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SugarDaddy
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Posted - 2005.06.18 21:31:00 -
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Can any1 plz explaim me why some ppl just dont pay you??
I have declared war on 2 diferent corps and they rather die and lose all their implants them pay me.....
1 corp died cause of the war and the other one is losing members daily.....
Theyve lost over 300mil on my pods....and all i asked was 100.....
Dont know waht to do .....I just want some isk... |
Taz Devlin
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Posted - 2005.06.18 21:38:00 -
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Have you tried mining? I hear it's quite profitable.
Want some cocoa?
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Silver Night
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Posted - 2005.06.18 21:47:00 -
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Edited by: Silver Night on 18/06/2005 21:54:43 Well, I know when pirte corps have declared on my corp, we have never paid. There are a couple reasons. Being a primarily empire corp, it is viewed as an opportunity to gain PvP experience. Its also thought a bad idea to pay off corps to end war, as you will make yourself a target known to give in to extortion in the future. To be honest, most directors in a large manufacturing corperation have enough money to independantly hire a merc corperation if its really needed; that is if we can't handle a war on our own. This option is considered prefferable, because punishing your enemy is usally funner than paying them off, even if it costs a little more.
Edit: Of course, our situation may not be typical. We usually do ok in PvP because we have a few members who know thier stuff, many empire corps probably don't. ------------------ Silver Night Director - Production and Science (\_/)This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature (O.o)to help him on his way to World Domination. (> <) |
Amrotis
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Posted - 2005.06.18 23:16:00 -
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People would rather fight for their isk than give it away. Judging by the orignal post, I'd say they were doing the sensible thing. |
Navdaq
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Posted - 2005.06.18 23:25:00 -
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Originally by: SugarDaddy Can any1 plz explaim me why some ppl just dont pay you??
I have declared war on 2 diferent corps and they rather die and lose all their implants them pay me.....
1 corp died cause of the war and the other one is losing members daily.....
Theyve lost over 300mil on my pods....and all i asked was 100.....
Dont know waht to do .....I just want some isk...
You're funny.
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Deja Thoris
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Posted - 2005.06.18 23:48:00 -
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I fly a large mining barge and an iteron V.
Please wardec me
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Randuin MaraL
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Posted - 2005.06.19 09:26:00 -
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Edited by: Randuin MaraL on 19/06/2005 09:27:01 Q: "Why some players dont pay Pirates?"
What about ... A: They extort others themselves. A: They do not want to, by principle. A: They prefer dying before paying you. A: They just form a new corporation without letting you know. A: They are rich enough to ignore you. A: You asked for too much.
edited/added: A: They look forward to enjoy hunting you and your people.
See, there are many reasons ...
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slothe
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Posted - 2005.06.19 09:40:00 -
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i never have and never would. id rather lose lots of money than pay.
daft i know but..
Say hello on our forum @www.aserea.com or join our public channel ingame "MLM Public" lordmix >... i helped a corp m8 pull it off |
Phuze
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Posted - 2005.06.19 10:58:00 -
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Leno
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Posted - 2005.06.19 15:52:00 -
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Originally by: slothe i never have and never would. id rather lose lots of money than pay.
daft i know but..
Difference is your a good experienced pvper, many of those other empire guys are not and the isk isnt a big deal to them... ---------------
RIP - Smoske, My Friend
Coasterbrian > babies are good, especially raw Coasterbrian > soft and crunchy at the same time
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Feta Solamnia
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Posted - 2005.06.20 04:14:00 -
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I hear it's getting harder and harder to find a serious excuse to start a war. Maybe the SHOULD be paying you... to keep the war up
Seriously now, this subject has been discussed 100's of times, people just don't pay. Period.
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D4RK MESSI4H
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Posted - 2005.06.20 08:27:00 -
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Originally by: Randuin MaraL .... A: They just form a new corporation without letting you know. A
I hope they don't. As far as im aware this deemed an exploit and rightfully so.
Could be wrong though. -----------------------------------------
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hired goon
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Posted - 2005.06.20 10:34:00 -
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Originally by: slothe i never have and never would. id rather lose lots of money than pay.
daft i know but..
Hah slothe, you WANT a pirate corp to dec millenium.. because in the end you'd probably end up ransoming them! ------------
We come in peace. And tanks. |
StellarSheep
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Posted - 2005.06.20 11:49:00 -
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More funny situations r when u catch tier 2 bs pilot with rare stuff worht about 100m and all i just wanted from him was 40m ... Of course he didnt pay and i was forced to kill him. I got 60m from loot ... And i still ask myself why he dont pay?? ________________________________________________
StellarSheep Fury Corporation member
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jeNK
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Posted - 2005.06.20 13:11:00 -
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Some people find it fun to fight.
What guarantees they won't either:
A) War dec you again for twice as much.
B) Make it publically known that you give in easily.
C) Kill you anyway.
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Zaneg
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Posted - 2005.06.20 13:51:00 -
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Edited by: Zaneg on 20/06/2005 13:52:44 Not paying ransom is lame and immoral. You heartless bastards. These scumbags only want to hurt you. You should reconsider paying them for the service so they can repeat the success over and over again.
I for one think that not being a total scumbag should be a banable offense.
_________________________________ Keep EVE average players age below 15 for a better gaming experience.
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Zaintiraris
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Posted - 2005.06.20 13:55:00 -
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Guys in my corp seem to not give in to anything, including common sense, when encountering pirates so that they can moan at me "Zain, go kill this guy, he popped my pod." Its rather funny, since they are usually drunk ---
Originally by: CCP Hammer This game was so much better back before people knew math.
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Kris Longknife
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Posted - 2005.06.20 14:17:00 -
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Humm lets see....I spend three to four hours a day on this game somtimes longer on weekends. Takes me awhile to generate any type of money, and then some lazy, good-for-nothing, pond scum pirate, wants to come along and take it from me? NOT...shoot baby shoot, loot my standard gear and give me a ride home.
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Dionysus Davinci
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Posted - 2005.06.20 15:07:00 -
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Edited by: Dionysus Davinci on 20/06/2005 15:08:33 Beats me why people don't pay. If i was still carebearing up a storm I would have. We have been trying to sell mining passes super cheap just for giggles. One guy is out of over 150 million isk so far because he won't move on or leave.
On an intersting note, apprently everyone from Europe that dies is either drunk or all burned out on the weed. Must be one big never ending party over there. Where everyone drinks Hennikins all day and rolls joints ever hour.
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Fol Tretufel
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Posted - 2005.06.20 15:25:00 -
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Originally by: Dionysus Davinci
On an intersting note, apprently everyone from Europe that dies is either drunk or all burned out on the weed. Must be one big never ending party over there. Where everyone drinks Hennikins all day and rolls joints ever hour.
1st of all: we do like to party 2nd: No self respecting Dutch would ever drink Heineken - it's rats' p***.
3rd: actually to the point, I'm a carebear with over 16mill SPs, having a time of my life whenever somebody declares war on us. However, not all our members are, so... we try to end it as soon as possible. Usually a loss of 6 arbalest sieges by a pirate is enough for them to withdraw.
PS. this is an alt as I do NOT want yet another war :)
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Jaydom
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Posted - 2005.06.20 15:36:00 -
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Meh, its principle. I've never been at the whim of a pirate(well one that wanted isk and not my corpse).
But if pirate ransomed me..id bide for time....try to figure out some way out. Then way the principle consequence agianst the ammount of isk. Guess it'd varry between situation to situation.
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Hulredi
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Posted - 2005.06.20 18:06:00 -
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There is lots of ways to make isk without leaving the station, but remember you need to have isk to make isk (alteast more) so why would they pay when they could sit in the station all the time making isk while your camping them and not making any , just a thought. Hulredi
Ore Avoidance Thread |
Corvus Dove
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Posted - 2005.06.20 18:27:00 -
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The ironic thing is, since they don't pay, more and more of us just don't bother ransoming anymore. Which leads to forum whining about pirates that don't ransom anymore.
Sometimes I'll ransom a barge for 10 mil on the assumption it's not carrying modal miners, but if there's more than one in a belt I go ahead and kill them all. There's times you ransom, and there's times you just risk destruction of the loot for the greater potential reward.
"You Griefer!!!" = "You Doodyhead!!!" |
Kumq uat
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Posted - 2005.06.20 20:01:00 -
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I am interested in your ideas and would like to subscribe to your newsletter
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Vampire Blade
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Posted - 2005.06.20 21:55:00 -
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Originally by: hired goon
Originally by: slothe i never have and never would. id rather lose lots of money than pay.
daft i know but..
Hah slothe, you WANT a pirate corp to dec millenium.. because in the end you'd probably end up ransoming them!
i owned MLM! hello to all my MLM friends! B) ----- ----- -----
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EvilDoomer
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Posted - 2005.06.21 00:27:00 -
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Edited by: EvilDoomer on 21/06/2005 00:27:31
Originally by: SugarDaddy Can any1 plz explaim me why some ppl just dont pay you??
I have declared war on 2 diferent corps and they rather die and lose all their implants them pay me.....
1 corp died cause of the war and the other one is losing members daily.....
Theyve lost over 300mil on my pods....and all i asked was 100.....
Dont know waht to do .....I just want some isk...
To me its a matter of principles. I would rather spend 11mil for a new clone and loose my Apoc then pay a pirate. I am going to kill the pirate that took my POC.
Thanks EvilDoomer
Chicago Mobsters
** Ghost Fleet Pilot **
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Sweetpain
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Posted - 2005.06.21 02:48:00 -
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Originally by: SugarDaddy Can any1 plz explaim me why some ppl just dont pay you??
I have declared war on 2 diferent corps and they rather die and lose all their implants them pay me.....
1 corp died cause of the war and the other one is losing members daily.....
Theyve lost over 300mil on my pods....and all i asked was 100.....
Dont know waht to do .....I just want some isk...
Why dont they, thats allways the reason of pirate, narrowminded and well lets face it its sharper knifes in the drawer.
if they pay you you gain isk on going to war, if they dont you lose isk on going to war. So they refuse to pay who is the loser then?
you aimed, missed by a mile, and lost isk on an action and say they are stupid. yeah expected from a pirate...reason isnt it Yarrr yarr hick.
just as you know the moment you declare war your no longer a pirate :) your just a soldier in a war. bites dont it, all that fighting and no pirate glory at all
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PsyBoRG
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Posted - 2005.06.21 04:54:00 -
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Originally by: Sweetpain
Originally by: SugarDaddy Can any1 plz explaim me why some ppl just dont pay you??
I have declared war on 2 diferent corps and they rather die and lose all their implants them pay me.....
1 corp died cause of the war and the other one is losing members daily.....
Theyve lost over 300mil on my pods....and all i asked was 100.....
Dont know waht to do .....I just want some isk...
Why dont they, thats allways the reason of pirate, narrowminded and well lets face it its sharper knifes in the drawer.
if they pay you you gain isk on going to war, if they dont you lose isk on going to war. So they refuse to pay who is the loser then?
you aimed, missed by a mile, and lost isk on an action and say they are stupid. yeah expected from a pirate...reason isnt it Yarrr yarr hick.
just as you know the moment you declare war your no longer a pirate :) your just a soldier in a war. bites dont it, all that fighting and no pirate glory at all
one reason i allways win the war is im not in it for the money tbh its just a nice bonus and a job well accomplished im only there for the action its a game its supposed to be fun it was also fun when i had 300k in my wallet and flew rifters and vigils for tackling money does not matter the least tbh if u dont pay the ransom i just have another can to loot and a mail to post for our boards so who's being narrow minded? http://www.snigg.cjb.net/ removed siggy as a part of the all important moderation |
Maxine Stirner
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Posted - 2005.06.21 04:56:00 -
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Because pirates are uncivilized. Nor do they generally invest well given that they apparently do not seem to understand the purpose of money.
If you knew, you wouldn't have to ask.
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PsyBoRG
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Posted - 2005.06.21 05:26:00 -
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Originally by: Maxine Stirner Because pirates are uncivilized. Nor do they generally invest well given that they apparently do not seem to understand the purpose of money.
If you knew, you wouldn't have to ask.
why do you guys like to put us all in one boat i do agree my investments dont allways pan out the way i want but im allways happy aslong as i have a ship and enough to fit it coz i dont play to be a rich man in a virtual game money is so much more fun in RL i have not payed RL money for this game to work my ass off while playing no i have payed to have fun a good investment for me hmmmm lemme think maybe buying some more bs's for worse times and of course the purpose of money is simple purpose is to spend it http://www.snigg.cjb.net/ removed siggy as a part of the all important moderation |
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