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Heimdallofasgard
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Posted - 2013.01.17 06:32:00 -
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I dont think pos's are really that important... I'd rather see a whole expansion dedicated to ring mining.
NOT!... Seriously Unifex... I hope at least a few of the more astute devs are looking at this thread right now and muttering under their breath "I told you so..."
Usually threads like this are full of nay sayers, trolls and people agreeing with ccp... But not here... Five pages in and there's unilateral agreement that this is something that needs sorting sooner, rather than later. You're going back on your word for absolutely no good reason. Kick Heim... MATE |
Heimdallofasgard
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Posted - 2013.01.17 06:33:00 -
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ArmEagle Kusoni wrote:I live in a POS and I have a problem.
Now, I took the first step. It's up to CCP to take the next.
Now ccp needs to take... Two... Step... Kick Heim... MATE |
Heimdallofasgard
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Posted - 2013.01.17 06:36:00 -
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Dorn Val wrote:First I'd like to say that I understand where CCP is coming from, but that doesn't make the knife in my back feel any better. We were PROMISED a POS revamp, and living out of POSes is one of the shittiest parts of the game. I agree with Ripard Teg -give us the ability to plant station eggs in W space.
What is it that you understand about ccps standpoint on this? Not trolling... Genuinely curious
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Heimdallofasgard
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Posted - 2013.01.17 07:05:00 -
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Quote:- What "time window" would be involved in adjusting them? This is a case of CCP managing their work programme after deciding on changes, and is really irrelavant, CCP can set a timescale, we just want them to commit
Quote:- What time windows would be involved in learning how to adjust them properly? CCP have already suggested a dual-pos system whereby as one is phased in... the other is phased out... similar to what happened with fuel blocks.
Quote:- What state would these be in until adjustments were made? "Default" security being ... upon implementation? This, and the above point are both implementation hurdles of making modular poses... we just want to see some POS love... no matter what state they're in.
Quote:- What happens to the now defunct structural layouts that *ARE* deployed? - What happens with layout changes needed to support a stronger configuration when the nearest base is ... far away?
They get phased out while the others get phased in... I.E: first have a period where both pos types co-exist... then a period where the old pos's can no longer be fueled... then eventually they go offline and eventually get deleted after a certain time period if they aren't picked up... again... this would be in the case of complete, modular pos re-design
Quote:The idea of changes do make sense and would be of benefit and value but getting there might cause mass nightmares for many outfits depending on how radical the changes are. That's why this improvement and possible re-design would more than likely take place over a number of expansions.
At this point... we only want ccp to commit to a promise of change and improvement... something which we thought they already had done, but blatantly going back on their word in this way, on something which would improve the lives of so many players... Is not only disappointing, it's one of the main reasons people end up un-subscribing. Kick Heim... MATE |
Heimdallofasgard
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Posted - 2013.01.17 07:31:00 -
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To marginalise POS users is to marginalise a LOT of players...
and to decide against implementing something which... when CCP told the CSM at last years summit they were working on... caused absolute, outright GLEE amongst them... is flat out ignoring the CSM... perhaps even going AGAINST what they think... I mean... WTF ccp!?!? Kick Heim... MATE |
Heimdallofasgard
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Posted - 2013.01.17 09:46:00 -
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Joe Widowmaker wrote:I'm starting to wonder if they're just testing the community at this point, trying to rustle our jimmies. Yes we'd like a change to poses, no I don't manage one at the moment (because they're so broken).
It is very strange that CCP would ignore and decide against implementing a feature that 99% of the entire eve community unilaterally support.
For a change, this isn't raging about something being badly implemented... like monocle gate, or unified inventory, or walking in stations, or factionwarfareLPgate, or mining barge buff etc...
This is the community getting together and saying that WE WANT something in our game. Kick Heim... MATE |
Heimdallofasgard
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Posted - 2013.01.17 09:59:00 -
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From Here
Quote:Item Count Neg Score Neg Popular Name 34 1179 7 3,047.18 11.76 25.93%Docking games fix (CSM) 28 1122 2 2,894.59 4.29 24.68%Corporation and Alliance tool overhaul (CSM) 82 1010 0 2,620.75 0.00 22.22%Overhaul of roles and grantable roles system (CSM) 143 1001 39 2,604.45 103.49 22.02%War-dec mechanics (CSM) 91 954 5 2,529.96 10.75 20.99%Remote repping and aggression (CSM) 3 919 3 2,165.76 5.36 20.22%Add the feature of switching characters without relogging. (CSM) 14 902 2 2,113.26 5.50 19.84%Black Ops Improvements (CSM) 8 895 5 2,080.09 12.03 19.69%Assault Frigates 4th Bonus (CSM) 54 750 0 2,001.42 0.00 16.50%History of who added/kick character from Corporation 76 675 0 1,847.57 0.00 14.85%More Control Over Medals (CSM) 35 787 3 1,832.17 2.77 17.31%Drone improvements (CSM) 75 763 0 1,818.80 0.00 16.78%Modular Starbase (CSM) (includes Funky POS recommendation (CSM))
Modular starbases are12th on that list... but a lot of these have already been fixed/implemented so... Kick Heim... MATE |
Heimdallofasgard
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Posted - 2013.01.17 10:02:00 -
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oh and here's this as well:
Quote:Results without Eve University (Ivy League) Votes
Item Count Neg Score Neg Popular Name 3 892 3 2,104.64 5.36 22.53%Add the feature of switching characters without relogging. (CSM) 14 889 2 2,085.54 5.50 22.45%Black Ops Improvements (CSM) 8 871 5 2,027.78 12.03 21.99%Assault Frigates 4th Bonus (CSM) 75 754 0 1,797.02 0.00 19.04%Modular Starbase (CSM) (includes Funky POS recommendation (CSM))
yes... the 4th most wanted thing behind assault frig buff (already done) blops improvement and switching characters without re-logging. Kick Heim... MATE |
Heimdallofasgard
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Posted - 2013.01.17 10:09:00 -
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Borlag Crendraven wrote:Heimdallofasgard wrote:From HereQuote:Item Count Neg Score Neg Popular Name 34 1179 7 3,047.18 11.76 25.93%Docking games fix (CSM) 28 1122 2 2,894.59 4.29 24.68%Corporation and Alliance tool overhaul (CSM) 82 1010 0 2,620.75 0.00 22.22%Overhaul of roles and grantable roles system (CSM) 143 1001 39 2,604.45 103.49 22.02%War-dec mechanics (CSM) 91 954 5 2,529.96 10.75 20.99%Remote repping and aggression (CSM) 3 919 3 2,165.76 5.36 20.22%Add the feature of switching characters without relogging. (CSM) 14 902 2 2,113.26 5.50 19.84%Black Ops Improvements (CSM) 8 895 5 2,080.09 12.03 19.69%Assault Frigates 4th Bonus (CSM) 54 750 0 2,001.42 0.00 16.50%History of who added/kick character from Corporation 76 675 0 1,847.57 0.00 14.85%More Control Over Medals (CSM) 35 787 3 1,832.17 2.77 17.31%Drone improvements (CSM) 75 763 0 1,818.80 0.00 16.78%Modular Starbase (CSM) (includes Funky POS recommendation (CSM)) Modular starbases are12th on that list... but a lot of these have already been fixed/implemented so... Except that the issues with POS's go far beyond the tower itself. From the quote you posted alone I see corporation and alliance tool overhaul including many of the issues we have with POS's, same thing with the overhaul of roles and grantable roles system.
Think I'm going to have to agree with you. There are so many different issues intertwined with pos mechanics that they need a huge overhaul and conceptualisation. Similar to what happened with crime watch last year.
If it's a case of ccp getting back to us and saying. "look, we're going to look at corp and alliance tools and roles as a pre-cursor to the pos overhaul" then at least it'd be a first step.
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Heimdallofasgard
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Posted - 2013.01.17 10:36:00 -
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diabel wrote:CCP FIX POS OR WE QUIT TO WOW
wowowowowwww...
we're not THAT desperate Kick Heim... MATE |
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Heimdallofasgard
Apex Overplayed Coalition Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2013.01.17 10:39:00 -
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Hey CCP... if you don't submit resources to working on pos mechanics for this expansion... what would they be doing instead? Kick Heim... MATE |
Heimdallofasgard
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Posted - 2013.01.17 12:22:00 -
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adahnn wrote:Fix it...and I will get on my knees.. rub the shaft... cradle the balls and swallow the gravy.
... My god... Kick Heim... MATE |
Heimdallofasgard
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Posted - 2013.01.17 13:18:00 -
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2006 CCP... it was a good idea then... it's a great idea now Kick Heim... MATE |
Heimdallofasgard
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Posted - 2013.01.17 13:24:00 -
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Kick Heim... MATE |
Heimdallofasgard
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Posted - 2013.01.17 13:33:00 -
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Heimdallofasgard
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Posted - 2013.01.17 13:39:00 -
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The Kopt wrote:I don't even know why we are posting here.
Threadnaughts are a good way to get attention when the playerbase is upset. Kick Heim... MATE |
Heimdallofasgard
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Posted - 2013.01.17 13:52:00 -
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Heimdallofasgard
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Posted - 2013.01.17 14:01:00 -
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Maybe CCP don't want to update pos's because... no-one at CCP has the faintest idea of how to use them? Kick Heim... MATE |
Heimdallofasgard
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Posted - 2013.01.17 14:10:00 -
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atomtoaster wrote:Fix Posses CCP!
Kick Heim!
:D
Edit: This is what I do when I'm in uni avoiding a deadline at 9am tomorrow morning. Kick Heim... MATE |
Heimdallofasgard
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Posted - 2013.01.17 14:35:00 -
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This pos revamp isn't just for EVE... it's for the good of mankind that you'd be conceptualizing and designing these immense structures. Kick Heim... MATE |
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Heimdallofasgard
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Posted - 2013.01.17 15:02:00 -
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MainDrain wrote:@CCP_Unifex Do I want a new modular POS system? No. Do I need to manage it easily? Yes. Please iterate - we've been patient! #tweetfleet
CCP Unifex GÇÅ@CCP_Unifex @RussellBarnes78 That's the key way to look at this.
This is a copy paste from twitter, and looks to be the first response to this issue from Unifex (i could be wrong and if i am i'm sorry)
This to me shows that although a whole new re-design would be bad in terms of the money and time required iteration and improvements of use is something that are happy with doing.
Or he's found the one person on earth who agrees with him. Unifex has gone back on his word about "pos's can't be iterated upon"... he needs to go all the way here... modular pos's are just too good to pass up on.
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Heimdallofasgard
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Posted - 2013.01.17 15:11:00 -
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Link to tweet from RussellBarnes, responded to by Unifex. Kick Heim... MATE |
Heimdallofasgard
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Posted - 2013.01.17 16:21:00 -
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HEY GUYS! DUELING DEV BLOG JUST OUT!
LOOKS PRETTY GOOD! Kick Heim... MATE |
Heimdallofasgard
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Posted - 2013.01.17 16:40:00 -
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They've got sound reasoning behind it. just hope it's not going to be at the expense of more security in high sec :S
FIX POS'S Kick Heim... MATE |
Heimdallofasgard
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Posted - 2013.01.17 22:43:00 -
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OI!
Capsuleers!
What do you think this is? GD?! Kick Heim... MATE |
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