You're going to have to provide something solid if you want to be taken seriously, you know.

Which is still no less a matter of opinion than the Republic claiming the same. The difference is that if the slaves really want to leave the Republic, they can.

Be sure to tell that to the families of the people I had to kill when the tried to stop me from getting back to the Mandate.

In a daring covert operation the Minmatar Republic liberated over million slaves from Ammatar space.
May many more be freed from bondage.

You don't read the news much, do you? Your refugee camps are a complete disaster, you can't provide half the aid you claim to offer and you routinely shut out or even slaughter those who refuse to bend to your indoctrination. You sure as heck don't great all your refugees with open arms, either.

Seriously, every news article that has ever cropped up on this issue only illustrates that you have no idea what you're talking about. Oh, and Jarizza? Let me guess, you've never heard of that either, right? Seriously, your blinders could stop an overheated tachyon beam.

No, because I don't believe you.

Of course you don't, because it's so much easier to ignore the litany of evidence provided that stands CLEARLY to the contrary of every other lie spouted with regards to the "fantastic" conditions faced by those who have been kidnapped and relocated against their will.

Your ignorance and stout defiance to published fact is beyond astounding.

As for a few news pieces shedding light upon abnormal conditions and events, I'd say exceptions proving the rules.

You don't even know what that phrase means. "Exceptions test the rules." Your "rules" don't pass a smell test. I saw all of the things in that news and more. Are you going to try to suppress me like all of the other egomaniac bigots who grabbed me? Are you going to come and threaten me with a mass driver until I repent and give up my faith? It didn't work the last time. It won't work now.

Now I know where all those socks have gone. You really expect anyone to believe that you're somehow the norm?

I managed to slip back home again. Most won't.

There was no raid or force involved, unless you think the Mandate is so wildly inept that they can't protect over a million(!) men and women from being hauled off by force. The only way to pull this off would be a calm and orderly evacuation of willing people.

This isn't a clash of dusties we are talking about here.Take a group of people with weapons telling a crowd of civilians to do something. Imply that the weapons will be used on those civilians if they don't do as they are told. You won't likely get a gunfight. Things will be quiet. That doesn't mean it was a willing action.

You do realise that the Pickup point for the Convoy was not Planetside, right? It was in Sasta where the Convoy is specifically noted as having docked to pick up these Passengers.

The Only Station in Sasta belongs to the Ammatar Fleet. Are you seriously suggesting that we managed to abduct 1.3 Million People from the Station without the Ammatar Fleet either Noticing, or doing anything about it?

That would imply Incompetence on a Massive Scale by the Ammatar Fleet.

And if it is a capsuleer run operation ? If they slaves were already on the capsuleer market or in the hands of a capsuleer to begin with, what does the Ammatar Fleet has to do with that ?

Or do you have sources pointing out that the slaves in question were handled by a baseliner entity ?

That being the case, then the Operation would have been Legitimate in the Eyes of the Mandate. It is not illegal in the Mandate to have a Registered Slave Onboard your ship, nor to move one from one place to another.

Basically my point was, this was a Simple Convoy, not a Smash and Grab Raid as being portrayed by many of the Amarrians and Ammatar in this Thread. We entered the Mandate, we took on legitimate passengers, we went home. Nothing that was done was against Mandate Law.

If we'd broken the Laws of the Mandate, the Fleet would have gotten involved. As they didn't then no crime was committed within the Mandate.

Please also note that although the Security for the Convoy was handled by Electus Matari Capsuleers, the Actual Transport Duties were handled by Personnel in the Employ of Freedom Extension.

I pray for those who lost their lives in this raid.

I pray for those who where taken from loving hands to be tossed to the wolves.

I pray most of all for the families who's lives have been irrevocably disturbed by this gross injustice.

This sounds both reasonable and plausible. My offer earlier in this thread still stand. I'm sure it'll do wonders for the unconvinced if there's independent verification of their well-being.

Yeah I'm sure all 1.3 million of these evacuees were kidnapped, dragged kicking and screaming away from the temple they were praying in while waiting for the Amarrian god to smile upon them a few hundred years after their deaths. Yeah, sure.

To all of you dubious slavers and your apologists please remember that there are literally thousands of people, many of them slaves, cast adrift in cargo containers every day. Who's to say that those evacuees weren't collected from space or, were handed over to FE or EM by humanitarian capsuleers, over a long period of time and transported en masse in this convoy?

Oh well, why muddy the waters with rational explanations when wild conspiracies are so much more fun?

That being the case, then the Operation would have been Legitimate in the Eyes of the Mandate. It is not illegal in the Mandate to have a Registered Slave Onboard your ship, nor to move one from one place to another.

Basically my point was, this was a Simple Convoy, not a Smash and Grab Raid as being portrayed by many of the Amarrians and Ammatar in this Thread. We entered the Mandate, we took on legitimate passengers, we went home. Nothing that was done was against Mandate Law.

If we'd broken the Laws of the Mandate, the Fleet would have gotten involved. As they didn't then no crime was committed within the Mandate.

Please also note that although the Security for the Convoy was handled by Electus Matari Capsuleers, the Actual Transport Duties were handled by Personnel in the Employ of Freedom Extension.

Someone didn't read the news or the thread.

You're one to talk.

Keep barking, slaver.

You don't actually care for the well beig of those that are kidnapped, you simply seek to advance your own dogmatic and misguided beliefs.