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Silivar Karkun Electronic Research Team Ing 30	Posted - 2013.01.20 20:35:00 - [61] - Quote Romvex wrote: Silivar Karkun wrote: Stegas Tyrano wrote: This would be awesome> Is it still ingame? yeah, he just got revampe in V3 graphics, but all the traditional ships for the pirate factions still exist, the Ixion, the Medusa, etc.. according to Gogela's every ship page it's been removed, and i've never seen it before anyway they got a graphic revamp, i only know the angel ships http://freebooted.blogspot.com/2011/11/mysteries-of-new-eden-pirate-ships.html look at here for the info in the revamp of the Angel Ships: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=136123
Gogela Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance 2230	Posted - 2013.01.20 20:36:00 - [62] - Quote Romvex wrote: Silivar Karkun wrote: Stegas Tyrano wrote: This would be awesome> Is it still ingame? yeah, he just got revampe in V3 graphics, but all the traditional ships for the pirate factions still exist, the Ixion, the Medusa, etc.. according to Gogela's every ship page it's been removed, and i've never seen it before anyway No it's still there... the ones in black are just ships that are only available to Devs. (You won't find it amongst the frigs b/c on TQ it's classified as a cruiser) You can still pull up the stats by clicking on the ship in your in-game browser. My list represents the TQ database... not SiSi Every Ship in GëíGêçGëí \| [FX7] \| Vote Cthulhu 2012
Romvex 442	Posted - 2013.01.20 20:44:00 - [63] - Quote Gogela wrote: Romvex wrote: Silivar Karkun wrote: Stegas Tyrano wrote: This would be awesome> Is it still ingame? yeah, he just got revampe in V3 graphics, but all the traditional ships for the pirate factions still exist, the Ixion, the Medusa, etc.. according to Gogela's every ship page it's been removed, and i've never seen it before anyway No it's still there... the ones in black are just ships that are only available to Devs. (You won't find it amongst the frigs b/c on TQ it's classified as a cruiser) You can still pull up the stats by clicking on the ship in your in-game browser. My list represents the TQ database... not SiSi Ah i see it, just has the red crossbones and skull saying removed from database. Can't seem to pull up info in IGB either (a¦á_a¦á) ~ Post With Your Main-á ~ (a¦á_a¦á)
Gogela Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance 2230	Posted - 2013.01.20 21:37:00 - [64] - Quote Romvex wrote: Gogela wrote: Romvex wrote: Silivar Karkun wrote: Stegas Tyrano wrote: This would be awesome> Is it still ingame? yeah, he just got revampe in V3 graphics, but all the traditional ships for the pirate factions still exist, the Ixion, the Medusa, etc.. according to Gogela's every ship page it's been removed, and i've never seen it before anyway No it's still there... the ones in black are just ships that are only available to Devs. (You won't find it amongst the frigs b/c on TQ it's classified as a cruiser) You can still pull up the stats by clicking on the ship in your in-game browser. My list represents the TQ database... not SiSi Ah i see it, just has the red crossbones and skull saying removed from database. Can't seem to pull up info in IGB either $%& #@@!!!!! Yah my bad you are right. They took it out of the TQ DB! Gah. Bummer. Sorry. The list is right I was wrong... :/ Every Ship in GëíGêçGëí \| [FX7] \| Vote Cthulhu 2012
Stegas Tyrano GLU CANU Open Space Consultancy 150	Posted - 2013.01.20 22:59:00 - [65] - Quote NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooo.............. [PROPOSAL] INGAME ADVERTS FOR PLAYERS
Arkenai Wyrnspire Turalyon Plus 3	Posted - 2013.01.20 23:15:00 - [66] - Quote Violator is sexy. Those bonuses.
Streya Jormagdnir Alexylva Paradox 103	Posted - 2013.01.20 23:31:00 - [67] - Quote Echo bonuses also looks very nice. It would be one of the few T1 ships in the game with a small projectile falloff bonus. I beg of CCP to let us use these things, rather than have them be some sort of one-time gift. We Are Tomorrow
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 2393	Posted - 2013.01.21 00:53:00 - [68] - Quote One thing that would really help PVP and faction warfare would be specifically combat capable rookie ships for member of FW militias. As it is now, for everybody, you lose a ship or dock in a pod, you get a free rookie ship. Not much you can do with a rookie ship (unless you are a drone boat leetmeiser fielding 2 T2 drones from a velly and giving short-timers a shock) in FW, but it would probably be a good incentive for FW when they get combat frigates for being in FW. Just a thought.
Romvex 443	Posted - 2013.01.21 01:40:00 - [69] - Quote Stegas Tyrano wrote: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooo.............. yo dude i thought the same thing (a¦á_a¦á) ~ Post With Your Main-á ~ (a¦á_a¦á)
Stegas Tyrano GLU CANU Open Space Consultancy 150	Posted - 2013.01.21 18:02:00 - [70] - Quote The Ixion has been V3'd Please give it an Artillery/Railgun Bonus and a nice Tracking Link bonus [PROPOSAL] INGAME ADVERTS FOR PLAYERS

Romvex 444	Posted - 2013.01.21 18:04:00 - [71] - Quote Stegas Tyrano wrote: The Ixion has been V3'd Please give it an Artillery/Railgun Bonus and a nice Tracking Link bonus EDIT: Blog it was taken from 2nd EDIT: Not V3'd but just a premium client model. that is assuming they're making it flyable. and why a hybrid bonus? (a¦á_a¦á) ~ Post With Your Main-á ~ (a¦á_a¦á)
Stegas Tyrano GLU CANU Open Space Consultancy 150	Posted - 2013.01.21 18:12:00 - [72] - Quote Romvex wrote: Stegas Tyrano wrote: The Ixion has been V3'd Please give it an Artillery/Railgun Bonus and a nice Tracking Link bonus EDIT: Blog it was taken from 2nd EDIT: Not V3'd but just a premium client model. that is assuming they're making it flyable. and why a hybrid bonus? and a link bonus used on logis? Does it use projectiles? Artillery then. The link bonus is there for err because it's different and because they took it off the scythe [PROPOSAL] INGAME ADVERTS FOR PLAYERS
Romvex 444	Posted - 2013.01.21 18:15:00 - [73] - Quote Stegas Tyrano wrote: Romvex wrote: Stegas Tyrano wrote: The Ixion has been V3'd Please give it an Artillery/Railgun Bonus and a nice Tracking Link bonus EDIT: Blog it was taken from 2nd EDIT: Not V3'd but just a premium client model. that is assuming they're making it flyable. and why a hybrid bonus? and a link bonus used on logis? Does it use projectiles? Artillery then. The link bonus is there for err because it's different and because they took it off the scythe interesting idea, like a faction logi sort of Although with any of the currently unflyable angel ships, the stats would have to be overhauled. The medusa has speed less than half that of a battleship, the ixion has 1 lowslot and the lynx is just an overall awful ship based n the stats. also i would want more frigs and cruisers for other pirate factions as well to balance it out (a¦á_a¦á) ~ Post With Your Main-á ~ (a¦á_a¦á)
Ranger 1 Ranger Corp 3379	Posted - 2013.01.21 19:14:00 - [74] - Quote It would be interesting if this was the theme for the next series of expansions... namely Pirates vs The Man. Players able to bring in new characters aligned with the different Pirate factions vs Faction Militia pilots... with access to properly balanced versions of their ships available for our consumption. Perhaps even including freeing stations (and whole systems) from Faction control and docking regulations, and possibly involving the ability to shift security status of disputed systems up and down. It's been hinted at, it would be nice to see it done in this fashion. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base.
Gogela Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance 2242	Posted - 2013.01.21 21:33:00 - [75] - Quote Stegas Tyrano wrote: The Ixion has been V3'd Please give it an Artillery/Railgun Bonus and a nice Tracking Link bonus EDIT: Blog it was taken from 2nd EDIT: Not V3'd but just a premium client model. There is still the model in the TQ database for that (used for NPC ships), but not the player flyable ship. If you get on some of the development builds (sisi or buckingham) some of the ship in red on my list will pull up a player flyable ship's stats. I don't know why that is or how that works. A few expansions ago CCP Greyscale went on a tear removing 'unused' stuff from the TQ database and with that went the ships. This was never applied to the development servers though. Don't ask me how that's even possible I don't know. That said, concord cruisers, the Ixion, and even the Infested Dominix could still be pulled up for many builds after the TQ purge. I don't know if that's still the case, I haven't tested it recently. I don't generally remove the link or itemID from my ship list when they remove a ship from the TQ database, so if it's still there the link should work in the test client. Maybe they'll bring it back at some point? You could check sisi to find out... Every Ship in GëíGêçGëí \| [FX7] \| Vote Cthulhu 2012
Streya Jormagdnir Alexylva Paradox 106	Posted - 2013.01.23 14:41:00 - [76] - Quote Has there been any comment from CCP regarding these things? Really eager to hear what they have to say about em! I am also a human, straggling between the present world... and our future. I am a regulator, a coordinator, one who is meant to guide the way.
bufnitza calatoare Nex Angelus. Unclaimed. 59	Posted - 2013.01.23 21:28:00 - [77] - Quote I think its safe to say with 99.99% certainty that the Gnosis will be a tourney ship. god knows what 2nd prize will be. pirate rookie ships for 10th eve birthday pressies to the populace.
Gogela Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance 2259	Posted - 2013.01.23 21:57:00 - [78] - Quote bufnitza calatoare wrote: I think its safe to say with 99.99% certainty that the Gnosis will be a tourney ship. god knows what 2nd prize will be. pirate rookie ships for 10th eve birthday pressies to the populace. I think that you are wrong about the Gnosis, for 3 main reasons. 1) Apotheosis for 5th. Gnosis for 10th. Same ship line and works w/ the lore. 2) Everyone is testing the Gnosis on sisi. CCP is seeking feedback and really trying to balance it into the game's ecosystem. That's not something they do with limited 50-run tourny ships. 3) The logical next iteration of faction warfare is to take it to the pirate factions. CCP has been talking about that since the inception of FW. That would be the vector for distributing pirate rookie ships. Either that or letting people choose a pirate bloodline when they create a character (also a possibility). Every Ship in GëíGêçGëí \| [FX7] \| Vote Cthulhu 2012
Streya Jormagdnir Alexylva Paradox 110	Posted - 2013.01.24 16:21:00 - [79] - Quote Gogela wrote: [quote=bufnitza calatoare] 3) The logical next iteration of faction warfare is to take it to the pirate factions. CCP has been talking about that since the inception of FW. That would be the vector for distributing pirate rookie ships. Either that or letting people choose a pirate bloodline when they create a character (also a possibility). I wonder how that will work? Where will the pirate militias fight? Will they be at war with all the hisec empires (and thus pirate militia pilots will get shot at from the navies in hisec)? It will certainly be interesting to see! I am also a human, straggling between the present world... and our future. I am a regulator, a coordinator, one who is meant to guide the way.
Ranger 1 Ranger Corp 3394	Posted - 2013.01.24 16:54:00 - [80] - Quote Streya Jormagdnir wrote: Gogela wrote: [quote=bufnitza calatoare] 3) The logical next iteration of faction warfare is to take it to the pirate factions. CCP has been talking about that since the inception of FW. That would be the vector for distributing pirate rookie ships. Either that or letting people choose a pirate bloodline when they create a character (also a possibility). I wonder how that will work? Where will the pirate militias fight? Will they be at war with all the hisec empires (and thus pirate militia pilots will get shot at from the navies in hisec)? It will certainly be interesting to see! I imagine that they will fight in the same systems as FW currently does, but if they win it simply free's them from Faction control. In a sense they could call themselves Freedom Fighters instead of Pirates... which would be true, from a certain point of view. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base.

Berluth Luthian 14th Legion Black Core Alliance 36	Posted - 2013.01.24 20:21:00 - [81] - Quote So the pirate rookie frigates look like great orbital bombardment vessels. They only get one turret slot, but it does 100% extra damage. This could mean that they would make mean bombardments for their size.
Romvex 452	Posted - 2013.01.24 20:27:00 - [82] - Quote Berluth Luthian wrote: So the pirate rookie frigates look like great orbital bombardment vessels. They only get one turret slot, but it does 100% extra damage. This could mean that they would make mean bombardments for their size. that makes the equivalent of 2 turrets. use a destroyer (a¦á_a¦á) ~ Post With Your Main-á ~ (a¦á_a¦á)
Berluth Luthian 14th Legion Black Core Alliance 36	Posted - 2013.01.24 20:45:00 - [83] - Quote Romvex wrote: Berluth Luthian wrote: So the pirate rookie frigates look like great orbital bombardment vessels. They only get one turret slot, but it does 100% extra damage. This could mean that they would make mean bombardments for their size. that makes the equivalent of 2 turrets. use a destroyer Can't you only use one turret at a time when you bombard? If you can use more, then I agree with you.
Derdrom Utida State War Academy Caldari State 0	Posted - 2013.01.24 20:47:00 - [84] - Quote What I love is that scan strength bonus. Oh jeebus, I wish, wish, WISH there was any other T1 hull with a scan strength bonus that wasn't a frigate. I'd kill for a Destroyer with a scan bonus.
Grey Azorria Federation Industries 277	Posted - 2013.01.24 20:49:00 - [85] - Quote Berluth Luthian wrote: Romvex wrote: Berluth Luthian wrote: So the pirate rookie frigates look like great orbital bombardment vessels. They only get one turret slot, but it does 100% extra damage. This could mean that they would make mean bombardments for their size. that makes the equivalent of 2 turrets. use a destroyer Can't you only use one turret at a time when you bombard? If you can use more, then I agree with you. Nope you can use as much as your ship can fit, and for now, skills and damage bonuses mean nothing. Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience. Mate.
Romvex 452	Posted - 2013.01.24 20:53:00 - [86] - Quote Grey Azorria wrote: Berluth Luthian wrote: Romvex wrote: Berluth Luthian wrote: So the pirate rookie frigates look like great orbital bombardment vessels. They only get one turret slot, but it does 100% extra damage. This could mean that they would make mean bombardments for their size. that makes the equivalent of 2 turrets. use a destroyer Can't you only use one turret at a time when you bombard? If you can use more, then I agree with you. Nope you can use as much as your ship can fit, and for now, skills and damage bonuses mean nothing. ouch, then in that case it would be only one turret's damage (a¦á_a¦á) ~ Post With Your Main-á ~ (a¦á_a¦á)
Berluth Luthian 14th Legion Black Core Alliance 36	Posted - 2013.01.24 20:59:00 - [87] - Quote So if you fire with 6 turrets do you do 6 turrets worth of damage or one?
Gogela Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance 2267	Posted - 2013.01.24 21:59:00 - [88] - Quote Berluth Luthian wrote: So if you fire with 6 turrets do you do 6 turrets worth of damage or one? The damage on the ground is the same regardless of how many turrets you use or what your skills and bonuses are. Every Ship in GëíGêçGëí \| [FX7] \| Vote Cthulhu 2012
Romvex 452	Posted - 2013.01.24 22:18:00 - [89] - Quote Gogela wrote: Berluth Luthian wrote: So if you fire with 6 turrets do you do 6 turrets worth of damage or one? The damage on the ground is the same regardless of how many turrets you use or what your skills and bonuses are. Well than that's pretty ***** broken (a¦á_a¦á) ~ Post With Your Main**-á ~ (a¦á_a¦á)
Gogela Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance 2267	Posted - 2013.01.24 22:24:00 - [90] - Quote Romvex wrote: Gogela wrote: Berluth Luthian wrote: So if you fire with 6 turrets do you do 6 turrets worth of damage or one? The damage on the ground is the same regardless of how many turrets you use or what your skills and bonuses are. Well than that's pretty ***** broken Within the context of DUST not really. DUST is still very beta-y. In EvE yah there'd be a threadnought on it and people shooting at monuments. In DUST people are more concerned with bunny-hopping, graphics/frame rates, and about a zillion other issues. Every Ship in GëíGêçGëí** \| [FX7] \| Vote Cthulhu 2012



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