Apostrof Ahashion wrote:Just to point out one more time how much Harbinger is nerfed, and that the"nerfed" Hurricane is the same as before, considering the nerfs to other hulls even better than before.
Fitting both ships with just the guns the Harbinger is left with 279 CPU and 533 PG, Hurricane has 387 CPU and 575 PG left. That puts the "nerfed" Hurricane 108 CPU and 42 PG above the Harbinger to spend on same number of slots. And this is considering AWU 5.
Hurricane is considerably faster than Harbinger, having more than 200m/s advantage over it when both are shield tanked and MWD fit. Not to mention much better acceleration and agility. Hurricane is still the fastest BC (the new Cyclone is ~20m/s faster when both are MWD fitted.).
Too add even more salt to the wound now Hurricane even has better tank, getting actually buffed overall in the tanking department while the Harbinger was hit hard, especially the shield. Now since we cant really talk about armor tanked setups (since Harbinger cant even fit a 1600 plate, propulsion and guns without and implant, and just one heat sink wound push it over the limit), before this Harbinger had a healthy 3k more EHP than Hurricane, and that was ok considering it is a much slower ship, and that Harbinger pilot needed implants and AWU5 to actually fit such a tank while Hurricane pilots could get it with AWU3 and still some PG to spare. Now shield tanked canes have more EHP and are still much faster.
And when we add capacitor problems in the picture it just gets better. To be fair Harbinger has much better damage projection over 10 kilometers thanks to scorch ammo and will considerably outdamage the Hurricane at those distances, but considering its speed it cant really kite anything and its tracking is so terrible that anything that comes closer to those 10 kilometers probably wont get hit at all. So in a nutshell Hurricane has better tank, more speed, incredibly easier fitting and (depending on situation) comparable damage.
Harbinger needs to have some fitting options without implants, the nerfs are too much. It should not be a fast ship, it would be op with scorch, but it at least needs a good tank. And you ppl could really try and fix the Hurricane, one neut less does not really make a difference, especially now when most other battlecruisers lost their utility slots as well, and it even got a better tank. It is now even better than before, with nerfs to the drake the cane is now the by far the best battlecruiser, its not even debatable anymore.