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Tauren Tom
Order of the Silver Dragons Clone Vat
6
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Posted - 2011.10.13 02:04:00 -
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Lyris Nairn wrote:Discussing petitions and other private communications with CCP on the forums is against the rules.
Ah but you see, I am not discussing petitions in the direct sense of their rules ;)
You have to pay very close attention to loopholes. You see, most countries don't bar disclosure of messages between a corporation and their clients. And since I'm paying CCP for atleast 3 services, buying their plex's and such, I am a client and they are not a protected industry. Any statements they make in whole or in part to any member of their client baseis not considered priviledged information as it does not give a noticeable advantage over another member nor does it disclose any personal information about their clients nor staff.
Not to mention keeping their petition statements confidential and refusing to publicly admit / notify their client base of a failure on their part in whole or in part is a breach of their own EULA and ToS agreements in which they are required to notify the player base/clients and any associated marketing groups immeadiatly of service changes, rule changes and status changes to their service and/or provider base.
Short version:
CCP in no way shape or form can hold client / staff priviledge over anyone's head about disseminating a document or communication which affects the state of the game, gameplay or any form of explotation as refusing to do so and then banning someone for doing exactly what they explained in a GM to Client message and kept "underwraps" would be considered entrapment and a severe violation of their service agreements.
(I'm extremely bored at the moment incase you couldn't tell. Not to mention all i would have to do anyway is post their GM statements on a 3rd party site not include a name and just drop a link from a trial account at the local cafe then be done with any possible implications of myself or anyone else) |
Desudes
Pixelmoon The Star League
2
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Posted - 2011.10.13 02:17:00 -
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I almost went suicide ganking last weekend...
I think I can get some people to tag along this weekend... I know my security status is far to high.
What kind of dps range should be expected to get kills in 0.5? My gun skills suck :( |
Hratli Smirks
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
60
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Posted - 2011.10.13 02:53:00 -
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JitaJane wrote:I am curious as to why GS wants to lower prices in Amarr and Matar space. Because if this campaign has even moderate success that will be the result. Don't spose y'all are just going to tell us...
I have an Archon |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2263
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Posted - 2011.10.13 02:58:00 -
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Hratli Smirks wrote:JitaJane wrote:I am curious as to why GS wants to lower prices in Amarr and Matar space. Because if this campaign has even moderate success that will be the result. Don't spose y'all are just going to tell us... I have an Archon The crime in this thread is that the Honourable H. Ratli Smirks, esq. has far fewer spacebook likes than I. Fix this! |
Hratli Smirks
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
62
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Posted - 2011.10.13 03:04:00 -
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Lyris Nairn wrote:Hratli Smirks wrote:JitaJane wrote:I am curious as to why GS wants to lower prices in Amarr and Matar space. Because if this campaign has even moderate success that will be the result. Don't spose y'all are just going to tell us... I have an Archon The crime in this thread is that the Honourable H. Ratli Smirks, esq. has far fewer spacebook likes than I. Fix this!
its cool these forums suck anyway its like what i imagine rho squad must look like |
Chopper Rollins
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
21
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Posted - 2011.10.13 04:53:00 -
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desudes' signature: EVE PvP reminds me of sex: there is a long build-up often made frustrating by idiots; a semi-tense and semi-fun stretch to get into business that you try to keep quick; an all too short climax where you pray nothing goes wrong, and you're probably going to go home with less money then you started with.
Damn that's tragic I will light a candle for you. Also you are doinitwrong. Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good. |
Desudes
Pixelmoon The Star League
3
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Posted - 2011.10.13 05:20:00 -
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Chopper Rollins wrote:desudes' signature: EVE PvP reminds me of sex: there is a long build-up often made frustrating by idiots; a semi-tense and semi-fun stretch to get into business that you try to keep quick; an all too short climax where you pray nothing goes wrong, and you're probably going to go home with less money then you started with.
Damn that's tragic I will light a candle for you. Also you are doinitwrong.
Thank you. I usually put accurate depictions of my tragic life style in my signature so people like you can know my pain. EVE PvP reminds me of sex: there is a long build-up often made frustrating by idiots; a semi-tense and semi-fun stretch to get into business that you try to keep quick; an all too short climax where you pray nothing goes wrong, and you're probably going to go home with less money then you started with. |
Florestan Bronstein
United Engineering Services
99
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Posted - 2011.10.13 07:45:00 -
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Lyris Nairn wrote:My name is sky captain Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com you need an eye patch
no eye patch = cheap fake |
Tallian Saotome
Nuclear Arms Exchange Fatal Ascension
97
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Posted - 2011.10.13 08:06:00 -
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Florestan Bronstein wrote:Lyris Nairn wrote:My name is sky captain Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com you need an eye patch no eye patch = cheap fake I still can't decide... Do monocles count as eyepatches yet?
Also, why do we not have a monocle wearing smiley in these forums <.< o/`-á Lord, I want to be a gynecologist.. KY, rubber gloves, and a flashlight.-á o/` |
Mortis vonShadow
Balanaz Mining and Development Inc.
19
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Posted - 2011.10.13 15:03:00 -
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Tauren Tom wrote:Lyris Nairn wrote:Discussing petitions and other private communications with CCP on the forums is against the rules. Ah but you see, I am not discussing petitions in the direct sense of their rules ;) You have to pay very close attention to loopholes. You see, most countries don't bar disclosure of messages between a corporation and their clients. And since I'm paying CCP for atleast 3 services, buying their plex's and such, I am a client and they are not a protected industry. Any statements they make in whole or in part to any member of their client baseis not considered priviledged information as it does not give a noticeable advantage over another member nor does it disclose any personal information about their clients nor staff. Not to mention keeping their petition statements confidential and refusing to publicly admit / notify their client base of a failure on their part in whole or in part is a breach of their own EULA and ToS agreements in which they are required to notify the player base/clients and any associated marketing groups immeadiatly of service changes, rule changes and status changes to their service and/or provider base. Short version: CCP in no way shape or form can hold client / staff priviledge over anyone's head about disseminating a document or communication which affects the state of the game, gameplay or any form of explotation as refusing to do so and then banning someone for doing exactly what they explained in a GM to Client message and kept "underwraps" would be considered entrapment and a severe violation of their service agreements. (I'm extremely bored at the moment incase you couldn't tell. Not to mention all i would have to do anyway is post their GM statements on a 3rd party site not include a name and just drop a link from a trial account at the local cafe then be done with any possible implications of myself or anyone else)
STOP! MY EYES MY EYES! You sound like a friggin' lawyer. Knock that crap off. I'll take a world full of Goons, before I'll settle on one friggin attorney. Amirite?
Hugs for everyone! Except lawyers. Some days you're the bug, and some days your the windscreen. -á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á And some days, you're just a man with a gun. |
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Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2339
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Posted - 2011.10.13 17:22:00 -
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Florestan Bronstein wrote:Lyris Nairn wrote:My name is sky captain Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com you need an eye patch no eye patch = cheap fake I am not a fake. |
David Cedarbridge
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
45
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Posted - 2011.10.13 19:37:00 -
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Mortis vonShadow wrote:Tauren Tom wrote:Lyris Nairn wrote:Discussing petitions and other private communications with CCP on the forums is against the rules. Ah but you see, I am not discussing petitions in the direct sense of their rules ;) You have to pay very close attention to loopholes. You see, most countries don't bar disclosure of messages between a corporation and their clients. And since I'm paying CCP for atleast 3 services, buying their plex's and such, I am a client and they are not a protected industry. Any statements they make in whole or in part to any member of their client baseis not considered priviledged information as it does not give a noticeable advantage over another member nor does it disclose any personal information about their clients nor staff. Not to mention keeping their petition statements confidential and refusing to publicly admit / notify their client base of a failure on their part in whole or in part is a breach of their own EULA and ToS agreements in which they are required to notify the player base/clients and any associated marketing groups immeadiatly of service changes, rule changes and status changes to their service and/or provider base. Short version: CCP in no way shape or form can hold client / staff priviledge over anyone's head about disseminating a document or communication which affects the state of the game, gameplay or any form of explotation as refusing to do so and then banning someone for doing exactly what they explained in a GM to Client message and kept "underwraps" would be considered entrapment and a severe violation of their service agreements. (I'm extremely bored at the moment incase you couldn't tell. Not to mention all i would have to do anyway is post their GM statements on a 3rd party site not include a name and just drop a link from a trial account at the local cafe then be done with any possible implications of myself or anyone else) STOP! MY EYES MY EYES! You sound like a friggin' lawyer. Knock that crap off. I'll take a world full of Goons, before I'll settle on one friggin attorney. Amirite? Hugs for everyone! Except lawyers. Its a shame that all of that long winded babble is technically incorrect. I'd stare that down in court any day of the week. Personal request, before anyone gets all hot and bothered about their newest "loophole" they found in EULA/law/etc they should probably actually consider learning the law associated. People get degrees to practice this stuff for a reason. |
Mortis vonShadow
Balanaz Mining and Development Inc.
21
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Posted - 2011.10.14 10:44:00 -
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David Cedarbridge are you an attorney? A Goon thats a lawyer in real life. Why am I suprised.
+1 for finding your niche in EVE Online. Some days you're the bug, and some days your the windscreen. -á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á And some days, you're just a man with a gun. |
Tallian Saotome
Nuclear Arms Exchange Fatal Ascension
103
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Posted - 2011.10.14 10:59:00 -
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Mortis vonShadow wrote:David Cedarbridge are you an attorney? A Goon thats a lawyer in real life. Why am I suprised.
+1 for finding your niche in EVE Online. Uhh,... You know that Mittens is an attorney, right?
Funny thing I have noticed. Underneath all the stuff people think about Goons, most of them are well educated, functional adults.
Who are obsessed by a puppy. o/`-á Lord, I want to be a gynecologist.. KY, rubber gloves, and a flashlight.-á o/` |
Elson Tamar
Lion Investments
0
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Posted - 2011.10.14 11:33:00 -
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What i like about this is that it's:
a) Very clever and has little risk to the Goons finances or own ships
b) Gets a bunch of people eating each other over scraps of ISK, which is their own fault
c) Encourages people to 0.0 and low sec as the risk is the same and lets face it soon there will be a bunch of suicide gankers who will only be able to fly low sec
d) Has finally made me want to ice mine, normaly sat in Gillantee space i wouldn't bother, but now if i nip to caldari, ammar or min space i can mine, bring it back and sell it.
I never thought i'd say this and it makes me cry a little inside but.... thankyou goons.
I feel dirty now. |
Mortis vonShadow
Balanaz Mining and Development Inc.
22
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Posted - 2011.10.14 11:40:00 -
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Tallian Saotome wrote:Uhh,... You know that Mittens is an attorney, right?
Great! Just when I was beginning to think that the Goons couldn't sink any lower...
Some days you're the bug, and some days your the windscreen. -á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á And some days, you're just a man with a gun. |
Angry Onions
Martyr's Vengence Test Alliance Please Ignore
53
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Posted - 2011.10.14 14:05:00 -
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I think the Mittens should start a GoonWaffe Legal Serve blah blah blah.... GOON LAWYERS \o/ E .-+ ` ' / -+. F Your Carebear tears fuel us |
Mortis vonShadow
Balanaz Mining and Development Inc.
22
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Posted - 2011.10.14 14:12:00 -
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Angry Onions wrote:I think the Mittens should start a GoonWaffe Legal Serve blah blah blah.... GOON LAWYERS \o/
Thats all well and good, but there are no ambulances to chase here in New Eden :) Some days you're the bug, and some days your the windscreen. -á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á And some days, you're just a man with a gun. |
Angry Onions
Martyr's Vengence Test Alliance Please Ignore
54
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Posted - 2011.10.14 14:34:00 -
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Mortis vonShadow wrote: Thats all well and good, but there are no ambulances to chase here in New Eden :)
Then guess what kind of ships should be introduced into New Eden? E .-+ ` ' / -+. F Your Carebear tears fuel us |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2435
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Posted - 2011.10.14 15:41:00 -
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Elson Tamar wrote: c) Encourages people to 0.0 and low sec as the risk is the same and lets face it soon there will be a bunch of suicide gankers who will only be able to fly low sec.
What are you talking about? -10.0 can fly around high security space with no problem. |
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JackStraw56
Bayesian Motion Knights of Tomorrow
12
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Posted - 2011.10.14 17:15:00 -
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Lyris Nairn wrote:[quote=Elson Tamar] What are you talking about? -10.0 can fly around high security space with no problem. Well you can do it, but there are some.....annoyances. |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2461
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Posted - 2011.10.14 17:17:00 -
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JackStraw56 wrote:Lyris Nairn wrote:[quote=Elson Tamar] What are you talking about? -10.0 can fly around high security space with no problem. Well you can do it, but there are some.....annoyances. Buy an orca alt, or use an alt to give you a warpin. A battlecruiser with Nanofiber Internal Structures in the lows can align and warp from station before the faction navy warp scrambles it, and CONCORD does not spawn until you have actually committed an illegal action. |
Mortis vonShadow
Balanaz Mining and Development Inc.
24
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Posted - 2011.10.15 01:07:00 -
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Angry Onions wrote:Mortis vonShadow wrote: Thats all well and good, but there are no ambulances to chase here in New Eden :)
Then guess what kind of ships should be introduced into New Eden?
hehehe, a Tech II version of the Noctis called the Goonbulance. Flys around and picks up podded pilots, but you can only get them out if you pay a 50mil retainer fee. Some days you're the bug, and some days your the windscreen. -á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á And some days, you're just a man with a gun. |
Korsiri
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2011.10.15 01:34:00 -
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Mortis vonShadow wrote:Angry Onions wrote:Mortis vonShadow wrote: Thats all well and good, but there are no ambulances to chase here in New Eden :)
Then guess what kind of ships should be introduced into New Eden? hehehe, a Tech II version of the Noctis called the Goonbulance. Flys around and picks up podded pilots, but you can only get them out if you pay a 50mil retainer fee.
Paddywagon ;)
But da Goons make this sound like fun!
pondering new line of 'work'
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Baranga DevilBitch
Erasers Co.
0
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Posted - 2011.10.15 07:00:00 -
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Lyris Nairn wrote:Hello Space Friends;
So how does this work? It's very simple. Any ship on the below list is eligible for a bounty payout, so long as it is destroyed in Caldari or Gallente high security space. Let me say that again: in order for a kill to be eligible for bounty payouts, the kill must occur in either Caldari high security space or Gallente high security space. Another provision is that the killmail must be API-verified in order for the pilot to receive payment.
ELIGIBLE SHIPS & BOUNTY PAYOUTS
500 million ISK : Anshar, Ark, Nomad, Rhea 250 million ISK : Orca; Charon, Fenrir, Obelisk, Providence 25 million ISK : Hulk 10 million ISK : Mackinaw; Capsule* 5 million ISK : Covetor, Procurer, Retriever, Skiff; Bustard, Crane, Impel, Mastodon, Occator, Prorator, Prowler, Viator
We are Erasers.Co,. Minmatar separatist organization, our mission is to destroy any civilian ship that helps the economy Caldari, so we decided to join the saga of the destruction of ships in the Caldari space.
And it was notified that anyone with a legitimate kill in Caldari space can claim the reward, and here we are.
http://killboard.erasersco.com/
We will be please it this rewards, Our wars machines need ammos
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Nephilius
Pillage and Plunder Salvage Co.
8
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Posted - 2011.10.15 15:57:00 -
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David Cedarbridge wrote:Its a shame that all of that long winded babble is technically incorrect. I'd stare that down in court any day of the week. Personal request, before anyone gets all hot and bothered about their newest "loophole" they found in EULA/law/etc they should probably actually consider learning the law associated. People get degrees to practice this stuff for a reason.
Since when have technicalities ever stopped the law from being applied inappropriately? There's precedent for everything, something that is regularly used in legal proceedings. The door behind the toon you spin contains the secrets behind life, the universe and everything. |
David Cedarbridge
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
82
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Posted - 2011.10.15 18:54:00 -
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Nephilius wrote:David Cedarbridge wrote:Its a shame that all of that long winded babble is technically incorrect. I'd stare that down in court any day of the week. Personal request, before anyone gets all hot and bothered about their newest "loophole" they found in EULA/law/etc they should probably actually consider learning the law associated. People get degrees to practice this stuff for a reason. Since when have technicalities ever stopped the law from being applied inappropriately? There's precedent for everything, something that is regularly used in legal proceedings.
That's vague enough to almost make sense. In other news, it might rain tomorrow therefore it is always raining. |
Sigarni Green
Hedion University Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2011.10.16 07:14:00 -
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The one thing people seem to be mising is that jita is in Caldari space. Being that a very large percentage of all trade in eve goes via Jita and a large amount is via haulers. Most of the north aka Goons & co use Jita. So be sure to ganks some of their haulers and get them to pay you for it :-) But Jita will be gank central, untill a new trade hub outside of gallente or caldari space is found.
Let the good times roll. |
Otard
STEEL CITY.
33
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Posted - 2011.10.17 03:53:00 -
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I take back about this being a scam.
DRUMMMMMM ROLE!
Lyris just sent me my due isk of 575 MILLION!
*Disclaimer* I was in deklien working back my sec status and i saw her in local. So i said 'Hey, wheres my isk?' Apparently all those supposed to be helping has dropped the ball and lyris isnt a micromanager.
It might take a week, or 2- but i did get my iskies. So GL to the rest of you! |
JFDeckard
Praetorian Cohort
0
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Posted - 2011.10.17 03:54:00 -
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David Cedarbridge wrote:[quote=Nephilius][quote=David Cedarbridge]People get degrees to practice this stuff for a reason.
Ya, idiots can't be on the loose talking about law without some legitimacy. |
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