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Jim Outright
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Posted - 2005.06.23 17:48:00 -
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... I read the Eve newsletter...
Then I pretty much had an orgasm...
1,000,000m3 cargo space....
Even more room for the choccy! :) -- Im logistics crazy.. |

Dan Grobag
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Posted - 2005.06.23 17:51:00 -
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yes that's a good new, 100k m3 would not have made them very useful
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Winterblink
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Posted - 2005.06.23 17:54:00 -
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Sounds like they should attach a warning/disclaimer to these things.
"CCP is not responsible for loss of dignity due to side effects from reading this newsletter. This includes, but is not limited to: (1)outward verbalization of joy, (2)extreme physical comfort resulting in the expelling of bodily fluids, (3)damage to electrical equipment from the result of (2)." ___winterblink/warp_drive_active/eve_nature_vraie// |

Dionysus Davinci
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Posted - 2005.06.23 17:59:00 -
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I can't wait for the first comedy kill mail of seeing what blows up in these things.
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Eleska
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Posted - 2005.06.23 18:11:00 -
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Edited by: Eleska on 23/06/2005 18:12:46 I seem to have no newsletter - I feel so left out 
Did I here somewhere that they are changing the size of ships when repackaged also?
Haulers may drop ships now? :D Tho I guess you wouldnt be able to assemble them in space tho :/
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The Enslaver
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Posted - 2005.06.23 18:28:00 -
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Originally by: Eleska Edited by: Eleska on 23/06/2005 18:12:46 Did I here somewhere that they are changing the size of ships when repackaged also?
Shuttle: 500m3 Frigate: 2,500m3 Mining Barge: 3,750m3 Destroyer: 5,000m3 Cruiser: 10,000m3 Battlecruiser: 15,000m3 Industrial: 20,000m3 Battleship: 50,000m3
It does however raise an important question:
You kill a freighter carrying a few BS's, and the BS's drop in a can (or cans). Now, how do you pick them up? Freighters can't use cans in space, and no indies can get 50,000m3 of cargo. --------
FireFoxx80: If you think you can do a better job, go find yourself a datacentre to host a box, get a copy of Visual Studio, and STFU. |

Jessa
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Posted - 2005.06.23 18:30:00 -
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Edited by: Jessa on 23/06/2005 18:30:34 I tried this on the test server, the unassembled ship gets magically assembled and dumped out into space as a derelict on the industrials destruction, assuming it doesnt blow up. So anyone in a pod could simply come along and jump into it 
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sableye
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Posted - 2005.06.23 18:30:00 -
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Originally by: The Enslaver
Originally by: Eleska Edited by: Eleska on 23/06/2005 18:12:46 Did I here somewhere that they are changing the size of ships when repackaged also?
Shuttle: 500m3 Frigate: 2,500m3 Mining Barge: 3,750m3 Destroyer: 5,000m3 Cruiser: 10,000m3 Battlecruiser: 15,000m3 Industrial: 20,000m3 Battleship: 50,000m3
It does however raise an important question:
You kill a freighter carrying a few BS's, and the BS's drop in a can (or cans). Now, how do you pick them up? Freighters can't use cans in space, and no indies can get 50,000m3 of cargo.
perhaps they will launched assembled, a bit like when you put unassmbled drones in your drone bay they launch ok, this could be fairly useful ins oem situations I guess
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RijS3
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Posted - 2005.06.23 18:32:00 -
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Edited by: RijS3 on 23/06/2005 18:32:47 deleted
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RijS3
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Posted - 2005.06.23 18:32:00 -
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Originally by: The Enslaver
Originally by: Eleska Edited by: Eleska on 23/06/2005 18:12:46 Did I here somewhere that they are changing the size of ships when repackaged also?
Shuttle: 500m3 Frigate: 2,500m3 Mining Barge: 3,750m3 Destroyer: 5,000m3 Cruiser: 10,000m3 Battlecruiser: 15,000m3 Industrial: 20,000m3 Battleship: 50,000m3
It does however raise an important question:
You kill a freighter carrying a few BS's, and the BS's drop in a can (or cans). Now, how do you pick them up? Freighters can't use cans in space, and no indies can get 50,000m3 of cargo.
dont forget jet cans aren't big enough
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Meehan
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Posted - 2005.06.23 18:33:00 -
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Yeah, I've killed several indies carrying shuttles, and they drop as derelict ships. One time the indypilot even boarden his dropped shuttle and escaped 
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The Enslaver
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Posted - 2005.06.23 18:34:00 -
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Hrmm.
Guess they'll just assemble then :p
But anyway, like... Cans can be overloaded (like when you kill a hauler spawn, you can end up with say 30,000m3 out of 27,500m3 used). --------
FireFoxx80: If you think you can do a better job, go find yourself a datacentre to host a box, get a copy of Visual Studio, and STFU. |

Viceroy
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Posted - 2005.06.23 18:52:00 -
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1mil m3? What the hell?
100k-300k would be better tbh. And as for assembling ships in space, uh... kinda like a kinder surprise, no? If you lose your frieghter, you can always jump into the ships that it drops. Or, you can put a frieghter in a freighter thats in a frieghter thats in a frieghte... err.. nevermind. __________________________
Finite Horizon Your end is our beginning.
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Countess Amarisa
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Posted - 2005.06.23 18:58:00 -
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i will *****all market with those baby....
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Winterblink
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Posted - 2005.06.23 19:01:00 -
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Originally by: Viceroy 1mil m3? What the hell?
100k-300k would be better tbh. And as for assembling ships in space, uh... kinda like a kinder surprise, no? If you lose your frieghter, you can always jump into the ships that it drops. Or, you can put a frieghter in a freighter thats in a frieghter thats in a frieghte... err.. nevermind.
It's not like you can do anything with them other than move things between stations.
If and when the formal contract system comes out, I think these will fall right in place in the game as part of a charge-for-moving-stuff service.
___winterblink/warp_drive_active/eve_nature_vraie// |

Arud
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Posted - 2005.06.23 19:13:00 -
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Can the freighters use pos's to dump stuff to or do they need propper stations?
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Rambler
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Posted - 2005.06.23 19:17:00 -
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Boy oh boy, I can imagine the escort required to move one of these puppies into 0.0. If ganking is bad now with instas still in, I can't imagine these ships ever leaving 0.5+ space. Ever.
I hope the devs don't expect these to help a major move into low sec... Being an honest hauler, though, my only problem is with the Gallente design. As much as I've always wanted to fly a floating car park, can't we trade designs with the Amarrians on this one? 
Le meglio Þ l'inimico del bene |

Winterblink
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Posted - 2005.06.23 19:29:00 -
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Originally by: Rambler Boy oh boy, I can imagine the escort required to move one of these puppies into 0.0. If ganking is bad now with instas still in, I can't imagine these ships ever leaving 0.5+ space. Ever.
I hope the devs don't expect these to help a major move into low sec... Being an honest hauler, though, my only problem is with the Gallente design. As much as I've always wanted to fly a floating car park, can't we trade designs with the Amarrians on this one? 
Why stop there. Lets bring your worst nightmare to fruition. Imagine this thing filled to the brim with megacyte and zydrine. :)
___winterblink/warp_drive_active/eve_nature_vraie// |

Hung Odonkey
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Posted - 2005.06.23 19:33:00 -
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Actually Rambler there are many of us out in 0.0 space who are looking forward to these monster haulers. However your right about the escort. Whenever we move one of these we plan to have a fleet go along as escort!! Would bloody hate to lose all that cargo. Its cool I hadn't thought about it but yeah ships would appear when they get dropped out of a cargohold. Now the real question is can you pack a fully configured battleship in your hold so that when you get blown up you can hop in and attack them right away
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Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2005.06.23 19:35:00 -
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Originally by: Meehan Yeah, I've killed several indies carrying shuttles, and they drop as derelict ships. One time the indypilot even boarden his dropped shuttle and escaped 
Oh so THAT's what an indy pilot whose ship I killed a while back did. Did wonder.
And Dionysus? I bet on tritanium :)
Say NO to target painters |

Harisdrop
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Posted - 2005.06.23 19:46:00 -
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Umm you need to package those ships. Assembled ships are not the same size...
Pieces or parts thats why you need mechanics skills to assmble the ship! --------------------------
I am on alot of kill boards but the wrong column. I give the killmails to our enemys |

Lig Lira
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Posted - 2005.06.23 19:57:00 -
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Originally by: Viceroy you can put a frieghter in a freighter thats in a frieghter thats in a frieghte... err.. nevermind.
I don't think you can put anything in a repackaged ship's cargo.
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The Enslaver
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Posted - 2005.06.23 20:32:00 -
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Originally by: Lig Lira
Originally by: Viceroy you can put a frieghter in a freighter thats in a frieghter thats in a frieghte... err.. nevermind.
I don't think you can put anything in a repackaged ship's cargo.
Nope. :) --------
FireFoxx80: If you think you can do a better job, go find yourself a datacentre to host a box, get a copy of Visual Studio, and STFU. |

Countess Amarisa
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Posted - 2005.06.23 20:34:00 -
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Edited by: Countess Amarisa on 23/06/2005 20:34:18 Any one know if they have high, med, low slot? and what powergrid or cpu on them? And i imagine it armor is thic so freighter is THE solution again suicide kestrel/caracal :-)
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Siri Danae
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Posted - 2005.06.23 20:39:00 -
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So at 1mil m3, a freighter could carry 20 battleships?
I'm seeing a trojan horse...
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Laendra
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Posted - 2005.06.23 21:00:00 -
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bah, they need to change the size of repackaged containers too...they're all freaking empty space, after all ------------------- |

rcxdude
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Posted - 2005.06.23 21:07:00 -
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i think that freighters will have the defenses of a few BS, so they're not paper ships, but they'll have no slots and be VEEERY slow....
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Lord Titanus
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Posted - 2005.06.23 21:16:00 -
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Edited by: Lord Titanus on 23/06/2005 21:16:27 So long as they cant be used for trading, i have no problem with freighters being that big.
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KrogothZero
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Posted - 2005.06.23 21:35:00 -
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It was awhile ago and was probally just place holders but I remember the gallantine one having 3 hi slots and that was it.
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Ibobah'k Chisaraj
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Posted - 2005.06.23 21:51:00 -
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Originally by: The Enslaver
Originally by: Eleska Edited by: Eleska on 23/06/2005 18:12:46 Did I here somewhere that they are changing the size of ships when repackaged also?
Shuttle: 500m3 Frigate: 2,500m3 Mining Barge: 3,750m3 Destroyer: 5,000m3 Cruiser: 10,000m3 Battlecruiser: 15,000m3 Industrial: 20,000m3 Battleship: 50,000m3
It does however raise an important question:
You kill a freighter carrying a few BS's, and the BS's drop in a can (or cans). Now, how do you pick them up? Freighters can't use cans in space, and no indies can get 50,000m3 of cargo.
Have you eber jettisoned a shuttle from an indy?
Well, I have and it says kapaow and theres the ship, floating in space without a pilot....
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