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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2005.06.30 09:34:00 -
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Dont misunderstand Maxine.
I woud love to see pve content geared for dreads as part of a group effort.
But as it is,the current content would be made farcical with them and as such they need to be excluded from it. _______________________________________________
Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues. |

Reptar
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Posted - 2005.06.30 09:35:00 -
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Signed 
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Reptar
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Posted - 2005.06.30 09:35:00 -
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Edited by: Reptar on 30/06/2005 09:35:06 Bleh double post
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KIATolon
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Posted - 2005.06.30 10:02:00 -
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I will rally together the extra rich mission runners, and all 200 of them will do missions in niya in their dreads...
What are you gunna do about that?
:D
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Maxine Stirner
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Posted - 2005.06.30 10:06:00 -
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Originally by: Rod Blaine Dont misunderstand Maxine.
I woud love to see pve content geared for dreads as part of a group effort.
But as it is,the current content would be made farcical with them and as such they need to be excluded from it.
Ideally, the content soloable by Dreads would not be enough to maintain upkeep or operational costs. Ironically, it is primarilly PvPers who oppose upkeep costs or other deployment limiting characteristics on capital ships.
Hmm.. maybe with the new Empire conflict changes we can see Amarr Dreads, and possibly (hopefully) even BS, declared contraband in Minmie space? I'd ban the bpcs too, or ban them in their home regions as license fraud instead. I'd want to wait for more infrastructure first, or preferable, player-built infrastructure.
Locking Times & Evil Asteroids |

Takrolimus
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Posted - 2005.06.30 10:32:00 -
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No Acceleration gates should be passable. No smaller weapons should be *****ble
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Elve Sorrow
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Posted - 2005.06.30 10:35:00 -
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***** = swearing 0.o
Signed btw.
/Elve
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3GG H34D
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Posted - 2005.06.30 10:39:00 -
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Originally by: Elve Sorrow ***** = swearing 0.o
***** = kitty (derogatory version)
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aggro
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Posted - 2005.06.30 10:43:00 -
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i will personally kill anyone i see using a dread for mining.
Where there is trouble you will always find AGGRO |

gr8razorx
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Posted - 2005.06.30 10:51:00 -
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For me the forums are to read not to write. BUT tbfh anyone using a dread for pve should be kick banned from the game indefinatly.
Of course this is my opinion but i am sure alot of you share it.
Consider this a signed
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Vaygr
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Posted - 2005.06.30 11:02:00 -
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Aren't lvl 4 agents being moved out to 0.0 space with this patch? If thats the case I don't see what the problem using a dread to solo lvl 4 missions in if your risking your 1.5 billion isk ship to do it in. As for the lvl 3 agents left in empire well it would be more effective to use battleships for those.
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Gungankllr
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Posted - 2005.06.30 11:12:00 -
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TBH they bought the damn thing, let them use it any damn way they please.
Like the original poster said, if you don't like it, you can always wardec them.
But just because they want to use a 5 Billion ISK Caldari Dreadnought firing Citadel Torpedos to kill Guristas Arrogators, that's their business.
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Laocoon
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Posted - 2005.06.30 11:12:00 -
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if people wanna use their ****off great-big ship to do PvE, then why the hell not? Like someone (i forget who) said, the money from missions got wont be enough to upkeep its operation. hell, the crystals for the gigapulse lasers will be horrendously expensive, and the cost of ammo for the other dreads will prob cost more/mission than the mission payout itself!
If someone's gonna go find a BS spawn in 0.0 and capm it with 2 dreads then... they're a**holes as much as the ppl who camp spawns in BSs.
But simply; missions runners will be be ABLE TO AFFORD to a) buy a dread, and b) keep a dread!
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Laocoon
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Posted - 2005.06.30 11:15:00 -
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yeh what ^ he said
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Sobeseki Pawi
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Posted - 2005.06.30 12:09:00 -
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What a silly idea. OMG if any of you use a Titan for PvP, I'ma mine your EYE. 
~Sobe |

DrunkenOne
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Posted - 2005.06.30 13:22:00 -
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**** wars. If anyone uses them for missions jusit get 50 people in suicide caracels and all suicide it at the same time. I doubt even a dread can withstand 250 heavys hitting it at once, and some of the caras might survive for a 2nd volley 
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Marruni
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Posted - 2005.06.30 13:30:00 -
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Originally by: Laocoon yeh what ^ he said
Man your sig is annoying lol |

Drilla
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Posted - 2005.06.30 13:35:00 -
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Signed.
- *** pure moinage ***
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Namelesz
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Posted - 2005.06.30 13:38:00 -
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Signed. triple stamped, no erasies!
"EVE Online - even the forums have PVP" - Oveur
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Stormfront
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Posted - 2005.06.30 13:50:00 -
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Go in through gate, kill all the BS.. fly back the 10 AU on regular thrusters while tanking the 10-15 cruisers that are shooting you.
Sounds like fun ! 
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Selim
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Posted - 2005.06.30 13:57:00 -
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Signed, unless there is new PvE that requires a large group effort to do, where a dread would be needed.
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Cosmic Dragon
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Posted - 2005.06.30 14:04:00 -
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I wonder if capital ships will be useful for level 5 missions
Beauty Is In The Eye Of The Beer Holder!!! |

Belian
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Posted - 2005.06.30 14:47:00 -
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Signed.
 Shinra Vid |

Anjerrai Meloanis
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Posted - 2005.06.30 14:54:00 -
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Edited by: Anjerrai Meloanis on 30/06/2005 14:54:45 Why is it ppl complain about agent *****s when the best agents are in 0.0? ppl complain about how mining is so lame as well, and all ppl want to do really is attack defenceless miners, so its no wonder ppl move on the running agents so at least they can fire back against someone trying to kill them..
Ah right, Rens is high security space...
Signed then, if rens ends up being full of 50 dreads outside the brutor station doing missions ill cry :( uh.
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Cosmic Dragon
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Posted - 2005.06.30 15:00:00 -
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I support dreads doing missions its up to the player who owns one what he or she does with it he spent time and money getting it after all amd this is a mmo so its not up to you what he does but.....
If i see 50+ dreads in one system like rens grinding level 4 missions and later level 5 then i might sign up with killing all mission running dreads, as i dont want one i prefer the freighter or the carrier
Beauty Is In The Eye Of The Beer Holder!!! |

Matthew
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Posted - 2005.06.30 15:10:00 -
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Well, I thought I'd seen enough by now to no longer be surprised by the self-righteous, arrogant, elitist snobbery in some parts of the PvP community, but this has managed to do it.
This pact can basicaly be summarised as the following:
Sign me if you agree to destroy anyone who doesn't play Eve the way you want them to. Sign me if you think game balance is better achieved by PvP bully boys imposing their vision than the devs designing the game to meet theirs.
Just how good do you think dreads are gonna be at lvl4 missions anyway? Battleships work ok in under-sized missions because you can fit a massive rack of undersized weaponry. The Dread can't do that. If it drops to a smaller sized gun, it's guaranteed to have considerably less damage output than a ship of that gun size could manage (maybe except for frigs, where they could equal it). And as for using drones, sure, it has a drone bay, but if the screenies I saw were correct, it's significantly smaller than on an equivalent battleship, so that's not much help. It may fry the battleships in the mission easily, but it'll take much, much longer than a battleship would to plough through the cruisers and frigs, if it can at all. The only thing the dread has going for it in this situation is that it can tank massively. Which isn't a great problem. The better tank reduces the risk of running the mission, but in turn the dread takes a lot longer to actually do the mission, so reward per time goes down to match the decreased risk. So all in all, solo-ing level4's in dread won't be all that great anyway.
Of course, as part of a group, it would be a different matter, Dread+HAC pairing could be particularly potent. But then again, 2 or more people can do level 4's easily anyway, so that won't really change anything. And it encourages group PvE, which would be a good thing.
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Siroc
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Posted - 2005.06.30 15:37:00 -
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won't be surprized if people making mining plans on Dreads already. Mining in 0.0 while tanking multibattleship spawn :)
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Weirda
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Posted - 2005.06.30 15:50:00 -
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Originally by: Maxine Stirner
Hmm.. maybe with the new Empire conflict changes we can see Amarr Dreads, and possibly (hopefully) even BS, declared contraband in Minmie space? I'd ban the bpcs too, or ban them in their home regions as license fraud instead. I'd want to wait for more infrastructure first, or preferable, player-built infrastructure.
Interesting idea... was alluded at one of the news item (Caldari warship docking in Republic Fleet station or somesuch). Will definatley be interesting to see what they choose to limit our travel, etc...
It may become where ppl go to 0.0 just so they can stop getting hassled by "THE MAN"...  -- Thread Killer
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Bhaal
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Posted - 2005.06.30 15:52:00 -
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Edited by: Bhaal on 30/06/2005 15:52:35 PPL can use whatever ship they deem fit for whatever task they want.
I don't get the obsession some of you have with carebears using Dreads...
Maybe you need to learn to mind your own buisness...
If you want to war dec them all, I guess there is nothing stopping you.
Have fun on your crusade... ------------------------------------------------ "for piece sakes!" |

Vanesa Garcia
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Posted - 2005.06.30 16:02:00 -
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Originally by: Takrolimus
To Summarize: Sign this if you agree to destroy ANYONE who uses Dreads to PvE.[/b]
Take a pill, will you? ( Most arrogant and insulting post to date ) How about I sign to ban your account on the bases of harassment?
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