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DrunkenNinja
Grim Determination Academy
Nulli Tertius
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Posted - 2013.01.09 09:01:00 -
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So, I saw the changes to the cyclone becoming a missile boat and it got me thinking: "Maybe now they'll make the Naga a torpedo ship?"
From my understanding, the role of the Naga is largely similar to that of the Talos.
So what if in the upcoming balance changes, the Naga was given bonuses to siege missile launchers? |
ACE McFACE
Holy Amarrian Battlemonk
I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
1055
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Posted - 2013.01.09 09:03:00 -
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When they told the community about the new BCs the Naga was supposed to have 8 launchers (The Talos was also supposed to have a web strength bonus like the Vindicator) but they decided it was too overpowered
"No one drove in New York, there was too much traffic." |
DrunkenNinja
Grim Determination Academy
Nulli Tertius
93
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Posted - 2013.01.09 09:04:00 -
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Yes, but what if they readjusted the balance to make it on par with the turret BCs? |
Roime
Shiva Furnace
1576
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Posted - 2013.01.09 09:04:00 -
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Why?
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Grey Azorria
Federation Industries
231
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Posted - 2013.01.09 09:05:00 -
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The Naga used to be a torp boat, back when it was first on Sisi - but it sucked.
Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.
Mate. |
Gempei
CHAOS SQUAD
Nulli Legio
33
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Posted - 2013.01.09 09:09:00 -
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No. |
DrunkenNinja
Grim Determination Academy
Nulli Tertius
93
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Posted - 2013.01.09 09:14:00 -
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Because missile users don't have a "T3" BC? |
Opertone
Aurora Empire
Fuzzy Nut Attack Squirrels
277
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Posted - 2013.01.09 09:19:00 -
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HMMM, can we have naga both ways?
8 Launchers 8 Turrets? |
Gempei
CHAOS SQUAD
Nulli Legio
34
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Posted - 2013.01.09 09:22:00 -
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DrunkenNinja wrote:Because missile users don't have a "T3" BC?
we dont need useless torp ship 
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Ohishi
Apocalypse Reign
2
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Posted - 2013.01.09 09:23:00 -
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Only if they make cruise missiles not suck. |
dexington
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
524
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Posted - 2013.01.09 09:24:00 -
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Opertone wrote:HMMM, can we have naga both ways?
8 Launchers 8 Turrets?
With no ship bonus to launchers?
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Roime
Shiva Furnace
1576
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Posted - 2013.01.09 09:28:00 -
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DrunkenNinja wrote:Because missile users don't have a "T3" BC?
Gallente "Drone users" don't have one either? Amarr "missile users" don't have one either? Amarr "drone users" don't have one either? etc.
Not all ship classes have options supporting all racial weapon systems, and I don't really see this as something that varrants changes in current ships. Maybe introduce new ships instead?
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Grey Azorria
Federation Industries
232
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Posted - 2013.01.09 09:29:00 -
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Opertone wrote:HMMM, can we have naga both ways?
8 Launchers 8 Turrets?
That's exactly how it was at first, with bonuses to both. And as I already mentioned, it sucked.
Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.
Mate. |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
6883
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Posted - 2013.01.09 09:38:00 -
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DrunkenNinja wrote:So, I saw the changes to the cyclone becoming a missile boat and it got me thinking: "Maybe now they'll make the Naga a torpedo ship?"
From my understanding, the role of the Naga is largely similar to that of the Talos.
So what if in the upcoming balance changes, the Naga was given bonuses to siege missile launchers?
Then it would thoroughly wreck what is currently an excellent ship.
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
6883
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Posted - 2013.01.09 09:39:00 -
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DrunkenNinja wrote:Because missile users don't have a "T3" BC?
And Hybrid turret users don't have a tier 2 BC.
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BrutalButFair
Fleet of the Damned
Happy Endings
58
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Posted - 2013.01.09 09:42:00 -
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DrunkenNinja wrote:Because missile users don't have a "T3" BC?
I completly agree. And also because caldari are primarily missile users. |
Roime
Shiva Furnace
1576
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Posted - 2013.01.09 09:48:00 -
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BrutalButFair wrote:DrunkenNinja wrote:Because missile users don't have a "T3" BC? I completly agree. And also because caldari are primarily missile users.
What lead you to that conclusion? Not facts, I'd guess.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
12574
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Posted - 2013.01.09 09:50:00 -
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BrutalButFair wrote:I completly agree. And also because caldari are primarily missile users. Nah. Caldari are primarily missile and hybrid users. The Naga fits that bill perfectly as is and it would be a shame to ruin a ship for no good reason.
What they certainly don't need more of is meh-ish missile boats.
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James Amril-Kesh
RAZOR Alliance
3146
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Posted - 2013.01.09 09:52:00 -
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The role of the Naga is nothing like the Talos.
The Naga is much better suited to railgun work, although it can be made to work fine with blasters, just not quite as well as a Talos.
The Talos is much better suited to blasters, although it can be made to work fine with railguns, although not nearly as well as a Naga.
And saying Caldari are primarily missile users is like saying Gallente are primarily drone users. It's really only half of the story.
Phrases like "you can't nerf / buff X EVE is a Sandbox" have the same amount of meaning as "If this is a sack of potatoes then you can not carrot." - Alara IonStorm |
Inquisitor Kitchner
Galaxy Punks
Executive Outcomes
803
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Posted - 2013.01.09 09:56:00 -
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No.
"If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
6885
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Posted - 2013.01.09 09:59:00 -
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Let me break it down for you:
Don't. Touch. My. Naga.
MatrixSkye Mk2: "Remember: You consent to unconsensual PVP the moment you press the "Undock" button." |
Debora Tsung
The Investment Bankers Guild
25
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Posted - 2013.01.09 10:07:00 -
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Grey Azorria wrote:Opertone wrote:HMMM, can we have naga both ways?
8 Launchers 8 Turrets? That's exactly how it was at first, with bonuses to both. And as I already mentioned, it sucked.
****** torp Skills?
There's nothing a million chinese guys can't do cheaper. |
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
447
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Posted - 2013.01.09 10:16:00 -
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DrunkenNinja wrote:From my understanding, the role of the Naga is largely similar to that of the Talos
Lol at all.
Talos is a heck of a brawler Naga a heck of a sniper. When you can perfectly fly both you know which one you'll take to your fleet/gang.
I'm not saying Caldari should not have some tier 3 BC able to spit missiles but those rails are do dam perfect on it imho it would be a waste of the hull for tears and moaning.
Already expect:
"meh wants to shoot torps at 200km with +10% dmg per BC lvl"
"meh wants cruise missiles with +25% dmg per BC lvl"
Whatever, I can fly them all and use whatever crap they might put on it, call me when it's done plz. |
Gilbaron
Free-Space-Ranger
796
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Posted - 2013.01.09 10:44:00 -
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for some reason the naga usecases overlap with those of the oracle.
however, its an excellent ship and CCP should absolutely NOT remove its current functionality. adding missile functionality would be cool, but really difficult
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Wacktopia
Noir.
Black Legion.
407
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Posted - 2013.01.09 10:59:00 -
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DrunkenNinja wrote:So, I saw the changes to the cyclone becoming a missile boat and it got me thinking: "Maybe now they'll make the Naga a torpedo ship?"
From my understanding, the role of the Naga is largely similar to that of the Talos.
So what if in the upcoming balance changes, the Naga was given bonuses to siege missile launchers?
I hope to god not. Naga is probably my favourite sniper boat and that insta-damage matters.
I can't see CCP adding 8 launcher hardpoints and a launcher bonus as well as the gun hardpoints and bonuses.
The bottom line is that now I have one of those annoying signatures. |
terzho
StarFleet Enterprises
Red Alliance
89
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Posted - 2013.01.09 11:02:00 -
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The naga is sexy with railguns. DON'T YOU DARE MAKE IT A TORPEDO BOAT!!! |
GallowsCalibrator
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
217
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Posted - 2013.01.09 11:56:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Let me break it down for you:
Don't. Touch. My. Naga.
For functionality I'd agree with you, but;
Even if the ship sucked, an 8 launcher naga with torpedoes would LOOK pretty cool when firing. Completely ineffective except against caps (Rage torps, 8 launchers, ROF bonus, would vomit DPS), but cool-looking ineffectiveness.
Maybe when a balance pass hits battleship launchers then the naga could take a deserved place as a torpedo boat I guess? |
Grey Azorria
Federation Industries
233
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Posted - 2013.01.09 12:07:00 -
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It's deserved place is as the railgun sniper it already is.
When the battleships get rebalanced, there is a chance that the Caldari will get a new attack battleship, this can be you're torp boat brawler, not the Naga, never the Naga.
Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.
Mate. |
Fanatic Row
DED Drug Enforcement Department
0
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Posted - 2013.01.09 12:20:00 -
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Torps and Cruises suck.
Now granted torp fits have a few niche uses, but you don't want torps fitted on anything fighting sub-BS pew pew.
You most definitely don't want torps on your mobile oversized guns platform. |
Edey
27
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Posted - 2013.01.09 12:21:00 -
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DrunkenNinja wrote:So, I saw the changes to the cyclone becoming a missile boat and it got me thinking: "Maybe now they'll make the Naga a torpedo ship?"
From my understanding, the role of the Naga is largely similar to that of the Talos.
So what if in the upcoming balance changes, the Naga was given bonuses to siege missile launchers?
Why would you want a gimped ship?
Missiles suck, and upcoming patch is going to nerf them even more.
It would be cooler if Naga had drones or something else. |
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