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Ivilb Itch
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Posted - 2005.06.27 21:10:00 -
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Well, I must say that the quality of the Smash and SE diplomatic establishments is impressive.
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BOldMan
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Posted - 2005.06.27 21:35:00 -
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 Originally by: General Killah
I admit our campaign started as just a need to disrupt Stain as we have done for almost a year, however we grew attached to the region and as I said in the original post, it became our home. So in order to make it truely a home, we contacted Stain.
For me that sound like: I destroy your home for a year, now I contact you to let me to leave here in peace. Irony?
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willows
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Posted - 2005.06.27 21:58:00 -
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tbh i think it would be more along the lines of:
smash is smaller than se and alot poorer on a member to member base.
smash is and has been operating mainly snipers (megas), they also run wcs setups or ganks setups.
SE maybe fat slow and a ripe target but often can force smash into situations when they have to log to get out alive.
That ends with the 30min timer.
Smash has a abnormal amount of sniper/megas with at adverage 140km range.
100km warp in lets SE get into range with gank/tank and ecm setups.
on a player to player basis SE has more, richer and higher skilled players.
Chance's are SE would get a dread before smash. and a dread can take 8-12 bs solo.as well as obliterate structures and jumpdrive past blockades.
bad for smash if se has 1 and they are pinned in 2-3 stations and 1 region.
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Hurpe petra
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Posted - 2005.06.27 22:04:00 -
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Edited by: Hurpe petra on 27/06/2005 22:04:22
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General Killah
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Posted - 2005.06.27 22:06:00 -
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Edited by: General Killah on 27/06/2005 22:12:30
1. Thank you Mr. Alt for your wonderful analysis.
2. Ask the Stain who've died at 5km to us.
3. You have never faught us obviously.
4. SMASH and SE both want peace
5. We were doing good on not flaming or saying who was better until you came along, if you're gonna post crap like that at least use your main.
6. Shoo as you know nothing.
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Hyllekjeks
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Posted - 2005.06.27 22:06:00 -
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Edited by: Hyllekjeks on 27/06/2005 22:07:13
Originally by: Zandramus
you guys been shooting each other for quite some time now, my question is now why stop. Frankly if you do come to some arraingment, then who are you going to shoot?
as I have always stated one of the big problems with this game is due to political meandering, there are either never enough targets, or way too many targets to deal with.
The latter usually doesnt last too long but the former seems to last too long to bear at times.
Now I have fought Rome and smite guys and they seem decent at PVP, Stain guys when I was there didnt want to pvp, it was an effort to get them to undock and help. Frankly in the climate that the game is in now 3 regions is an awefully large amounf of area to try and control effectivly.
this was a big part of the problem when I was there in that their guys that would pvp wanted to stay around the chokepoints rather than travel deep into Stain to actually help defend Stain space.
I would think that Stain should concentrate its efforts on 1 region, which one makes no difference but with NWO coming up if you think you are gonna control all 3 regions then I think you may have some suprises coming.
As for SMASH, why would you guys want peace, you have pvp with large numbers of people at will. I would expect if you actually do NAP Stain, you will find yourselves bored at the lack of action.
Just some thoughts on the situation
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joefishy
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Posted - 2005.06.27 22:19:00 -
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personally we should **** politics and attack each other :) w00t
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willows
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Posted - 2005.06.27 22:20:00 -
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1. congrats u can recognise a alt, why use a alt?
because your alliance is vindictive.
coming from a stain member character it sounds like just another counter claim.
2. im sure some have but it goes against your main aproach to pvp in fleets atleast.
3. Obviously the alt has worked :).
4. some do yes, but both have PVP that never would accept it. more in SE cus theres more SE than smash and some just have bad blood they don't trust you and after that emperor/gm incident i don't blame em.
5.Your entire post was a peice of propaganda and flame.
trying to blame failed peace on SE after you invade their space, hunt their miners and industry people and try to lower the public veiw of SE with this type of post.
6. Best thing you can say? whats rong my last post hit a nerve?
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General Killah
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Posted - 2005.06.27 22:41:00 -
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Jane Bunny
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Posted - 2005.06.27 22:51:00 -
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Edited by: Jane Bunny on 27/06/2005 22:51:34
Hey guys, remember when SE chased a ROME guy into the station in DSS. Then they did what any respecting army would do and laid siege just like ROME does. How did that turn out? Oh yeah, the ROME guy got a GM to move the hostils out of system for grief play 
PS Boobs
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Novah
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Posted - 2005.06.27 22:59:00 -
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Willows,
I dont know who your main is but please use the "close mouth feature" that god gave us all. I recognise that your pro stain.....and i thank you........ but spamming this thread isnt making thing any easier for both parties....
Thanks
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Emperor
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Posted - 2005.06.27 23:47:00 -
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Edited by: Emperor on 27/06/2005 23:47:49
Originally by: Jane Bunny
Edited by: Jane Bunny on 27/06/2005 22:51:34
Hey guys, remember when SE chased a ROME guy into the station in DSS. Then they did what any respecting army would do and laid siege just like ROME does. How did that turn out? Oh yeah, the ROME guy got a GM to move the hostils out of system for grief play
PS Boobs
plz get your facts right. 1st of all it wasnt DSS, it was 4GQ. 2nd they didnt "chase us" in there they used there agents to see where we had logged for the night and set up a medium bubble out side so we got instantly warp jammed when we undocked. 3rd they took shifts camping us with no less than 15 people at any given time after 72 hours i filed a stuck petition and was moved, then around 300 SE members (only about 20 were actualy there) filed petitoins saying how i need to be moved back... so GM SWOOSH moved me back. the end. that was about 5 months ago, i think its time you get over it |
Rutoo
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Posted - 2005.06.27 23:59:00 -
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2 minutes until Tea Party, whos coming?
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willows
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Posted - 2005.06.28 00:11:00 -
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Actualy i am not pro stain.
I can call up a number of stain incidents that are just as bad as some of smash's,
I just really can't stick propaganda.
If you would like a taste how about the SE atack on Fix that lightdarkness and other ex-SE ceo insigated because they was bored after CA fell apart.
Or more on the current subject, How a SE ceo and corp who walked out on the alliance when the fix war went bad and the enemy's gathered.
That then decides they want back in because SE has lasted against their beleif's and the CEO decides to become self proclaimed emperor by pulling strings in secret.
Smash may spread lies and half truths but never have i seen such a back stabbing bunch as the SE ceo's.
Does smash have the right to moan about being backstabbed? NO.
Should smash have known better than to trust certain SE ceo's? YES.
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FalloutBoy
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Posted - 2005.06.28 00:41:00 -
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Originally by: willows
Edited by: willows on 28/06/2005 00:15:11
Or more on the current subject, How a SE ceo and corp who walked out on the alliance when the fix war went bad and the enemy's gathered.
That then decides they want back in because SE has lasted against their beleif's and the CEO decides to become self proclaimed emperor by pulling strings in secret.
umm ok? all i'm going to say is you have no idea what your talking about
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Novah
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Posted - 2005.06.28 00:52:00 -
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Originally by: willows
Edited by: willows on 28/06/2005 00:15:11
Actualy i am not pro stain.
I can call up a number of stain incidents that are just as bad as some of smash's,
I just really can't stick propaganda.
If you would like a taste how about the SE atack on Fix that lightdarkness and other ex-SE ceo insigated because they was bored after CA fell apart.
Or more on the current subject, How a SE ceo and corp who walked out on the alliance when the fix war went bad and the enemy's gathered.
That then decides they want back in because SE has lasted against their beleif's and the CEO decides to become self proclaimed emperor by pulling strings in secret.
Smash may spread lies and half truths but never have i seen such a back stabbing bunch as the SE ceo's.
Does smash have the right to moan about being backstabbed? NO.
Should smash have known better than to trust certain SE ceo's? YES.
Will SE try to dismiss my claims about it's command? YES.
Willows,
You really need to refrain from typing anything for like the next 6 months. You have no clue at all what you are talking about. You are not part of the discussion and thus whatever you have to say means.......urm........ NOTHING!
Please find another post to troll in please and let the people that want to patch our differences do just that.
Thanks and ill speak to you in 6 months.
novah
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Threx
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Posted - 2005.06.28 01:00:00 -
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Edited by: Threx on 28/06/2005 01:01:38
Originally by: willows
Edited by: willows on 27/06/2005 22:09:57
tbh i think it would be more along the lines of:
smash is smaller than se and alot poorer on a member to member base.
smash is and has been operating mainly snipers (megas), they also run wcs setups or ganks setups.
SE maybe fat slow and a ripe target but often can force smash into situations when they have to log to get out alive.
That ends with the 30min timer.
Smash has a abnormal amount of sniper/megas with at adverage 140km range.
100km warp in lets SE get into range with gank/tank and ecm setups.
on a player to player basis SE has more, richer and higher skilled players.
Chance's are SE would get a dread before smash. and a dread can take 8-12 bs solo.as well as obliterate structures and jumpdrive past blockades.
bad for smash if se has 1 and they are pinned in 2-3 stations and 1 region.
AND then they see it coming.
they reach out and SE does exactly what they would do in the same situation.
Then in true smash style they come running to the forums shouting how SE back stabbed them once again trying to lower public opinion of se.
This is the sad truth of a alliance thatpreys on miners, rat hunters and that has run from every battle they have been matched in.
A perfect example being when emperor said SE was harrassing him due to him being camped in a npc station for 3 days solid.
they moved him and then he got moved back when gm's found out he had lied to them and that he had brought the camp on himself.
as far as ive seen every fleet fights at sniper ranges now and get some research in because pvp timer as far as i know refers to logging out while getting shot at so it wont hurt us at all, but it may hurt a few pilots ive met around the stain region namely that imperial apoc I caught in 4gq and had it log out on me twice 'cheers to mass'
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Aturayd
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Posted - 2005.06.28 01:24:00 -
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Ill have a Large #2 with root beer, a McFlurry M&M, and some hot apple pie.
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General Killah
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Posted - 2005.06.28 01:59:00 -
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Great tea party here in 4gq guys, lots of....uhm....tea...to go around.
On the subject, none of what I wrote was propaganda as anyone in SE leadership can confirm, did I try to make it seem SMASH more the victim, perhaps so, but none of the facts are wrong.
On another topic, a GM can lock this thread at any time, it's turning into flamebait.
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shivan
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Posted - 2005.06.28 02:06:00 -
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Originally by: FalloutBoy
Originally by: willows
Edited by: willows on 28/06/2005 00:15:11
Or more on the current subject, How a SE ceo and corp who walked out on the alliance when the fix war went bad and the enemy's gathered.
That then decides they want back in because SE has lasted against their beleif's and the CEO decides to become self proclaimed emperor by pulling strings in secret.
umm ok? all i'm going to say is you have no idea what your talking about
aggreed.
TBH no-one who isnt in the south knows what really happened.
In fact, i doubt half of stain REALLY know what happened polticaly about this.
As for your guess, keep guessing, I very highly doubt you will guess the correct answer.
With regards to the orignal poster.
Why?
Why did you even make this post, and what was the point in it?
From what I can tell, all your trying to do is a weak and febble attempt at trying to embarris SE without knowing the full facts yourself. Or maybe you do, but your twisting it so hard that your facts look like a corkscrew to the real facts as they have been twisted so much.
Man I've heard of spin, but this is unbeleavble. Does your dad work in either of the US or UK goverments cuz from what I can tell, you have taken a master class of spin.
As for the rest of Smash, and espeicllay the leaders Ive spoken with briefly, Emp and toohot, you know the real deal of whats happened. Would it be at all possible to please keep your members in line before they make any more ill informed posts.
Thanx
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willows
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Posted - 2005.06.28 02:07:00 -
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Novah all you have done is tell me to shut up.
You have not given any proof to me being incorrect.
Was and are you even in the SE command channels?
I know chatlogs dating back to then exist so why not dig them up and prove me rong about SE commands atack on fix or its continual internal arguments at that time.
And well you are at proving me rong and not just telling me i am the chat logs for the night the new emperor was proclaimed and the logs from the discussion over species being alowed back in.
And i mean full un-modified logs.
And as for the claim smash won't get hurt by the new timer, unless they kill SE without opening fire or getting fired on i find it hard to beleive that you wont get hurt as bad if not worse than se would.
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General Killah
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Posted - 2005.06.28 02:16:00 -
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Edited by: General Killah on 28/06/2005 02:17:53
1. Willows please go read the post about how the timer works.
2. Shivan, my parents never worked for the government, the fact that you think I spun this incredibly shows you obviously aren't "in the loop" of things.
3. This post is turning into pure flames, that was not the point. It was a post of my opinions and the facts that existed.
4. This thread needs a lock.
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Pradege D'Hallur
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Posted - 2005.06.28 02:58:00 -
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AMEN TO THAT.....LOCK PLEASE
When we die God's job is to judge us..........My job is to arrange that meeting
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Novah
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Posted - 2005.06.28 07:40:00 -
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yup prad,
Ill 2nd that one.
Willows, Yes ive been in the loop with SE affairs for coming up on 2 years now.
Nuff said please lock thread
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Bad'Boy
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Posted - 2005.06.28 07:55:00 -
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you guys sux, both SMAsh and SE
MAXSuicide > I LOVE U SIIM
MAXSuicide > lets go outback for a quicky
siim > that was so desperate attempt
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Bad'Boy
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Posted - 2005.06.28 07:56:00 -
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you guys sux, both SMAsh and SE, IMO
MAXSuicide > I LOVE U SIIM
MAXSuicide > lets go outback for a quicky
siim > that was so desperate attempt
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joefishy
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Posted - 2005.06.28 10:20:00 -
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may be a group w00t is needed for both sides... i suggest shouting out woot as lauod as you can and your feel much better
WOOOOOOOOOOOT
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Liet Traep
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Posted - 2005.06.28 11:10:00 -
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Um about Omist. I thought that was controlled by the Coalition. Did the entire coalition rejoin Stain? If so then they originally left stain, conquered one of xetic's regions and then rejoined the fold?
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Zandramus
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Posted - 2005.06.28 11:23:00 -
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Originally by: Hyllekjeks
Edited by: Hyllekjeks on 27/06/2005 22:07:13
Originally by: Zandramus
you guys been shooting each other for quite some time now, my question is now why stop. Frankly if you do come to some arraingment, then who are you going to shoot?
as I have always stated one of the big problems with this game is due to political meandering, there are either never enough targets, or way too many targets to deal with.
The latter usually doesnt last too long but the former seems to last too long to bear at times.
Now I have fought Rome and smite guys and they seem decent at PVP, Stain guys when I was there didnt want to pvp, it was an effort to get them to undock and help. Frankly in the climate that the game is in now 3 regions is an awefully large amounf of area to try and control effectivly.
this was a big part of the problem when I was there in that their guys that would pvp wanted to stay around the chokepoints rather than travel deep into Stain to actually help defend Stain space.
I would think that Stain should concentrate its efforts on 1 region, which one makes no difference but with NWO coming up if you think you are gonna control all 3 regions then I think you may have some suprises coming.
As for SMASH, why would you guys want peace, you have pvp with large numbers of people at will. I would expect if you actually do NAP Stain, you will find yourselves bored at the lack of action.
Just some thoughts on the situation
You might be next...
Good that would mean more targets...
Zandramus
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Soul Redemption
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Posted - 2005.06.28 12:06:00 -
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Edited by: Soul Redemption on 28/06/2005 12:10:29
K ppl post for ya all us in smash tend 2 share info so our members know everything now let me make this clear im a director and i know al lthe info back and forth up and down and your ALL WRONG and VERY BORING and EXTREMLY STUPID :P boofer is some what close 2 revealing alot of the truth and so is emp but your all so wrong and your BORING ME OUT OF MAH MIND!!! i like Orc A he kicks ass and i like Abriana overlord cuz hes uber!!! the rest of you just cant shut up :P will your ummm well your something but you do not have the forsight ability lol and zander I REMEMBER YOU!!! :D i fought you in your raven :P as i remember you ran out as your cap died out 5k from my apoc lol no smack talk but who you calling decent?!! lol i wuv you all now stfu your all so WERY WERY BORING! i mean like PLZ you all taking guessing games here ? and flaming post games? <-----laughs loudly
im sorry but if this posting crap goes on with none of the sides telling the full truth (stain needs to tell more truth than smash) :D than well stfu and go away! this is becoming mind numbing!!! im feeling my left hemosphere falling asleep LOL at willow (as i know who his main is) stfu :P you such a spam head man novah im sorry but be quiet plz k lol i mean if ppl wanna comment let tham comment its not the soviet union... so dont act like a ****tator (did i spell that right?) lol love love and boofer well i wuv you and all but you got a big mouth and no arms 2 excute what your brain thinks and your mouth says :P(powerless dude in stain) as for the GM incident with emp DEAR GOD it was so AMAZINGLY long time ago i can give you helf a dozen incidents where stain did far worse but i wont cuz this isnt a flame post so plz go away lmao!!!!
oh the edit is for
JOEFISHY PWNZZZZEERRRRRRR UBER DUDE!
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