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Lilith Runner
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Posted - 2005.06.27 16:35:00 -
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Missions are a good way to get money and modules. And almost all high skills chars are doing them right now. My last two kills conisted of newbie chars, 1 or 2 months of game time.
With better ore in low security space, we should have more miners and competition. Even armed escorts... Well, since I am on it for the fun, it would be a blast.
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Cummilla
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Posted - 2005.06.27 17:43:00 -
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 Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri
Edited by: Famine Aligher''ri on 25/06/2005 23:47:03
Have no idea what to say to idiots. Maybe i'll just let this one go...
You did the right thing to let the babble pass. For the life of me I cannot understand how sitting in high sec basically watching the grass grow (PvE) is fun. WTF, are we talking a game like "Sim-Eve" then. Where you tell yer little Eve-Sims to take a dump before eating etc. And don't forget yer WCS's on the way out the door to your "Mission Runner" job 
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ASIV TRE
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Posted - 2005.06.27 18:02:00 -
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To cummilla's comment, you may think pve is boring but everyone has there way they play eve, miner, pirate, mission runner, ore thief  etc etc, everyones different and should be allowed to play the way they want.
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Famine Aligher'ri
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Posted - 2005.06.27 18:04:00 -
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Edited by: Famine Aligher''ri on 27/06/2005 18:05:18
Originally by: Corvus Dove
There's a solution for those high-sec huggers anyway.
Suicide Kestrels / Caracals .
I respect all styles of trades and players joy in what they like in this game. It is a game and we shouldn't be trying to (By Brute Force) kill peoples fun like that. It's one thing to be a pirate and pop someone who comes into your system or region. It's another thing to go in there world and start abusing the security/EVE system and suiciding barges with alts and ships. That's one of those things where people would quit the game and in the long run kill a good portion of the pbase. Because there is no way to prevent or get around that. Where as low security space is preventable. So people who suggest or actually kill people in 0.5-1.0 without war declaration seriously are looked down on by me. This is just me and my opinion, as I respect people who just want to be non-pvp and hug empire. Respect both sides of the world of eve.
Famine Aligher'ri, of The Aligher'ri |
Corvus Dove
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Posted - 2005.06.27 18:24:00 -
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Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri
Edited by: Famine Aligher''ri on 27/06/2005 18:05:18
Originally by: Corvus Dove
There's a solution for those high-sec huggers anyway.
Suicide Kestrels / Caracals .
I respect all styles of trades and players joy in what they like in this game. It is a game and we shouldn't be trying to (By Brute Force) kill peoples fun like that. It's one thing to be a pirate and pop someone who comes into your system or region. It's another thing to go in there world and start abusing the security/EVE system and suiciding barges with alts and ships. That's one of those things where people would quit the game and in the long run kill a good portion of the pbase. Because there is no way to prevent or get around that. Where as low security space is preventable. So people who suggest or actually kill people in 0.5-1.0 without war declaration seriously are looked down on by me. This is just me and my opinion, as I respect people who just want to be non-pvp and hug empire. Respect both sides of the world of eve.
It pays the bills. That's what EVE, essentially, is about.
Suicides, war decs, whatever it takes.
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Crellion
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Posted - 2005.06.27 18:32:00 -
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Originally by: ASIV TRE
Mining in Amamake what ever next, maybe they thought it would be safe as all the pirates there only usually camp the gate to the 0.5  (Joke before i get flamed)
But your best bet is to keep looking maybe try a different region i'm sure yor find some one
We did that when based in Rens area and the pirates did stay by the gate and were very polite in not coming anywhere near. Why not? If you get lone traffic day in day out in your snipa-something whats the point of attacking a heavily guarded mining op when even the miners themselves are BSs??? Sure u might win if you organise a bit but whats the point really?
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Kuolematon
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Posted - 2005.06.28 06:42:00 -
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Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri
I respect all styles of trades and players joy in what they like in this game. It is a game and we shouldn't be trying to (By Brute Force) kill peoples fun like that. It's one thing to be a pirate and pop someone who comes into your system or region. It's another thing to go in there world and start abusing the security/EVE system and suiciding barges with alts and ships. That's one of those things where people would quit the game and in the long run kill a good portion of the pbase. Because there is no way to prevent or get around that. Where as low security space is preventable. So people who suggest or actually kill people in 0.5-1.0 without war declaration seriously are looked down on by me. This is just me and my opinion, as I respect people who just want to be non-pvp and hug empire. Respect both sides of the world of eve.
... and this comment kinda sums up whole idea and problem within EVE. I have many times been accused to be uber carebear because many "pirate" don't understand my point of view about their profession. What I loathe and dislike very much is those gankers and gate snipers. I do however like REAL pirates and those who works like real criminals with much effort and small revanue.
Why is it so hard for "pirates" like Cummilla (ack what a offensive name btw) understand that some people actually LIKE PvE in all its glory. It's a freaking game and still, 80% of interaction in MMORPGs are with NPCs (NON Player Characters).
But even if we  's try to say this point of view to 's, there is still so many ""'s out there who thinks that killing others is fun for BOTH parties OR its only THEIR game that needs to be fun and they give jacksh1t about others fun.
I respect 's
I loathe ""'s (Like many persons on this thread)
I enjoy doing all aspects of EVE (Expect ganking and gate sniping)
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Gesalt
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Posted - 2005.06.28 12:45:00 -
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Don't worry. I'm turning to ore thievery now to build some easy cash.
cheers
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Deja Thoris
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Posted - 2005.06.28 13:41:00 -
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Dont think theres much money in ore thieving.
The only 2 ore thieves that I dont think are too sad are Ashley and that tin rattling lady.
They at least have a bit of flair.
Most of the others are just attention *****s and assorted misfits climbing on the bandwagon (Tenaj and bigdoggy etc)
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Sastria Kasadoraska
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Posted - 2005.06.28 14:00:00 -
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Originally by: Kuolematon
Why is it so hard for "pirates" like Cummilla (ack what a offensive name btw)
I also thought I it might be a name that implies a certain taste for a sexual byproduct but it seems to be a legitimate and old name...
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Pitt
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Posted - 2005.06.28 17:02:00 -
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Edited by: Pitt on 28/06/2005 17:03:49
Kuolematon, as it has been stated many many times before, gate ganking/sniping is a direct result of the nerfs to "real piracy" ie. ransoming mining ops or at gates/stations. Combine that with the lack of reasons for people even doing mining ops in low security. Hence the topic.
Reguardless of what you think about my corp, I and a few of us in it really do hate gate camping as much as you do if not more so. Pirating to me should take place in low security empire. Once you venture out to 0.0 to "pirate" all you are doing is alliace warfare.
Untill the possability of pirating the way I would like to (the way I used to and the way you want us to) returns piracy is dead to me. I've turned in my union card and parrot. I'm keeping my peg-leg for obvious reasons. These are the reasons I find it difficult to log on these day's. Pirating was what I wanted to do in EVE and the reason I played.
I respect the way that you wish to play the game and have nothing but high hopes that you have fun in such a wonderful game as EVE. That goes for every person who plays and enjoy's EVE. My largest fear is that the way I want to play and enjoy the game no longer exsists or ever will again. So any suggestions for an out of work pirate, because I almost have a positive security stat for the first time in over a year and half.
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Famine Aligher'ri
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Posted - 2005.06.28 18:10:00 -
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Q: Is there trade routes still?
A: Yes, mostly in 0.4-0.1 systems.
Q: Is Piratry all about ransom?
A: No....
Q: Is sniping and gate ganking a last result?
A: Ummm no... Trade routes remember?
Q: So pirates just camp trade routes?
A: No, but thats one aspect that hasn't died... Yet...
Famine Aligher'ri, of The Aligher'ri |
Rick Dentill
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Posted - 2005.06.28 22:37:00 -
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Send me 50mill isk and i will tell you
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Tomahawk Bliss
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Posted - 2005.06.28 23:19:00 -
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Originally by: Gavin Darklighter
As it is, pirates are swiftly outnumbering the non-pirate types, and as far as I can see you'll turn on each other next, just to find your next thrill...to that, I'll buy tickets to see ( MAFIA takes on Killer Clowns..rofl, or Total Annihilation goes to war against Wraiths Reborn, what a fight! ).
uh no...most pirates don't want "fair" fights or even challanges, they want easy ganks or "prey" as they lamely call them (as if to imply they are mighty hunters?). Griefers exsist in all MMORGPs, be they lvl 60 night elf thieves who stay cloaked next to lvl 20 mission givers in WoW to jump out and pop the lvl 20 Horde players or be they battleship pilots who look for thorax pilots in gallente space who are mining, war dec their 10 man corp of noobs and then blow them up...it is all the same.
Griefers are drawn to EVE beucase of the PvP system, the pro-griefing Devs, and the other actually good qualities of the game. they will never turn on each other, they will quit and find a good player spawn point in another game and wait there with a chain gun for people to pop with out weapons.
For some reason EVE likes these people. I like THe true PvPers in thsi game, the allaince forces and people who claims things and fight for reasons in fleets and agaisnt other equally powerful forces, not lame BS pilots attacking haulers for gankage.
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Kuolematon
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Posted - 2005.06.29 07:25:00 -
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Originally by: Pitt
Kuolematon, as it has been stated many many times before, gate ganking/sniping is a direct result of the nerfs to "real piracy" ie. ransoming mining ops or at gates/stations. Combine that with the lack of reasons for people even doing mining ops in low security. Hence the topic.
Reguardless of what you think about my corp, I and a few of us in it really do hate gate camping as much as you do if not more so. Pirating to me should take place in low security empire. Once you venture out to 0.0 to "pirate" all you are doing is alliace warfare.
I'm pleased to hear that there is still wisdom on the "other side of the table". I know about your corp, yes, and I find it suprising how you view gate ganking. I have recently been thinking about whole pirate business and I do really want it to be what you said it WAS. But what happened to it? What "nerf" actually caused it to be what it is nowadays? Is it that long term players, who adapted real pirating ideology, left the game and new players who are actually those MMORPG griefers took place and started this whole "easy soft target prey"-ideology.
Perhaps all those "pirates" out there who hates me because of my comments about 'em really are griefers who dosen't even want to understand people who enjoy PvE rather than PvP. I know certain player who dosent leave station but makes tons of ISK via market play and trading - and he enjoys it.
This all boils down to intoleranse that is one of the worst qualities of human race. We refuse to see others point of view and enforce our own ways to others - just how pirates tells us that getting ganked by THEM is actually FUN .. to them!
Btw, I'm intrested to know that is there anyone out there who hates me because of my posts and wants me podded so badly that it hurts?
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Soul Dancer
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Posted - 2005.06.29 08:23:00 -
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Edited by: Soul Dancer on 29/06/2005 08:24:16
do like supremacy gank haulers with 100k zyd, in amarr with suicide caracels and have a friendly indy standing by to get the loot but btw pick ur targets dont go after noobs chars :P
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Famine Aligher'ri
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Posted - 2005.06.29 08:34:00 -
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Hrrm, since when do you know if someone is PvE or not. I didn't think there was a flag to let us know that you're PvE. Wait, we automaticly know that you're PvE and not just someone wandering in a low security system (That YOU SHOULDN'T BE IN) to bounty hunt, steal ore, move corp to declare war, or corp steal from your corp. Yes we know it all, we just kill you for the hell of it. We don't just do it for the isk, we do it do be MEAN! I was picked on in school and my dad beat me for listening to Papa Rouch. Emo is my life and I always cry myself to sleep. Must seek VENGENCE SOMEWHERE! ERRR!
Sure like to know when gate camping to intercept "trade routes" became "Nerfed Piracy". Maybe it's just the new people who all assume ransom was the only piracy out there. Hrrmmm. Maybe someone who hasn't been playing the game for more than 3 months could inlighten all of us on why it is that so many players are having such a hard time...
-Famine Aligher'ri, of The Aligher'ri
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Pyr8
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Posted - 2005.06.29 12:01:00 -
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There are no set guidlines how this game should be played, so long as you don't break any of the rules. Piracy, mission running, mining, ore theft, trading and others are all part of the game which makes this game great.
Its an individuals choice totally if they wish to make lots of cash in empire with little to no risk, its not there fault the facility with LVL4 agents is there.
CCP have obviously seen the flaws developing in high sec empire, with little to no risk yet great profitability, they appear to be addressing these issues gradually with the new patch. I'm personally looking forward to the changes
No element of risk in this type of game will certainly do a lot of damage in the long run, and will certainly effect the player base
So as mentioned in earlier posts, Battlecruisers, better minerals and moving LVL4 agents to low sec would certainly inprove the game for everybody
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Ranger 1
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Posted - 2005.06.29 18:41:00 -
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Originally by: Typherin laidai
Aridia makes a nice hunting ground. a lot of low sec systems.. quite a lot of nice agents so the bears are plentifull. and theres a fair few complexes about that normally have some nicely fitted NPC'ers in them.
Gonditsa pretty much owned by Maffia at the moment though... haven't seen loot around in ages which aint a bad thing 
So my vote is if you want targets set up home around there. Oh and you get nice quick and easy ways into Syndicate & Fountain
Heh, Ty, I'm going to give you such a smack when I see you next.
Long time no see.
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