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Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
2102
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Posted - 2013.01.18 09:03:00 -
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I'm sometimes the carebear and sometimes the rabid variety... I fail to see the problem vOv |

Yim Sei
Ontogenic Achronycal PLC
35
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Posted - 2013.01.18 09:04:00 -
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Please delete - fat fingers fiu. Post with my main? This is my main - I just overtrain and overplay my alts. |

Zol Interbottom
Nanotrasen Inc
133
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Posted - 2013.01.18 09:10:00 -
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Dheeradj Nurgle wrote:Randolph Rothstein wrote:i have no interest in pvp (fighting pvp,market pvp is what im looking for) in eve yet i have more than 10 000 frags in wot over 4 months am i carebear or not?  Calling something a Frag outside of UT is just sad....
Flak Monkey?
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Princess Saskia
Hyperfleet Industries
32
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Posted - 2013.01.18 09:14:00 -
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There is a way that these people can get over their inhabitions? There is somthing called the test server where people can go and just shoot stuf. with it costing 100isk for everything. Why are people unable to make full use of the tools that CCP provide us with!?
/Princess |

Kiteo Hatto
Equanimity Order
772
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Posted - 2013.01.18 09:16:00 -
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Princess Saskia wrote:There is a way that these people can get over their inhabitions? There is somthing called the test server where people can go and just shoot stuf. with it costing 100isk for everything. Why are people unable to make full use of the tools that CCP provide us with!?
/Princess
Cause' it feels "fake". Eve is real, Sisi(or whatever its called now) is not :P "That's okay it annoys me when people pile on new definitions to the word sandbox every time CCP does something they don't like." - Alara IonStorm GD is where 60% of threads make you dumber and 10% which provide you with entertainment, the remaining 30% is a mix of both. |

Psychotic Monk
The Skunkworks
528
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Posted - 2013.01.18 09:17:00 -
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Tarvos Telesto wrote:Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:Or they can wait for their balls to descend fully before playing Eve I dont agree with you, meny people got big balz in RL some of them got dangerus jobs, sex, family etc, but for some reason they avoid pvp maybe because they afraid to lose isk or somthig like this, while other nerds who focus on pvp feels like bad as because they pvp in online game, why you generalize everyone. Sory for this brutal example but deal with it, being wannable bad as in game dosent make you mature brave man.
The opposite is also true. Being a badass pvper doesn't mean you aren't awesome in real life and being a carebear doesn't mean you are awesome in real life.
As for the shakes, yes, everybody got them at some point. I still occasionally get them. Not too often, but it happens. And I don't doubt there are people that get physiological reactions so bad that they actually can't pvp. I sincerely doubt this is the majority of carebears.
My personal theory on the subject is that one of the largest barriers is lack of initiative. So many people can't be bothered to learn how to fit a ship for combat, much less learn the many things that go into being a good pvper. Or if they learn those things, they can't be bothered to step out of their comfort zone to go find some violence to do. Even good pvpers are guilty of this. They want an FC to bring them to the violence, rather than seek it themselves.
I understand. I'm often lazy, too. Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement. |

Solarienne
Wiyrkomi Honor Guard
26
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Posted - 2013.01.18 10:05:00 -
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Personally, the thought of violence, even a digital variety, makes me so filled with revulsion that deep nausea is the best case, bent-double vomiting is the worst.
Alas, I have the misfortune of having a slave driving CEO, who has forced me and my fair carebear brethren into faction warfare. For those of you opposed to violence with a similar reaction, I suggest nose plugs, a feedbag and not eating for 24hrs before a potential pvp encounter. If pvp should occur within that 24 hr period, you will understand why you are wearing the former two items.
((Truth be told, fine with pvp, saw thread title, assumed obscure disability based post with possibly interesting stories of overcoming adversity [I have had several deaf FC's in the past who typed with the speed of the wind and led us to victory, for example]. Unfortunately, yet another baseless Daily Mail tripe OP with the 'GD greatest hits' playing in the replies. 2/10)) |

Nerath Naaris
Pink Winged Unicorns for Peace Love and Anarchy
344
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Posted - 2013.01.18 11:27:00 -
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Well, I went into my first PvP fights with the intent to get blown up; not just accepting the possibility to have it happen but as the goal. I believe this mental trick helped me a lot since no matter what would happen I would "win" in either case. Also, I would not describe it as "freezing up" as being physically unable to do something, more like forgetting absolutely everything you might have mentally rehearsed before (which results in the same, though)
Though after half a dozen fights (losses) I calmed down and remembered to overheat, launch Drones, get some situational awareness ect. so I believe it is really just a matter of routine... Forum-unbanned since 2011.10.20.
Mangala Solaris for CSM 8 |

Corey Fumimasa
The Advent of Faith
10
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Posted - 2013.01.18 11:37:00 -
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Kiteo Hatto wrote:Princess Saskia wrote:There is a way that these people can get over their inhabitions? There is somthing called the test server where people can go and just shoot stuf. with it costing 100isk for everything. Why are people unable to make full use of the tools that CCP provide us with!?
/Princess Cause' it feels "fake". Eve is real, Sisi(or whatever its called now) is not :P
They don't want to get over their inhibitions. Nor should the sandbox force them to.
There should be more options in Eve to destroy things. Maybe one that the bears will actually like engaging with. Maybe viral engineering POS's that when active cause random systems failures to combat mods in the system.
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TigerXtrm
Cold Lazarus Inc.. Black Thorne Alliance
54
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Posted - 2013.01.18 12:26:00 -
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Industry won't survive without PVP and PVP won't survive without industry. Simple fact. I don't get why people get hung up on what someone else does in a space game. The people who mine and build and stuff like that are the same people who may prefer a city builder or simulator above a shooter or RTS. More into organizing than blowing things up.
So how about we just respect each others choices and realize that one can not exist without the other. People tend to forget a lot around here. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQMIxAKqsUA |
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ISD TYPE40
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
3948

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Posted - 2013.01.18 12:46:00 -
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Forum Rules wrote:
7. Trolling is prohibited.
Trolling is the word used to describe a post that is deliberately designed for the purpose of angering and insulting the players. Posts of this nature are disruptive and do not contribute to the sense of community we want for our forums.
Thread has been cleaned of off topic and troll posts as per the above rule - ISD Type40. ISD Type40 Lt. Commander Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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KIller Wabbit
The Scope Gallente Federation
314
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Posted - 2013.01.18 13:09:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:I think CCP should fly around and randomly gank people who have never been killed, just to show them that this game is made for PvPers for PvP purposes.
They do! Their ships are fairly stealthy but most people recognize them when they turn up. Do an info on "bugs"
CCP Punkturis-á "I want to get in on the goodposter circle jerk!"
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Diesel47
Bad Men Ltd.
456
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Posted - 2013.01.18 13:20:00 -
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Lyell Wolf wrote:From my perspective,
I seriously dislike PvP. Not because I can't, mind you, but because I just hate the idea as a whole. This, of course, has led me to be less experienced than most of the PvPers out there. I don't have, as you call it, the training to perform as well as the others.
Now, it wouldn't take years to gain a decent skill in PvP, but perhaps a couple months.
As far as "Getting over that reflex", a week.
From, A carebear
This does not make sense to me. |

Ptraci
3 R Corporation The Irukandji
1204
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Posted - 2013.01.18 13:27:00 -
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Clementina wrote:I'm going to let the carebears here in on a little secret.
PvPers get afraid during combat too.
No, not really "afraid". Generally you reach a point where you are able to recognize a no win situation before it happens and try to take as many with you as you can before you go down. No one likes taking a loss because it probably means having to take the time to buy and re-fit a ship, or having to take the time grinding up the isk if it's a shiny ship. But I really wouldn't call that "fear". More like just "oh crap! lol! die die die die die aaaaaaaargh warp warp warp warp..... lol well at least I got that xxxx into structure" etc.
The PvPers know that victory is always possible. The care-bear believes destruction is the only outcome. |

Doc Severiide
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
17
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Posted - 2013.01.18 13:37:00 -
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Bane Necran wrote:It's true, all of it.
I was horribly traumatized by my first gank, now whenever someone targets me my mind just freezes up and i can only think "IT'S ALL HAPPENING AGAIN!". I run away from the keyboard and start rocking back and forth in the corner, only returning to the computer screen hours later when i gather the courage. Sounds like my experiences. Except I also pee my pants and occassionaly crap them too. That's why I have a case of adult diapers sitting beside my PC. Once I even got admitted to the hospital while babbling "Don't fly what you can't afford to lose". The ER Doctor says "Shut up newb"... |

Tommas De'Wins
Galactic Association of Space Potatoes Session Change In Progress Alliance
1
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Posted - 2013.01.18 13:39:00 -
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Corey Fumimasa wrote:IGÇÖve talked with a few carebears over the years and I have come to believe that they canGÇÖt PvP. Not because they donGÇÖt want to kill the griefers and gankers, but because combat is just not something they want to participate in.
Could there be more options for destroying things in Eve? Some non-dogfight in game mechanic that allows ISK to be blown up? Maybe something that bear style players would enjoy doing.
Like building viral POS's that destroy random combat modules on any ship that is in their system. Or being able to produce faulty modules and sell them on the open market (at a loss of course). Or self destruct ships that are like mega smart bombs!
I don't mind being wrong here, just a thought I had that I can't seem to shake. Any feedback is appreciated.
They are playing the wrong game .... |

Seven Koskanaiken
Open University of Celestial Hardship Art of War Alliance
119
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Posted - 2013.01.18 13:50:00 -
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there's no difference between pvp and mining both is just a series of actions carried out on a computer screen
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Corey Fumimasa
The Advent of Faith
11
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Posted - 2013.01.18 13:51:00 -
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Are sigs HTML or BBcode? or something else entirely? <a href="http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLQVa8byuQ5b_U5fnb3myiSAFy8TamEMH_&feature=view_all">This</a> is a youtube playlist of me going over my first 30 ship losses. Video sucks but the audio came out well. If your new to the game there are some good lessons, and if your old to the game there's some funny stories. |

Seven Koskanaiken
Open University of Celestial Hardship Art of War Alliance
119
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Posted - 2013.01.18 14:06:00 -
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Corey Fumimasa wrote:A game that elicits the kind of physical reaction that I have felt in Eve is a very rare thing. It is perhaps CCP's greatest achievement, and perhaps one of the most important dynamics ever developed re computer simulations.
This feeling must be respected and encouraged and fostered by the player base.
My theory is because it mimicks the hunting that ancient humans did, and its one of the only few times in modern life the flight or flight response actually gets used |

Corey Fumimasa
The Advent of Faith
11
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Posted - 2013.01.18 14:14:00 -
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Seven Koskanaiken wrote:there's no difference between pvp and mining both is just a series of actions carried out on a computer screen
This is the most pointless and demonstrably untrue statement that I have ever seen with a name next to it.
This is a youtube playlist going over my first 30 ship losses. Video sucks but the audio came out well.There are some good lessons, and if you know the game there's some funny stories. |

Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
4259
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Posted - 2013.01.18 14:43:00 -
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/Nova Fox points at cost of his clone*
The reason why I do not ever pvp anymore is that the rate I incurr Isk. To replace my clone would take me a year or so of work.
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Rek Seven
DEEP-SPACE CO-OP LTD Exhale.
586
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Posted - 2013.01.18 14:48:00 -
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What? how much does your clone cost? Why i play EVE:-á20% for gameplay experience, 30% for the social aspect and 50% because of CCPGÇÖs empty promises.-á |

Seven Koskanaiken
Open University of Celestial Hardship Art of War Alliance
119
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Posted - 2013.01.18 14:50:00 -
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Corey Fumimasa wrote:Seven Koskanaiken wrote:there's no difference between pvp and mining both is just a series of actions carried out on a computer screen
This is the most pointless and demonstrably untrue statement that I have ever seen with a name next to it.
its only untrue in your mind
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Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
480
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Posted - 2013.01.18 14:52:00 -
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Posting in another carebear hate thread.
Increasing my post ratting is good !!
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Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
4259
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Posted - 2013.01.18 14:53:00 -
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Total? Body alone is 100 millilon. Implants 500+ million depending the location and markets.
None the less its not alot for some active players, but with college and the sorts I have been rather busy and focused on school and only have time to mess around with PI and small scale manufacutring, 600 million takes a while boding my time ensuring that my investments are not collaspable.
However every so often I do roll an alt for the sole purpose of retribution as well as getting others intersesting in pvp and they have a far more impressive kill records. Biggest kill so far was an officer fit megathron a few years back.
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Rek Seven
DEEP-SPACE CO-OP LTD Exhale.
586
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Posted - 2013.01.18 14:54:00 -
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Seven Koskanaiken wrote:Corey Fumimasa wrote:Seven Koskanaiken wrote:there's no difference between pvp and mining both is just a series of actions carried out on a computer screen
This is the most pointless and demonstrably untrue statement that I have ever seen with a name next to it. its only untrue in your mind
No it's a fact. Clicking a button to active your mining lasers is infinitely different than competing with a human being. Why i play EVE:-á20% for gameplay experience, 30% for the social aspect and 50% because of CCPGÇÖs empty promises.-á |

Rek Seven
DEEP-SPACE CO-OP LTD Exhale.
586
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Posted - 2013.01.18 14:57:00 -
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Nova Fox wrote:Total? Body alone is 100 millilon. Implants 500+ million depending the location and markets.
None the less its not alot for some active players, but with college and the sorts I have been rather busy and focused on school and only have time to mess around with PI and small scale manufacutring, 600 million takes a while boding my time ensuring that my investments are not collaspable.
However every so often I do roll an alt for the sole purpose of retribution as well as getting others intersesting in pvp and they have a far more impressive kill records. Biggest kill so far was an officer fit megathron a few years back.
Well considering that jump clones exist, the actual cost should only be around 100 mill. I don't thing that is a lot for a 6 -7 year old player.
Is it really that hard to avoid being podded?
Why i play EVE:-á20% for gameplay experience, 30% for the social aspect and 50% because of CCPGÇÖs empty promises.-á |

Corey Fumimasa
The Advent of Faith
14
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Posted - 2013.01.18 14:59:00 -
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Seven Koskanaiken wrote:Corey Fumimasa wrote:Seven Koskanaiken wrote:there's no difference between pvp and mining both is just a series of actions carried out on a computer screen
This is the most pointless and demonstrably untrue statement that I have ever seen with a name next to it. its only untrue in your mind You are not some kind of monk who has been contemplating life in a cave for decades. By your "logic" doing my taxes, watching ****, playing eve, and writing reports for work are all the same. They are not. They don't have the same results either in my mind or in RL. So you go smoke some more blue moss or whatever, but don't expect a lot of encouragement for your self obsessed drivel.
This is a youtube playlist going over my first 30 ship losses. Video sucks but the audio came out well.There are some good lessons, and if you know the game there's some funny stories. |

Seven Koskanaiken
Open University of Celestial Hardship Art of War Alliance
119
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Posted - 2013.01.18 15:00:00 -
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Corey Fumimasa wrote:Seven Koskanaiken wrote:Corey Fumimasa wrote:Seven Koskanaiken wrote:there's no difference between pvp and mining both is just a series of actions carried out on a computer screen
This is the most pointless and demonstrably untrue statement that I have ever seen with a name next to it. its only untrue in your mind You are not some kind of monk who has been contemplating life in a cave for decades. By your "logic" doing my taxes, watching ****, playing eve, and writing reports for work are all the same. They are not. They don't have the same results either in my mind or in RL. So you go smoke some more blue moss or whatever, but don't expect a lot of encouragement for your self obsessed drivel.
lol fine is true though, go and try it or dont whatever, your game |

Ptraci
3 R Corporation The Irukandji
1204
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Posted - 2013.01.18 15:04:00 -
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Nova Fox wrote:/Nova Fox points at cost of his clone*
The reason why I do not ever pvp anymore is that the rate I incurr Isk. To replace my clone would take me a year or so of work.
Eve Board says you have at most 120-odd million isk. Clones for you cost 45 million isk. You are going to tell me that you can't do that in an hour or two? |
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