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General Killah	Posted - 2005.06.27 05:56:00 - [1] ((OOC)):This is in no way is a press release from my alliance or corporation, it is simply me expressing my opinions and showing an account of events. Good evening ladies and gentlemen, I am known as General Killah of the Rome corporation. For just over a month, SMASH Alliance has faught and slowly pushed the forces of Stain in Paragon Soul. Although it hadn't been our intention, we became attached to this land we bled and died for, and came to call it home. As a new leader came into power among the Stain Empire, and a infusion of corps as well, SMASH prepared to fight for their homeland. However, we were tired of the endless war. Although we have been in Paragon for only a month, our war with Stain has existed for over a year. Contact was made with the leaders of Stain to find a solution satisfactory to both sides. SMASH purposed an offer Stain could not pass it seemed, and for a while, it seemed as if the war was over. During this time a ceasefire was called and people began to pass each other without shooting. For the first time in a year, the regions under Stain Empire control saw an end to the slaughter of Rome and it's allies. But things could never last, as Stain made a counter-offer which seemed to be better, no one noticed the slow stream of Stain indies and other ships into the Paragon region. The counter-offer lasted only one night and negotiations continued. Finally Stain made a last offer, one completely unreasonable. By this time Stain was becoming more arrogant. When asked about the original offer, which Stain had said to be quite a good deal, it was completely out of the question. We had been run in a circle for days, only to let the Stain forces regroup and restock. SMASH Alliance once again found themselves facing a war. As SMASH's war machine began to grind once again, it put several pilots to relief. We are not politicians and as such care little for the affairs of others in such matters. We are but simple fighters, trained in the arts of war and bred through our own fights as well as the old Curse Empire. I admit there may be things I missed because I am not a leader of Stain. So I wish to issue a warning to the Stain Empire. We offered our friendship, and an opprotunity to fight others who might threaten you. A chance to get rid of your problems forever, but you were not willing to deal honestly. My warning is this: The moment the ceasefire ends, tomorrow, Our vengeance will not stop. We will hunt your miners and bounty hunters as well as your fighters. We will kill your women, children, and everything you own will become ours. You have chosen to be our enemy, so enemy you will become. As to all the Stain with honor, I know there are many of you, I salute you. I await our engagements eagerly. --------------------------------- (\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world domination.
Shittake	Posted - 2005.06.27 08:01:00 - [2] Originally by: General Killah ((OOC)):This is in no way is a press release from my alliance or corporation, it is simply me expressing my opinions and showing an account of events. Good evening ladies and gentlemen, I am known as General Killah of the Rome corporation. For just over a month, SMASH Alliance has faught and slowly pushed the forces of Stain in Paragon Soul. Although it hadn't been our intention, we became attached to this land we bled and died for, and came to call it home. As a new leader came into power among the Stain Empire, and a infusion of corps as well, SMASH prepared to fight for their homeland. However, we were tired of the endless war. Although we have been in Paragon for only a month, our war with Stain has existed for over a year. Contact was made with the leaders of Stain to find a solution satisfactory to both sides. SMASH purposed an offer Stain could not pass it seemed, and for a while, it seemed as if the war was over. During this time a ceasefire was called and people began to pass each other without shooting. For the first time in a year, the regions under Stain Empire control saw an end to the slaughter of Rome and it's allies. But things could never last, as Stain made a counter-offer which seemed to be better, no one noticed the slow stream of Stain indies and other ships into the Paragon region. The counter-offer lasted only one night and negotiations continued. Finally Stain made a last offer, one completely unreasonable. By this time Stain was becoming more arrogant. When asked about the original offer, which Stain had said to be quite a good deal, it was completely out of the question. We had been run in a circle for days, only to let the Stain forces regroup and restock. SMASH Alliance once again found themselves facing a war. As SMASH's war machine began to grind once again, it put several pilots to relief. We are not politicians and as such care little for the affairs of others in such matters. We are but simple fighters, trained in the arts of war and bred through our own fights as well as the old Curse Empire. I admit there may be things I missed because I am not a leader of Stain. So I wish to issue a warning to the Stain Empire. We offered our friendship, and an opprotunity to fight others who might threaten you. A chance to get rid of your problems forever, but you were not willing to deal honestly. My warning is this: The moment the ceasefire ends, tomorrow, Our vengeance will not stop. We will hunt your miners and bounty hunters as well as your fighters. We will kill your women, children, and everything you own will become ours. You have chosen to be our enemy, so enemy you will become. As to all the Stain with honor, I know there are many of you, I salute you. I await our engagements eagerly. I think the items I highlighted in your original post say it all. You need an experienced diplomat to deal with things so you and your fighters can just go kill stuff.
Soul Redemption	Posted - 2005.06.27 08:43:00 - [3] lol expirenced diplomat? plz do me a fav and be quiet there is no expirenced DIPLOMAT in this game sides the point no 1 here ever was a diplomat or is at the moment but everyone in this game or a great deal of ppl are infulanced by ego and greed
Destroyer Draxx	Posted - 2005.06.27 09:45:00 - [4] Quote: But things could never last, as Stain made a counter-offer which seemed to be better, no one noticed the slow stream of Stain indies and other ships into the Paragon region. The counter-offer lasted only one night and negotiations continued. Finally Stain made a last offer, one completely unreasonable. By this time Stain was becoming more arrogant. When asked about the original offer, which Stain had said to be quite a good deal, it was completely out of the question. I dont know what went on, but from what i read in here seems u turned out 2 stain offer in order to get a better one, but it didnt work out as you planned. Correct me if Im wrong. So Far So Good....So What
Soul Redemption	Posted - 2005.06.27 09:53:00 - [5] your wrong lol the offer changed slightly as to accomodate both sides but stain did a double move on us 2 explain it all would be 2 long and i im afraid IS way way 2 lazy :D
Emperor	Posted - 2005.06.27 11:49:00 - [6] Originally by: Destroyer Draxx Quote: But things could never last, as Stain made a counter-offer which seemed to be better, no one noticed the slow stream of Stain indies and other ships into the Paragon region. The counter-offer lasted only one night and negotiations continued. Finally Stain made a last offer, one completely unreasonable. By this time Stain was becoming more arrogant. When asked about the original offer, which Stain had said to be quite a good deal, it was completely out of the question. I dont know what went on, but from what i read in here seems u turned out 2 stain offer in order to get a better one, but it didnt work out as you planned. Correct me if Im wrong. what actualy happened was we asked stain for the GQ2S station along with a branch of SE space that we had intrest in putting POS's in. They came back the next day and told us it was not possible but that if we gave up all of Paragon they would give us Period Basis. Apparently they forgot to check with BOB first so we re-took GQ2 and have been in a cease fire ever since. SE then offered us 2 of the stations in the Omist regoin. This does is no good as we would have to fly though Ascendant Frontier space and would be in a very bad spot to defend ourselves if Ascendant or the 5 attacked us. so we turned it down. So the cease fire right now is just temporary till the war starts up again
fairimear	Posted - 2005.06.27 12:44:00 - [7] if it was upto me i would let u have gq2 on the condition se have docking and travel rights. but thats just me. (\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world Domination.
Soul Redemption	Posted - 2005.06.27 13:38:00 - [8] lol we offerd it and stain did take it :D time 2 beat some more sense into stain heads!
ricko mortis	Posted - 2005.06.27 13:43:00 - [9] Wheels within wheels House lanister err I mean SE for the win
Orc A	Posted - 2005.06.27 14:20:00 - [10] Edited by: Orc A on 27/06/2005 14:22:17 Oh dear Lord. Personally, I woulnd't mind seeing You guys have period Basis. But Paragon? Stain, Estoria And Paragon Soul Are SE space, and will remain SE space. I would eat my hat before I see someone that is not Stain and not KOS that lives in one of the 3 regions. If Smash Really wanted a ceasefire and the Period Basis arrangement, i think they would wait a while for Bob to come around with the station thing, instead of blowing the thing up and starting a big Drama about how SE backstrabbed them. Moving indy's into paragon? damn right, after the region has been in war for so long, people thought they might be able to go back to living there in peace, so ofcourse, supplies were moved. I wouldn't be surprisded if those indies contained miner eqipment or were empty, just to serve in the future. There are very few in the SMASH alliance whom i respect, and those that i do, well, i expected more from them in this whole chapter of the story. To conclude: See you on the Field :) edit: typos -Orky
Leno	Posted - 2005.06.27 14:28:00 - [11] Originally by: Orc A Edited by: Orc A on 27/06/2005 14:22:17 Oh dear Lord. Personally, I woulnd't mind seeing You guys have period Basis. But Paragon? Stain, Estoria And Paragon Soul Are SE space, and will remain SE space. I would eat my hat before I see someone that is not Stain and not KOS that lives in one of the 3 regions. If Smash Really wanted a ceasefire and the Period Basis arrangement, i think they would wait a while for Bob to come around with the station thing, instead of blowing the thing up and starting a big Drama about how SE backstrabbed them. Moving indy's into paragon? damn right, after the region has been in war for so long, people thought they might be able to go back to living there in peace, so ofcourse, supplies were moved. I wouldn't be surprisded if those indies contained miner eqipment or were empty, just to serve in the future. There are very few in the SMASH alliance whom i respect, and those that i do, well, i expected more from them in this whole chapter of the story. To conclude: See you on the Field :) edit: typos So let me get this strait... You offered to let them live where they have been living? How kind of you... --------------- RIP - Smoske, My Friend Coasterbrian > babies are good, especially raw Coasterbrian > soft and crunchy at the same time
Hyllekjeks	Posted - 2005.06.27 15:22:00 - [12] Just another excample how cowardly stain is to get their space, when gunns dont work they make agreements and brake them. Where is the honor?
lythos miralbar	Posted - 2005.06.27 16:13:00 - [13] Edited by: lythos miralbar on 27/06/2005 16:16:07 Ok lets get one thing straight boys and girls. Smash alliance have never managed to 'live' anywhere.. They have been roaming around basisng themselves from numerous stations in various regions and as soon as they were pinned down they moved on. Now fair play to them, it takes skill to do what they have been doing, but please do not try and overstate your case. As the numbers of people in SE started growing, and it became clear they would never break the alliance they moved further and further south. Eventualy they were pushed/wanted to go (whatever) further south into paragon soul. Fighting moved further towards period basis and eventualy into mainly gq2 and h8. After several weeks of the stations swapping hands many times Smash decided to set up a pos in gq2. From this they could base themselves in gq2 without need for the station and take and retake the station as much as they liked. Even with this in place SE was not prepared to give up its terretory ... ever. I do not know the details but a deal was put together that both sides were happy with which unfortunately fell through at the last minute. Thats it, thats all there is to say. Both sides have fought hard and no doubt will continue fighting. Maybe an end will be reached one day, but i dont know and i dont really care.. you guys are fun
Peoke	Posted - 2005.06.27 16:19:00 - [14] Well just to point out to the ill informed stain populas. Smash did not move out of 4gq because we were pinned down, we moved to find people willing to defend their space. that is the reason we moved down. You can believe what u want but the fact of the matter stain has superior numbers and still always stayed docked. so what did u think we would do sit outside the npc stations or go and capture ur stations. we held 2 stations for 2 weeks and mp5 for 1 week when the new stain leadership came to us for a nap and end to hostilities. if we controled the region why would we want a end to the war.
Hyllekjeks	Posted - 2005.06.27 16:28:00 - [15] Edited by: Hyllekjeks on 27/06/2005 16:31:47 We moved to ps to get a fight not because we were chased. You guys seems to hide when there isnt a big blob, so we had to take something from you to force stain to fight. After some time stain didnt even fight back in ps. The last time I saw a big blob there was after we agreed for the "nap" then many people suddenly came. Until then we were popping bs and the 15bs fleet ran to ss, with 4 of us flying around. I must say, not everyone in stain is like this. Many actually fight with even numbers, sometimes we even outnumber them. But generally its the other way.
Novah	Posted - 2005.06.27 16:29:00 - [16] Edited by: Novah on 27/06/2005 16:30:56 Smash members.....Please refer to this post as a SE reference to the initial post. Is there really any need to bring this onto the forums. My only guess is that your trying to prove something here and make SE look to the the guilty party. Emperor stated the facts as to what terrotories were offered and he stands correct on the issue of Period Basis. Omist was offered and in truth there is nothing wrong with teh area offered. Smash stated that they wanted stations, SE has offered them stations. The only people with a problem with the offer is Smash. You cannot really call Period basis "home". It is more of a temporary place to live during your campaign. Your campaign if i stand correct was to cause disruption within the boarders of stain. . At that point in time as shown in the video i made Period basis was unclaimed. Smash then moved south to attack Paragon Soul residents. SE's friends claimed the 2 stations in period basis. It was at this point in time that Smash wanted to claim ownership of paragon soul. After some boring station ping pong and some politics SE came up with an offer. Unfortunatly the initial offer couldnt go through for various reasons. At this point SE didnt come back to you saying "tough you dont have anything". No we came back with another offer of territory for you. And here we are now . . . . SE has tried to accomadate Smash as best possible. In truth SE offering you something is better than nothing at all. I suggest thinking about it and looking through the pro's and cons on a realistic level. Kind Regards, Novah (SEI) ********************************************************* Intersteller eXodus - Making Stain A Happier Place To Raise Your Family.
Halseth Durn	Posted - 2005.06.27 16:34:00 - [17] Not quite sure what most of this means. I have no details on any of the negotions other than a ceasefire or NAP was in place. I will say that for Oberon, it has been fun fighting the smash crowd. Thanks for the memories. Oberon-Inc FEAR MY EMOTICONS
Peoke	Posted - 2005.06.27 16:35:00 - [18] yes novah as emperor stated u did offer us omist after or first agreement. also what u may not know is that u offered us a factory and told us to refine at stain controled refinery and pay a tax to stain. the first offer of gq2s station and a few systems around we agreed to without any problems. what the problem is is that the next day u offer us something unreasonable and say pretty much take it or leave it. whats worse is that during the nap in exchange for the system u took back the 2 player capturables we had control of as per the agreement. so infact because u couldnt do it with us fighting u u need to nap with us to take back control of ur so called stations.
Novah	Posted - 2005.06.27 16:39:00 - [19] Originally by: Emperor SE then offered us 2 of the stations in the Omist regoin. This does is no good as we would have to fly though Ascendant Frontier space and would be in a very bad spot to defend ourselves if Ascendant or the 5 attacked us. Emperor, Perhaps Smash should put a political body togeather on an official level to work out some things with the southern people. I think if SE were on your side the politics there shouldnt be a problem. Contact myself ingame tonight for some contacts for alliances/corps in the south. ********************************************************* Intersteller eXodus - Making Stain A Happier Place To Raise Your Family.
Peoke	Posted - 2005.06.27 16:50:00 - [20] well im on now for 15-20 mins if u wanna talk
BOOFER	Posted - 2005.06.27 16:56:00 - [21] Edited by: BOOFER on 27/06/2005 16:57:35 Gentlemen (and Ladies ?)of the Smash alliance. The facts are. The original offer made by yourselves for control of GQ2 was NOT accepted. The offer of Period Basis was made as a legitimate offer, but was ill researched. The offer of Omist was an attempt at an easy alternate offer. We recognise youre right to refuse the Omist deal as not to youre liking. Rest assured we stand by our word, and every attempt possible will be made for a peaceful resolution. You will not be forced into any agreement you do not consider fit. This is not an attempt to delay, simply the middle of a process. So I will ask you to firstly please bear with us while the situation is rectified. Secondly could a representative who may speak for the alliance please contact me asap ingame, I will be dealing with the situation as of now. Thankyou. Boofer Stain Empire Foreign Affairs Minister (edit: Spelling :S) _______________________________________________
Novah	Posted - 2005.06.27 16:58:00 - [22] Peoke, As I said, Get emperor to speak to the right people within SE. Politics and arrangements are NOT discussed on the forums. Too many people would want their say and SE's statements would be misinterpreted if we had open floor politics. Novah (SEI) ********************************************************* Intersteller eXodus - Making Stain A Happier Place To Raise Your Family.
Novah	Posted - 2005.06.27 17:01:00 - [23] Peoke, As above please speak to BOOFER. ********************************************************* Intersteller eXodus - Making Stain A Happier Place To Raise Your Family.
Peoke	Posted - 2005.06.27 17:03:00 - [24] Edited by: Peoke on 27/06/2005 17:03:23 okay then thanks for the input. as for emperor he will be on later. also u can talk to me ingame or bobafeit, or Snoy, or TooHot. and a few more i may have missed. but the main part of this flaming was to get a response as cujo wont speak with me about this subject
BOOFER	Posted - 2005.06.27 17:28:00 - [25] Originally by: Peoke Edited by: Peoke on 27/06/2005 17:03:23 okay then thanks for the input. as for emperor he will be on later. also u can talk to me ingame or bobafeit, or Snoy, or TooHot. and a few more i may have missed. but the main part of this flaming was to get a response as cujo wont speak with me about this subject There are better ways of dealing with that problem... _______________________________________________
General Killah	Posted - 2005.06.27 18:05:00 - [26] Originally by: Novah Edited by: Novah on 27/06/2005 16:30:56 Smash members.....Please refer to this post as a SE reference to the initial post. Is there really any need to bring this onto the forums. My only guess is that your trying to prove something here and make SE look to the the guilty party. Emperor stated the facts as to what terrotories were offered and he stands correct on the issue of Period Basis. Omist was offered and in truth there is nothing wrong with teh area offered. Smash stated that they wanted stations, SE has offered them stations. The only people with a problem with the offer is Smash. You cannot really call Period basis "home". It is more of a temporary place to live during your campaign. Your campaign if i stand correct was to cause disruption within the boarders of stain. . At that point in time as shown in the video i made Period basis was unclaimed. Smash then moved south to attack Paragon Soul residents. SE's friends claimed the 2 stations in period basis. It was at this point in time that Smash wanted to claim ownership of paragon soul. After some boring station ping pong and some politics SE came up with an offer. Unfortunatly the initial offer couldnt go through for various reasons. At this point SE didnt come back to you saying "tough you dont have anything". No we came back with another offer of territory for you. And here we are now . . . . SE has tried to accomadate Smash as best possible. In truth SE offering you something is better than nothing at all. I suggest thinking about it and looking through the pro's and cons on a realistic level. Kind Regards, Novah (SEI) Stain members. please refer to this as the response to Stain's. We had no problems with our original offer and Cujo said it was "definately doable," one station and a small amount of space. I was gone for the night and part of the next day, and when I got back Emperor told me Stain had worked out a deal with BOB to give us Period Basis and that there were stain helping him capture the station. It was not us jumping the gun. I admit our campaign started as just a need to disrupt Stain as we have done for almost a year, however we grew attached to the region and as I said in the original post, it became our home. So in order to make it truely a home, we contacted Stain. You know what happened from there. The fact that we were told is was very doable at first, and then after a couple counter offers it was out of the question, is disturbing to me. Lastly we want peace, we were the ones who offered to give it to you. The problem is, your last offer was/is unacceptable and above that, Stain just said take it or leave it. Looks like they weren't that interested in persuing peace, but I don't know because I'm not Stain. Oh and I brought this to the forums to understand a couple more things as no one from Stain has a clue what's going on and neither do a lot of SMASH. --------------------------------- (\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world domination.
Zandramus	Posted - 2005.06.27 19:00:00 - [27] you guys been shooting each other for quite some time now, my question is now why stop. Frankly if you do come to some arraingment, then who are you going to shoot? as I have always stated one of the big problems with this game is due to political meandering, there are either never enough targets, or way too many targets to deal with. The latter usually doesnt last too long but the former seems to last too long to bear at times. Now I have fought Rome and smite guys and they seem decent at PVP, Stain guys when I was there didnt want to pvp, it was an effort to get them to undock and help. Frankly in the climate that the game is in now 3 regions is an awefully large amounf of area to try and control effectivly. this was a big part of the problem when I was there in that their guys that would pvp wanted to stay around the chokepoints rather than travel deep into Stain to actually help defend Stain space. I would think that Stain should concentrate its efforts on 1 region, which one makes no difference but with NWO coming up if you think you are gonna control all 3 regions then I think you may have some suprises coming. As for SMASH, why would you guys want peace, you have pvp with large numbers of people at will. I would expect if you actually do NAP Stain, you will find yourselves bored at the lack of action. Just some thoughts on the situation Zandramus Homeless And Clueless S.A.S
Novah	Posted - 2005.06.27 19:09:00 - [28] To confirm. We have kissed and made better for now. No more reason for anyone to post. Novah ********************************************************* Intersteller eXodus - Making Stain A Happier Place To Raise Your Family.
General Killah	Posted - 2005.06.27 21:03:00 - [29] Originally by: Novah To confirm. We have kissed and made better for now. No more reason for anyone to post. Novah Laughing my ass off, love the analogy But yes, confirmed on our side. --------------------------------- (\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world domination.
Rutoo	Posted - 2005.06.27 21:06:00 - [30] Edited by: Rutoo on 27/06/2005 21:11:54 Tea Party In 4gq at 00:00 EvE time. BYOB (Bring your Own Blob) _______________________________________________ Dreams are like stars, you choose them as your guides, and following them you will reach your destiny.
Ivilb Itch	Posted - 2005.06.27 21:10:00 - [31] Well, I must say that the quality of the Smash and SE diplomatic establishments is impressive. ________________________________ Victim of unnatural selection
BOldMan	Posted - 2005.06.27 21:35:00 - [32] Originally by: General Killah I admit our campaign started as just a need to disrupt Stain as we have done for almost a year, however we grew attached to the region and as I said in the original post, it became our home. So in order to make it truely a home, we contacted Stain. For me that sound like: I destroy your home for a year, now I contact you to let me to leave here in peace. Irony?
willows	Posted - 2005.06.27 21:58:00 - [33] tbh i think it would be more along the lines of: smash is smaller than se and alot poorer on a member to member base. smash is and has been operating mainly snipers (megas), they also run wcs setups or ganks setups. SE maybe fat slow and a ripe target but often can force smash into situations when they have to log to get out alive. That ends with the 30min timer. Smash has a abnormal amount of sniper/megas with at adverage 140km range. 100km warp in lets SE get into range with gank/tank and ecm setups. on a player to player basis SE has more, richer and higher skilled players. Chance's are SE would get a dread before smash. and a dread can take 8-12 bs solo.as well as obliterate structures and jumpdrive past blockades. bad for smash if se has 1 and they are pinned in 2-3 stations and 1 region.
Hurpe petra	Posted - 2005.06.27 22:04:00 - [34] Edited by: Hurpe petra on 27/06/2005 22:04:22
General Killah	Posted - 2005.06.27 22:06:00 - [35] Edited by: General Killah on 27/06/2005 22:12:30 1. Thank you Mr. Alt for your wonderful analysis. 2. Ask the Stain who've died at 5km to us. 3. You have never faught us obviously. 4. SMASH and SE both want peace 5. We were doing good on not flaming or saying who was better until you came along, if you're gonna post crap like that at least use your main. 6. Shoo as you know nothing. --------------------------------- (\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world domination.
Hyllekjeks	Posted - 2005.06.27 22:06:00 - [36] Edited by: Hyllekjeks on 27/06/2005 22:07:13 Originally by: Zandramus you guys been shooting each other for quite some time now, my question is now why stop. Frankly if you do come to some arraingment, then who are you going to shoot? as I have always stated one of the big problems with this game is due to political meandering, there are either never enough targets, or way too many targets to deal with. The latter usually doesnt last too long but the former seems to last too long to bear at times. Now I have fought Rome and smite guys and they seem decent at PVP, Stain guys when I was there didnt want to pvp, it was an effort to get them to undock and help. Frankly in the climate that the game is in now 3 regions is an awefully large amounf of area to try and control effectivly. this was a big part of the problem when I was there in that their guys that would pvp wanted to stay around the chokepoints rather than travel deep into Stain to actually help defend Stain space. I would think that Stain should concentrate its efforts on 1 region, which one makes no difference but with NWO coming up if you think you are gonna control all 3 regions then I think you may have some suprises coming. As for SMASH, why would you guys want peace, you have pvp with large numbers of people at will. I would expect if you actually do NAP Stain, you will find yourselves bored at the lack of action. Just some thoughts on the situation You might be next...
joefishy	Posted - 2005.06.27 22:19:00 - [37] personally we should **** politics and attack each other :) w00t
willows	Posted - 2005.06.27 22:20:00 - [38] 1. congrats u can recognise a alt, why use a alt? because your alliance is vindictive. coming from a stain member character it sounds like just another counter claim. 2. im sure some have but it goes against your main aproach to pvp in fleets atleast. 3. Obviously the alt has worked :). 4. some do yes, but both have PVP that never would accept it. more in SE cus theres more SE than smash and some just have bad blood they don't trust you and after that emperor/gm incident i don't blame em. 5.Your entire post was a peice of propaganda and flame. trying to blame failed peace on SE after you invade their space, hunt their miners and industry people and try to lower the public veiw of SE with this type of post. 6. Best thing you can say? whats rong my last post hit a nerve?
General Killah	Posted - 2005.06.27 22:41:00 - [39] --------------------------------- (\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world domination.
Jane Bunny	Posted - 2005.06.27 22:51:00 - [40] Edited by: Jane Bunny on 27/06/2005 22:51:34 Hey guys, remember when SE chased a ROME guy into the station in DSS. Then they did what any respecting army would do and laid siege just like ROME does. How did that turn out? Oh yeah, the ROME guy got a GM to move the hostils out of system for grief play PS Boobs
Novah	Posted - 2005.06.27 22:59:00 - [41] Willows, I dont know who your main is but please use the "close mouth feature" that god gave us all. I recognise that your pro stain.....and i thank you........ but spamming this thread isnt making thing any easier for both parties.... Thanks ********************************************************* Intersteller eXodus - Making Stain A Happier Place To Raise Your Family.
Emperor	Posted - 2005.06.27 23:47:00 - [42] Edited by: Emperor on 27/06/2005 23:47:49 Originally by: Jane Bunny Edited by: Jane Bunny on 27/06/2005 22:51:34 Hey guys, remember when SE chased a ROME guy into the station in DSS. Then they did what any respecting army would do and laid siege just like ROME does. How did that turn out? Oh yeah, the ROME guy got a GM to move the hostils out of system for grief play PS Boobs plz get your facts right. 1st of all it wasnt DSS, it was 4GQ. 2nd they didnt "chase us" in there they used there agents to see where we had logged for the night and set up a medium bubble out side so we got instantly warp jammed when we undocked. 3rd they took shifts camping us with no less than 15 people at any given time after 72 hours i filed a stuck petition and was moved, then around 300 SE members (only about 20 were actualy there) filed petitoins saying how i need to be moved back... so GM SWOOSH moved me back. the end. that was about 5 months ago, i think its time you get over it
Rutoo	Posted - 2005.06.27 23:59:00 - [43] 2 minutes until Tea Party, whos coming? _______________________________________________ Dreams are like stars, you choose them as your guides, and following them you will reach your destiny.
willows	Posted - 2005.06.28 00:11:00 - [44] Actualy i am not pro stain. I can call up a number of stain incidents that are just as bad as some of smash's, I just really can't stick propaganda. If you would like a taste how about the SE atack on Fix that lightdarkness and other ex-SE ceo insigated because they was bored after CA fell apart. Or more on the current subject, How a SE ceo and corp who walked out on the alliance when the fix war went bad and the enemy's gathered. That then decides they want back in because SE has lasted against their beleif's and the CEO decides to become self proclaimed emperor by pulling strings in secret. Smash may spread lies and half truths but never have i seen such a back stabbing bunch as the SE ceo's. Does smash have the right to moan about being backstabbed? NO. Should smash have known better than to trust certain SE ceo's? YES.
FalloutBoy	Posted - 2005.06.28 00:41:00 - [45] Originally by: willows Edited by: willows on 28/06/2005 00:15:11 Or more on the current subject, How a SE ceo and corp who walked out on the alliance when the fix war went bad and the enemy's gathered. That then decides they want back in because SE has lasted against their beleif's and the CEO decides to become self proclaimed emperor by pulling strings in secret. umm ok? all i'm going to say is you have no idea what your talking about
Novah	Posted - 2005.06.28 00:52:00 - [46] Originally by: willows Edited by: willows on 28/06/2005 00:15:11 Actualy i am not pro stain. I can call up a number of stain incidents that are just as bad as some of smash's, I just really can't stick propaganda. If you would like a taste how about the SE atack on Fix that lightdarkness and other ex-SE ceo insigated because they was bored after CA fell apart. Or more on the current subject, How a SE ceo and corp who walked out on the alliance when the fix war went bad and the enemy's gathered. That then decides they want back in because SE has lasted against their beleif's and the CEO decides to become self proclaimed emperor by pulling strings in secret. Smash may spread lies and half truths but never have i seen such a back stabbing bunch as the SE ceo's. Does smash have the right to moan about being backstabbed? NO. Should smash have known better than to trust certain SE ceo's? YES. Will SE try to dismiss my claims about it's command? YES. Willows, You really need to refrain from typing anything for like the next 6 months. You have no clue at all what you are talking about. You are not part of the discussion and thus whatever you have to say means.......urm........ NOTHING! Please find another post to troll in please and let the people that want to patch our differences do just that. Thanks and ill speak to you in 6 months. novah ********************************************************* Intersteller eXodus - Making Stain A Happier Place To Raise Your Family.
Threx	Posted - 2005.06.28 01:00:00 - [47] Edited by: Threx on 28/06/2005 01:01:38 Originally by: willows Edited by: willows on 27/06/2005 22:09:57 tbh i think it would be more along the lines of: smash is smaller than se and alot poorer on a member to member base. smash is and has been operating mainly snipers (megas), they also run wcs setups or ganks setups. SE maybe fat slow and a ripe target but often can force smash into situations when they have to log to get out alive. That ends with the 30min timer. Smash has a abnormal amount of sniper/megas with at adverage 140km range. 100km warp in lets SE get into range with gank/tank and ecm setups. on a player to player basis SE has more, richer and higher skilled players. Chance's are SE would get a dread before smash. and a dread can take 8-12 bs solo.as well as obliterate structures and jumpdrive past blockades. bad for smash if se has 1 and they are pinned in 2-3 stations and 1 region. AND then they see it coming. they reach out and SE does exactly what they would do in the same situation. Then in true smash style they come running to the forums shouting how SE back stabbed them once again trying to lower public opinion of se. This is the sad truth of a alliance thatpreys on miners, rat hunters and that has run from every battle they have been matched in. A perfect example being when emperor said SE was harrassing him due to him being camped in a npc station for 3 days solid. they moved him and then he got moved back when gm's found out he had lied to them and that he had brought the camp on himself. as far as ive seen every fleet fights at sniper ranges now and get some research in because pvp timer as far as i know refers to logging out while getting shot at so it wont hurt us at all, but it may hurt a few pilots ive met around the stain region namely that imperial apoc I caught in 4gq and had it log out on me twice 'cheers to mass'
Aturayd	Posted - 2005.06.28 01:24:00 - [48] Ill have a Large #2 with root beer, a McFlurry M&M, and some hot apple pie. ----------------------------------- about:blank
General Killah	Posted - 2005.06.28 01:59:00 - [49] Great tea party here in 4gq guys, lots of....uhm....tea...to go around. On the subject, none of what I wrote was propaganda as anyone in SE leadership can confirm, did I try to make it seem SMASH more the victim, perhaps so, but none of the facts are wrong. On another topic, a GM can lock this thread at any time, it's turning into flamebait. --------------------------------- (\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world domination.
shivan	Posted - 2005.06.28 02:06:00 - [50] Originally by: FalloutBoy Originally by: willows Edited by: willows on 28/06/2005 00:15:11 Or more on the current subject, How a SE ceo and corp who walked out on the alliance when the fix war went bad and the enemy's gathered. That then decides they want back in because SE has lasted against their beleif's and the CEO decides to become self proclaimed emperor by pulling strings in secret. umm ok? all i'm going to say is you have no idea what your talking about aggreed. TBH no-one who isnt in the south knows what really happened. In fact, i doubt half of stain REALLY know what happened polticaly about this. As for your guess, keep guessing, I very highly doubt you will guess the correct answer. With regards to the orignal poster. Why? Why did you even make this post, and what was the point in it? From what I can tell, all your trying to do is a weak and febble attempt at trying to embarris SE without knowing the full facts yourself. Or maybe you do, but your twisting it so hard that your facts look like a corkscrew to the real facts as they have been twisted so much. Man I've heard of spin, but this is unbeleavble. Does your dad work in either of the US or UK goverments cuz from what I can tell, you have taken a master class of spin. As for the rest of Smash, and espeicllay the leaders Ive spoken with briefly, Emp and toohot, you know the real deal of whats happened. Would it be at all possible to please keep your members in line before they make any more ill informed posts. Thanx --------------------------------------- (\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world domination http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/llama.php
willows	Posted - 2005.06.28 02:07:00 - [51] Novah all you have done is tell me to shut up. You have not given any proof to me being incorrect. Was and are you even in the SE command channels? I know chatlogs dating back to then exist so why not dig them up and prove me rong about SE commands atack on fix or its continual internal arguments at that time. And well you are at proving me rong and not just telling me i am the chat logs for the night the new emperor was proclaimed and the logs from the discussion over species being alowed back in. And i mean full un-modified logs. And as for the claim smash won't get hurt by the new timer, unless they kill SE without opening fire or getting fired on i find it hard to beleive that you wont get hurt as bad if not worse than se would.
General Killah	Posted - 2005.06.28 02:16:00 - [52] Edited by: General Killah on 28/06/2005 02:17:53 1. Willows please go read the post about how the timer works. 2. Shivan, my parents never worked for the government, the fact that you think I spun this incredibly shows you obviously aren't "in the loop" of things. 3. This post is turning into pure flames, that was not the point. It was a post of my opinions and the facts that existed. 4. This thread needs a lock. --------------------------------- (\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world domination.
Pradege D'Hallur	Posted - 2005.06.28 02:58:00 - [53] AMEN TO THAT.....LOCK PLEASE When we die God's job is to judge us..........My job is to arrange that meeting
Novah	Posted - 2005.06.28 07:40:00 - [54] yup prad, Ill 2nd that one. Willows, Yes ive been in the loop with SE affairs for coming up on 2 years now. Nuff said please lock thread ********************************************************* Intersteller eXodus - Making Stain A Happier Place To Raise Your Family.
Bad'Boy	Posted - 2005.06.28 07:55:00 - [55] you guys sux, both SMAsh and SE MAXSuicide > I LOVE U SIIM MAXSuicide > lets go outback for a quicky siim > that was so desperate attempt
Bad'Boy	Posted - 2005.06.28 07:56:00 - [56] you guys sux, both SMAsh and SE, IMO MAXSuicide > I LOVE U SIIM MAXSuicide > lets go outback for a quicky siim > that was so desperate attempt
joefishy	Posted - 2005.06.28 10:20:00 - [57] may be a group w00t is needed for both sides... i suggest shouting out woot as lauod as you can and your feel much better WOOOOOOOOOOOT
Liet Traep	Posted - 2005.06.28 11:10:00 - [58] Um about Omist. I thought that was controlled by the Coalition. Did the entire coalition rejoin Stain? If so then they originally left stain, conquered one of xetic's regions and then rejoined the fold?
Zandramus	Posted - 2005.06.28 11:23:00 - [59] Originally by: Hyllekjeks Edited by: Hyllekjeks on 27/06/2005 22:07:13 Originally by: Zandramus you guys been shooting each other for quite some time now, my question is now why stop. Frankly if you do come to some arraingment, then who are you going to shoot? as I have always stated one of the big problems with this game is due to political meandering, there are either never enough targets, or way too many targets to deal with. The latter usually doesnt last too long but the former seems to last too long to bear at times. Now I have fought Rome and smite guys and they seem decent at PVP, Stain guys when I was there didnt want to pvp, it was an effort to get them to undock and help. Frankly in the climate that the game is in now 3 regions is an awefully large amounf of area to try and control effectivly. this was a big part of the problem when I was there in that their guys that would pvp wanted to stay around the chokepoints rather than travel deep into Stain to actually help defend Stain space. I would think that Stain should concentrate its efforts on 1 region, which one makes no difference but with NWO coming up if you think you are gonna control all 3 regions then I think you may have some suprises coming. As for SMASH, why would you guys want peace, you have pvp with large numbers of people at will. I would expect if you actually do NAP Stain, you will find yourselves bored at the lack of action. Just some thoughts on the situation You might be next... Good that would mean more targets... Zandramus Homeless And Clueless S.A.S
Soul Redemption	Posted - 2005.06.28 12:06:00 - [60] Edited by: Soul Redemption on 28/06/2005 12:10:29 K ppl post for ya all us in smash tend 2 share info so our members know everything now let me make this clear im a director and i know al lthe info back and forth up and down and your ALL WRONG and VERY BORING and EXTREMLY STUPID :P boofer is some what close 2 revealing alot of the truth and so is emp but your all so wrong and your BORING ME OUT OF MAH MIND!!! i like Orc A he kicks ass and i like Abriana overlord cuz hes uber!!! the rest of you just cant shut up :P will your ummm well your something but you do not have the forsight ability lol and zander I REMEMBER YOU!!! :D i fought you in your raven :P as i remember you ran out as your cap died out 5k from my apoc lol no smack talk but who you calling decent?!! lol i wuv you all now stfu your all so WERY WERY BORING! i mean like PLZ you all taking guessing games here ? and flaming post games? <-----laughs loudly im sorry but if this posting crap goes on with none of the sides telling the full truth (stain needs to tell more truth than smash) :D than well stfu and go away! this is becoming mind numbing!!! im feeling my left hemosphere falling asleep LOL at willow (as i know who his main is) stfu :P you such a spam head man novah im sorry but be quiet plz k lol i mean if ppl wanna comment let tham comment its not the soviet union... so dont act like a ****tator (did i spell that right?) lol love love and boofer well i wuv you and all but you got a big mouth and no arms 2 excute what your brain thinks and your mouth says :P(powerless dude in stain) as for the GM incident with emp DEAR GOD it was so AMAZINGLY long time ago i can give you helf a dozen incidents where stain did far worse but i wont cuz this isnt a flame post so plz go away lmao!!!! oh the edit is for JOEFISHY PWNZZZZEERRRRRRR UBER DUDE!
IamBen	Posted - 2005.06.28 12:15:00 - [61] beer+forum= post above.
Destroyer Draxx	Posted - 2005.06.28 12:20:00 - [62] Originally by: Liet Traep Um about Omist. I thought that was controlled by the Coalition. Did the entire coalition rejoin Stain? If so then they originally left stain, conquered one of xetic's regions and then rejoined the fold? A smart question needs answering. Imo its a win win situation for Cujo. U c by giving away Omist they are forcing the rest of the coalition to join Stain while getting rid of the Smite guys. This is my personal view and not that of my corp. I ll quote a fellow coalition member when I say "I guess when they say Power corrupts they hit the nail on the head." So Far So Good....So What
Soul Redemption	Posted - 2005.06.28 12:25:00 - [63] its not beer+ fourms= my post its me+ getting really boring and losing grey cells in mah head from reading all the stupid crap ppl say with out any idea= my post :P and btw i dont drink nor smoke nor use drugs cuz its all BAD!
IamBen	Posted - 2005.06.28 12:57:00 - [64] Originally by: Soul Redemption its not beer+ fourms= my post its me+ getting really boring and losing grey cells in mah head from reading all the stupid crap ppl say with out any idea= my post :P and btw i dont drink nor smoke nor use drugs cuz its all BAD! Sure you dont Denial is the first sign of a problem.
Rutoo	Posted - 2005.06.28 14:32:00 - [65] Originally by: Soul Redemption Edited by: Soul Redemption on 28/06/2005 12:10:29 i like Abriana overlord cuz hes uber!!! Yea Abs is a funny person :) Very Super indeed. _______________________________________________ Dreams are like stars, you choose them as your guides, and following them you will reach your destiny.
joefishy	Posted - 2005.06.28 16:06:00 - [66] Originally by: Soul Redemption Edited by: Soul Redemption on 28/06/2005 12:10:29 oh the edit is for JOEFISHY PWNZZZZEERRRRRRR UBER DUDE! Now thats a ******* wootage thing man... thats all that needed to be said in this thread.. is that i pwn , but i could not do it without you soul , your my guiding light , the star taht has forever shined to guide me in the dark times. Woooot long live soul ! and his beer drinking antics
Stradivarious	Posted - 2005.06.28 16:07:00 - [67] Edited by: Stradivarious on 28/06/2005 16:10:22 I apologize for jumping into a thread that has nothing to do with me, but I can't resist squashing this moron :p Originally by: willows Edited by: willows on 27/06/2005 22:09:57 SE maybe fat slow and a ripe target but often can force smash into situations when they have to log to get out alive. That ends with the 30min timer. Try again, the timer is based on combat, if they aren't engaged in combat for 30 min their ship still disappears 1 min after logout. Don't know about you, but its pretty easy to warp from SS to SS for 30 min every time you see a 3 AU probe on scanner within 50 mil km... On the other hand, this will vastly increase the number of ships stain loses due to intentional logoffs to avoid combat... From personal experience, like VC, Smash does NOT log off in combat... Smash has a abnormal amount of sniper/megas with at adverage 140km range. 100km warp in lets SE get into range with gank/tank and ecm setups. Hmm 7 ships vs 40, yep I'd snipe too :p Now if you had 40 snipers on your side you might actually be able to defend yourselves :p But nobody seems to have thought of that on your side... on a player to player basis SE has more, richer and higher skilled players. ROFLMFAO I was running from and getting killed by emperor (Way back when I was a newb, and I've been playing 2 years now) in fountain space before you ever heard of eve most likely :) What ever happened to bombkit btw emp? Chance's are SE would get a dread before smash. and a dread can take 8-12 bs solo.as well as obliterate structures and jumpdrive past blockades. bad for smash if se has 1 and they are pinned in 2-3 stations and 1 region. You seriously need to reread the info on them... As I understand it they will be introduced as BPOs from NPC merchants, same as the original BSes were, since they are tech 1 ships. Which means anyone with the cash, can buy a bpo. And considering that I know certain persons in smash own tech 2 ship bpos, you can be certain that they will be able to afford 1 easily :p This is the sad truth of a alliance thatpreys on miners, rat hunters and that has run from every battle they have been matched in. cough BS cough refer to the previous 7 vs 40 comment, as for preying on miners and npcers, its called killing the logistics of an alliance and a valid tactic. Come up with a counter tactic and stop whining... No I'm not smash, I have worked closely with them against Stain, No I don't agree with their cease fire on stain, but they have their reasons and I can understand that. But spamming out BS with an alt, you stick out like a cheap nail in a 2x4 m8, just waiting to be hammered... /me tries to pry himself away from BF2 long enough to log in and kill something... grunt crap too hard... see you in a bit :/ If you play BF2, look for me under Polaran and I'm usually on one of the EA US Official EC servers... Bunch of us from DMGI and Rubra playing atm :p Edit: Added indents to show which are my comments in the quote, cba to quote unquote all that crap.. Hmm indents not showing, guess you're on your own, sorry :/ I like to think of myself as the chlorine in the gene pool.
joefishy	Posted - 2005.06.28 16:16:00 - [68] what strad has pointed out ... owns... well played strad :) kinda sumed it up , LOL they think Smash is poor LOLOLOL were prob richer than stain :)
Arud	Posted - 2005.06.28 16:38:00 - [69] I'm just speaking from my personal point of view, not on behalf of Stain, the Coalition or MASS. Stain is the oldest alliance in the game, that everyone knows. It has been invaded on many occasions which all have been twarted away, except smash and co. I do respect smash for their anti alliance tactics have worked surpisingly well. But the fact is that for the oldest alliance to give up part of their original space is very hard to accept. That smash has to understand, so the offer of Omist region is extremely generous in my opinion and something I think Smash should seriously want to consider if they want a region of their own. Willows the alt put it nicely, even though its a alt post he does have good points. Its precicely these tactics which have worked extremely well for smash, ofcorse they dont always work and close range combat will happen. For Smash, I seriously recomend they contact Stain contacts about Omist, it is a good offer if you want your own region. A part of the deal would be, that is if Stain has it, instas from omist to empire and back, would help you guys settle in. But, good luck to both parties, neither should expect too much from either party.
Khaerie	Posted - 2005.06.28 17:22:00 - [70] ........ It's just not worth it posting here. ........ /me walks off 2nd in Command for Stain Empire Foreign Affairs CEO
Alasse Cuthalion	Posted - 2005.06.28 17:47:00 - [71] Originally by: Orc A Personally, I woulnd't mind seeing You guys have period Basis. But Paragon? Why don't you offer them Venal whilst you're at it? Try not to involve other peoples regions when making deals eh?
joefishy	Posted - 2005.06.28 18:09:00 - [72] Originally by: Alasse Cuthalion Why don't you offer them Venal whilst you're at it? Try not to involve other peoples regions when making deals eh? go you !
HeLlRaIzA666	Posted - 2005.06.28 18:12:00 - [73] Originally by: willows Edited by: willows on 27/06/2005 22:09:57 Smash has a abnormal amount of sniper/megas with at adverage 140km range. 100km warp in lets SE get into range with gank/tank and ecm setups. and then the reply was ". Ask the Stain who've died at 5km to us. 3. You have never faught us obviously." erm.. ye i fought u, and er , ye, u sit at 150km + and snipe, and ye, u were boring, and ye, u were so boring to fight, i actually quit stain due to being bored of the targets, so when i see u fightin at 5km, then i wont keep coughbull****cough, caughin -------------------------------------------- In War There Are No Runners Up... Image by Denrace
Novah	Posted - 2005.06.28 18:20:00 - [74] Originally by: Alasse Cuthalion Originally by: Orc A Personally, I woulnd't mind seeing You guys have period Basis. But Paragon? Why don't you offer them Venal whilst you're at it? Try not to involve other peoples regions when making deals eh? I am taking on board that your corp forms part of BoB but you arent the owners of the PB stations. In this instance please let our guys speak to the relevent people in BoB to work this out. Its not our place to offer space to other that we have had nothing to do with, but in this instance it was SE that arranged PB for you guys. Lets get this sorted for good now. Regards ********************************************************* Intersteller eXodus - Making Stain A Happier Place To Raise Your Family.
Alasse Cuthalion	Posted - 2005.06.28 18:31:00 - [75] oh, so SE allowed us to have PB? Man, how gracious of you! Chuckle
General Killah	Posted - 2005.06.28 18:52:00 - [76] First of all, Khaerie it was worth posting here till about page 3. Second, the offer for Omist was both factories meaning we had to refine in the Stain taxed refinery like all the other corps down there. Third, I'm not discussing our tactics, they work damn good and we kill without dying. Last, we are still in negotiations so there is no need for the flames that started when willows posted on page 3. Please turn your head back to the other forums and do not post here unless you have a genuine relavent(non-flaming)question. --------------------------------- (\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world domination.
Aturayd	Posted - 2005.06.28 20:41:00 - [77] The Forums: Where in-game theory, good teamspeak discussions, and diplomacy fade into oblivion through alt postings, people posting who have no business posting and just general foolishness by rouges who want to cause a rift but wont do so in front of their CEOs. ----------------------------------- about:blank
Orc A	Posted - 2005.06.29 01:55:00 - [78] And Me :) -Orky
Blacklight	Posted - 2005.06.29 02:56:00 - [79] Originally by: Novah I am taking on board that your corp forms part of BoB but you arent the owners of the PB stations. In this instance please let our guys speak to the relevent people in BoB to work this out. Its not our place to offer space to other that we have had nothing to do with, but in this instance it was SE that arranged PB for you guys. Are you mental? You clearly have not got the faintest idea about what went on so stop talking nonsense. We took Period Basis as a favour to Boofer to try help your alliance stop getting your collective asses kicked every 5 mins from multiple directions at once and quite frankly because we felt like it. To suggest/imply that anyone arranged it or allowed us to do something is laughable. We do what we want, when we want, where we want. Eve Blacklight Style
General Killah	Posted - 2005.06.29 04:21:00 - [80] To the several of you who have questioned that part of what Novah said, I think he was talking about SMASH, could be wrong. --------------------------------- (\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world domination.
Soul Redemption	Posted - 2005.06.29 04:48:00 - [81] Edited by: Soul Redemption on 29/06/2005 04:49:22 all this long range ** is just stupid lol cuz you lot are **s :P i wanna see you doing 4 vs 20 close range you morons lol we do long range when were out gunned when the numbers are some whateven we tend 2 do close range and we always win 1vs1 or 2vs2 situations are always close range we're better than stain both long and short range STAIN IS BORING your skilless players with helf witz it takes 20 stain ppl to complete a single stain mind.... your all boring alts and ppl and hellraizer we've fought before and you died and lost or ran out you have no right to speak of anythign with the limited info you have about ANYTHING edit is to make you understand how much of a bunch of retards you lots are and you got egos the size of of a house and nothing to back it up!
Abriana Overlord	Posted - 2005.06.29 09:52:00 - [82] Moderator please hit this forum strand with the lock bat. It has now passed it's purpose and is counter productive. Thank You Abs
lythos miralbar	Posted - 2005.06.29 12:17:00 - [83] Edited by: lythos miralbar on 29/06/2005 12:21:24 Quote: Well just to point out to the ill informed stain populas. Smash did not move out of 4gq because we were pinned down, we moved to find people willing to defend their space Thats not what I said, thought what I said below made it clear.. Quote: and it became clear they would never break the alliance they moved further and further south. Eventualy they were pushed/wanted to go (whatever) further south into paragon soul. Ohh and btw.. (This is not a flame) A that time SE was deliberately avoiding you except for a small number of people. There werent back then alot of pvp'ers (very different now) and you were using alot of snipers which were hard to counter. So a descision was made just to stay clear of you and wack you when the chance arrived. We were going to let you get bored and then you'd go away. Now personally I like to see you guys join SE... Screw giving you a small chunk of space to live in, have the whole of SE space to live in. That way everyone wins.. SE dont give up any space, and you guys get the home you wanted. Quote: all this long range ** is just stupid lol cuz you lot are **s :P i wanna see you doing 4 vs 20 close range you morons lol we do long range when were out gunned when the numbers are some whateven we tend 2 do close range and we always win 1vs1 or 2vs2 situations are always close range we're better than stain both long and short range STAIN IS BORING your skilless players with helf witz it takes 20 stain ppl to complete a single stain mind.... your all boring alts and ppl and hellraizer we've fought before and you died and lost or ran out you have no right to speak of anythign with the limited info you have about ANYTHING edit is to make you understand how much of a bunch of retards you lots are and you got egos the size of of a house and nothing to back it up! Now come on play nice.. It would be very easy for everyone to call names. There are good pvp'ers on both sides (and naff ones on both sides too).
Peoke	Posted - 2005.06.29 13:51:00 - [84] Okay ima explain this once again. this is What smash chose to do. when killing 26bs a day in 4gq area dropped to 1 or 2 bs We decided that since stain was hiding and waiting for us just to leave we had a great oppurtunity to get fights from people that never seen us and only heard of us on alliance chat. this brought us to paragon. now the opening days/week of the fights were the best. paragon residents defending their sapcae and fighting well. now we started to take the stations and here is when the sniping began. the first few times stain came to retake the stations had 30+ man fleet. while we had if we were lucky 4-7 people online. now even with such small numbers we did what we needed destroyed soft targets and hindered station taking. now i give full credit to stain and as the people in the battles saw even out numbered we came in close look at the last bs Emporer lost yes we lost one but we took out 6 and it was in a outnumbered situation. so for Most of these ill informed stain people that just read forums and follow alliance chat u have nothing to say on this forum. we have been getting the responses from proper stain members.
lythos miralbar	Posted - 2005.06.29 14:11:00 - [85] Edited by: lythos miralbar on 29/06/2005 14:12:37 Quote: 26bs a day uuuuhuh.. Ohhh and numerous time we (including myself) came to try and engage you with equal numbers in uf/tg etc and most of the time you just pegged it, grabbed a few buddies and came back with a bigger force. That was another reason people decided to steer clear of you.. it got boring. Anyway, tired of this, its getting boring too.. see you in space.. in my gunsights.
Khaerie	Posted - 2005.06.29 16:15:00 - [86] Moderator, please lock this thread. It is leading no where but trouble. GK, thanks for the comments but this is still not worth posting to. 2nd in Command for Stain Empire Foreign Affairs CEO
joefishy	Posted - 2005.06.29 16:46:00 - [87] i like to fight <3 fishy soul your the one for me hunny ummm i also like a stain member... the king of veld ... naverin or what ever , i like a few others aswell. but its cool to fight alliences :D
General Killah	Posted - 2005.06.29 17:08:00 - [88] Originally by: lythos miralbar Edited by: lythos miralbar on 29/06/2005 12:36:02 Edited by: lythos miralbar on 29/06/2005 12:21:24 Quote: Well just to point out to the ill informed stain populas. Smash did not move out of 4gq because we were pinned down, we moved to find people willing to defend their space I did not say you were pushed, was trying to be diplomatic. Thought what I said below made it clear.. Quote: and it became clear they would never break the alliance they moved further and further south. Eventualy they were pushed/wanted to go (whatever) further south into paragon soul. Ohh and btw.. (This is not a flame) A that time SE was deliberately avoiding you except for a small number of people. There werent back then alot of pvp'ers (very different now) and you were using alot of snipers which were hard to counter. So a descision was made just to stay clear of you and wack you when the chance arrived. We were going to let you get bored and then you'd go away. Now personally I like to see you guys join SE... Screw giving you a small chunk of space to live in, have the whole of SE space to live in. That way everyone wins.. SE dont give up any space, and you guys get the home you wanted. Quote: all this long range ** is just stupid lol cuz you lot are **s :P i wanna see you doing 4 vs 20 close range you morons lol we do long range when were out gunned when the numbers are some whateven we tend 2 do close range and we always win 1vs1 or 2vs2 situations are always close range we're better than stain both long and short range STAIN IS BORING your skilless players with helf witz it takes 20 stain ppl to complete a single stain mind.... your all boring alts and ppl and hellraizer we've fought before and you died and lost or ran out you have no right to speak of anythign with the limited info you have about ANYTHING edit is to make you understand how much of a bunch of retards you lots are and you got egos the size of of a house and nothing to back it up! Now come on play nice.. It would be very easy for everyone to call names. There are good pvp'ers on both sides (and naff ones on both sides too). Unfortuneately that will never happen. We offered to join Stain once and got turned down flat, so it's our alliance now. And moderator please lock! --------------------------------- (\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world domination.
Tweety Bird	Posted - 2005.06.30 11:30:00 - [89] Originally by: joefishy i like to fight <3 fishy soul your the one for me hunny ummm i also like a stain member... the king of veld ... naverin or what ever , i like a few others aswell. but its cool to fight alliences :D pffft thx joe and here i try to help you on your way to world domination ---------------------------------------------- >`))))-( This is fishy joefishy copy him in to your sig to help him on his way to world domination
joefishy	Posted - 2005.06.30 13:43:00 - [90] Edited by: joefishy on 30/06/2005 13:42:59 Originally by: Tweety Bird pffft thx joe and here i try to help you on your way to world domination tweety you know i love you 2 , dam those to much love iam giving out , anyway i appreciate what your doing for me :) go you ! long live the tweety tweet tweet birdy :) w0000t !! group W00t anyone ?
Abdalion	Posted - 2005.06.30 13:51:00 - [91] Locked on request of the threads author. Click. -- I ♥ You.... Stolen from Eris®

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