feedback seriously.
The 'new' ivnentory system for example. This is not a signature. |

Lord Zim
2265
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Posted - 2013.01.07 01:08:00 -
[113] - Quote
If you do anything which can be seen in any way shape or form as a nerf of hisec, everyone will quit and eve will die Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home. |

Julien Brellier
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
12
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Posted - 2013.01.07 01:09:00 -
[114] - Quote
DUST 514 is groundbreaking and will be a major factor in EVE Online. |

Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
3630
|
Posted - 2013.01.07 01:31:00 -
[115] - Quote
Buffs and nerfs are clearly decided by who poasts more on the forums. The more the same replicated thread the better! Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
Twitter channel |

DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
4809
|
Posted - 2013.01.07 01:36:00 -
[116] - Quote
Tippia wrote:DeMichael Crimson wrote:RNG = Random Numeric Generator RiiiightGǪ GǪso how is standard code a myth, again? The rest I can understand that someone clueless enough would consider myths, but this one?! Clueless?
Maybe the facts will sink into some of the forum's more vocal hardheaded so-called 'Know it all' posters suffering from a 'small guy / god' complex who constantly make snide remarks with the intention of insulting others while attempting to look intellectually superior.
Oh wait, did I just jump on that bandwagon?
Damn it.
Anyway, read it and weep : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Random_number_generation
In case you can't be arsed to check facts before posting, which seems to be the case due to your reply and past history, here it is in condensed form :
Quote:A random number generator (RNG) is a computational or physical device designed to generate a sequence of numbers or symbols that lack any pattern, i.e. appear random. There are two principal methods used to generate random numbers. One measures some physical phenomenon GÇö atomic or subatomic GÇö that is expected to be random and then compensates for possible biases in the measurement process. The other uses computational algorithms that can produce long sequences of apparently random results, which are in fact completely determined by a shorter initial value, known as a seed or key. The latter type are often called pseudorandom number generators. Pseudo-random number generators (PRNGs) are algorithms that can automatically create long runs of numbers with good random properties but eventually the sequence repeats (or the memory usage grows without bound). Several computational methods for random number generation exist and may meet, with varying success, some of the statistical tests for randomness, but fall short of the goal of true randomness. A "random number generator" based solely on deterministic computation cannot be regarded as a "true" random number generator, since its output is inherently predictable. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Random_number_generation
EDIT:
Oh yeah. I forgot to include, in my honest opinion, the biggest Eve Myth of all :
Tippia is the most polite, considerate, helpful and intellectual person ever to participate in the Eve forums.

DMC |

Mildew Wolf
64
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Posted - 2013.01.07 01:59:00 -
[117] - Quote
Mature and intelligent community |

Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
13436
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Posted - 2013.01.07 02:58:00 -
[118] - Quote
DeMichael Crimson wrote:Tippia wrote:DeMichael Crimson wrote:RNG = Random Numeric Generator RiiiightGǪ GǪso how is standard code a myth, again? The rest I can understand that someone clueless enough would consider myths, but this one?! Clueless? Maybe the facts will sink into some of the forum's more vocal hardheaded so-called 'Know it all' posters suffering from a 'small guy / god' complex who constantly make snide remarks with the intention of insulting others while attempting to look intellectually superior. Oh wait, did I just jump on that bandwagon? Damn it. Anyway, read it and weep : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Random_number_generationIn case you can't be arsed to check facts before posting, which seems to be the case due to your reply and past history, here it is in condensed form : Quote:A random number generator (RNG) is a computational or physical device designed to generate a sequence of numbers or symbols that lack any pattern, i.e. appear random. There are two principal methods used to generate random numbers. One measures some physical phenomenon GÇö atomic or subatomic GÇö that is expected to be random and then compensates for possible biases in the measurement process. The other uses computational algorithms that can produce long sequences of apparently random results, which are in fact completely determined by a shorter initial value, known as a seed or key. The latter type are often called pseudorandom number generators. Pseudo-random number generators (PRNGs) are algorithms that can automatically create long runs of numbers with good random properties but eventually the sequence repeats (or the memory usage grows without bound). Several computational methods for random number generation exist and may meet, with varying success, some of the statistical tests for randomness, but fall short of the goal of true randomness. A "random number generator" based solely on deterministic computation cannot be regarded as a "true" random number generator, since its output is inherently predictable. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Random_number_generation EDIT: Oh yeah. I forgot to include, in my honest opinion, the biggest Eve Myth of all : Tippia is the most polite, considerate, helpful and intellectual person ever to participate in the Eve forums.  DMC Tippia is still correct, as he and you didn't state it had to be a true random number generator. Just saying. 
CCP Zulu..... Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience. |

Xinivrae
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
248
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Posted - 2013.01.07 05:03:00 -
[119] - Quote
DeMichael Crimson wrote:Some wiki article
Did you really just quote wikipedia to define a random number generator, then in the same breath claim that the very same random number generator that you just defined doesn't exist? Did that really just happen? |

Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings Damu'Khonde
2301
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Posted - 2013.01.07 05:06:00 -
[120] - Quote
Xinivrae wrote:DeMichael Crimson wrote:Some wiki article Did you really just quote wikipedia to define a random number generator, then in the same breath claim that the very same random number generator that you just defined doesn't exist? Did that really just happen? He was saying that Eve's RNG is not a "true RNG", ergo Tippia is wrong for somewhat implying that the Eve RNG is a true RNG. Tippia was just addressing that it is, in fact, an industry standard RNG, and not a biased RNG as some people accuse CCP of using.
DeMichael is desperate to prove Tippia wrong.
Ed:Related. Rifterlings - small gang frigate PvP - low/nullsec operations, newbie-friendly, free ship program; Join today! www.rifterlings.com
Accidentally The Whole Frigate (blog) - Learning how to pew pew, one loss at a time - www.thewholefrigate.com |
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Lledrith
Ex Caminus
26
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Posted - 2013.01.07 05:08:00 -
[121] - Quote
that everyone has an alt indy/miner in their accounts. |

Xinivrae
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
248
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Posted - 2013.01.07 05:10:00 -
[122] - Quote
Petrus Blackshell wrote:[quote=Xinivrae]He was saying that Eve's RNG is not a "true RNG", ergo Tippia is wrong for somewhat implying that the Eve RNG is a true RNG. Tippia was just addressing that it is, in fact, an industry standard RNG, and not a biased RNG as some people accuse CCP of using.
DeMichael is desperate to prove Tippia wrong.
I hadn't noticed. |

Tarvos Telesto
Blood Fanatics
700
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Posted - 2013.01.07 05:16:00 -
[123] - Quote
CCP cooperate with blizzard, soon WOW and EvE become connected virtual worlds. EvE isn't game, its style of living. |

Ghazu
451
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Posted - 2013.01.07 05:59:00 -
[124] - Quote
DeMichael Crimson wrote:Quote:What is your favorite Eve myth? Oh man, where to start? There's a lot of Eve myth's alive and doing well in this game. Players have already posted quite a few. Here's a few more Eve Myth's : WAI = Working As Intended RNG = Random Numeric Generator WIS = Walking In Stations CSM (Council of Stellar Management) candidate selection and voting is fair procedure. The 10,000 votes are legit. CSM members accurately represent and convey the opinions of the player base majority. All game mechanics are balanced and working as intended. PvP players vastly outnumber PvE players. Every career choice or player action in Eve is PvP. Creating Eve account is consenting to engage in un-consensual PvP. PvE content was created and designed strictly to fund PvP content. All player characters in NPC Corporations are Alt's. Only characters in Player made Corporations / Alliances benefit and contribute to Eve. The Forums accurately represent the opinions of the Eve Community and player base. There is no vocal minority. High Security space. Eve Is Real. Guess I added more than just a few Eve Myth's to the list. Hell, I could have added more but I realized the amount of Eve Myth's in this game is like the Energizer Bunny. It just keeps going.....and going......and going.... DMC said myth, not what you are butthurt about. http://www.minerbumping.com/ lol what the christ https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2299984#post2299984 |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
12532
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Posted - 2013.01.07 06:31:00 -
[125] - Quote
GǪand the question remains: how is it a myth?
Oh, and yes. GÇ£CluelessGÇ¥ would be an apt description for those who consider the other things you listed as myths. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan. |

Mars Theran
Red Rogue Squadron
1590
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Posted - 2013.01.07 06:59:00 -
[126] - Quote
Highsec is safe; right next to Lowsec is empty. lol zubzubzubzubzubzubzubzub |

Borlag Crendraven
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
199
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Posted - 2013.01.07 07:18:00 -
[127] - Quote
There is no PVP in Wormholes |

Debora Tsung
The Investment Bankers Guild
25
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Posted - 2013.01.07 07:25:00 -
[128] - Quote
Concord Protects. There's nothing a million chinese guys can't do cheaper. |

Remiel Pollard
Aliastra Gallente Federation
1163
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Posted - 2013.01.07 07:36:00 -
[129] - Quote
My favourite myth?
EVE is dying, man. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |

Count of MonteCylon
MonteCylon Money Acquisition and Demolition Ltd.
42
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Posted - 2013.01.07 07:47:00 -
[130] - Quote
That PvP in Eve is fair.
Like lots of new players, I came to this game with preconceptions from other MMOs where I would battle one on one against some guy with a flag strapped to his back on top of a burnt-out building. Then when I killed him I would run across a field and slam-dunk his flag into my own flag in a totally not homoerotic way.
Then I came to Eve and it was like, if you are looking for a fight in a frigate they will bring a destroyer, if you go in a destroyer they will bring a cruiser, if you bring a battlecruiser they will bring a fleet of stealth bombers with warfare links.
Basically until you accept that PvP in Eve is about being as unfair and sneaky as you possibly can be you will be getting your a- rammed every time you go out there. Buff Low-Sec: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2400257#post2400257 |
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Mc Scam
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.01.07 07:49:00 -
[131] - Quote
Every contract linked in Jita local is a scam. |

March rabbit
Federal Defense Union
469
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Posted - 2013.01.07 07:56:00 -
[132] - Quote
Eve community is amateur  |

Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings Damu'Khonde
2301
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Posted - 2013.01.07 07:56:00 -
[133] - Quote
Mc Scam wrote:Every contract linked in Jita local is a scam. Actually, I once saw a Courier contract linked there to haul stuff from one station in Jita to another. I took it, because I have bookmarks set up, and could use the 20 mil ISK it paid (the collateral was 50 mil or something). When I peeked inside, it was full of capital blueprints and skillbooks.
I never even undocked with it, and made about 900 mil that day. Best Jita local contract ever. Rifterlings - small gang frigate PvP - low/nullsec operations, newbie-friendly, free ship program; Join today! www.rifterlings.com
Accidentally The Whole Frigate (blog) - Learning how to pew pew, one loss at a time - www.thewholefrigate.com |

Kamden Line
Sovereign Citizen and other Tax Evasion Schemes
62
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Posted - 2013.01.07 08:28:00 -
[134] - Quote
Remiel Pollard wrote:My favourite myth?
EVE is dying, man.
During the whole Incarna debacle, it truly was. CCP managed to stanch the bleeding with two expansions as of late, but total active players haven't really recovered to the numbers they were pre-Incarna.
MMO deathslides are a lot like Dotlan slumps. Once they start happening it's very hard to recover. |

GreenSeed
140
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Posted - 2013.01.07 08:42:00 -
[135] - Quote
Starter NPC corps are full of carebearing cowards, who only stay on said corps to teach noobs to be as carebearish as they are. |

pussnheels
The Fiction Factory
1005
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Posted - 2013.01.07 08:51:00 -
[136] - Quote
there is a machariel bpo in the centre of each ice asteroid only reachable when you pop the ice rock
why else you have so many ice miners I do not agree with what you are saying , but i will defend to the death your right to say it...... Voltaire |

Lord Zim
2266
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Posted - 2013.01.07 08:53:00 -
[137] - Quote
we have so many ice miners because ice mining is fun Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home. |

Nicolo da'Vicenza
Air The Unthinkables
2500
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Posted - 2013.01.07 09:00:00 -
[138] - Quote
NPC corps help newbies. NPC corps should be retained for the good of the game. |

Beckie DeLey
Living From Scraps
281
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Posted - 2013.01.07 09:24:00 -
[139] - Quote
MIMAF manufacturers hurt the market. So... i started an industry blog at www.derbk.com/eve There i am preparing a guide to all things related to manufacturing. Check it out!
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Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings Damu'Khonde
2302
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Posted - 2013.01.07 09:29:00 -
[140] - Quote
Beckie DeLey wrote:MIMAF manufacturers hurt the market. TIL what MIMAF means. Rifterlings - small gang frigate PvP - low/nullsec operations, newbie-friendly, free ship program; Join today! www.rifterlings.com
Accidentally The Whole Frigate (blog) - Learning how to pew pew, one loss at a time - www.thewholefrigate.com |
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Lord Zim
2266
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Posted - 2013.01.07 09:31:00 -
[141] - Quote
Petrus Blackshell wrote:Beckie DeLey wrote:MIMAF manufacturers hurt the market. TIL what MIMAF means. Microwave International Media Art Festival Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home. |

Doddy
Excidium.
822
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Posted - 2013.01.07 09:50:00 -
[142] - Quote
Natasha Stone wrote:Audrey Thinkerbolt wrote:You can passively align your ship. Totally this. +1
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Shadow Lord77
Shadow Industries I
145
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Posted - 2013.01.07 10:20:00 -
[143] - Quote
Wacktopia wrote:That EVE would have 100000000s more subs if CCP would only remove PVP from hi sec.
#loadofrubbish
I'm not so sure about that. |

Rordan D'Kherr
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
402
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Posted - 2013.01.07 10:47:00 -
[144] - Quote
Being perma jammed. Best space myth for years... _______________________________________ Don't be scared, because being afk is not a crime. |

mama guru
Thundercats The Initiative.
86
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Posted - 2013.01.07 11:23:00 -
[145] - Quote
TWD's setup was unbeatable. ______
EVE online is the fishermans friend of MMO's. If it's too hard you are too weak. |

dexington
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
523
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Posted - 2013.01.07 11:30:00 -
[146] - Quote
Goon's are bad at eve. GÇ£The best way to keep something bad from happening is to see it ahead of time, and you can't see it if you refuse to face the possibility.GÇ¥ |

Yuri Wayfare
Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
212
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Posted - 2013.01.07 13:42:00 -
[147] - Quote
Ninja salvaging is dead. "Suddenly, trash pickers! HUNDREDS of winos going through your recyclables." -Piugattuk
Be careful what you wish for. |

Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
1116
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Posted - 2013.01.07 14:14:00 -
[148] - Quote
EVE's biggest myth is: "Everything I don't like about EVE is a myth". |

TheBlueMonkey
Don't Be a Menace That Red Alliance
331
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Posted - 2013.01.07 14:21:00 -
[149] - Quote
Eve is hard\difficult\complicated |

Desert Ice78
Cobra Kai Dojo WHY so Seri0Us
199
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Posted - 2013.01.07 14:24:00 -
[150] - Quote
Mining is not fun. I am a pod pilot: http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/DesertIce/POD.jpg
CCP Zulu: Came expecting a discussion about computer monitors, left confused. |
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Schmata Bastanold
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
508
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Posted - 2013.01.07 14:40:00 -
[151] - Quote
Eve has sound I am not my skills but... http://eveboard.com/pilot/Schmata_Bastanold |

Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
3267
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Posted - 2013.01.07 14:56:00 -
[152] - Quote
Daisai wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:Quote:Show a fight between a player with all skills in a cruiser at lvl 1 fighting another player in a tech 2 cruiser with all relevant skills at 5. Both players should know what to do and not be afk and should not get links running.
When you can show that the first player has the same amount of chance to win as the 2nd player then the myth i posted is not a myth. If you can not i suggest you join your own little gatecamp in low sec and stop fail trolling at this forum. Because 1 vs 1 is a significant, or even noticable, representation of how combat is done in EvE. Shall we check your small number of kills and see how many of them were solo and in the same ship class.    We are going a bit offtopic here. Anyway its not needed to proof to me that when you take out the variable of player real skill the outcome of a 1vs1 fight is down to skillpoints. More skillpoints in relevant skills is more ehp, more speed, more agility more dps. Basicly everything more. Still waiting of showing a video of a 1vs1 fight that shows im wrong. Wait, "when we take out the variable of player real skill then it's down to skill points", did you REALLLY say that? 
Basically you just said "well if we ignore your point and take it out of the picture, then by default I am right".   
To recap, skill points has very, very little to do with the out come of a fight... especially when you consider how easy it is to get to level 4 (which everyone does) and how long it takes to get the slight benefit of gaining level 5.
And again, nobody cares about 1vs1... including you by your killboard stats. Even in that, experience and personal skills will trump skill points most of the time.
I'm curious as to why you are asking for video proof... do you think combat videos' make a point of showing relevant skill point totals? Really?
If you want proof, go talk to experienced pilots with at least several thousand engagements under their belt, especially small gang (or even solo). They'll be happy to educate you.  To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |

Toku Jiang
Jiang Laboratories and Discovery
91
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Posted - 2013.01.07 15:15:00 -
[153] - Quote
Taxes on high sec PI make it unprofitable. |

TheBlueMonkey
Don't Be a Menace That Red Alliance
332
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Posted - 2013.01.07 15:38:00 -
[154] - Quote
Desert Ice78 wrote:Mining is not fun.
I'd argue that the fun you find is in whatever other activity you're doing while mining |

Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
3267
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Posted - 2013.01.07 15:47:00 -
[155] - Quote
On the other hand...
TheBlueMonkey wrote:Eve is hard\difficult\complicated
That all depends on what you are trying to do in EvE.
Some things are simple, some things are beyond the practical abilities of most people.
Why do you think there are so few competent FC's running around?  To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |

TheBlueMonkey
Don't Be a Menace That Red Alliance
332
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Posted - 2013.01.07 16:02:00 -
[156] - Quote
Ranger 1 wrote:On the other hand... TheBlueMonkey wrote:Eve is hard\difficult\complicated That all depends on what you are trying to do in EvE. Some things are simple, some things are beyond the practical abilities of most people. Why do you think there are so few competent FC's running around? 
I just assume I was in terrible corps ;) |

Tali Ambraelle
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
180
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Posted - 2013.01.07 16:02:00 -
[157] - Quote
That EVE is real. |

Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
1007
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Posted - 2013.01.07 16:29:00 -
[158] - Quote
CCP Devs play EVE.
CCP acts on player feedback provided via the test server.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'no.' |

Spacing Cowboy
Ordo Drakonis Nulli Secunda
59
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Posted - 2013.01.07 16:30:00 -
[159] - Quote
-A- will never disband
Drake on gate is bate
Nullsec players are all hardcore pvp players
Supers broke the game
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Bucky O'Hair
Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan
108
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Posted - 2013.01.07 16:37:00 -
[160] - Quote
Haedonism Bot wrote:CCP is ruining the game for my category of players because they only care about (insert player category here).
CCP is trying to turn EVE into WOW in space.
CCP are pets of the Goons.
Goons are actually the CIA.
Well, actually, the last one is true, I know because Glenn Beck said so.
We Are Ushra'Khan!
We are coming for our people. |
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Cyprus Black
The Learning Curve.
571
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Posted - 2013.01.07 16:37:00 -
[161] - Quote
New players can do anything on day one. Hyjinx of a Highsec Pirate http://cyprusblack.blogspot.com/ |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
12540
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Posted - 2013.01.07 16:50:00 -
[162] - Quote
Cyprus Black wrote:New players can do anything on day one. Has anyone ever actually said that, though?
It rather sounds like you're misremembering what people do say: that new players can actually do something (and a very important something at that) on day one. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan. |

Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
416
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Posted - 2013.01.07 17:09:00 -
[163] - Quote
AFK Cloakers stop people from doing stuff.
Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer / SpaceBum In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move. |

engjin
The Konvergent League Sev3rance
31
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Posted - 2013.01.07 17:47:00 -
[164] - Quote
T2 BPO owners have an unfair advantage/ you can't compete |

Muad 'dib
The Imperial Fedaykin
731
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Posted - 2013.01.07 17:48:00 -
[165] - Quote
there is a spoon http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/4375/mynewsig2.jpg |

Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
3268
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Posted - 2013.01.07 17:55:00 -
[166] - Quote
engjin wrote:T2 BPO owners have an unfair advantage Oh, that's a biggie.  To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |

Diamond Bull
State War Academy Caldari State
75
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Posted - 2013.01.07 18:14:00 -
[167] - Quote
That ship to ship PvP is the only way to play Eve "right".
That 0.0 is a fun place to live.
That hitting F1 on command is something only the elite can do.
Actually, just insert most of what people say about ship to ship PvP here.
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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
4824
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Posted - 2013.01.07 18:14:00 -
[168] - Quote
Tippia wrote:GǪand the question remains: how is it a myth? Oh, and yes. GǣCluelessGǥ would be an apt description for those who consider the other things you listed as myths.

Yeah I thought so, Reading Comprehension just isn't your Forte now is it?
However, +1 for persistence in posting snide little innuendos intended to insult and enrage.
DMC |

Djana Libra
The Black Ops Black Core Alliance
56
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Posted - 2013.01.07 18:15:00 -
[169] - Quote
because of falcon |

Kimo Khan
50
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Posted - 2013.01.07 18:29:00 -
[170] - Quote
Trust no one |
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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
1386
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Posted - 2013.01.07 18:29:00 -
[171] - Quote
Highsec is too dangerous and Nullsec doesnt have ANY completely empty systems/constellations/ entire regions..... Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
12543
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Posted - 2013.01.07 18:45:00 -
[172] - Quote
DeMichael Crimson wrote:Yeah I thought so, Reading Comprehension just isn't your Forte now is it? GǪso you can't explain how a standard piece of code used in pretty much every piece of software ever it's a myth, then? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan. |

Mirima Thurander
Static Contamination
628
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Posted - 2013.01.07 18:49:00 -
[173] - Quote
That TEST will ever be more than a Goon pet. A Dark time comes. A time of terror comes. My time. If it offends you. Stop me. |

Mirajane Cromwell
114
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Posted - 2013.01.07 19:01:00 -
[174] - Quote
There's a way to open EVE gate and through it, it's possible to reach Earth. |

Max Nebular
Smack the Pony Industries PNG Associates
3
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Posted - 2013.01.07 19:10:00 -
[175] - Quote
EVE was actually created by Ian Bell... |

Burseg Sardaukar
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
203
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Posted - 2013.01.07 19:18:00 -
[176] - Quote
Tippia wrote:Newbies can't catch up.
Myth: Newbs aren't valuable at day 1. Have a trial guy joining in war efforts 2nite in a Reaper. Hey, as a dude that lives in lowsec, you should read my idea on how to "fix" it... in Blog format, complete with a spreadsheet! http://3xxxd.blogspot.com/2012/09/how-to-buff-lowsec.html |

Dersen Lowery
Laurentson INC StructureDamage
294
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Posted - 2013.01.07 20:36:00 -
[177] - Quote
Tarvos Telesto wrote:CCP cooperate with blizzard, soon WOW and EvE become connected virtual worlds.
Wait, you mean I won't be able to launch an orbital strike on Pandaria? Damn, I was looking forward to that.
Myth: Lowsec is scary and horrible and new players should never go there. |

Jack Miton
Aperture Harmonics K162
1208
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Posted - 2013.01.07 20:52:00 -
[178] - Quote
Local is important. |

Dervinus
SniggWaffe
154
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Posted - 2013.01.07 21:03:00 -
[179] - Quote
HBC=CFC=Goons=PL=TEST blobnapfest420xxxxxx o7 toonies |

Christy D Floyd
Astra Research
159
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Posted - 2013.01.07 21:18:00 -
[180] - Quote
ISD is fair in monitoring the forums. Money is better than poverty, if only for financial reasons. |
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Sir Diablos
The Plebian Republic
8
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Posted - 2013.01.07 21:32:00 -
[181] - Quote
That Risk V Reward is relevant.
That 'Carebears' are trying to destroy Eve.
That Hisec is safe, or safer.
That balance can be achieved via Nerfs.
That Eve is just as hard and unforgiving as it's always been. The devil is in the details... |

Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
3274
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Posted - 2013.01.07 22:26:00 -
[182] - Quote
"That ship to ship PvP is the only way to play Eve "right". "
That is a myth, but if you had said "Being prepared at all times to engage in or attempt to avoid/survive ship to ship PVP is the only way to play Eve "right"." you would have been correct.
"That 0.0 is a fun place to live."
Parial myth, it all depends on where you live and who your friends are.
"That hitting F1 on command is something only the elite can do. "
Indeed a myth, anyone can hit F1... as the loss section of any kill board can attest to.
"Actually, just insert most of what people who rarely engage in combat say about ship to ship PvP here. "
Fixed that for you. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |

Khergit Deserters
621
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Posted - 2013.01.07 23:00:00 -
[183] - Quote
All miners are AFK. Not true. A lot of them are ATK alt-tabbing to Youtube, Grooveshark, email, etc. Or in some chat channel talking about the weather, trading hangover cures, solving existentialist problems, bragging about their m3/sec rates, that kind of stuff. 'The difference between you and me is, I know I'm crazy.'-á -The late Jack H.-- old Texas guy, professional fish poacher, wise man |

March rabbit
Federal Defense Union
469
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Posted - 2013.01.07 23:39:00 -
[184] - Quote
Eve Online community is more amateur than in other MMO  |

NEONOVUS
Saablast Followers
292
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Posted - 2013.01.08 00:06:00 -
[185] - Quote
Dervinus wrote:HBC=CFC=Goons=PL=TEST blobnapfest420xxxxxx Am I the only one thinking that is a molecular formula? |

Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
13444
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Posted - 2013.01.08 00:50:00 -
[186] - Quote
DeMichael Crimson wrote:Reading Comprehension just isn't your Forte now is It? No one has claimed the industry standard RNG CCP uses, is a true RNG. Because computers can't do them. So reading and comprehension, seems to be your issue.
Also, your list has no place in this thread. But I can see you'd never understand that fact.
CCP Zulu..... Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience. |

Nerath Naaris
Pink Winged Unicorns for Peace Love and Anarchy
335
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Posted - 2013.01.08 01:18:00 -
[187] - Quote
Diamond Bull wrote: That hitting F1 on command is something only the elite can do.
Ah, if after a dozen jumps you find out that people STILL can-¦t align on command in time to catch fleetwarp, I wonder about that being just a myth.....
Anyway:
That recruitment channel will help newbs find a good corp.
Forum-unbanned since 2011.10.20. |

Frostys Virpio
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
265
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Posted - 2013.01.08 05:56:00 -
[188] - Quote
Nerath Naaris wrote:[quote=Diamond Bull]
That recruitment channel will help newbs find a good corp.
This.
+1 |

luZk
x13 Whores in space
89
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Posted - 2013.01.08 06:14:00 -
[189] - Quote
Falcons are OP. |

Shamus O'Reilly
Gungnirs' Point I Know Right
49
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Posted - 2013.01.08 07:14:00 -
[190] - Quote
Mining barges are only good for mining 
http://themittani.com/news/alod-can-flip-gone-awry
Daisai wrote:Eve online pvp combat is about skill and not skillpoints.
"PVP is solely based upon SP and not piloting skill." I'm sorry but i disagree to your statement saying EVE PVP is based on skillpoints entirely if that was where you were going with it. I can agree to a certain extent that a pure PVP character 3 years old can have the advantage on a 5mil SP PVP pilot, but only through the variety of ships and modules they can use to gain the advantage. Don't get me wrong SP helps a ton in a PVP situation but if the 60mil SP pilot is an idiot the 5mil pilot who knows what he is doing can easily turn the fight in his favor.
Put it this way. Two pilots, one in a Megathron who chose to engage another in an Ishkur. If the Ishkur is orbiting at 500 from the mega and has the ammo to sustain fighting which can win if no one else shows up on field? Granted fits for each ship play a huge role in this question also but its not that long time wise to train a TII fully fitted Ishkur or an Enyo and/or training TII drones in a few weeks comparing to a TII fitted mega for its guns.
SP after a certain extent only opens you to more variety in ships and modules to fight with. The rest comes down to what you know and how you fly |
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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
4831
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Posted - 2013.01.08 07:35:00 -
[191] - Quote
Mag's wrote:No one has claimed the industry standard RNG CCP uses, is a true RNG. Because computers can't do them. So reading and comprehension, seems to be your issue. Never said anything about 'True RNG' but hey, thanks for showing us that you too also have an issue with Reading Comprehension, especially since you not only explained the Myth, you also didn't even see it after you wrote it.
Since the sequence eventually repeats itself over and over again, claiming that it's 'Random' is the Myth.
DUH
Mag's wrote:Also, your list has no place in this thread. But I can see you'd never understand that fact. Actually, my list has every right to be in this thread, a hell of a lot more than your biased opinion.
The OP was very explicit -
Petrus Blackshell wrote:What is your favorite Eve myth?
As title. What is your favorite thing that is "totally true", but is in fact complete bollocks? No where did the OP ask you or any other player to analyze, refute, disprove or discuss the Myth's others have posted in this thread, let alone do it with sarcastic insulting innuendos. Any more will be reported as off topic troll posting. |

Mars Theran
Red Rogue Squadron
1594
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Posted - 2013.01.08 08:35:00 -
[192] - Quote
Julien Brellier wrote:DUST 514 is groundbreaking and will be a major factor in EVE Online.
It's definitely ground-breaking, but I'm not sure yet how much of a factor it will be in EVE. zubzubzubzubzubzubzubzub |

Mars Theran
Red Rogue Squadron
1594
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Posted - 2013.01.08 08:36:00 -
[193] - Quote
Petrus Blackshell wrote:Mc Scam wrote:Every contract linked in Jita local is a scam. Actually, I once saw a Courier contract linked there to haul stuff from one station in Jita to another. I took it, because I have bookmarks set up, and could use the 20 mil ISK it paid (the collateral was 50 mil or something). When I peeked inside, it was full of capital blueprints and skillbooks. I never even undocked with it, and made about 900 mil that day. Best Jita local contract ever.
This is why you double the value in collateral on Courier contracts.  zubzubzubzubzubzubzubzub |

Mars Theran
Red Rogue Squadron
1594
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Posted - 2013.01.08 08:39:00 -
[194] - Quote
CCP can render and stream the graphics for 50k active players on tablet is another one I like. Real time too.  zubzubzubzubzubzubzubzub |

Seleia O'Sinnor
Drop of Honey
302
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Posted - 2013.01.08 08:40:00 -
[195] - Quote
That you need a multipages highly complex spreadsheet to undock your shuttle. New inventory: Getting better since version 1.2, but what about back and forward buttons? |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
12549
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Posted - 2013.01.08 08:42:00 -
[196] - Quote
DeMichael Crimson wrote:Never said anything about 'True RNG' ...aside from in the quote you used to (fail) to explain why the RNG was a myth, making the distinction between true and algorithmical RNG the only thing that could possibly be the source of the supposed myth.
You still haven't explained what the myth is, by the way, because the RNG certainly isn't one. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan. |

Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
3637
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Posted - 2013.01.08 08:44:00 -
[197] - Quote
NEONOVUS wrote:Dervinus wrote:HBC=CFC=Goons=PL=TEST blobnapfest420xxxxxx Am I the only one thinking that is a molecular formula?
Yes, and if you solve the equation you see the solution is "Serenity".
Yes, a testament to the utter failure of Dominion is the convergence of both servers to the end of diversity and identity. A grand failure for a game whose PvP is a cornerstone. Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
Twitter channel |

Babar Baboli
CTRL-Q Iron Oxide.
17
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Posted - 2013.01.08 08:58:00 -
[198] - Quote
The best myth is when someone told me that Rifters were the best ships in EVE.
The best truth is probably Dan Carter Murray. |

DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
4840
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Posted - 2013.01.08 10:18:00 -
[199] - Quote
Tippia wrote:You still haven't explained what the myth is, by the way, because the RNG certainly isn't one. Heh, I've heard that stubbornness can cause blindness or at the very least, a bad case of 'Selective Vision'.
Anyway, the Myth about RNG (Random Number Generation) was already stated.
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My Postman
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
90
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Posted - 2013.01.08 10:36:00 -
[200] - Quote
Monkeysphere accident, where he (and probably other pl members) did-¦nt show up in local. I-¦m sure it never happened. +90 page threadnought in gd proved me right. |
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Lost Greybeard
Drunken Yordles
222
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Posted - 2013.01.08 10:47:00 -
[201] - Quote
I'd also add "this activity is not PvP".
No matter what you're referring to, it's PvP. The economy in Eve is fundamentally competitive, and so even if you're doing nothing but PI the other people selling PI stuff have an incentive to try to nuke your hauler so they or their buddies can sell their PI stuff for higher prices. If you only do PI to feed your own station, they have an incentive to nuke your hauler (and your station) because by supporting yourself you're an opportunity cost to them (they're losing the money they should be making from you buying their stuff).
Basically, any time you think there's no reason for someone to blow you up, undermine you on the market, block your shipping routes, etc, you're fundamentally misunderstanding the nature of the game. The usual offenders are high-sec miners, who somehow don't grasp that if they put a bunch of minerals on the market other miners have to sell their minerals cheaper. |

Valleria Darkmoon
No Salvation
92
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Posted - 2013.01.08 10:48:00 -
[202] - Quote
Sec status is an indicator of how trustworthy a player is. |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
12551
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Posted - 2013.01.08 10:53:00 -
[203] - Quote
DeMichael Crimson wrote:Anyway, the Myth about RNG (Random Number Generation) was already stated. ...and it was...?
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan. |

dexington
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
523
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Posted - 2013.01.08 11:13:00 -
[204] - Quote
Tippia wrote:DeMichael Crimson wrote:RNG = Random Numeric Generator RiiiightGǪ GǪso how is standard code a myth, again? The rest I can understand that someone clueless enough would consider myths, but this one?!
How do you know what implementation eve uses as server side random number generator, it could be standard code or monkeys throwing dices for all we know, or not at all random... maybe some guy playing eve actually is able to predict the outcome of in-game evens that to others seem as random. GÇ£The best way to keep something bad from happening is to see it ahead of time, and you can't see it if you refuse to face the possibility.GÇ¥ |

Dark Drifter
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
55
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Posted - 2013.01.08 13:39:00 -
[205] - Quote
that they dont shoooot nooootrillls in greeet wild lands :P |

DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
4846
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Posted - 2013.01.08 21:31:00 -
[206] - Quote
Tippia wrote:DeMichael Crimson wrote:Anyway, the Myth about RNG (Random Number Generation) was already stated. ...and it was...? Because, no, things being random is not a myth either. RNG really is R. Heh, proof here that reading is fundamental.
Anyway, done messing round with stubborn egomaniacs. The link was previously posted and the Myth was already stated. Do your own work and look it up. |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
12570
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Posted - 2013.01.08 21:37:00 -
[207] - Quote
DeMichael Crimson wrote:Heh, proof here that reading is fundamental. Maybe you should try it then. You said that the RNG being random was a myth, which it obviously isn't. You then changed your mind to say that things being random was a myth, which it obviously isn't.
So what's the myth?
Quote:Do your own work and look it up. In other words, you can't find anything to present as a rebuttal. Unfortunately, we have that good old onus probandi. So no. You said it; you do the work; your link didn't show anything even remotely relevant. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan. |

DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
4846
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Posted - 2013.01.09 03:33:00 -
[208] - Quote
Tippia wrote:DeMichael Crimson wrote:Heh, proof here that reading is fundamental. Maybe you should try it then. You said that the RNG being random was a myth, which it obviously isn't. Physician, heal thyself and practice what you preach. I already posted a link which explained the Myth immediately after you started in on this foolish crusade of yours.
Tippia wrote:You then changed your mind to say that things being random was a myth, which it obviously isn't.
So what's the myth? Oh what tangled webs we weave.........(Unfortunately for you) I never said that. I must say it's almost sad seeing you make stuff up now.
Tippia wrote:DeMichael Crimson wrote:Do your own work and look it up. In other words, you can't find anything to present as a rebuttal. Unfortunately, we have that good old onus probandi. So no. You said it; you do the work; your link didn't show anything even remotely relevant. lol, you're definitely one stubborn blind lazy hypocrite. I already posted proof. Obviously it's too painful for you to read something that contradicts and disproves your statements. Anyway, the burden is now on you to post evidence that proves your allegations. If not, then please stop your foolish ranting. |

SpoonRECKLESS
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
3
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Posted - 2013.01.09 05:09:00 -
[209] - Quote
Test is full of sexy men. Willing to do things for isk.
The willing part is true tho.
What I have seen or heard can not be unseen or unheard. |

Signal11th
Against ALL Anomalies
865
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Posted - 2013.01.09 08:37:00 -
[210] - Quote
Haedonism Bot wrote:CCP is ruining the game for my category of players because they only care about (insert player category here).
CCP is trying to turn EVE into WOW in space.
CCP are pets of the Goons.
Goons are actually the CIA.
Well tbh I wouldn't say all of those are myths........ God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!" I came second and won a toaster. |
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Inquisitor Kitchner
Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes
803
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Posted - 2013.01.09 10:32:00 -
[211] - Quote
Lost Greybeard wrote: Sovereignty null is significantly safer for pure PvE than high sec
^^^ That is my favourite myth.
Though the guy I'm quoting said it unironically, which makes me sad. "If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli |

Roime
Shiva Furnace
1577
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Posted - 2013.01.09 10:36:00 -
[212] - Quote
"Drone boats"
"Kiting is harder than brawling"
"Hisec is not a starter zone done horribly wrong"
"CCP needs mission runner subs"
"+5s"
Shiva Furnace is recruiting! Small gang PVP in wormholes and lowsec. |

Mehashi 'Kho
Idiot with a gun
46
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Posted - 2013.01.09 12:33:00 -
[213] - Quote
X is balanced, you are just jelly coz you don't have an X. Get an X of your own and see how balanced it is!
Sec status is relevant to player type.
OGB is a way for a smaller gang to take on a larger one.
Jovian space will be opened in a future expansion.
WIS will provide ample entertainment return for time invested. |

Rawk Chick
Temporal Mechanics
0
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Posted - 2013.01.09 12:42:00 -
[214] - Quote
EVE is a Sandbox... |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
12576
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Posted - 2013.01.09 12:47:00 -
[215] - Quote
DeMichael Crimson wrote:Physician, heal thyself and practice what you preach. I already posted a link which explained the Myth immediately after you started in on this foolish crusade of yours. No, you posted a link that explained what an RNG is, and it showed that no, it's not a myth.
You first claimed that GÇ£RNG = Random Numeric GeneratorGÇ¥ is a myth. You then provided a link that rather showed that it isn't GÇö that's what an RNG is, and that's what it does. At most, it's a spelling error, but then it's your error, not a myth.
Quote:Oh what tangled webs we weave.........(Unfortunately for you) I never said that. GǪexcept, of course, that you did. Specifically, you revised your statment to Gǣclaiming that it's 'Random' is the MythGǥ, which is not only different from what you said first, but also complete nonsense. The RNG in EVE affects a ridiculous amount of things. You'd have to be a lot more specific than that if you want to call it a myth (and even then, you'll probably be wrong due to how much die-rolling there is around here).
Quote:I already posted proof. Obviously it's too painful for you to read something that contradicts and disproves your statements. Maybe it would be if you posted something that proved me wrong or contradicted me. Instead, you posted something that proved your first claim wrong and had nothing to do with your revised claim.
So, we're back to the same old question: what's the myth? Because no, the RNG is not a myth, nor is its influence on a vast array of things in EVE. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan. |

Zyxtyr
Chocobo Knights
6
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Posted - 2013.01.09 16:23:00 -
[216] - Quote
My favourite one is ... thank you for contacting us, but our logs show nothing.... |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
2368
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Posted - 2013.01.09 16:29:00 -
[217] - Quote
You have to join a corp/alliance to get into nullsec. |

Alpheias
Euphoria Released Verge of Collapse
1841
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Posted - 2013.01.09 16:34:00 -
[218] - Quote
That role-players and hi-sec carebears, like DeMichael Crimson, are entitled to something whether it is a a safe haven, incarna or that they have the power to ban players that they don't like from EVE. Allow me to be frank. You will not like me. You will not like me now, and you will not like men++ a good deal less as we go on. |

ing SpeedyJ
Spiritus Draconis Sicarius Draconis
0
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Posted - 2013.01.09 19:05:00 -
[219] - Quote
U can play EvE with joystick. |

Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
1129
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Posted - 2013.01.09 19:27:00 -
[220] - Quote
Tippia wrote:DeMichael Crimson wrote:Physician, heal thyself and practice what you preach. I already posted a link which explained the Myth immediately after you started in on this foolish crusade of yours. No, you posted a link that explained what an RNG is, and it showed that no, it's not a myth. You first claimed that GÇ£RNG = Random Numeric GeneratorGÇ¥ is a myth. You then provided a link that rather showed that it isn't GÇö that's what an RNG is, and that's what it does. At most, it's a spelling error, but then it's your error, not a myth. Quote:Oh what tangled webs we weave.........(Unfortunately for you) I never said that. GǪexcept, of course, that you did. Specifically, you revised your statment to GÇ£claiming that it's 'Random' is the MythGÇ¥, which is not only different from what you said first, but also complete nonsense. The RNG in EVE affects a ridiculous amount of things. You'd have to be a lot more specific than that if you want to call it a myth (and even then, you'll probably be wrong due to how much die-rolling there is around here). Quote:I already posted proof. Obviously it's too painful for you to read something that contradicts and disproves your statements. Maybe it would be if you posted something that proved me wrong or contradicted me. Instead, you posted something that proved your first claim wrong and had nothing to do with your revised claim. So, we're back to the same old question: what's the myth? Because no, the RNG is not a myth, nor is its influence on a vast array of things in EVE.
Maybe his definition of myth is different or something lol. As I've learned, with some human beings, not amount of proof will suffice.
Such discussions remind me of this skit lol .
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Kahega Amielden
Rifterlings Damu'Khonde
576
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Posted - 2013.01.09 19:50:00 -
[221] - Quote
-CCP refuses to balance certain broken mechanics out of fear of backlash from the players who use those mechanics.
-PVP is (necessarily) expensive.
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Marius Deterium
Crush Kill Destroy
0
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Posted - 2013.01.09 19:50:00 -
[222] - Quote
Xinivrae wrote: Second part is a forum drama queen myth. Most people in EVE know you can go to Low and Null and not get sploded so long as you just want to go there and not do stuff. Undock a miner or a PvE fit and watch them come out of the wood work.
False.
My corp lives exclusively in low sec. I don't think any of us has ever been blown up when we were not seeking a fight. You must just be terrible at low sec. |

Shamus O'Reilly
Gungnirs' Point I Know Right
50
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Posted - 2013.01.09 22:51:00 -
[223] - Quote
Marius Deterium wrote:Xinivrae wrote: Second part is a forum drama queen myth. Most people in EVE know you can go to Low and Null and not get sploded so long as you just want to go there and not do stuff. Undock a miner or a PvE fit and watch them come out of the wood work.
False. My corp lives exclusively in low sec. I don't think any of us has ever been blown up when we were not seeking a fight. You must just be terrible at low sec.
This ^ I've not only took part in lowsec mining ops but also seen many other groups lowsec mining. If you're smart it works well so does mission running |

Velarra
189
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Posted - 2013.01.09 23:09:00 -
[224] - Quote
Ambulation. |

Xinivrae
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
256
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Posted - 2013.01.09 23:26:00 -
[225] - Quote
Marius Deterium wrote:Xinivrae wrote: Second part is a forum drama queen myth. Most people in EVE know you can go to Low and Null and not get sploded so long as you just want to go there and not do stuff. Undock a miner or a PvE fit and watch them come out of the wood work.
False. My corp lives exclusively in low sec. I don't think any of us has ever been blown up when we were not seeking a fight. You must just be terrible at low sec.
I didn't write that at all.  |

Sisohiv
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
228
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Posted - 2013.01.09 23:30:00 -
[226] - Quote
Xinivrae wrote:Marius Deterium wrote:Xinivrae wrote: Second part is a forum drama queen myth. Most people in EVE know you can go to Low and Null and not get sploded so long as you just want to go there and not do stuff. Undock a miner or a PvE fit and watch them come out of the wood work.
False. My corp lives exclusively in low sec. I don't think any of us has ever been blown up when we were not seeking a fight. You must just be terrible at low sec. I didn't write that at all. 
Based on the cookie cutter, troll post hand book response, I wouldn't worry about it. |

Kimimaro Yoga
The Praxis Initiative Gentlemen's Agreement
10
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Posted - 2013.01.09 23:45:00 -
[227] - Quote
Autopilot is a horrible thing that will get you killed regardless of circumstances.
Or more general, "Activity X is a horribly dangerous thing that will result in your immediate destruction". Already seen a couple of those on this thread, seems to be a common pattern for some reason. |

Glathull
Suicidal Panda Tears of Love and Death
71
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Posted - 2013.01.11 07:56:00 -
[228] - Quote
Holy God, the RNG back and forth is making me want to hit a kitten in the throat. With a knife.
DMC, what is your point? Is your point that pseudo-random number generators are not truly random? Is your point that RNG is a myth because, in all likelihood, EvE uses pseudo-random numbers instead of truly random numbers?
If that's your point, you are being a pedant. The difference is entirely philosophical. The Wikipedia link you posted explained that pRNGs generate random sequences sufficient to meet the statistical requirements that randomness is measured by. That is, given a sufficient number of trials, the average of the sample will be the mean of whatever the prescribed probability distribution is, and that the sample will contain a pattern of values that does not appear to be deterministic.
Even the most basic RNG boilerplate code can generate sequences that will not be repeated a single time for a couple hundred million years. You do this by seeding RNG generated seeds to the RNG. Nest until satisfied. I get that this fails on the level of actually being non-deterministic. But it satisfies the actuality of appearing to be non-deterministic as well as the natural (but not formally required) assumption that it shouldn't be predictable. Because it isn't predictable.
If you have a copy of the code used in an RNG, you can't simply say "Okay, code. Give me the result of the 450 billionth trial." It doesn't work like that without actually executing 450 billion trials. Besides, even if you had the exact code CCP uses, you have no way of knowing which trial you are looking at for a given operation. It is functionally non-deterministic even though the function itself is determined. Lookup NP-complete problems.
If your point is that randomness doesn't exist at all, you are making a statement of what amounts to faith. It's the same type of assertion that "God doesn't exist" is. It is a completely philosophical belief that everything is determined already. And it's fine for you to say that randomness is a myth.
But it's most certainly not an EvE myth. It's a statement about what you believe about life, the universe, and everything. It's an assertion about reality, and, as many on this thread have pointed out, EvE isn't actually real. To repeat, the skill split is scheduled for the big Summer 2013 expansion. ~CCP Fozzie |
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