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Ion Kirst
KIRSTONE ALLIANCE
34
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Posted - 2013.01.16 22:04:00 -
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OK guys, enough. You donGÇÖt know what the frack you talking about in your cuts at me. You make assumptions (know what they say about that).
I do not want EVE to cater to me. I never said that, that is your (ahem) entitled opinion. I would love to have the time to be in null sec with the Inf1deles. I want to have the time to take part in Incursion fleets. I would love to spend hours and hours playing EVE, and I am envious of those who can. So I do missions, and just tried OB.
GÇ£Hardly makes use of servicesGÇ¥ . . . dude you have no idea of what I have done over the last 5 years. Over that time, I have spent 2-3 hours every night (probably about 95%) of the time playing EVE.
I accept the fact that all activities (in EVE) are not suited for my play style. I can be disappointed, but I am still here. But the disappointment is not with the EVE game itself. The disappointment is in what I mentioned before, like trying to follow the mechanics of OB in there admitted vague steps. And what does posting on the forum do, blows things out of proportion as usual.
Jen, the game does not revolve around me. I never said that. I donGÇÖt want EVE to revolve around me. Where did you get that, or did you pull that out of your *ss. You assume what you perceive, which isnGÇÖt based on fact. DonGÇÖt read words into what I wrote. Oh, and your football example was just plain stupid.
Oh, baby, I would love to have this post stickie.
Could we get back to the OP, or is this where it digressed too. Maybe just lock this, as what more can really be said.
-Kirst |
Zaraz Zaraz
Imperial Planetology Academy
71
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Posted - 2013.01.17 00:02:00 -
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Suicide ganking planets in hisec.
The biggest loot pinadas ever! Who knows what will 'drop out'!!!
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oldbutfeelingyoung
Perkone Caldari State
962
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Posted - 2013.01.17 05:53:00 -
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Sarah Schneider wrote:oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:So DUST is a super HI-sec expansion in FW-lowsec,you have to have approval to shoot at planets.
So how would you feel, if someone activates their "mega death ray" out of nowhere, not even in grid, not even in the same system with you, while you're battling some gang or doing missions or incursions or whatever and cause your ship and everything around you to suddenly explode?
how would you feel ,if you have to ask the asteroid to shoot the miner.
can say stupid things also ,you know. ooow wiat,......i always do R.S.I2014
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oldbutfeelingyoung
Perkone Caldari State
964
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Posted - 2013.01.17 17:29:00 -
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So we don,t ask permissions in EvE ,but we have to when Console kids come into picture? So Dust is the best thing happening to EvE,right? R.S.I2014
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Kristopher Rocancourt
Quality Assurance
26
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Posted - 2013.01.17 18:49:00 -
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CCP FoxFour wrote:Liner Xiandra wrote:Orbital bombardments happen in lowsec FW systems, and only during corp-vs-corp battles between Dust corps. Not on the temperate planets in a hisec system.
Corp battles are arranged beforehand and have set dates when and where these battles will occur. Talk to a Dust corp director (they get to arrange corp battles) and maybe they'll share this information with you.
Note that any dust or FW corp worth their salt will not disclose this information to randoms, as it is a combined effort that requires planning & is a security risk.
It was available to try on the test server Singularity between Christmas and last week. This man sums it up pretty well. Orbital bombardments are not something you can go around and just toss out. They are something that require organization and planning.
which makes it as lame as we all expected it to be. "May we have permission to nuke the hell out of you from space?" "no im not telling you where we are..." "oh ok then... guess i will go back to being a carebear in the padded cell they call high sec..." |
oldbutfeelingyoung
Perkone Caldari State
967
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Posted - 2013.01.17 20:13:00 -
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Kristopher Rocancourt wrote:CCP FoxFour wrote:Liner Xiandra wrote:Orbital bombardments happen in lowsec FW systems, and only during corp-vs-corp battles between Dust corps. Not on the temperate planets in a hisec system.
Corp battles are arranged beforehand and have set dates when and where these battles will occur. Talk to a Dust corp director (they get to arrange corp battles) and maybe they'll share this information with you.
Note that any dust or FW corp worth their salt will not disclose this information to randoms, as it is a combined effort that requires planning & is a security risk.
It was available to try on the test server Singularity between Christmas and last week. This man sums it up pretty well. Orbital bombardments are not something you can go around and just toss out. They are something that require organization and planning. which makes it as lame as we all expected it to be. "May we have permission to nuke the hell out of you from space?" "no im not telling you where we are..." "oh ok then... guess i will go back to being a carebear in the padded cell they call high sec..."
You still have the chance to shoot at planets,must count for something
i wonder ,will you get concorded ,if you could shoot at a planet without approval
R.S.I2014
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silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
379
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Posted - 2013.01.17 20:31:00 -
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oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:
i wonder ,will you get concorded ,if you could shoot at a planet without approval
Seems like a reasonably appropriate reaction. After all, no one asked to be blown up, therefore probably an outlaw action: Concordokken!
Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing. |
Kitty Bear
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam Disturbed Acquaintance
538
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Posted - 2013.01.17 20:39:00 -
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Desert Ice78 wrote:CCP FoxFour wrote:Liner Xiandra wrote:Orbital bombardments happen in lowsec FW systems, and only during corp-vs-corp battles between Dust corps. Not on the temperate planets in a hisec system.
Corp battles are arranged beforehand and have set dates when and where these battles will occur. Talk to a Dust corp director (they get to arrange corp battles) and maybe they'll share this information with you.
Note that any dust or FW corp worth their salt will not disclose this information to randoms, as it is a combined effort that requires planning & is a security risk.
It was available to try on the test server Singularity between Christmas and last week. This man sums it up pretty well. Orbital bombardments are not something you can go around and just toss out. They are something that require organization and planning. Awwwwww...you mean I don't get to sit in orbit and pulverize the planet below?!?!?!?! CCP FoxFour, you disappoint me. *sad face*
Compared to the power output of even a small planet, an Erebus produces practically 0 power. Applying thats planets power output to high energy x-ray lasers ... even a titan pilot should think twice about making that bombardment approach run, into the firing range of said defences.
I say give the Dust Bunnies weapons that can 1-2 shot ANY non-allied ship in orbit. Give them SoonGäó |
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
380
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Posted - 2013.01.17 20:53:00 -
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Kitty Bear wrote:
I say give the Dust Bunnies weapons that can 1-2 shot ANY non-allied ship in orbit. Give them SoonGäó
Should this come to pass, I predict a new Dusty Bunny joke:
"What do you call a dessy in low orbit?" "Skeet."
Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing. |
Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
1168
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Posted - 2013.01.17 20:58:00 -
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Ion Kirst wrote:
Jen, the game does not revolve around me. I never said that. I donGÇÖt want EVE to revolve around me. Where did you get that, or did you pull that out of your *ss. You assume what you perceive, which isnGÇÖt based on fact. DonGÇÖt read words into what I wrote. Oh, and your football example was just plain stupid.[
Dude,you owe me a keyboard, I just spewed soda everywhere reading this. I'll try not to read words into your word no more, promise.
Fact remains you are doing it wrong. I have to wonder at people like you, you make a post, MULTIPLE people tell you you've got it wrong, and it's everyone else's fault. Amazing. |
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Ranzabar
Aliastra Gallente Federation
43
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Posted - 2013.01.17 21:41:00 -
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Here we have the expensive development of Dust...on a PS3 , and then you make it headscratchingly intriguing to engage these guys. That business model only works if 6 people who know what to do are paying $1,238,200.76 a month to play.
It's like advertising a new Porsche, setting up dealerships, scheduling test drives, then giving the buyer a cardboard cutout of the car and hoping he'll be satisfied making vrooom sounds.
Weird. Abide |
Zaraz Zaraz
Imperial Planetology Academy
71
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Posted - 2013.01.17 23:24:00 -
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silens vesica wrote:oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:
i wonder ,will you get concorded ,if you could shoot at a planet without approval
Seems like a reasonably appropriate reaction. After all, no one asked to be blown up, therefore probably an outlaw action: Concordokken!
Should be able to suicide gank entire planetary civilian populations in hisec...
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Ion Kirst
KIRSTONE ALLIANCE
34
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Posted - 2013.01.18 02:15:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Ion Kirst wrote:
Jen, the game does not revolve around me. I never said that. I donGÇÖt want EVE to revolve around me. Where did you get that, or did you pull that out of your *ss. You assume what you perceive, which isnGÇÖt based on fact. DonGÇÖt read words into what I wrote. Oh, and your football example was just plain stupid.[
Dude,you owe me a keyboard, I just spewed soda everywhere reading this. I'll try not to read words into your word no more, promise. Fact remains you are doing it wrong. I have to wonder at people like you, you make a post, MULTIPLE people tell you you've got it wrong, and it's everyone else's fault. Amazing.
The definition of amazing in this post is the people who cannot read!
People like me? Wow another dig? How about people like you? (touche)
I originally said that I followed the steps laid out in "OB Mechanics". It was admitted that the steps should have included more information, and that they were vague. I'd have everyone read it if they could. The mechanics did not say, that the mercs in those 48 systems could not participate in OB. So when I got to one of the systems I asked them. (one guy said they were just driving the jeeps around in circles.) They didn't know when they would need an OB strike.
I just didn't want to "shoot a planet", I wanted to assist the mercs on the surface. I found out that I couldn't, and that was the disappointment. That's all there was too this.
Actually, I did it right.
. . . and Jen, you did it again, you've accused me blaming other people, when I didn't. You just can't help yourself can you. Oh, wait, maybe I read it wrong. Let me quote you . . .
. . . I make a post, MULTIPLE people tell me I've got it wrong and it's their fault. Wow, I misunderstood, I thought you were slamming me again. So now your blaming them? Amazing. (See how that works.)
-Kirst
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fukier
RISE of LEGION
726
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Posted - 2013.01.18 02:54:00 -
[74] - Quote
RomeStar wrote:Dust will be dead by this time next year and I will quote this post once it happens to prove it.
is it ok if i quote this post in a year when dust is a massive hit? At the end of the game both the pawn and the Queen go in the same box. |
Meraxes Tykjen
Ahrendee Mercenaries
0
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Posted - 2013.02.07 21:03:00 -
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[quote=RomeStar][quote=Arronicus] Dust is actually fun. Quote:
Ask yourself will it still be fun when all the console gamers get tired of yet another FPS and choose to go play COD 5000 and you are still sitting there all by your lonesome self shooting at nothing or constantly being sniped by some pimple faced teenager sitting in his parents basement.
Dont get me wrong I love the idea of integrating a planet game with EVE but I think they would have have better sucess if they had made it a strategy game similiar to Civilization and not a FPS and made it for the PC not some outdated console that will be extinct in a few years.
I have played dust and I actually enjoyed it but after 30 mins or so It became alittle mundane and this is coming from someone who loved COD and who played it constantly for hours on end.
The less COD babies that's in Dust 514, the better. Thanks for your input. Hopefully all COD players think the same about Dust 514 and leaves it well alone. |
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
1160
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Posted - 2013.02.07 21:15:00 -
[76] - Quote
CCP FoxFour wrote:Liner Xiandra wrote:Orbital bombardments happen in lowsec FW systems, and only during corp-vs-corp battles between Dust corps. Not on the temperate planets in a hisec system.
Corp battles are arranged beforehand and have set dates when and where these battles will occur. Talk to a Dust corp director (they get to arrange corp battles) and maybe they'll share this information with you.
Note that any dust or FW corp worth their salt will not disclose this information to randoms, as it is a combined effort that requires planning & is a security risk.
It was available to try on the test server Singularity between Christmas and last week. This man sums it up pretty well. Orbital bombardments are not something you can go around and just toss out. They are something that require organization and planning.
I failed to read that until today... So as much as interacting with dust bunnies requires thorough planning and organization and scheduling and preparation and wasting heaps of time just to push a bloody button and see nothing happen... That truly is EVE at its finest, congratulations on a job well done. I was a bit worried that DUST could derail the stagnation express, but now I see that all is back on track... CCP Unifex: -á"lurking single players (...)-áare the majority of characters on Tranquility"
...And so now we know why CCP hasn't done anything for soloers since Apochrypha. |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
3507
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Posted - 2013.02.07 21:44:00 -
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:CCP FoxFour wrote:Liner Xiandra wrote:Orbital bombardments happen in lowsec FW systems, and only during corp-vs-corp battles between Dust corps. Not on the temperate planets in a hisec system.
Corp battles are arranged beforehand and have set dates when and where these battles will occur. Talk to a Dust corp director (they get to arrange corp battles) and maybe they'll share this information with you.
Note that any dust or FW corp worth their salt will not disclose this information to randoms, as it is a combined effort that requires planning & is a security risk.
It was available to try on the test server Singularity between Christmas and last week. This man sums it up pretty well. Orbital bombardments are not something you can go around and just toss out. They are something that require organization and planning. I failed to read that until today... So as much as interacting with dust bunnies requires thorough planning and organization and scheduling and preparation and wasting heaps of time just to push a bloody button and see nothing happen... That truly is EVE at its finest, congratulations on a job well done. I was a bit worried that DUST could derail the stagnation express, but now I see that all is back on track... If the DUST bunnies are in your corp (or at least under contract and in your coms) it doesn't take even as much effort as organizing a hot drop. Not to say that organizing a hot drop doesn't require organization and planning, but it's really not that big a deal when your corps standard operating procedure already has the right people in the right places with the right skills... like most "good" corps do. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
Zapp Brenigan
Ishukone Black Watch
0
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Posted - 2013.02.07 22:17:00 -
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Desert Ice78 wrote:CCP FoxFour wrote:Liner Xiandra wrote:Orbital bombardments happen in lowsec FW systems, and only during corp-vs-corp battles between Dust corps. Not on the temperate planets in a hisec system.
Corp battles are arranged beforehand and have set dates when and where these battles will occur. Talk to a Dust corp director (they get to arrange corp battles) and maybe they'll share this information with you.
Note that any dust or FW corp worth their salt will not disclose this information to randoms, as it is a combined effort that requires planning & is a security risk.
It was available to try on the test server Singularity between Christmas and last week. This man sums it up pretty well. Orbital bombardments are not something you can go around and just toss out. They are something that require organization and planning. Awwwwww...you mean I don't get to sit in orbit and pulverize the planet below?!?!?!?! CCP FoxFour, you disappoint me. *sad face*
I'm sure most Dust Bunnies would be all for randoms OBing them as long as they have the ability to target orbiting ships with ICBM's or an orbital defense grid. I'd love to see the whining when kb's start filling up with 'Random Pansy' killed by 'DustBunny123' using 'Orbital Beam Weapon X'. |
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
1160
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Posted - 2013.02.07 23:22:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:CCP FoxFour wrote:Liner Xiandra wrote:Orbital bombardments happen in lowsec FW systems, and only during corp-vs-corp battles between Dust corps. Not on the temperate planets in a hisec system.
Corp battles are arranged beforehand and have set dates when and where these battles will occur. Talk to a Dust corp director (they get to arrange corp battles) and maybe they'll share this information with you.
Note that any dust or FW corp worth their salt will not disclose this information to randoms, as it is a combined effort that requires planning & is a security risk.
It was available to try on the test server Singularity between Christmas and last week. This man sums it up pretty well. Orbital bombardments are not something you can go around and just toss out. They are something that require organization and planning. I failed to read that until today... So as much as interacting with dust bunnies requires thorough planning and organization and scheduling and preparation and wasting heaps of time just to push a bloody button and see nothing happen... That truly is EVE at its finest, congratulations on a job well done. I was a bit worried that DUST could derail the stagnation express, but now I see that all is back on track... If the DUST bunnies are in your corp (or at least under contract and in your coms) it doesn't take even as much effort as organizing a hot drop. Not to say that organizing a hot drop doesn't require organization and planning, but it's really not that big a deal when your corps standard operating procedure already has the right people in the right places with the right skills... like most "good" corps do.
Just read my signature and learn on the improvements of adding yet another awfully time comsuming multiplayer chore to EVE when you compare it to what people actually does in game. CCP Unifex: -á"lurking single players (...)-áare the majority of characters on Tranquility"
...And so now we know why CCP hasn't done anything for soloers since Apochrypha. |
Zaraz Zaraz
Imperial Planetology Academy
77
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Posted - 2013.02.07 23:22:00 -
[80] - Quote
Zapp Brenigan wrote:Desert Ice78 wrote:CCP FoxFour wrote:Liner Xiandra wrote:Orbital bombardments happen in lowsec FW systems, and only during corp-vs-corp battles between Dust corps. Not on the temperate planets in a hisec system.
Corp battles are arranged beforehand and have set dates when and where these battles will occur. Talk to a Dust corp director (they get to arrange corp battles) and maybe they'll share this information with you.
Note that any dust or FW corp worth their salt will not disclose this information to randoms, as it is a combined effort that requires planning & is a security risk.
It was available to try on the test server Singularity between Christmas and last week. This man sums it up pretty well. Orbital bombardments are not something you can go around and just toss out. They are something that require organization and planning. Awwwwww...you mean I don't get to sit in orbit and pulverize the planet below?!?!?!?! CCP FoxFour, you disappoint me. *sad face* I'm sure most Dust Bunnies would be all for randoms OBing them as long as they have the ability to target orbiting ships with ICBM's or an orbital defense grid. I'd love to see the whining when kb's start filling up with 'Random Pansy' killed by 'DustBunny123' using 'Orbital Beam Weapon X'.
Will the Eve OB pilot get one KM for every dust bunny they nuke from orbit?
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Arronicus
Vintas Industries Mistakes Were Made.
176
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Posted - 2013.02.08 00:05:00 -
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Zaraz Zaraz wrote:Zapp Brenigan wrote:Desert Ice78 wrote:CCP FoxFour wrote:Liner Xiandra wrote:Orbital bombardments happen in lowsec FW systems, and only during corp-vs-corp battles between Dust corps. Not on the temperate planets in a hisec system.
Corp battles are arranged beforehand and have set dates when and where these battles will occur. Talk to a Dust corp director (they get to arrange corp battles) and maybe they'll share this information with you.
Note that any dust or FW corp worth their salt will not disclose this information to randoms, as it is a combined effort that requires planning & is a security risk.
It was available to try on the test server Singularity between Christmas and last week. This man sums it up pretty well. Orbital bombardments are not something you can go around and just toss out. They are something that require organization and planning. Awwwwww...you mean I don't get to sit in orbit and pulverize the planet below?!?!?!?! CCP FoxFour, you disappoint me. *sad face* I'm sure most Dust Bunnies would be all for randoms OBing them as long as they have the ability to target orbiting ships with ICBM's or an orbital defense grid. I'd love to see the whining when kb's start filling up with 'Random Pansy' killed by 'DustBunny123' using 'Orbital Beam Weapon X'. Will the Eve OB pilot get one KM for every dust bunny they nuke from orbit?
Nope! |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
3508
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Posted - 2013.02.08 00:25:00 -
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:CCP FoxFour wrote:Liner Xiandra wrote:Orbital bombardments happen in lowsec FW systems, and only during corp-vs-corp battles between Dust corps. Not on the temperate planets in a hisec system.
Corp battles are arranged beforehand and have set dates when and where these battles will occur. Talk to a Dust corp director (they get to arrange corp battles) and maybe they'll share this information with you.
Note that any dust or FW corp worth their salt will not disclose this information to randoms, as it is a combined effort that requires planning & is a security risk.
It was available to try on the test server Singularity between Christmas and last week. This man sums it up pretty well. Orbital bombardments are not something you can go around and just toss out. They are something that require organization and planning. I failed to read that until today... So as much as interacting with dust bunnies requires thorough planning and organization and scheduling and preparation and wasting heaps of time just to push a bloody button and see nothing happen... That truly is EVE at its finest, congratulations on a job well done. I was a bit worried that DUST could derail the stagnation express, but now I see that all is back on track... If the DUST bunnies are in your corp (or at least under contract and in your coms) it doesn't take even as much effort as organizing a hot drop. Not to say that organizing a hot drop doesn't require organization and planning, but it's really not that big a deal when your corps standard operating procedure already has the right people in the right places with the right skills... like most "good" corps do. Just read my signature and learn on the improvements of adding yet another awfully time comsuming multiplayer chore to EVE when you compare it to what people actually does in game. Sure, and while we are at it you might be pleased with what you find in the CSM meeting notes concerning that very issue. It appears that single player pursuits are gaining needed recognition from CCP, which is good. But that is certainly no indication that team play is going to be (or should be) neglected in current and future development.
You might also consider that there are many people already doing planetary bombardment, and far from considering the few minutes required a "chore" they consider it entertaining to watch the planets surface light up and the kill notifications scroll across their screen.
Planetary bombardment in particular is one area of game play in EvE that needs a cooperative element to avoid ruining associated game play. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
2192
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Posted - 2013.02.08 00:28:00 -
[83] - Quote
RomeStar wrote:Dust will be dead by this time next year and I will quote this post once it happens to prove it.
I would bookmark this to pull it up in a year just to laugh at you, but you'll be long gone by then.
Mr Epeen
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |
oldbutfeelingyoung
Perkone Caldari State
994
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Posted - 2013.02.08 03:26:00 -
[84] - Quote
Ranger 1 wrote:
Sure, and while we are at it you might be pleased with what you find in the CSM meeting notes concerning that very issue. It appears that single player pursuits are gaining needed recognition from CCP, which is good. But that is certainly no indication that team play is going to be (or should be) neglected in current and future development.
You might also consider that there are many people already doing planetary bombardment, and far from considering the few minutes required a "chore" they consider it entertaining to watch the planets surface light up and the kill notifications scroll across their screen.
Planetary bombardment in particular is one area of game play in EvE that needs a cooperative element to avoid ruining associated game play.
I am not an miner ,but people say mining is boring gameplay ,bc you can only shoot a laser at a asteroid. but shooting a planet is gameplay .
hmmm i find this interesting R.S.I2014
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
1160
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Posted - 2013.02.08 07:48:00 -
[85] - Quote
Ranger 1 wrote:(...) Sure, and while we are at it you might be pleased with what you find in the CSM meeting notes concerning that very issue. It appears that single player pursuits are gaining needed recognition from CCP, which is good. But that is certainly no indication that team play is going to be (or should be) neglected in current and future development.
You might also consider that there are many people already doing planetary bombardment, and far from considering the few minutes required a "chore" they consider it entertaining to watch the planets surface light up and the kill notifications scroll across their screen.
Planetary bombardment in particular is one area of game play in EvE that needs a cooperative element to avoid ruining associated game play.
I read the minutes, and my signature comes from there.
I don't oppose that "politically correct" gameplay gets attention, but I am pretty negative about CCP's abbility to get anything right. The worst and most serious t issues from the Incarnageddon haven't been accounted for, and just now CCP appears to start thinking about figuring a way to suppose how to get a hint on why TQ population is a dead horse that needs being stimulated with price rebates and aggressive markting (in my books, offering "power of 2" to just-subcribed players Is aggressive marketing).
CCP is late and stagnation express is on the track and running well towards damnation. CCP has spent years and god know how many millions in developing a game whose link to EVE includes the same flaws that prevent EVE from reaching a healthy sustained population. Seriously, I was concerned on wether DUST's advertising of "just log in and join any random battle" was true, but it turns it is not. DUST is serious business and no serious FC will allow his squad be lost because they just allowed a nobody to join them. Which means that DUST's entry barrier will mimick EVE's learning cliff with the foreseable consequence of having few but dedicated users. Just they won't be paying a subscription, and may be dedicated enough to don't need to throw a single cent into CCP's pockets. CCP Unifex: -á"lurking single players (...)-áare the majority of characters on Tranquility"
...And so now we know why CCP hasn't done anything for soloers since Apochrypha. |
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
1160
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Posted - 2013.02.08 07:50:00 -
[86] - Quote
oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:
Sure, and while we are at it you might be pleased with what you find in the CSM meeting notes concerning that very issue. It appears that single player pursuits are gaining needed recognition from CCP, which is good. But that is certainly no indication that team play is going to be (or should be) neglected in current and future development.
You might also consider that there are many people already doing planetary bombardment, and far from considering the few minutes required a "chore" they consider it entertaining to watch the planets surface light up and the kill notifications scroll across their screen.
Planetary bombardment in particular is one area of game play in EvE that needs a cooperative element to avoid ruining associated game play.
I am not an miner ,but people say mining is boring gameplay ,bc you can only shoot a laser at a asteroid. but shooting a planet is gameplay . hmmm i find this interesting
Even worst, i heard a rumor that they're actually shooting Barbies on that planet. CCP Unifex: -á"lurking single players (...)-áare the majority of characters on Tranquility"
...And so now we know why CCP hasn't done anything for soloers since Apochrypha. |
Zaraz Zaraz
Imperial Planetology Academy
78
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Posted - 2013.02.08 11:48:00 -
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:
Sure, and while we are at it you might be pleased with what you find in the CSM meeting notes concerning that very issue. It appears that single player pursuits are gaining needed recognition from CCP, which is good. But that is certainly no indication that team play is going to be (or should be) neglected in current and future development.
You might also consider that there are many people already doing planetary bombardment, and far from considering the few minutes required a "chore" they consider it entertaining to watch the planets surface light up and the kill notifications scroll across their screen.
Planetary bombardment in particular is one area of game play in EvE that needs a cooperative element to avoid ruining associated game play.
I am not an miner ,but people say mining is boring gameplay ,bc you can only shoot a laser at a asteroid. but shooting a planet is gameplay . hmmm i find this interesting Even worst, i heard a rumor that they're actually shooting Barbies on that planet.
Just throw another Barbie on the prawn...
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Aracimia Wolfe
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Posted - 2013.02.08 12:18:00 -
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Zaraz Zaraz wrote:Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:
Sure, and while we are at it you might be pleased with what you find in the CSM meeting notes concerning that very issue. It appears that single player pursuits are gaining needed recognition from CCP, which is good. But that is certainly no indication that team play is going to be (or should be) neglected in current and future development.
You might also consider that there are many people already doing planetary bombardment, and far from considering the few minutes required a "chore" they consider it entertaining to watch the planets surface light up and the kill notifications scroll across their screen.
Planetary bombardment in particular is one area of game play in EvE that needs a cooperative element to avoid ruining associated game play.
I am not an miner ,but people say mining is boring gameplay ,bc you can only shoot a laser at a asteroid. but shooting a planet is gameplay . hmmm i find this interesting Even worst, i heard a rumor that they're actually shooting Barbies on that planet. Just throw another Barbie on the prawn...
Mining People is more fun than mining rocks. Theres a higher tear per hour ratio I like my coffee like I like my men. In a plastic cup http://aracimia.blogspot.co.uk/ |
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Ikon Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2013.04.28 12:37:00 -
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I have an opinion on this matter...
I think you would get more participation if they remember to "KISS"... For those of you who don't know, that stands for Keep It Simple Stupid!
Orbital bombardment should not involve FW. Set it up so tho Dust people can write up contracts for orbital bombardment! No different than courier contracts...
AT X planet in X system at X time... for X duration... FOR THE LOVE OF GOD IN HIGHSEC!!! (does no good if the pvp greifers can wantonly attack whomever they want. Especially nkowing in advance where their MARK is going to be. That's what low sec and 0.0 are for) I Digress.
An eve pilot can then accept the contract and in order to get PAID most be at said planet ONSTATION awaiting Strike package. IF/WHEN the order comes in. Go Weapons HOT! ??? Profit Bonus paid for successful strikes. Also easy enough to write up several contracts for the same place and time to have more ships in the area. The longer time ONSTA the higher the price... also maybe with higher payouts if there are enemy contractors in the area... last bit would be tough to figure out how to do properly but you get the idea.
Here's where it gets interesting...
The RIVAL dust people can ALSO make up contracts. IF opposing contracts appear at the same planet at the same time AND a Strike package is attacked... the opposing contractor gets to attack the bombarding ship and vice versa. A contractor CAN warp OFFSTA... but to get paid must spend a minimum of lets say 80% of the contracted time ONSTA. with a bonus for 100% contract completion. and diminishing payout down to say 50% of the contracted time. After which the contract is failed.
NOW!
To keep it "Strategic" with the planning and whatnot... allow for "dummy contracts" Dummy contracts pay the same as regular contracts, but are meant to keep the other dust faction guessing... They look same as normal contracts but you don't know where the attack is going to be exactly til the fighting begins... the REAL ISK is in performing hot strikes...
You may get a lot of dummy contracts but hey you get paid to sit and do nothing... ALSO if you establish your reputation with a Specific group or groups as a reliable contractor they can always issue private contracts to maintain secrecy.
"Dummy contracts" is also strategic is that the opposing force needs ensure they have PAID forces in all the areas where there are contracts... IF they fail to provide coverage BAM! launch your attack there.. you have "air support" and they DON'T.
I think something along those lines will make it much more fun and increase accessibility for all those who wish to be involved. That and you don't have to worry about being in FW so you don't have to risk getting shot at if if you don't feel like it on any given day.
Obviously there is some smoothing to be done here but this as a general idea, I think, is the way to go.
There are so many ways to make this game FUN but leave it to CCP to do things the Hard way... Welcome to EVE... Your OTHER full time job.
Cheers
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