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Wrangler
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Posted - 2005.06.24 11:28:00 -
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I know that many of you might not always believe us when we say that the GMs actively look for ebayers and other scum of the MMOG world, but here it is! GM Arkanon posted a news item where he tells us they just banned 80 accounts! 
Please remember that discussing activities that are against the EULA such as ebayers and selling in game items and accounts are not allowed, this post is merely a way for us to let you know that Things Are Being DoneÖ! 
You can of course report this kind of behavior to the GMs by petitioning in game or Ask A Question on this website. Emailing the moderators will get it forwarded to the GMs, but we prefer if you petition it to them directly. 
[Read the Rules!] - [Email the Moderators] |

Vistilantus
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Posted - 2005.06.24 11:29:00 -
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Edited by: Vistilantus on 24/06/2005 11:29:43 yay, go us!
I have no sympathy.
~Vistilantus
~I don't Have an attitude problem, YOU have a perception problem. |

mirel yirrin
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Posted - 2005.06.24 11:30:00 -
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Good job guys.

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Rhaegar
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Posted - 2005.06.24 11:31:00 -
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Hell hath no fury like GM Arkanon 
Rhaegar Captain, ISD STAR
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Sarkos
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Posted - 2005.06.24 11:33:00 -
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Awesome job people!
Either free the slaves or we will come and get them.
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Vinyl Pants
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Posted - 2005.06.24 11:34:00 -
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Good work!
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Avon
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Posted - 2005.06.24 11:40:00 -
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Phew, glad I've never had enough isk to sell.

Way to go Arkanon!  ______________________________________________ Pay or pray..er..prey..yeah, pray you aren't prey. Er, just pay. |

Viceroy
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Posted - 2005.06.24 11:43:00 -
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Hmmm 80 accounts? So *snip* finally got banned?
No naming people and no speculation on who got banned, thats between us (CCP/GMs) and the players - Wrangler __________________________
Finite Horizon Your end is our beginning.
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Avon
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Posted - 2005.06.24 11:47:00 -
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Originally by: Viceroy Hmmm 80 accounts? So *snip* finally got banned?
No naming people and no speculation on who got banned, thats between us (CCP/GMs) and the players - Wrangler
 ______________________________________________ Pay or pray..er..prey..yeah, pray you aren't prey. Er, just pay. |

Lanu
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Posted - 2005.06.24 11:47:00 -
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Originally by: Viceroy Hmmm 80 accounts? So *snip* finally got banned?
No naming people and no speculation on who got banned, thats between us (CCP/GMs) and the players - Wrangler
 
boo
"You are most like the Cat, lazy and quiet. You aren't very exciting yet everyone notices your presence."
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Omber Zombie
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Posted - 2005.06.24 12:03:00 -
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pwned  -----------
I have a blog
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Feronia
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Posted - 2005.06.24 12:08:00 -
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Let it be known that GM Arkanon is very persistent in his quest against macro miners and Ebayers.
Nice work !! 
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Tommy X
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Posted - 2005.06.24 12:11:00 -
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You guys should look in your own back yard before casting the stones. The difference with this scheme is you are making the cashà
clicky
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Akilah Ashaki
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Posted - 2005.06.24 12:14:00 -
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Good job ! show no mercy 
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Akilah Ashaki
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Posted - 2005.06.24 12:17:00 -
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Originally by: Tommy X You guys should look in your own back yard before casting the stones. The difference with this scheme is you are making the cashà
clicky
This char are selled for ingame isk between player. CCP charge only a transfer fee to prevent abuse and even if it's profitable for them, Have you a problem with CCP gaining money for their work ?
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Tommy X
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Posted - 2005.06.24 12:24:00 -
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Edited by: Tommy X on 24/06/2005 12:32:52
Originally by: Akilah Ashaki
This char are selled for ingame isk between player. CCP charge only a transfer fee to prevent abuse and even if it's profitable for them, Have you a problem with CCP gaining money for their work ?
But if I have 3 accounts and build characters to sell you are making isk from paying money for the accounts and transfer fee.
CCP are making the money and the sellers are getting isk from paying money. Hey I'm, cool with that - just not that far from selling isk on eBay is it? Its just CCP are the pimps and the character runners are the users 
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gameforce
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Posted - 2005.06.24 12:33:00 -
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All do my account was banned to, but great way ban the isk sellers
ccp doing a great job again
ssssth, can i have the isk and stuff from the banned accounts 
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Akilah Ashaki
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Posted - 2005.06.24 12:40:00 -
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Originally by: Tommy X
Originally by: Akilah Ashaki
This char are selled for ingame isk between player. CCP charge only a transfer fee to prevent abuse and even if it's profitable for them, Have you a problem with CCP gaining money for their work ?
But if I have 3 accounts and build characters to sell you are making isk from paying money for the accounts and transfer fee.
CCP are making the money and the sellers are getting isk from paying money. Hey I'm, cool with that - just not that far from selling isk on eBay is it?
Indeed but I see 3 major differences :
1¦/ There is no agreement, you wont have x isks for y SP 2¦/ The char sellers isn't assured to get a deal (in your linked thread the seller seems to have probleme to sell his char) 3¦/ (and most important) It's CCP benefiting of the RL cash not a random leech. More cash for CCP = greater EvE support and happy Oveur and TomB. Every serious eve players know the importance of the last point on their game experience 
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SinBin
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Posted - 2005.06.24 12:41:00 -
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I was anti ebay 1's but since I moved to pure pvp it was a handy sorce of isk without having to leave the battle field.
Thats gunno push the the prices up for pvpers that dont mine & do ebay to buy isk & encorage more effort from ebayers but still impressive effort by 1 GM.
Why cant you name & shame if you have the evidance to ban ?.
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Karol Kei
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Posted - 2005.06.24 12:42:00 -
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Job well done.
Thanks.
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Wrangler
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Posted - 2005.06.24 12:45:00 -
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Well, interesting to see how this thread gets off topic. The thing is, selling in game items and in game money for real life money is not allowed and will get you banned. Selling characters for in game money is allowed and will not get you banned. And that should end the discussion on that topic, at least in this thread. Meaning all future posts about it will get deleted. 
[Read the Rules!] - [Email the Moderators] |

Eris Discordia
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Posted - 2005.06.24 12:47:00 -
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I'm very glad that this announcement was made and now you all have an idea how hard the GM's work to stop behaviour that is against the rules.
GM Arkanon is watching you
I ♥ my pink dreadnought of pwnage Mail [email protected] if you have any questions. |

Solusar
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Posted - 2005.06.24 12:48:00 -
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Great work GM's o7
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Typherin laidai
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Posted - 2005.06.24 12:55:00 -
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Originally by: Eris Discordia I'm very glad that this announcement was made and now you all have an idea how hard the GM's work to stop behaviour that is against the rules.
GM Arkanon is watching you
/me looks sheepish...
Ebaying sucks... enough said.
Eris can I have your dreadnaught please ... Or i file a complaint of sexual assault 
/emote points below \/
Originally by: Eris Discordia *gives Typherin some loving*
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GM Arkanon
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Posted - 2005.06.24 12:56:00 -
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Originally by: Tommy X You guys should look in your own back yard before casting the stones. The difference with this scheme is you are making the cashà
clicky
Hello everyone and thanks for your feedback.
I really do not want to get into an argument about whether our policy of allowing character sales from ISK is tantamount to selling ingame items on Ebay. But please consider, before making such allegations, that behind an ebay operation such as the one just *ahem* CRUSHED by the GMs (que maniacal laughter), there are typcally also macro miners, possibly even operated by people hired to do so for dismal pay. We have banned accounts that are obviously some sort of business venture, with accounts numbered (XXX1, XXX2, etc) and that, amongst other things makes you think that this must be some sort of "sweatshop" operation. And we don't want it in EVE.
Macroers and those who deal in ingame items are not contributing anything to this game or it's community. Rather, they feed off it and will happily ruin it, as long as they are making profit. I have no sympathy for these people and neither should you.
By the way, I know I posted the news article, since it's in my job description to grab as much glory as I can, but credit where credit is due: It was GM Rendo who handled the research and investigation and a darn good job he did too. We ban ebayers all the time, we just thought we'd brag about this one 
GM Arkanon
Senior Game Master
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2005.06.24 13:01:00 -
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OWNED.
Good job, Arkanon. <3 GMs/Devs.
-- Dark Shikari: POS Consultant!
Want your POS to make money like mine do? I've designed POSs that make upwards of 50 million a day in profit--each! Just call me up--no ubermoons required! |

Skarsnik
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Posted - 2005.06.24 13:02:00 -
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Good going guys, lets get the evil do-ers out of the game.
While this thread will obviously get some attention from Forum mods and GM's can I ask the following :-
In light of this, is there anything, we the players, can look out for in an attempt to help you weed these evil do-ers out.
If you could give us some guidelines on what to look out for we could be a great asset at times (although I might expect you'd have more info to go through)
Anyone else have any thoughts on this? --------------------------------- No Slugs were harmed in the creation of this signature --------------------------------- |

Nom Anor
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Posted - 2005.06.24 13:03:00 -
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Congrats GMs, good job! I think Ebaying is totally ghey, and people who buy isk from it for new chars miss out on a lot of the game imo. Nice to see you guys are actively seeking out the ebayers and the job you do is a massive help to the community and the eve economy.  Keep bustin' them macros! |

EXZODIER
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Posted - 2005.06.24 13:07:00 -
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Now lets see CCP contact E-bay and tellthem not to allow people to post there auctions on there site surley there is copywrite or something that means they cant
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Tarm
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Posted - 2005.06.24 13:09:00 -
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We thank you for your hard work for the community.
PIE salutes you.
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