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Suddenly Forums ForumKings Republic University Minmatar Republic 407	Posted - 2013.01.14 15:43:00 - [1] - Quote Low security status has all kinds of handicaps and restrictions, so why are there no rewards? If EVE is about risk and reward, then -10 players need a reward to offset the vast list of restrictions placed on their toon. For example give everyone with -10 sec status 200% payout bonuses on Pirate missions (like from Angel Cartel and Sansha agents), or maybe a discount on pirate LP stores. Something to make -10 cool again.
masternerdguy nul-li-fy Nulli Secunda 1210	Posted - 2013.01.14 15:49:00 - [2] - Quote Or maybe access to all these sekwet squirrel pirate bases that you are always blowing up in missions Things are only impossible until they are not.
Tiberious Thessalonia True Slave Foundations Shaktipat Revelators 1159	Posted - 2013.01.14 15:49:00 - [3] - Quote Suddenly Forums ForumKings wrote: Low security status has all kinds of handicaps and restrictions, so why are there no rewards? If EVE is about risk and reward, then -10 players need a reward to offset the vast list of restrictions placed on their toon. For example give everyone with -10 sec status 200% payout bonuses on Pirate missions (like from Angel Cartel and Sansha agents), or maybe a discount on pirate LP stores. Something to make -10 cool again. The reward for a sec status of -5 is that people are more willing to fight you anywhere.
Ptraci 3 R Corporation The Irukandji 1188	Posted - 2013.01.14 15:56:00 - [4] - Quote Suddenly Forums ForumKings wrote: Low security status has all kinds of handicaps and restrictions, so why are there no rewards? The reward of low security status is having low security status. Also, the welfare office is that way ---->
Ravnik Choke-Hold 4382	Posted - 2013.01.14 16:02:00 - [5] - Quote There are rewards. They are garanteed unlimited pvp if they so wish! I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched c-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannh+ñuser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain.....Time to die.
masternerdguy nul-li-fy Nulli Secunda 1211	Posted - 2013.01.14 16:03:00 - [6] - Quote Ravnik wrote: There are rewards. They are garanteed unlimited pvp if they so wish! So unlimited PVP is a reward? Now that's a 180* shift of what GD usually says! Things are only impossible until they are not.
No More Heroes GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 2120	Posted - 2013.01.14 16:59:00 - [7] - Quote Suddenly Forums ForumKings wrote: Low security status has all kinds of handicaps and restrictions, so why are there no rewards? If EVE is about risk and reward, then -10 players need a reward to offset the vast list of restrictions placed on their toon. For example give everyone with -10 sec status 200% payout bonuses on Pirate missions (like from Angel Cartel and Sansha agents), or maybe a discount on pirate LP stores. Something to make -10 cool again. This is reasonable. Thumbs up all the way. An entitlement society says that I should be compensated for all the persecution and discrimination I face in highsec. Always follow orders little bees
Xercodo Xovoni Directorate 2083	Posted - 2013.01.14 17:02:00 - [8] - Quote Actually, I agree with OP. Negative sec to work for pirates sounds awesome. The Drake is a Lie
Randolph Rothstein whatever corp. 332	Posted - 2013.01.14 17:03:00 - [9] - Quote the reward for low security status is that we all fear you and are looking up to you ,oh my lord
Minerva Zen Swords of Valor 8	Posted - 2013.01.14 17:07:00 - [10] - Quote You already got the reward; all the loot you got while going negative in the first place. Sorry if you mismanaged that and didn't score juicier kills on the way to -10.0.
Unit757 XVIII Legion Angeli Mortis 33	Posted - 2013.01.14 17:13:00 - [11] - Quote I always thought the reward was getting to laugh at all the idiots who still charge isk for kill rights on us.
Remiel Pollard Aliastra Gallente Federation 1283	Posted - 2013.01.14 17:14:00 - [12] - Quote Suddenly Forums ForumKings wrote: Low security status has all kinds of handicaps and restrictions, so why are there no rewards? If EVE is about risk and reward, then -10 players need a reward to offset the vast list of restrictions placed on their toon. For example give everyone with -10 sec status 200% payout bonuses on Pirate missions (like from Angel Cartel and Sansha agents), or maybe a discount on pirate LP stores. Something to make -10 cool again. EVE is also about consequences. There's a reason your security status is low, it's a measure and a reflection of your toon's 'lawfulness' based on what activities you've decided to participate in. There are no special rewards for +10s either. High security status grants no special treatment whatsoever, but low security status means you're a threat, an outlaw, and probably can't be trusted, hence your 'exile' from high security space. And that's not even enforceable if you aren't sticking around in high sec for too long. When you make the choice to go low, you gotta face the consequences. I wanna go low myself at some stage, maybe when I'm a little more experienced. But the last I checked.... in regards to rewards, you're not missing out on anything that someone with a high security status has except unrestricted access to high security space. Correct me if I'm wrong. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita.
nikon56 UnSkilleD Inc. Reverberation Project 21	Posted - 2013.01.14 17:34:00 - [13] - Quote Tiberious Thessalonia wrote: Suddenly Forums ForumKings wrote: Low security status has all kinds of handicaps and restrictions, so why are there no rewards? If EVE is about risk and reward, then -10 players need a reward to offset the vast list of restrictions placed on their toon. For example give everyone with -10 sec status 200% payout bonuses on Pirate missions (like from Angel Cartel and Sansha agents), or maybe a discount on pirate LP stores. Something to make -10 cool again. The reward for a sec status of -5 is that people are more willing to fight you anywhere. no. as far as i can tell, i still had the same amount of fight, whether i was 0.0 ss or now that i am -10.0. corpmembers with positive ss have no more or less fight than i do. this has to do with the activity of the area, nothing more. i do not especially want any reward asociated with it tho, but i have to admit this would be great.
No More Heroes GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 2120	Posted - 2013.01.14 17:47:00 - [14] - Quote Minerva Zen wrote: You already got the reward; all the loot you got while going negative in the first place. Sorry if you mismanaged that and didn't score juicier kills on the way to -10.0. I didnt really get any loot. Miniluv had a newbee pod-killing contest in Jita Always follow orders little bees
Solstice Project Highsec Outlaw Elementary School 2543	Posted - 2013.01.14 18:30:00 - [15] - Quote (read this like if somebody wants to sell you something. fast. ^_^) Lots of rewards for being -10. Much more than for being +10, tbh. First of all, some of us are actually feared. Like ... that one guy who was moving around in his pod and saw me haul stuff in a frig ... he freaked out and warped off, because he thought i was after him. I have the mail somewhere, had him mentioned on my bio for a while. Funny story. ^_^ Then there's the benefit of actually being recognized, in comparison to a +10 who gets ignored just like every other nobody else, like ... you ? I mean ... really. We're red ! We flash ! It screams "LOOK HE'S FAMOUS!" ! Then we always have an easy way to find combat. Always ! Well ... not all of us, of course. There's no combat for those losers who hide in station, using neutral alts to seek "targets". But hey, these guys are noobs and cowards and we really ... ... we really can't blame them, really. Really ? Really, i tell ya ! Then there's fame. If done right, there's lots ... LOTS ... of fame to be had. And money. Money ! MoneyMoneyMoneyMoney ! People throw money and ships at you ! Money, i tell ya ! Like, for example, four Cynabals. Yes. Four ! For shooting people ! For being -10 ! For not hiding ! For not needing alts ! FOUR CYNABALS ! Imagine that ! Anyway, being -10 is much more rewarding than being a +10 carebear, or +5, as reaching +10 isn't possible anymore anyway. Ohohoh ! That reminds me ... there IS a huge reward for being +5 ! I recognize you ! And when i recognize you, several others recognize you ! Don't believe me ? Ha ! Just last week i saw a guy who was above +5 ! He had +5.1 ! Woah, +5.1 !! This small, but AWESOME fact, made me hunt him for ten minutes ! Ten minutes ! And then I finally got him in a pipe system! Ten minutes ! He would have had the ride of his life, if he would have been at the keyboard !! Too bad he missed it ! Now i hear you ask "Where's the fame ??" Well ... now he's mentioned in my bio ! And people actually read that bio ! And they laugh at people mentioned in my bio ! And there, on my bio, they see a guy with +5.1 who hast just lost his Crystal-Set ! A crystal-set ! Now if that ain't fame, i don't know what fame is ! Fame, i tell ya ! ^_^ Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire
Mai Khumm Carbon Circle Tactical Narcotics Team 409	Posted - 2013.01.14 19:32:00 - [16] - Quote Players with -10 status have the reward of "Running for their lives" in Highsec, and more "victims" are willing to engage them in lowsec... Being a pie is reward in itself... insert witty saying here
Sergeant Acht Scultz School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 468	Posted - 2013.01.14 19:38:00 - [17] - Quote Suddenly Forums ForumKings wrote: Low security status has all kinds of handicaps and restrictions, so why are there no rewards? More rewards? -Still able to travel with your ship in high sec: check -still able to to use your guns and kill other ships: check -still able to use empire facilities: check I think I forgot some more funky stuff but whatever. 8/10 nice work.
Le Badass Zealots of Bob 50	Posted - 2013.01.14 19:42:00 - [18] - Quote OP is a little confused because the reward came before the effort.
Tiberious Thessalonia True Slave Foundations Shaktipat Revelators 1162	Posted - 2013.01.14 19:53:00 - [19] - Quote nikon56 wrote: Tiberious Thessalonia wrote: Suddenly Forums ForumKings wrote: Low security status has all kinds of handicaps and restrictions, so why are there no rewards? If EVE is about risk and reward, then -10 players need a reward to offset the vast list of restrictions placed on their toon. For example give everyone with -10 sec status 200% payout bonuses on Pirate missions (like from Angel Cartel and Sansha agents), or maybe a discount on pirate LP stores. Something to make -10 cool again. The reward for a sec status of -5 is that people are more willing to fight you anywhere. no. as far as i can tell, i still had the same amount of fight, whether i was 0.0 ss or now that i am -10.0. corpmembers with positive ss have no more or less fight than i do. this has to do with the activity of the area, nothing more. i do not especially want any reward asociated with it tho, but i have to admit this would be great. No, I mean its an incentive thing. People are much less likely to attack you on gates or stations if you are not below -5, because they would be fighting with the penalty of gate guns. Since my entire corp is now outlaw, it does mean however that we can't trick people into shooting our one non-outlaw guy first. We have had to adapt our tactics to that reality.
Unsuccessful At Everything The Troll Bridge 1535	Posted - 2013.01.14 20:00:00 - [20] - Quote being -10 is its own reward. *Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?*
Vaju Enki Secular Wisdom 325	Posted - 2013.01.14 20:01:00 - [21] - Quote -10 is the reward If you want instant gratification, go stimulate your genitals. EvE is Hard, deal with it.
Galaxy Pig New Order Logistics CODE. 621	Posted - 2013.01.14 20:29:00 - [22] - Quote +1 love the idea about benefits from pirate factions.
Karrl Tian Exiled Assassins 155	Posted - 2013.01.14 20:40:00 - [23] - Quote Their reward is more pvp.
Pewty McPew Pillage Plunder And Rape Industries 156	Posted - 2013.01.14 21:11:00 - [24] - Quote Suddenly Forums ForumKings wrote: Low security status has all kinds of handicaps and restrictions, so why are there no rewards? If EVE is about risk and reward, then -10 players need a reward to offset the vast list of restrictions placed on their toon. For example give everyone with -10 sec status 200% payout bonuses on Pirate missions (like from Angel Cartel and Sansha agents), or maybe a discount on pirate LP stores. Something to make -10 cool again. You do get a reward, Concord throws a party for you (Complete with pretty fireworks) every time you enter hi-sec.
Klyde Big Diggers C0NVICTED 0	Posted - 2013.01.14 21:14:00 - [25] - Quote The reward for being -10 is the insane grind to get back under -2.0 so you can once again fly anywhere you want and not be bothered. Insane!!
Marius Deterium Crush Kill Destroy 0	Posted - 2013.01.14 22:39:00 - [26] - Quote Quote: You do get a reward, Concord throws a party for you (Complete with pretty fireworks) every time you enter hi-sec. No they don't. Derp.
Solstice Project Highsec Outlaw Elementary School 2546	Posted - 2013.01.15 01:08:00 - [27] - Quote Klyde wrote: The reward for being -10 is the insane grind to get back under -2.0 so you can once again fly anywhere you want and not be bothered. Insane!! I keep shooting these pods, but my secstatus doesn't go up. What am i doing wrong ??? Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire
DeMichael Crimson Republic University Minmatar Republic 4911	Posted - 2013.01.15 01:29:00 - [28] - Quote Well, not everyone can be a +10 DMC
Piugattuk Lima beans Corp 291	Posted - 2013.01.15 01:32:00 - [29] - Quote Well upon reading and thinking about it, I'd say there's not much as far as rewards to reward a -10, extra rewards from agent? ?? There are already skills books to train namely criminal connections to increase rewards just the same as a +5 hi sec missioner and I cannot get access to snake implants or other nice stuff only thru pirate corps same as you may not have access to Caldari agents we have to buy them off each other. In a real sense -10's have more freedom cause they do as they wish damn the concern with status. It's not like they miss hi sec too much. Low sec has it's own rewards like higher paying PVE activities. But let me digress, I don't think there's much of anything to do.
Qvar Dar'Zanar EVE University Ivy League 226	Posted - 2013.01.15 02:41:00 - [30] - Quote I have no job why doesn't somebody give me a reward.

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