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Ion Kirst KIRSTONE ALLIANCE 17	Posted - 2013.01.15 13:59:00 - [1] - Quote Thought this would be something new to try. I've done FW, pvp, missions, arcs, ganks, pirating, null sec, etc. (even mining) OK. I've read all the rules and requirements to actually do the orbital bombardments. I enlist my corp into FW again. Next day I grab a Cormy, and head to Marthia. Marthia wasn't that far away. There's about 80 mercs in local. I find that Marthia V is a temperate planet, so I head there. I saw that Marthia V has 11 districts that show up, and I warp to each one. No flashes of light on the surface, so I talk to the local Mercs. They said that they not in any corp battles, there the only ones there. One said he didn't know even when he would ever need a strike, and if he did it would be a long time. So, right now I've got a clone sitting there at Marthia, I'll check back once in a while on the dusters progress, and in the mean time I may head to another system. Disappointment--Welcome to EVE. (I really wasn't surprised.) Anyone else? -Kirst
Liner Xiandra Sparks Inc Zero Hour Alliance 131	Posted - 2013.01.15 14:22:00 - [2] - Quote Orbital bombardments happen in lowsec FW systems, and only during corp-vs-corp battles between Dust corps. Not on the temperate planets in a hisec system. Corp battles are arranged beforehand and have set dates when and where these battles will occur. Talk to a Dust corp director (they get to arrange corp battles) and maybe they'll share this information with you. Note that any dust or FW corp worth their salt will not disclose this information to randoms, as it is a combined effort that requires planning & is a security risk. It was available to try on the test server Singularity between Christmas and last week.

CCP FoxFour C C P C C P Alliance 1538	Posted - 2013.01.15 14:29:00 - [3] - Quote Liner Xiandra wrote: Orbital bombardments happen in lowsec FW systems, and only during corp-vs-corp battles between Dust corps. Not on the temperate planets in a hisec system. Corp battles are arranged beforehand and have set dates when and where these battles will occur. Talk to a Dust corp director (they get to arrange corp battles) and maybe they'll share this information with you. Note that any dust or FW corp worth their salt will not disclose this information to randoms, as it is a combined effort that requires planning & is a security risk. It was available to try on the test server Singularity between Christmas and last week. This man sums it up pretty well. Orbital bombardments are not something you can go around and just toss out. They are something that require organization and planning. Game Designer \| Team True Grit

silens vesica Corsair Cartel 349	Posted - 2013.01.15 14:55:00 - [4] - Quote There is a whole galaxy of pilots that want to troll-strafe a planet - any planet. I say let them... But give the planetary NPCs highly effective surface-to-space weapons. And lots of 'em. Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
Bienator II madmen of the skies 1425	Posted - 2013.01.15 15:41:00 - [5] - Quote whats missing (at a minimum) to make dust relevant for FW 1) clean UI to see what districts/planets are owned by whom (planet -> show info would be a start) 2) eve -> dust merc contracts (or similar mechanics like ihub ISK/lp pools) to communicate what systems are relevant 2) automatically solves the problem "where can i bombard?" otherwise i fear it will just be perceived as random parameter of the contesting mechanic. a eve-style bounty system https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=359105 You fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail to jump because you are cloaked
Ion Kirst KIRSTONE ALLIANCE 18	Posted - 2013.01.15 15:53:00 - [6] - Quote Liner Xiandra wrote: Orbital bombardments happen in lowsec FW systems, and only during corp-vs-corp battles between Dust corps. Not on the temperate planets in a hisec system. Corp battles are arranged beforehand and have set dates when and where these battles will occur. Talk to a Dust corp director (they get to arrange corp battles) and maybe they'll share this information with you. Note that any dust or FW corp worth their salt will not disclose this information to randoms, as it is a combined effort that requires planning & is a security risk. It was available to try on the test server Singularity between Christmas and last week. Thanks Liner. However, why does EVE list Marthia as one of the places that orbital bombardment can take place at? -Kirst
Eli Green The Arrow Project 420	Posted - 2013.01.15 15:55:00 - [7] - Quote Ion Kirst wrote: However, why does EVE list Marthia as one of the places that orbital bombardment can take place at? -Kirst This is actually one of the home systems for Dust mercs. Essentially were they are docked. wumbo
Feer Truelight 83	Posted - 2013.01.15 16:58:00 - [8] - Quote Came in to read potential misconception of orbital bombment. Left satisfied. Killed by Brothel: http://i.imgur.com/WyR1x.png BC skill changes coming this summer: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2442879#post2442879
Usagi Toshiro Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 28	Posted - 2013.01.15 17:01:00 - [9] - Quote DUST is still in Open Beta, to go live in a week or so. This will open the game beyond current EVE players who also have a PS3. Hopefully once it is live on the PSN, the number of mercs will increase and in a month or so the need for orbital strikes will be increases and more common. Obligatory "Bring the rain" comment goes here.
Prootje LazyBoyz Band of Recreational Flyers Intrepid Crossing 1	Posted - 2013.01.15 17:06:00 - [10] - Quote Usagi Toshiro wrote: DUST is still in Open Beta, to go live in a week or so. This will open the game beyond current EVE players who also have a PS3. Hopefully once it is live on the PSN, the number of mercs will increase and in a month or so the need for orbital strikes will be increases and more common. Obligatory "Bring the rain" comment goes here. small correction; it's still in Closed Beta, going into Open Beta on the 22nd

RomeStar Astra Research 112	Posted - 2013.01.15 17:16:00 - [11] - Quote Dust will be dead by this time next year and I will quote this post once it happens to prove it. Signatured removed, CCP Phantom
Wacktopia Noir. Black Legion. 419	Posted - 2013.01.15 17:21:00 - [12] - Quote CCP FoxFour wrote: Liner Xiandra wrote: Orbital bombardments happen in lowsec FW systems, and only during corp-vs-corp battles between Dust corps. Not on the temperate planets in a hisec system. Corp battles are arranged beforehand and have set dates when and where these battles will occur. Talk to a Dust corp director (they get to arrange corp battles) and maybe they'll share this information with you. Note that any dust or FW corp worth their salt will not disclose this information to randoms, as it is a combined effort that requires planning & is a security risk. It was available to try on the test server Singularity between Christmas and last week. This man sums it up pretty well. Orbital bombardments are not something you can go around and just toss out. They are something that require organization and planning. Sounds like a good system to me. The bottom line is that now I have one of those annoying signatures.
Felicity Love STARKRAFT 188	Posted - 2013.01.15 17:27:00 - [13] - Quote So, at some point in a future iteration of "Orbital Bombardment", may we hope that it will extend to allowing people to hit other people's Planetary Interaction on various planets by the use of war decs ? I applaud buffing Faction Warfare with Orbital Bombardment at this point, it's a good way to limit the application at this early point in it's development ... BUT... that seems very limiting in the long run.
oldbutfeelingyoung Perkone Caldari State 954	Posted - 2013.01.15 17:58:00 - [14] - Quote So DUST is a super HI-sec expansion in FW-lowsec,you have to have approval to shoot at planets. R.S.I2014
silens vesica Corsair Cartel 352	Posted - 2013.01.15 18:03:00 - [15] - Quote Felicity Love wrote: So, at some point in a future iteration of "Orbital Bombardment", may we hope that it will extend to allowing people to hit other people's Planetary Interaction on various planets by the use of war decs ? Would love to annihilate some legacy PI installations that are doing nothing - except blocking others' access to the resource. Not my personal sites, but for some of my corpies. Quote: I applaud buffing Faction Warfare with Orbital Bombardment at this point, it's a good way to limit the application at this early point in it's development ... BUT... that seems very limiting in the long run. Early days yet. Let Dust learn to stand before you demand it walk, let it walk before you demand it run. Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
oldbutfeelingyoung Perkone Caldari State 954	Posted - 2013.01.15 18:10:00 - [16] - Quote silens vesica wrote: Early days yet. Let Dust learn to stand before you demand it walk, let it walk before you demand it run. Good luck with that . The same thing was said about WIS ,at least we have a sofa to sit on. the only real interaction in the cell i hope there is a sofa anywhere on some High sec minded low sec FW planet R.S.I2014
Desert Ice78 Cobra Kai Dojo WHY so Seri0Us 199	Posted - 2013.01.15 18:10:00 - [17] - Quote CCP FoxFour wrote: Liner Xiandra wrote: Orbital bombardments happen in lowsec FW systems, and only during corp-vs-corp battles between Dust corps. Not on the temperate planets in a hisec system. Corp battles are arranged beforehand and have set dates when and where these battles will occur. Talk to a Dust corp director (they get to arrange corp battles) and maybe they'll share this information with you. Note that any dust or FW corp worth their salt will not disclose this information to randoms, as it is a combined effort that requires planning & is a security risk. It was available to try on the test server Singularity between Christmas and last week. This man sums it up pretty well. Orbital bombardments are not something you can go around and just toss out. They are something that require organization and planning. Awwwwww...you mean I don't get to sit in orbit and pulverize the planet below?!?!?!?! CCP FoxFour, you disappoint me. sad face I am a pod pilot: http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/DesertIce/POD.jpg CCP Zulu: Came expecting a discussion about computer monitors, left confused.
Thgil Goldcore Advenus Classem 495	Posted - 2013.01.15 18:13:00 - [18] - Quote RomeStar wrote: Dust will be dead by this time next year and I will quote this post once it happens to prove it. Glad you take delight in the prospect watching peoples jobs vanish and many millions of dollars go down the drain. If a game like dust where to fail that's exactly what will happen. I don't think CCP bet the farm on it, but it would mean for some lean years if it does flop. I hope that dust does very well. It can only mean good things for eve and beyond.
Unsuccessful At Everything The Troll Bridge 1547	Posted - 2013.01.15 18:16:00 - [19] - Quote DUST would be more interesting if you had 5 Capsuleers in orbit of every planet randomly bombarding the surface for no apparent reason.... *Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?*
silens vesica Corsair Cartel 352	Posted - 2013.01.15 18:24:00 - [20] - Quote oldbutfeelingyoung wrote: silens vesica wrote: Early days yet. Let Dust learn to stand before you demand it walk, let it walk before you demand it run. Good luck with that . The same thing was said about WIS ,at least we have a sofa to sit on. the only real interaction in the cell i hope there is a sofa anywhere on some High sec minded low sec FW planet The sofa is still a sofa, and a pointless one at that - I can't even take a nap on it. I'm not a console or FPS player, but at the very least Dust has actual live bodies playing, albeit very few. We'll see - I'm willing to give it the benefit of the doubt for now. Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.

oldbutfeelingyoung Perkone Caldari State 955	Posted - 2013.01.15 18:32:00 - [21] - Quote silens vesica wrote: oldbutfeelingyoung wrote: silens vesica wrote: Early days yet. Let Dust learn to stand before you demand it walk, let it walk before you demand it run. Good luck with that . The same thing was said about WIS ,at least we have a sofa to sit on. the only real interaction in the cell i hope there is a sofa anywhere on some High sec minded low sec FW planet The sofa is still a sofa, and a pointless one at that - I can't even take a nap on it. I'm not a console or FPS player, but at the very least Dust has actual live bodies playing, albeit very few. We'll see - I'm willing to give it the benefit of the doubt for now. Well those live bodies should be in both games not only in DUSTcrap CCP want interaction ,then give interaction and not a cross hair on a planet only for EvE R.S.I2014
Ion Kirst KIRSTONE ALLIANCE 21	Posted - 2013.01.15 18:42:00 - [22] - Quote Here's the link for "Orbital Bombardment Mechanics": http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/EVE-DUST_514_Link_FAQ I believe I followed every step. If there's more to it, then maybe it should say so. It doesn't differentiate which systems can only have battles. If the mercs at Marthia will never be able to participate then Marthia should be removed. It is misleading. -Kirst
Jenn aSide Smokin Aces. 1141	Posted - 2013.01.15 18:57:00 - [23] - Quote CCP, could you PLEASE put EVE NPCs in DUST and give them Tanks (like a Dread Guristas M1A1) and such and let us shoot them from orbit for bounties. You guys at ccp always say you want NPCs to act more like real players, what's more real EVE player-like than some Serpentis saying "screw spaceships, ima go play Tanks for a while"? But this way those us still in space ships can shoot them!
MailDeadDrop Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities 147	Posted - 2013.01.15 18:59:00 - [24] - Quote Felicity Love wrote: So, at some point in a future iteration of "Orbital Bombardment", Bahahahah! You must be new around here. "future iteration" doesn't happen in Eve. The CCP way is to produce some new shiney video, pre-nerf the implementation to point of absurdity, release it, then NEVER come back to it. Ever. MDD
Felicity Love STARKRAFT 188	Posted - 2013.01.15 19:00:00 - [25] - Quote silens vesica wrote: Early days yet. Let Dust learn to stand before you demand it walk, let it walk before you demand it run. Dude, I appreciate the new-car smell this whole "DUST" experiment oozes... really, I do. But I'm an EVE player... ultimately, I don't give a rats ass about DUST. I'm happy that FW is being used for DUST to take it's "baby steps". Fair enough, it had to happen somewhere. At least the FW guys are getting some mileage out of it. BUT... the sooner that great features like "Orbital Bombardment" have more autonomy from DUST, then the better. Carry on, crack a cold brew, and drop those nukes !
Liner Xiandra Sparks Inc Zero Hour Alliance 142	Posted - 2013.01.15 20:37:00 - [26] - Quote Ion Kirst wrote: Here's the link for "Orbital Bombardment Mechanics": http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/EVE-DUST_514_Link_FAQ I believe I followed every step. If there's more to it, then maybe it should say so. It doesn't differentiate which systems can only have battles. If the mercs at Marthia will never be able to participate then Marthia should be removed. It is misleading. -Kirst I'll grant you that the Dust-EVE Link FAQ doesn't communicate very well what Dust does to EVE and how it all boils down; and I do hope they'll get down to writing a better version before the open beta hits. Even the fact that there is a FAQ isn't communicated properly. - Nullarbors Devblog "Dust 514 enters the EVE universe" doesn't mention it - First page on the comments of said devblog doesn't mention it. - EVE Forums-Dust 514 board doesn't have it stickied to the top - EVE Forums-General Discussion doesn't have it stickied to the top. Maybe CCP/ISD can help out here.
Wacktopia Noir. Black Legion. 419	Posted - 2013.01.15 20:50:00 - [27] - Quote Felicity Love wrote: So, at some point in a future iteration of "Orbital Bombardment", may we hope that it will extend to allowing people to hit other people's Planetary Interaction on various planets by the use of war decs ? I applaud buffing Faction Warfare with Orbital Bombardment at this point, it's a good way to limit the application at this early point in it's development ... BUT... that seems very limiting in the long run. True. I'm sure they'll expand on it. Just if they start small and work up it reduces the risk that the existing and strong EVE player base decimates Dust before it gets wings. The bottom line is that now I have one of those annoying signatures.
Natsett Amuinn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 1476	Posted - 2013.01.15 20:55:00 - [28] - Quote Felicity Love wrote: So, at some point in a future iteration of "Orbital Bombardment", may we hope that it will extend to allowing people to hit other people's Planetary Interaction on various planets by the use of war decs ? I applaud buffing Faction Warfare with Orbital Bombardment at this point, it's a good way to limit the application at this early point in it's development ... BUT... that seems very limiting in the long run. There is currently no connection between dust and null sec. They've openly said they haven't actually got that far yet. I think the null stuff is to come after Dust goes live. In the meantime they're focusing on FW as the primary connection, as it's the more "structured" PvP content of EVE. I expect that, eventually, you'll be able to use orbital strikes against corporate war targets, and districts will have a significant meaning as it pertains to null; which is were I think those corpoarte war targets will be confined too. I think that high sec will end up structured in the same way the FW is. Corps will have to schedule things in high sec first. I expect null to be the place were things open up and become more "free". Total speculation in case anyone couldn't figure it out.
ZionShad 51	Posted - 2013.01.15 20:57:00 - [29] - Quote We will be looking for a lot of OB support this Sat in Gallente /Caldari FW at 11am PST. Please join "Dust OB" chat in game and will give you the planet, districts and times of battles Zion TCD CEO ( ZionTCD.enjin.com ) Co-Host "Podside" Podcast on iTunes DUST 514 Beta Tester -á
RomeStar Astra Research 116	Posted - 2013.01.15 21:37:00 - [30] - Quote The only Orbital Bombardment I will see is when I sit on the toilet which is where Dust belongs right next to WIS. Signatured removed, CCP Phantom



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