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Daniel Plain
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
739
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Posted - 2013.01.09 21:10:00 -
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specifically, is there a frigate hull that can make the 70km without asploding?
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings" -MXZF |

Cage Man
Evil Guinea Pigs
144
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Posted - 2013.01.09 21:15:00 -
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I haven't managed in a t1 frig.. managed to do it in a vengence, was close though.. T1 cruise with a mwd and some overdrives does it quick enough. |

goldiiee
Tax and War Haven
160
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Posted - 2013.01.09 21:31:00 -
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Never tried it but HQF says this will tank 300dps for 30 seconds and go 3km/s, so thats 23 seconds to get across and 7 seconds to activate the gate.
[Vigil, recon fit]
2x Medium Ancillary Shield Booster (Navy Cap Booster 100) Adaptive Invulnerability Field II EM Ward Field II 1MN Microwarpdrive I
2x Reactor Control Unit II
Will have to try it next time I get the mission. :)
I imagine some rigs will make it more capable but for 7 milion isk it would be fun to try. Reason and logic never wins over Stubborn and Convinced-á (But-áI still try..) |

goldiiee
Tax and War Haven
160
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Posted - 2013.01.09 21:39:00 -
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A rigged one at 11 million isk would cross the distance in 18 seconds and tank 400 dps.
[Vigil, recon fit]
2x Medium Ancillary Shield Booster (Navy Cap Booster 100) Adaptive Invulnerability Field II EM Ward Field II 1MN Microwarpdrive I
Damage Control II Overdrive Injector System II
3x Small Ancillary Current Router I
Reason and logic never wins over Stubborn and Convinced-á (But-áI still try..) |

Cage Man
Evil Guinea Pigs
144
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Posted - 2013.01.09 21:45:00 -
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goldiiee wrote:A rigged one at 11 million isk would cross the distance in 18 seconds and tank 400 dps.
[Vigil, recon fit]
2x Medium Ancillary Shield Booster (Navy Cap Booster 100) Adaptive Invulnerability Field II EM Ward Field II 1MN Microwarpdrive I
Damage Control II Overdrive Injector System II
3x Small Ancillary Current Router I
At work, so no fit tool. But it doesn't look like it will manage the 3k hit from the cloud. It may need some buffer. |

goldiiee
Tax and War Haven
160
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Posted - 2013.01.09 22:03:00 -
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Cage Man wrote:goldiiee wrote:A rigged one at 11 million isk would cross the distance in 18 seconds and tank 400 dps.
[Vigil, recon fit]
2x Medium Ancillary Shield Booster (Navy Cap Booster 100) Adaptive Invulnerability Field II EM Ward Field II 1MN Microwarpdrive I
Damage Control II Overdrive Injector System II
3x Small Ancillary Current Router I
At work, so no fit tool. But it doesn't look like it will manage the 3k hit from the cloud. It may need some buffer.
I thought that 3k hit came at the end of the 5 waves, been awhile since i have done it and noticed. But yeah if it's in the begining then the ship would just go poof. Reason and logic never wins over Stubborn and Convinced-á (But-áI still try..) |

Sammybear
Awakened Brotherhood The Brotherhood Alliance
35
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Posted - 2013.01.09 22:15:00 -
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i can make recon 3/3 in a drake and never get the big wave, and it only hits ~350m/s or so. |

Daniel Plain
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
739
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Posted - 2013.01.09 22:16:00 -
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is there no way to get enough buffer on, say, a merlin?
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings" -MXZF |

Dzajic
85
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Posted - 2013.01.09 22:18:00 -
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100MN AB omnitanked dual rep Domi. Some occasional AB overheat helps to increase margin of error. |

goldiiee
Tax and War Haven
160
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Posted - 2013.01.09 22:24:00 -
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Daniel Plain wrote:is there no way to get enough buffer on, say, a merlin?
The problem I am getting is that when you put enough buffer on it it wont tank, and there's no room left for a propulsion mod.
[Merlin, recon test]
2x Medium Shield Extender II Medium Ancillary Shield Booster (Navy Cap Booster 100) 1MN Microwarpdrive I
Damage Control II Reactor Control Unit II Power Diagnostic System II
3x Small Ancillary Current Router I
Overload it and pray: Effective HP: 9,185 (Eve: 7,021) Tank Ability: 245.18 DPS Speed 3736m/s Reason and logic never wins over Stubborn and Convinced-á (But-áI still try..) |

Piugattuk
Lima beans Corp
287
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Posted - 2013.01.09 22:40:00 -
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Should have seen my face when I took my pimped out Intron V in to haul some roids out , I'd go with a destroyer hull. |

Ploing
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.01.09 22:48:00 -
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i have no issues in 3/3 with this one
[Slasher, Recon] Damage Control II Overdrive Injector System II
Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
[empty high slot] [empty high slot] [empty high slot] [empty high slot]
Small Auxiliary Thrusters I Small Core Defense Field Extender I Small Core Defense Field Extender I
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Daniel Plain
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
739
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Posted - 2013.01.09 22:59:00 -
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this looks promising; i'll try it next time
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings" -MXZF |

Marc Callan
NullOcular Order THORN Alliance
117
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Posted - 2013.01.10 00:34:00 -
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My go-to for Recon 3/3 was always a dual-medium-armor-rep Myrmidon with a MWD. It's got the speed and the tank to get through the danger zone quickly without too much damage - it might even be able to handle the entire run with a single MAR. |

goldiiee
Tax and War Haven
160
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Posted - 2013.01.10 00:37:00 -
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Marc Callan wrote:My go-to for Recon 3/3 was always a dual-medium-armor-rep Myrmidon with a MWD. It's got the speed and the tank to get through the danger zone quickly without too much damage - it might even be able to handle the entire run with a single MAR.
You might have missed it, we were thinking of T1 friggates that could make it through.
Reason and logic never wins over Stubborn and Convinced-á (But-áI still try..) |

Archa4 Badasaz
Viziam Amarr Empire
27
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Posted - 2013.01.10 02:09:00 -
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Long time ago I read, the Stabber Fleet Issue was the best option. With a 100MN Microwarpdrive. Something like this: [Stabber Fleet Issue, 1] Nanofiber Internal Structure II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Capacitor Power Relay II Capacitor Power Relay II Capacitor Power Relay II
Prototype 100MN MicroWarpdrive I Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II
[empty high slot] [empty high slot] [empty high slot] [empty high slot] [empty high slot]
Medium Ancillary Current Router I Medium Ancillary Current Router I Medium Ancillary Current Router I |

Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
369
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Posted - 2013.01.10 04:48:00 -
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Looks nice. Probably it can somehow run entire mini-arc. Regular Stabber doesn't seem to cut it, sadly. |

Cage Man
Evil Guinea Pigs
147
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Posted - 2013.01.10 08:01:00 -
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Ploing wrote:i have no issues in 3/3 with this one
[Slasher, Recon] Damage Control II Overdrive Injector System II
Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
[empty high slot] [empty high slot] [empty high slot] [empty high slot]
Small Auxiliary Thrusters I Small Core Defense Field Extender I Small Core Defense Field Extender I
Just looking at eve hq I am not sure this will make it, but you do say you use it. The challenge is a T1 frig doesn't get a high enough HP on either the shields or armor. eg, on HQ for this fit I get 7,9 EHP, but only 2,1k on the shields, rest is in the armor and hull. I tried it on a medium asb and medium shield extender merlin and the first wave went all the way through the shields, which had a slightly higher shield HP than this. It did go 1km\s slower than the slasher, so maybe that is the trick. it could also be I am a bad pilot 
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Kara Books
Deal with IT.
314
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Posted - 2013.01.10 08:18:00 -
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dual prop Brick tank SFI |

Cage Man
Evil Guinea Pigs
147
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Posted - 2013.01.10 08:42:00 -
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OK, eve is down for the dust integration.. so I am bored.. I recon a hookbil can do it...
[Caldari Navy Hookbill, recon]
Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction_2 Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction_2 Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I_2 EM Ward Field II_2 Medium Ancillary Shield Booster_2, Cap Booster 50
Micro Auxiliary Power Core II_2 Capacitor Flux Coil II_2
Small Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I_2 Small Ancillary Current Router I_2 Small Ancillary Current Router I_2
Cap stable, 3 km\s |

Ploing
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.01.10 11:52:00 -
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Cage Man wrote:Ploing wrote:i have no issues in 3/3 with this one
[Slasher, Recon] Damage Control II Overdrive Injector System II
Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
[empty high slot] [empty high slot] [empty high slot] [empty high slot]
Small Auxiliary Thrusters I Small Core Defense Field Extender I Small Core Defense Field Extender I
Just looking at eve hq I am not sure this will make it, but you do say you use it. The challenge is a T1 frig doesn't get a high enough HP on either the shields or armor. eg, on HQ for this fit I get 7,9 EHP, but only 2,1k on the shields, rest is in the armor and hull. I tried it on a medium asb and medium shield extender merlin and the first wave went all the way through the shields, which had a slightly higher shield HP than this. It did go 1km\s slower than the slasher, so maybe that is the trick. it could also be I am a bad pilot 
done recon 3/3 30+ times in it. sometimes i ended up with about 5-10 % shield but mostly around 45%. the speed makes the difference.
i use the zor implant too. |

Kery Nysell
Nysell Incorporated
60
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Posted - 2013.01.10 12:07:00 -
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Uuuuh, not really "on topic", but the only thing I changed on my Navy Scorp from the 2/3 part of that mission was to add a 100mn MWD ... got to the gate before the big wave, shields didn't go below 85% ... My skills : http://eveboard.com/pilot/Kery_Nysell |

goldiiee
Tax and War Haven
160
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Posted - 2013.01.10 12:13:00 -
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Kery Nysell wrote:Uuuuh, not really "on topic", but the only thing I changed on my Navy Scorp from the 2/3 part of that mission was to add a 100mn MWD ... got to the gate before the big wave, shields didn't go below 85% ... BS's are easy to get through there, a T1 frigg would be a fun challenge, hope to get this mission sometime soon to see if all 3 parts can be blitzed in the same frigg. Reason and logic never wins over Stubborn and Convinced-á (But-áI still try..) |

Boudacca Sangrere
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
30
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Posted - 2013.01.10 15:04:00 -
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I have not been able to log into the game for the last two weeks, but did they change this mission recently? Because just before I I was able to run all 3 parts with my trusty Caracal (10mn MWD) and frankly, never have the shields ever dipped below 80%.
B. |

Daniel Plain
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
741
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Posted - 2013.01.10 16:39:00 -
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Boudacca Sangrere wrote:I have not been able to log into the game for the last two weeks, but did they change this mission recently? Because just before I I was able to run all 3 parts with my trusty Caracal (10mn MWD) and frankly, never have the shields ever dipped below 80%.
B.
doing it in a mwd cruiser is not an issue, i have a nano mwd stabber for it too. the thing is, the min/maxer in me wonders if you could do them even faster in a frigate hull (3000m/s+ instead of only 1000m/s in a cruiser).
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings" -MXZF |

Boudacca Sangrere
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
30
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Posted - 2013.01.10 17:09:00 -
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Daniel Plain wrote:Boudacca Sangrere wrote:I have not been able to log into the game for the last two weeks, but did they change this mission recently? Because just before I I was able to run all 3 parts with my trusty Caracal (10mn MWD) and frankly, never have the shields ever dipped below 80%.
B. doing it in a mwd cruiser is not an issue, i have a nano mwd stabber for it too. the thing is, the min/maxer in me wonders if you could do them even faster in a frigate hull (3000m/s+ instead of only 1000m/s in a cruiser).
Sorry, I just saw a lot of people talking about some massive hit and frankly, I have never experienced it, hence my question if anything had changed. Will look into it once I am able to get back into the game (sadly, stuck in the hospital, yet again),
B. |

Chicken Pizza
Penumbra Institute Villore Accords
81
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Posted - 2013.01.11 04:10:00 -
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Jeebus, guys. You're thinking way too hard about this. Just fit a MWD to whatever ship you normally run level 4's in and run straight through. The damage is so small, you won't even have thought about it by the time you're finished. I run level 4's in a Machariel with 2 invuls(I run all of my level 4 missions with 2 invuls) and never drop below 95% with a shield booster before I hit the gate. |

Daniel Plain
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
742
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Posted - 2013.01.11 04:12:00 -
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Chicken Pizza wrote:Jeebus, guys. You're thinking way too hard about this. Just fit a MWD to whatever ship you normally run level 4's in and run straight through. The damage is so small, you won't even have thought about it by the time you're finished. I run level 4's in a Machariel with 2 invuls(I run all of my level 4 missions with 2 invuls) and never drop below 95% with a shield booster before I hit the gate. please read before posting.
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings" -MXZF |

Chicken Pizza
Penumbra Institute Villore Accords
81
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Posted - 2013.01.11 06:07:00 -
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Daniel Plain wrote:Chicken Pizza wrote:Jeebus, guys. You're thinking way too hard about this. Just fit a MWD to whatever ship you normally run level 4's in and run straight through. The damage is so small, you won't even have thought about it by the time you're finished. I run level 4's in a Machariel with 2 invuls(I run all of my level 4 missions with 2 invuls) and never drop below 95% with a shield booster before I hit the gate. please read before posting.
I did read it, and it's a stupid discussion. Why would you even want to do it in a frigate? It's not any more exciting or engaging, and you're just wasting time trying to figure it out.
I'll tell you the same thing I told all of the noobs in World of Tanks as soon as the new physics engine was released and everybody was jumping off of cliffs for no reason: just because you CAN do something, doesn't mean you SHOULD.
Waste of bandwidth. |

Sammybear
Awakened Brotherhood The Brotherhood Alliance
35
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Posted - 2013.01.11 07:37:00 -
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Chicken Pizza wrote:Daniel Plain wrote:Chicken Pizza wrote:Jeebus, guys. You're thinking way too hard about this. Just fit a MWD to whatever ship you normally run level 4's in and run straight through. The damage is so small, you won't even have thought about it by the time you're finished. I run level 4's in a Machariel with 2 invuls(I run all of my level 4 missions with 2 invuls) and never drop below 95% with a shield booster before I hit the gate. please read before posting. I did read it, and it's a stupid discussion. Why would you even want to do it in a frigate? It's not any more exciting or engaging, and you're just wasting time trying to figure it out. I'll tell you the same thing I told all of the noobs in World of Tanks as soon as the new physics engine was released and everybody was jumping off of cliffs for no reason: just because you CAN do something, doesn't mean you SHOULD. Waste of bandwidth.
is it more of a waste than typing out a useless post calling it a waste? |
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