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The Shuffle
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Posted - 2005.06.24 23:19:00 -
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hahahaha you didnt get me!
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Zarquon Beeblebrox
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Posted - 2005.06.24 23:21:00 -
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Well done. And lets hope even more isk sellers and macro miners are busted and banned for their actions to ruin our game.
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Mari Y'Tuk
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Posted - 2005.06.24 23:28:00 -
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character names are a legal alias, anmd as such are protected just like a name is.
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Cosmic Dragon
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Posted - 2005.06.24 23:41:00 -
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 Originally by: The Shuffle
hahahaha you didnt get me!
Well considering ccp has all pees info on servers im sure they do now 
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Ryctor
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Posted - 2005.06.24 23:41:00 -
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Edited by: Ryctor on 24/06/2005 23:41:19
Originally by: Mari Y'Tuk
character names are a legal alias, anmd as such are protected just like a name is.
Bull****. Please cite your sources.
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Gojak
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Posted - 2005.06.25 00:01:00 -
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Good job CCP, It's good to see your trying to keep the game clean. 
Having said that, what about the stupid idiots who bought all the ISK that made it worth running such a big operation, what do they get? Warnings, Bans or what else?
Thorjak
Currently on extended Holiday
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Ryctor
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Posted - 2005.06.25 00:02:00 -
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I still dont see the problem letting the general eve population know the CHARACTER names of these cheating *******s. Lots of other games do it. UO did it for a bit. CAL league posts cheaters on a weekly basis. Punkbuster's admins run a global ban list site for game that use their anti-cheat software. Like I said before, I'm with josh. Post their toons names and let the rest of EvE know who the lame asses are that fence ISK on ebay.
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Face Lifter
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Posted - 2005.06.25 00:04:00 -
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I think this is all the right decision, revealing the name makes no difference, I cant see CCP making this up, if they said they banned 80 accounts, then Im sure they banned 80 accounts. people only want to know the names to be nosey and interfering.
You know a society is getting itself into serious trouble when people at the top start thinking like this. Limiting what people know just because somebody doesn't think the knowledge will benefit them is another step towards oppression. The most successful countries of the world have always been the ones with least restrictions on information. And the most worst of them all have been the ones with most severe restrictions. It is always tempting to silence those who disagree with you. But the important lesson people should have learned by now is that those disagreements are needed for progress, and to keep things fair and balanced.
Limiting discussions and restricting information based on what someone up there thinks you "don't really need to know" is very bad. heh Sorry for not being more eloquent, but you get my point.
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Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2005.06.25 00:35:00 -
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Edited by: Maya Rkell on 25/06/2005 00:37:13
Originally by: Joshua Calvert
We're not asking for real names.
Account names in a computer game have no place in any legal proceedings, surely?
Unfortunately, the legal precidents on this are clear. If someone has a name in a game which can be linked elsewhere on the web to personal information.. UO stopped doing it abruptly and for good reason.
You REALLY don't need to know. It's cause CCP problems, and for no good reason.
And Ryctor? Punkbuster would be a good example if it wasn't an invasive, inaccurate piece of spyware crap I'll NEVER let anywhere near my PC.
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Galk
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Posted - 2005.06.25 01:00:00 -
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Originally by: Mari Y'Tuk
character names are a legal alias, anmd as such are protected just like a name is.
Absolute rot.
If it were the case id have grounds to have taken legal action against ccp.
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Wrangler
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Posted - 2005.06.25 01:04:00 -
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It doesn't matter if there are or aren't legal things regarding character names, CCP will not release them anyway. It's been the policy for a lot of years, it is a good policy for many reasons, and it will not change.
Oh, and just for the record, this is a game, this is a privately owned site. This is not a country. Some people seem to have a tendency to mix the two up.
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Galk
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Posted - 2005.06.25 01:17:00 -
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Originally by: Wrangler
Oh, and just for the record, this is a game, this is a privately owned site.
Unfortunatley this is the case, sigh alas it can be used as a platform, while rules are in place to protect people from using this platform as a means of deforming ones character, as in the alias and obviously the person behind it, in the terms apon which and every one of us agreed upon.
You ofcourse would expect these rules to be adirred to in there entirety.
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w0rmy
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Posted - 2005.06.25 01:37:00 -
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Originally by: Wrangler
Oh, and just for the record, this is a game, this is a privately owned site. This is not a country. Some people seem to have a tendency to mix the two up.
Which is still mandated by countrys laws.
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Balistic Void
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Posted - 2005.06.25 01:39:00 -
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Whilst I applaud this action by CCP I have certain reservations... Is this action a smokescreen to hide the _REAL_ economic problems this game is experiencing?
The ebaying (whilst horrid in that it changes the spirit of the game: SOE etc) has little economic impact. As other people have said before, the ebaying doesn't create/destroy isk and thus makes no ingame difference to the rest of us unbanned plebs (disclaimer: see aforementioned parenthesised statement). These days I make my humble isk with little effort (I am too lazy to stripmine the abundant crokite we sit on). People buy 'normal' named shield hardeners for 5 million on the open market ditrigonal/non-inertial etc). This was not the case a few months ago. This is only one example, there are many more. And it isn't people accidentally clicking buy, it's a trend. There are too many people with way too much money. Level 4 missions have ruined this game, and I sincerely hope things aren't too far gone. Flame on...
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H0ot
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Posted - 2005.06.25 02:04:00 -
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"Level 4 missions have ruined this game, and I sincerely hope things aren't too far gone. Flame on..."
Agreed, and it worries me to think CCP have said they won't do anything about mission balance until the next major update (Kali?)
Meanwhile EVE is becoming Counterstrike in space more and more.. Why not just add a "respawn" button that gives you your ship/items/implants back on death, because its basically the same thing as L4's.
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Face Lifter
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Posted - 2005.06.25 03:03:00 -
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Originally by: Maya Rkell
Unfortunately, the legal precidents on this are clear. If someone has a name in a game which can be linked elsewhere on the web to personal information.. UO stopped doing it abruptly and for good reason.
You REALLY don't need to know. It's cause CCP problems, and for no good reason.
What happened in case of UO? I'm curious about the details.
How come I am free to know the in game name of you and everyone else who posts here, but not some guy who got banned? If I was a hacker out to steal people's real names from some game server, why would you protect the names of those bad people but not the names of everyone who posts here? I fail to see the logic
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Face Lifter
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Posted - 2005.06.25 03:16:00 -
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Originally by: Wrangler
It doesn't matter if there are or aren't legal things regarding character names, CCP will not release them anyway. It's been the policy for a lot of years, it is a good policy for many reasons, and it will not change.
What are the good reasons you speak of? I am criticizing current policy because I don't see those good reasons.
It could be an issue of personal preferences, like when something can go either way without making any difference. But in case of information, it's always better to keep information free, no matter how useless it may seem to someone.
Oh, and the point of my analogy about information freedom in countries was not to compare EVE to a county, jeez. The point was to compare communities and the rules that govern them, the effect of such rules.
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DARTHEXIDOUS
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Posted - 2005.06.25 03:50:00 -
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Well done CCP.
Shame you cant impliment some sort of new concord ship that can pickup on macro-miners and gank them thus ridding this scum from game.
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Ryctor
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Posted - 2005.06.25 03:51:00 -
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Originally by: Face Lifter
What happened in case of UO? I'm curious about the details.
From what I remember, Origin stopped publishing the character names of banned players when EA bought them. No one knows the reason WHY, it just stopped all of the sudden.
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Basileus
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Posted - 2005.06.25 07:14:00 -
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Hear! Hear!
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DeMundus
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Posted - 2005.06.25 10:23:00 -
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Originally by: Wrangler
I know that many of you might not always believe us when we say that the GMs actively look for ebayers and other scum of the MMOG world, but here it is! GM Arkanon posted a news item where he tells us they just banned 80 accounts! 
Please remember that discussing activities that are against the EULA such as ebayers and selling in game items and accounts are not allowed, this post is merely a way for us to let you know that Things Are Being DoneÖ! 
You can of course report this kind of behavior to the GMs by petitioning in game or Ask A Question on this website. Emailing the moderators will get it forwarded to the GMs, but we prefer if you petition it to them directly.
So VOTF is no more?
Just joking
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Antic
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Posted - 2005.06.25 11:55:00 -
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Originally by: w0rmy
Originally by: Wrangler
Oh, and just for the record, this is a game, this is a privately owned site. This is not a country. Some people seem to have a tendency to mix the two up.
Which is still mandated by countrys laws.
Seen this discussion before not only in Eve. Fact is that outside the USA there really isnt that many countries, hosting online game servers, that has laws that can be aplied on a virtual property base like this. And many people tend to forget that said online games and the countries they are hostid in are NOT the USA :) For the record, legaly you do not own your character, you dont own jack in eve. You rent it from CCP.
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JimmySav
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Posted - 2005.06.25 12:54:00 -
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Well done CCP.
I for one was appalled when i first heard about selling things from REAL money on Ebay etc.
Its a game, and the minute real money comes into it, fun is at risk, and so is trust...
Keep up the good work.
Jim'll Fix it For You. ( and you and you!)
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Allen Deckard
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Posted - 2005.06.25 13:57:00 -
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Hmm will we see a massive rise in the cost of trit? How much trit did 80 24hr/day add to the market? will be interesting to find out.
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Neon CEO
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Posted - 2005.06.25 13:59:00 -
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Not checked information but one person who wasn't involved in ISK trading and was yesterday banned.In a stressful condition he got drunk and it has gone by his car, now he is in a hospital reanimation branch.I know it just a game but I think CCP should to check closely instead to ban even those who is not guilty. |
Hassis
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Posted - 2005.06.25 14:35:00 -
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thumbs up
real money should not influence on game
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HUGO DRAX
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Posted - 2005.06.25 15:36:00 -
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Isk buyers/sellers attract a different kind of player. Those whose sole purpose is to have the most toys in the game and not put any effort into it. Those kind of players add nothing to the game. Folks who bought from those 80 should also be banned.
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Gwarnina
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Posted - 2005.06.25 16:25:00 -
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Interesting that someone brought up online sweatshops where poor kids slave away for ebayers. Reminded me of a Cory Doctorow short story, Anda's game. Makes an excellent reading.
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Wrangler
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Posted - 2005.06.25 16:40:00 -
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We will not discuss specific cases here, wether you happen to know anyone or not. If a person who was banned feels that he or she didn't do anything wrong he is welcome to contact the GMs about it.
This is still a matter between the GMs and the player(s) they banned, and quite frankly, it's not anyone else's business.
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takegami1
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Posted - 2005.06.25 17:31:00 -
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Originally by: Wrangler
We will not discuss specific cases here, wether you happen to know anyone or not. If a person who was banned feels that he or she didn't do anything wrong he is welcome to contact the GMs about it.
This is still a matter between the GMs and the player(s) they banned, and quite frankly, it's not anyone else's business.
All this is remarkable but your employees do not answer petitions of those who is in banne concerning this case. And even if then they will answer that there will pass a plenty of time and training of skills to stop. As many at present it is valid not guilty people stay now in the suppressed mood personally I in depression from it. I fairly play and for me a shock that char ` s have sent mine in the block.
And I think there is no sense to delete posts - a case with that person which you have cleaned - has really occured in Russia and all of us we hope that all will end with this person well.
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