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Boudacca Sangrere
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.01.09 13:25:00 -
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Why would you want a gimped ship?
Missiles suck, and upcoming patch is going to nerf them even more.
It would be cooler if Naga had drones or something else.[/quote]
Any data on the upcoming patch missile nerf?
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Romvex
423
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Posted - 2013.01.09 13:28:00 -
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Who cares, dat talos with the web strength bonus would have been BOSS
Post with your main |
Sentient Blade
Walk It Off
707
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Posted - 2013.01.09 13:30:00 -
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I was actually annoyed they didn't put the Naga as torps, but after having flown it, I'm glad to say I was wrong. Rail naga is awesome. |
Danny John-Peter
New Eden Renegades
Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
182
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Posted - 2013.01.09 13:34:00 -
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Why would you break what is probably the best LR skirmish ship in the game? |
Lady Ayeipsia
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
509
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Posted - 2013.01.09 13:43:00 -
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I don't get why everyone is freaking out about adding torp function to the Naga.
Nothing else on the ship would change. All it would get is 8 launcher hard points that could fit Torps only. Addin a leveled bonus of say 5% rate of fire per bc level. Nothing else would change. Then you still have the great rail sniper, and you have a high dps torp boat when killing structures or cap ships. |
Panhead4411
Rothschild's Sewage and Septic Sucking Services
The Possum Lodge
283
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Posted - 2013.01.09 14:07:00 -
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GallowsCalibrator wrote:
Completely ineffective except against caps (Rage torps, 8 launchers, ROF bonus, would vomit DPS), but cool-looking ineffectiveness.
So, your saying a Rail Naga is really effective against caps? Or anything sub BS at mid/close range and moving at all?
Sorta on point, there really needs to be an 8 launcher missile ship, and no, Torps didn't get hit with the nerf bat, they actually got a slight buff with the extra skills and rigs that now apply to give them boosts.
It didn't keep the missiles b/c CCP decided it would look ******** b/c they were lazy on the missile hardpoint rework and didn't have it even half started in time for Naga launch. Also, a Torp Naga is appropriate bonuses wouldn't suck, and would be in no way as OP as a blaster Talos. Which btw, the most common pvp Talos fit is a shield tank, which the Naga does better with only slightly less DPS but better range.
http://blog.beyondreality.se/shift-click-does-nothing -á-á < Unified Inventory is NOT ready... |
Edey
27
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Posted - 2013.01.09 14:18:00 -
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Any data on the upcoming patch missile nerf?
TDs are going to affect missiles. |
dexington
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
525
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Posted - 2013.01.09 14:20:00 -
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Edey wrote:Quote:
Any data on the upcoming patch missile nerf?
TDs are going to affect missiles.
So are tracking computers and enhancers.
GÇ£The best way to keep something bad from happening is to see it ahead of time, and you can't see it if you refuse to face the possibility.GÇ¥ |
Edey
27
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Posted - 2013.01.09 14:39:00 -
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dexington wrote:Edey wrote:Quote:
Any data on the upcoming patch missile nerf?
TDs are going to affect missiles. So are tracking computers and enhancers.
It doesn't really matter.
2 TDs will make any missiles useless.
-60% x2 on range is just too much.
Let's say your Drake has 60km missile range. 2 TDs will make it 9km.
Still love the idea? |
dexington
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
525
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Posted - 2013.01.09 14:47:00 -
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Edey wrote:dexington wrote:Edey wrote:Quote:
Any data on the upcoming patch missile nerf?
TDs are going to affect missiles. So are tracking computers and enhancers. It doesn't really matter. 2 TDs will make any missiles useless. -60% x2 on range is just too much. Let's say your Drake has 60km missile range. 2 TDs will make it 9km. Still love the idea?
I don't use missiles, i wouldn't care less, but that's how it's already works on turrets. Besides using tracking computers or enhancers when not disrupted is going to reduce normal damage degradation, similar to how it works for turrets.
GÇ£The best way to keep something bad from happening is to see it ahead of time, and you can't see it if you refuse to face the possibility.GÇ¥ |
Zimmy Zeta
RvB - RED Federation
5415
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Posted - 2013.01.09 15:00:00 -
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OK...you want a fast and mobile ship that can spit out torpedoes.
Since torpedoes have a rather short range, wouldn't it be great if this ship could also cloak to safely approach its target?
And maybe even use covert ops cloaks and get a bonus to it?
Perhaps even let it launch bombs?
Yeah, CCP should totally make such a ship.
Morgan Freeman ordered me to self-destruct....now what's your excuse? |
bufnitza calatoare
Nex Angelus.
Unclaimed.
51
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Posted - 2013.01.09 15:14:00 -
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DrunkenNinja wrote:Because missile users don't have a "T3" BC?
no fuckign one has a t3 bc |
Ginger Barbarella
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
1089
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Posted - 2013.01.09 15:40:00 -
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Zimmy Zeta wrote:OK...you want a fast and mobile ship that can spit out torpedoes.
Since torpedoes have a rather short range, wouldn't it be great if this ship could also cloak to safely approach its target?
And maybe even use covert ops cloaks and get a bonus to it?
Perhaps even let it launch bombs?
Yeah, CCP should totally make such a ship.
I agree, we TOTALLY need a ship like this... 
Hey, wait a second...
"Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." -á --- Sorlac |
Ginger Barbarella
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
1089
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Posted - 2013.01.09 15:41:00 -
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bufnitza calatoare wrote:DrunkenNinja wrote:Because missile users don't have a "T3" BC? no fuckign one has a t3 bc
Just another nub using the wrong terms, settle down there, Skippy. 
"Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." -á --- Sorlac |
Sarah Schneider
PonyWaffe
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1822
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Posted - 2013.01.09 15:51:00 -
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If CCP changed Naga to a missile boat because of this thread, I'm going to hate you forever OP.
How to : Playing Eve 100% Risk and Conflict FREE! |
Edey
27
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Posted - 2013.01.09 16:14:00 -
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Sarah Schneider wrote:If CCP changed Naga to a missile boat because of this thread, I'm going to hate you forever OP.
Same thing, I don't want a gimped ship. |
Estella Osoka
Deep Void Merc Syndicate
31
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Posted - 2013.01.09 16:15:00 -
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With the recent missile changes, I wonder how the Naga would fare with torps now? Or cruise missiles? |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
3299
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Posted - 2013.01.09 16:18:00 -
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Edey wrote:dexington wrote:Edey wrote:Quote:
Any data on the upcoming patch missile nerf?
TDs are going to affect missiles. So are tracking computers and enhancers. It doesn't really matter. 2 TDs will make any missiles useless. -60% x2 on range is just too much. Let's say your Drake has 60km missile range. 2 TDs will make it 9km. Still love the idea?
Interesting figures you are using, considering even CCP has no idea how much or how little TD's will affect missile performance.
It is unlikely that it will use the same numbers for missiles as it does for guns, however even if it did, by your logic all turret ships would be useless as well.  (I could be wrong, but I believe TD effects stack as well).
In fact, they aren't sure if they will expand the capabilities of TD's, TC's, and TE's or if they will instead go with a completely new set of modules that affect missiles instead (to reduce any confusion, and avoid the above being potentially overpowered).
To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors.
If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
6888
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Posted - 2013.01.09 16:19:00 -
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Estella Osoka wrote:With the recent missile changes, I wonder how the Naga would fare with torps now? Or cruise missiles?
I'd expect that it would still be pretty bad.
MatrixSkye Mk2: "Remember: You consent to unconsensual PVP the moment you press the "Undock" button." |
Opertone
Aurora Empire
Fuzzy Nut Attack Squirrels
278
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Posted - 2013.01.09 17:11:00 -
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Dear CCP,
please reintroduce Naga's 8 missile hardpoints and +5% ROF bonus
leave rail gun bonuses and 8 turrets too
we don't mind poor hardpoint placement |
Altrue
Exploration Frontier inc
289
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Posted - 2013.01.09 18:34:00 -
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We don't need an useless torp boat, and the naga is doing very fine currently with blasters.
Look at my eye... |
Lady Ayeipsia
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
509
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Posted - 2013.01.09 18:35:00 -
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Opertone wrote:Dear CCP,
please reintroduce Naga's 8 missile hardpoints and +5% ROF bonus
leave rail gun bonuses and 8 turrets too
we don't mind poor hardpoint placement
Hell, the thing can shoot Torps out its butt for all I care, i just want a bc hull that has 8 torp launchers. |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
1458
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Posted - 2013.01.09 18:40:00 -
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OP, if CCP ruins my Naga because they listened to you...there will be consequences...at least 100k worth 
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
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CCP Ytterbium
C C P
C C P Alliance
1423
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Posted - 2013.01.09 18:46:00 -
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This thread again?
Sorry, but answer is still no . |
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Galaxy Pig
New Order Logistics
CODE.
616
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Posted - 2013.01.09 18:48:00 -
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Can it have torps, but also not suck? Can we do that? |
Galaxy Pig
New Order Logistics
CODE.
616
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Posted - 2013.01.09 18:49:00 -
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Oh, ok... |
NEONOVUS
Saablast Followers
294
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Posted - 2013.01.09 19:29:00 -
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You make me upset by challenging my beleif that the Devs not only don't read forum threads, but also are not masters of humor, orators of renown, and very nice people.
Thank you. |
Zimmy Zeta
RvB - RED Federation
5457
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Posted - 2013.01.09 19:34:00 -
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Phew..thanks. What a relief.
Have my kids, Ytterbium.
Well, actually, I don't have any, but should you still want them, I could try to get some for you.....
Morgan Freeman ordered me to self-destruct....now what's your excuse? |
XxRTEKxX
Fenrir's Dogs of War
Union 0f Revolution
45
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Posted - 2013.01.09 19:34:00 -
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DrunkenNinja wrote:So, I saw the changes to the cyclone becoming a missile boat and it got me thinking: "Maybe now they'll make the Naga a torpedo ship?"
From my understanding, the role of the Naga is largely similar to that of the Talos.
So what if in the upcoming balance changes, the Naga was given bonuses to siege missile launchers?
I wish they would make it a torp boat. Pissed me off when they initially decided to make it a hybrid only ship. 4 new ships added to the game, and none were missile boats. 4 weapon platforms in game, projectiles, missiles, hybrids, and lasers. They should have kept to that model per race on the new Battlectuisers. Just my opinion. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
12579
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Posted - 2013.01.09 19:42:00 -
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XxRTEKxX wrote:4 weapon platforms in game, projectiles, missiles, hybrids, and lasers. GǪand drones (and smartbombs), spread unevenly across four races with each race having two main weapon systems. So without at least 8 new BCs, it wouldn't be possible spread them out properly anyway. Also, it's not like a Caldari BC wasn't already one of the primary missile platforms in the game, so why add another?
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan. |
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