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Aryth
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.01.17 17:13:00 -
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CCP should not consider POS in the realm of too large to do, or a Jesus feature, or something that needs to be spanned over 2 years. POS are something every player can engage in the use of, regardless of SEC status of their chosen home.
Give players their own little slice of EVE. Promote ownership, this hits all the magic marketing areas. Players that have ownership in something are far more likely to stay with the game. No one wants to use POS right now unless they have to, the interface is godawful, the benefits almost non-existent, and the ability to use it for anything that isn't better served elsewhere very limited.
If Crimewatch can get a team dedicated to it, i see no reason POS shouldn't.
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Aryth
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.01.17 18:14:00 -
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Alx Warlord wrote:Nair Alderau wrote:mynnna wrote:To reiterate what I see is the problem here is not that they aren't doing them yet and (evidently) that they aren't working on them at all, but that they seem to see it as a problem that only affects "a small part" of the playerbase and so perhaps do not regard it as a higher priority item.
That is clearly very, very wrong. Very, very wrong indeed. Very, very, VERY wrong indeed.
Oh boy a quota chain!
Very, very VERY VERY wrong indeed
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Aryth
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.01.17 19:01:00 -
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Sir SmashAlot wrote:Plex for POS drive anyone?
The opposite is more viable. You can attack the subs. I already have a plan to do it actually.
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Aryth
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.01.17 20:03:00 -
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mynnna wrote:Brooks Puuntai wrote:Two step wrote:
Again, I'd like to remind folks that are actually reading this thread to keep things civil and constructive. Going all nutso will only hurt the chances of getting CCP to work on POSes.
While I agree with this to some point, however how long should the playerbase play nice? This has been discussed and almost unanimously support from the playerbase for years, yet it has remained a elephant in the room. While many would not wish to resort to rage, it seems to be the only effective measure to get CCP support, as history would show. Development on this should have started shortly after Apocrapha, especially with the explosion of POS use when wormholes where released. Yet it does not seem that CCP even cares or has even started working on it. CCP should feel like we're simply voicing our support for a feature we deeply care about, not that we're a riotous crowd trying to ransom them into developing a feature we care about. Thus, being rude or mean is not the way to go.
I have a much different opinion on this than Mynnna. Historically CCP only seems to change their positions when the playerbase either riots, smears them in the media, or inflicts pain on their subs. I consider riotous behavior consistent with the belief that their behavior only seems to change when displeasure is voiced in the most extreme ways possible.
It isn't that I like that, it is that they seem to keep repeating the same mistakes as the past....not listening to the players until forced to.
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Aryth
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.01.17 20:24:00 -
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mynnna wrote:Aryth wrote:mynnna wrote:Brooks Puuntai wrote:Two step wrote:
Again, I'd like to remind folks that are actually reading this thread to keep things civil and constructive. Going all nutso will only hurt the chances of getting CCP to work on POSes.
While I agree with this to some point, however how long should the playerbase play nice? This has been discussed and almost unanimously support from the playerbase for years, yet it has remained a elephant in the room. While many would not wish to resort to rage, it seems to be the only effective measure to get CCP support, as history would show. Development on this should have started shortly after Apocrapha, especially with the explosion of POS use when wormholes where released. Yet it does not seem that CCP even cares or has even started working on it. CCP should feel like we're simply voicing our support for a feature we deeply care about, not that we're a riotous crowd trying to ransom them into developing a feature we care about. Thus, being rude or mean is not the way to go. I have a much different opinion on this than Mynnna. Historically CCP only seems to change their positions when the playerbase either riots, smears them in the media, or inflicts pain on their subs. I consider riotous behavior consistent with the belief that their behavior only seems to change when displeasure is voiced in the most extreme ways possible. It isn't that I like that, it is that they seem to keep repeating the same mistakes as the past....not listening to the players until forced to. They're turning over one stone with the new development paradigm. I'm willing to give them the chance to turn over a second with regards to responsiveness to players. If the concern continues to be ignored, well...that's another matter, of course.
I completely agree. Actions not Words
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Aryth
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.01.19 17:01:00 -
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I love how the only responses from CCP are, "We are reading it", and "We were misquoted!"
Typical communications failures we have come to expect from CCP.
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Aryth
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.01.19 17:21:00 -
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Bane Necran wrote:I urge CCP to consider how most everyone in this thread is either a current resident of 0.0 or an alt of one.
What this is really about, is stopping or at least delaying the 0.0 sov changes you are working on, by making you 'refocus' on something else that will keep the game in the doldrums of mediocrity where they continue to thrive. Gee, that sounds familiar.
I think you missed the part where we have been outlining how to rebalance null for months. POS are the one thing all EVE players can agree need to be fixed. Since, you know, not like there aren't a huge portion of them in highsec or anything.
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Aryth
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.01.19 17:32:00 -
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Bane Necran wrote:Aryth wrote:I think you missed the part where we have been outlining how to rebalance null for months. POS are the one thing all EVE players can agree need to be fixed. Since, you know, not like there aren't a huge portion of them in highsec or anything. I think you're missing how CCP said POS updates are still in the works, its just not their main focus right now. So POS changes are still upcoming, and this thread has no reason to exist, except to force CCP to make POS changes the focus, and abandon or delay a much needed 0.0 sov revamp.
I haven't missed that at all, because they haven't really said that. They have danced around the issue and won't actually say what they intend to do. Vague statements about being misquoted, or that it wasn't scrapped, does not mean we get anything this year. CCP has been talking about a POS revamp since at least 2009 that I can remember.
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