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Syn Fatelyng
Redanni
84
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Posted - 2013.01.19 16:47:00 -
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Netcraft confirms it. Pirate Rookie Frigates are on Sisi, along with a SocT-style Battlecruiser.
Pirate Frigate Screenshots: http://imgur.com/a/yAWU6#0
Found in the market section: Ships > Special Edition Ships > Special Edition Frigates
SocT Battlecruiser: http://i.imgur.com/4socR7Z.jpg http://i.imgur.com/O34P6Pa.jpg http://i.imgur.com/xdHASWO.jpg
Found in the market section: Ships > Special Edition Ships > Special Edition Battlecruisers |

Dave Stark
1611
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Posted - 2013.01.19 16:52:00 -
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interesting. "100k for notifications of stupidity, i love this bounty system." |

Korg Leaf
Nocturnal Romance
55
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Posted - 2013.01.19 16:55:00 -
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They would all be really really really overpowered if we got a hold of them |

Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
2230
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Posted - 2013.01.19 16:59:00 -
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Hmm... things are moving around it seems. That SSoCT BC used to be the SoCT Cruiser. The Echo is on TQ now as a frigate, and the Immolater is on TQ as the Styx frigate.
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killorbekilled TBE
Initiated
202
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Posted - 2013.01.19 17:04:00 -
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Sa-weeeeeet!! :) |

Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
741
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Posted - 2013.01.19 17:08:00 -
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As a full-time mostly losec explorer.
Yes. Yes! YES!!
(Although they'd likely have to choose one set of boni for the weapons, and dial back some of the base attributes --that might be just a bit O/P as-is. Missiles, please, CCP, thank you.)
Meta-gaming for carebears:
Whine on the forums like a little ***** until CCP gets sick of you and hands you everything you ask for just to shut you up. |

Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
1964
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Posted - 2013.01.19 17:08:00 -
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The unique hulls still don't have prerequisites. And I can't check sisi tell late today. But it seems they are just fleshing out ship info when you look it up so it wont just say "pirate frig 6" and proper stats for ccp actors for events. |

Syn Fatelyng
Redanni
84
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Posted - 2013.01.19 17:10:00 -
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Roll Sizzle Beef wrote:The unique hulls still don't have prerequisites. And I can't check sisi tell late today. But it seems they are just fleshing out ship info when you look it up so it wont just say "pirate frig 6" and proper stats for ccp actors for events. 3 of the 5 frigates have a Pre-req tab, all which required frigate 1 of one race. I simply forgot to take a screenshot within those tabs due to my aversion of awakeness. |

Jon Joringer
Zero-K
9
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Posted - 2013.01.19 17:13:00 -
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The Gnosis has been my favorite looking ship in EVE ever since I blew Dagan's up. I like it better as a cruiser though.
I wonder if this means these ships (wonky OP stats aside) will sometime become available to us. |

Naela Ambramotte
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
44
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Posted - 2013.01.19 17:14:00 -
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Alliance tournament and/or 10th anniversary gifts perhaps? |
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Myrissa Kistel
Planetary Logistics
14
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Posted - 2013.01.19 17:16:00 -
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Those are awesome. |

Mizhir
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
2863
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Posted - 2013.01.19 17:25:00 -
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Lol they are cute :) If you are having Smurf problems I feel bad for you son I got 99 problems but a Blue aint one. |

Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
480
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Posted - 2013.01.19 17:26:00 -
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Naela Ambramotte wrote:10th anniversary gifts perhaps?
One can only hope.
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Sarmatiko
860
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Posted - 2013.01.19 17:30:00 -
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This is...a real thing? 
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Nexus Day
Lustrevik Trade and Travel Bureau
414
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Posted - 2013.01.19 17:40:00 -
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Gnosis...I choose you! This thread has so much content it may be 'Thread of the Year' and it is only January.
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Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
400
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Posted - 2013.01.19 18:06:00 -
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Wow, a special edition noob ship...How exciting.........
The single biggest danger to EVE is the proliferation of ALTS! Kill an alt today!
Petition for a Minimum bounty of 10 mil. Prevent useless bounties!
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luZk
x13 Whores in space
90
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Posted - 2013.01.19 18:10:00 -
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The "Echo" looks very cool! |

Rakshasa Taisab
Sane Industries Inc.
1088
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Posted - 2013.01.19 18:35:00 -
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Taipan? For a moment there I read it as Paipan.
Hmm... So these would be the ships we get if we get a rookie ship in a pirate station? Nyan |

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Operations
3324
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Posted - 2013.01.19 19:00:00 -
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On a side note:
Under Trade Goods there are 3 "Aurum Tokens" with 100, 500, and 1000 values with coin-like icons.
Loot drop ? LP Store ? America is the only country to go from barbarism to decadence (and back to barbarism - KI) without civilization in between. - Oscar Wilde - 1870's |

Solstice Project
Highsec Outlaw Elementary School
2588
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Posted - 2013.01.19 19:02:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:On a side note:
Under Trade Goods there are 3 "Aurum Tokens" with 100, 500, and 1000 values with coin-like icons.
Loot drop ? LP Store ? These aren't actually new ... Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire |
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mynnna
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
305
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Posted - 2013.01.19 19:07:00 -
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Gnosis isn't really that OP, despite what some of you think. As an example, 5x heavy pulse with scorch, point, web, mwd, LSE II, 2x invulns, 3x heat sink, 2x DDA II, damage control II and 3x CDFE along with a flight of hammerheads gives it 670 DPS to 22.5km optimal (which isn't that outrageous for a battlecruiser) but only about 45k EHP (if my math is right). You could go with blasters for a higher damage of course, but shorter range, which might be inadvisable...despite the low mass, it's surprisingly slow.
Looking baller as heck is obviously a nice perk but doesn't help you in combat. ;) This post was crafted by a member of the GoonSwarm Federation Economic Cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online economics and gameplay. |

Tul Breetai
Impromptu Asset Requisition Insurance Fraud.
167
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Posted - 2013.01.19 19:10:00 -
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Solstice Project wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:On a side note:
Under Trade Goods there are 3 "Aurum Tokens" with 100, 500, and 1000 values with coin-like icons.
Loot drop ? LP Store ? These aren't actually new ...
Don't burst the poor man's bubble.... There's nothing worse than an EVE player, generally considered to be top of the food chain in the MMO world, that cannot smacktalk with wit and coherency. |

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Operations
3324
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Posted - 2013.01.19 19:17:00 -
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Solstice Project wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:On a side note:
Under Trade Goods there are 3 "Aurum Tokens" with 100, 500, and 1000 values with coin-like icons.
Loot drop ? LP Store ? These aren't actually new ...
I would've noticed them previously as it's a main category designation under Trade Goods, and I've not heard discussion about it before, BUT whatever. They aren't on TQ for sure.
lol ^^ I didn't burst. America is the only country to go from barbarism to decadence (and back to barbarism - KI) without civilization in between. - Oscar Wilde - 1870's |

Gorn Arming
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
134
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Posted - 2013.01.19 19:27:00 -
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The newbie frigate with a 30% web bonus would quickly become favored as a tackler if its other stats are reasonable and it became widely available.
No idea if there are plans for that, but it's undoubtedly the best of the set. |

Nexus Day
Lustrevik Trade and Travel Bureau
414
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Posted - 2013.01.19 19:38:00 -
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Theme based releases to include tweeks and ships...
Pirate themed expansion incoming? This thread has so much content it may be 'Thread of the Year' and it is only January.
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RubyPorto
Sniggwaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
2421
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Posted - 2013.01.19 19:41:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Solstice Project wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:On a side note:
Under Trade Goods there are 3 "Aurum Tokens" with 100, 500, and 1000 values with coin-like icons.
Loot drop ? LP Store ? These aren't actually new ... I would've noticed them previously as it's a main category designation under Trade Goods, and I've not heard discussion about it before, BUT whatever. They aren't on TQ for sure. lol ^^ I didn't burst.
Sure they are. Trade Goods > Aurum Tokens.
58m/33m in Jita for the 1000 Aur Tokens at the moment. This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |

Horatius Caul
Kitzless
187
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Posted - 2013.01.19 19:44:00 -
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WTB: Every single Gnosis Amarrad - Amarr language project |

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Operations
3324
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Posted - 2013.01.19 19:47:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Solstice Project wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:On a side note:
Under Trade Goods there are 3 "Aurum Tokens" with 100, 500, and 1000 values with coin-like icons.
Loot drop ? LP Store ? These aren't actually new ... I would've noticed them previously as it's a main category designation under Trade Goods, and I've not heard discussion about it before, BUT whatever. They aren't on TQ for sure. lol ^^ I didn't burst. Sure they are. Trade Goods > Aurum Tokens. 58m/33m in Jita for the 1000 Aur Tokens at the moment.
Well, how about that.
I thought this was something that certain players would have made screaming hissy fits about and I heard nothing.
Oh well, learn something new every day. America is the only country to go from barbarism to decadence (and back to barbarism - KI) without civilization in between. - Oscar Wilde - 1870's |

RubyPorto
Sniggwaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
2421
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Posted - 2013.01.19 19:49:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Well, how about that.
I thought this was something that certain players would have made screaming hissy fits about and I heard nothing.
Oh well, learn something new every day.
Why would anyone care that CCP gave out free Aurum as one of the options for the Christmas gift? This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Operations
3324
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Posted - 2013.01.19 19:57:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Well, how about that.
I thought this was something that certain players would have made screaming hissy fits about and I heard nothing.
Oh well, learn something new every day. Why would anyone care that CCP gave out free Aurum as one of the options for the Christmas gift?
Go bother someone else. All you ever do is ask idiotic questions and/or b**ch about literally everything. It's astounding.
This was a thread about ships and other things found on Sisi and YOU are the one making it personal. What a freakin' ego. I find it creepy that you find me so magnetically fascinating. Wanna go on a date ? America is the only country to go from barbarism to decadence (and back to barbarism - KI) without civilization in between. - Oscar Wilde - 1870's |
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Solstice Project
Highsec Outlaw Elementary School
2589
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Posted - 2013.01.19 20:18:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:RubyPorto wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Well, how about that.
I thought this was something that certain players would have made screaming hissy fits about and I heard nothing.
Oh well, learn something new every day. Why would anyone care that CCP gave out free Aurum as one of the options for the Christmas gift? Go bother someone else. All you ever do is ask idiotic questions and/or b**ch about literally everything. It's astounding. This was a thread about ships and other things found on Sisi and YOU are the one making it personal. What a freakin' ego. I find it creepy that you find me so magnetically fascinating. Wanna go on a date ? You complain about his ego, but fail to see your own. Seriously, he posted quite normal, but you now behave like a sissy as if he touched you or something.
Your ego is far more bloated than his and the Aurum stuff above just proved it.
Try understanding that there are times when you simply do not know better.
Thanks. Now stop being annoying.
(inb4 him being even more annoying now, because his bloated ego can't handle it) Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire |

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Operations
3324
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Posted - 2013.01.19 20:26:00 -
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Solstice Project wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:RubyPorto wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Well, how about that.
I thought this was something that certain players would have made screaming hissy fits about and I heard nothing.
Oh well, learn something new every day. Why would anyone care that CCP gave out free Aurum as one of the options for the Christmas gift? Go bother someone else. All you ever do is ask idiotic questions and/or b**ch about literally everything. It's astounding. This was a thread about ships and other things found on Sisi and YOU are the one making it personal. What a freakin' ego. I find it creepy that you find me so magnetically fascinating. Wanna go on a date ? You complain about his ego, but fail to see your own. Seriously, he posted quite normal, but you now behave like a sissy as if he touched you or something. Your ego is far more bloated than his and the Aurum stuff above just proved it. Try understanding that there are times when you simply do not know better. Thanks. Now stop being annoying. (inb4 him being even more annoying now, because his bloated ego can't handle it)
Wrong.
He has baited me before many many times in the past, and this was going straight there. There are reasons why he was banned for a while there.
America is the only country to go from barbarism to decadence (and back to barbarism - KI) without civilization in between. - Oscar Wilde - 1870's |

Solstice Project
Highsec Outlaw Elementary School
2589
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Posted - 2013.01.19 20:29:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Wrong.
He has baited me before many many times in the past, and this was going straight there. There are reasons why he was banned for a while there.
But it takes always two for this. The guy who baits the fish and the fish that can't resist to bite.
If you were the more mature person, you would have simply blocked him ... but instead, you BLAME him. You BLAME him for biting to his bait ... does that make sense ? No ! Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire |

Solstice Project
Highsec Outlaw Elementary School
2589
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Posted - 2013.01.19 20:31:00 -
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Anyway... that SoCT cruiser is awesome !
I see lots of mixed weapon type fittings coming and nobody will blame them for it, because they all work ! How sick is that !
And the cargobay is HUGE ! That thing is a ******* MONSTER ! :D Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire |

Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
2230
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Posted - 2013.01.19 20:31:00 -
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At the risk of feeding the rumor mill to much... word on my streets is that CCP is going to expand FW to pirate factions, and that player w/ accounts 2 years old will be able to create pirate toons that in turn get these pirate rookie ships. They said they were going to do that from the start with FW... and to me this looks like what's happening here with the rookie ships.
I have been betting the Genosis would be involved with the 10th anniversary for years though. It just kind of follows. They turned the SoCT 1 frigate into the Apotheosis for the 5th... so SoCT Cruiser for the 10th... right?
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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Operations
3324
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Posted - 2013.01.19 20:32:00 -
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Solstice Project wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Wrong.
He has baited me before many many times in the past, and this was going straight there. There are reasons why he was banned for a while there. But it takes always two for this. The guy who baits the fish and the fish that can't resist to bite. If you were the more mature person, you would have simply blocked him ... but instead, you BLAME him. You BLAME him for biting to his bait ... does that make sense ? No !
Why do people feel they have a right to crash an otherwise pleasant thread where I even admitted to being wrong ?
The need to bait like that is just flat out disturbed ego, nothing more or less, and we could do with less of the bait attitude on these forums period. America is the only country to go from barbarism to decadence (and back to barbarism - KI) without civilization in between. - Oscar Wilde - 1870's |

Solstice Project
Highsec Outlaw Elementary School
2589
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Posted - 2013.01.19 20:34:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Ignorance is Strength. Without the idiot who bites, there's no idiot who baits. Now stay on topic, please. Your bloated ego is crying too much.
Thank you.
Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire |

RubyPorto
Sniggwaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
2421
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Posted - 2013.01.19 20:36:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Wrong.
He has baited me before many many times in the past, and this was going straight there. There are reasons why he was banned for a while there.
Reasons which have nothing to do with you. Or this imaginary feud you seem to think we're having.
Seriously, I don't "find you magnetically fascinating." You post on GD a lot. I post on GD a lot. Of course we're going to post in the same threads a lot. The fact that you make easily rebuttable claims means that rebutting your claims is easy (tautology is tautology), so I tend to do so, especially since you tend to double down on your claims when they're challenged, regardless of their soundness. This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |

Solstice Project
Highsec Outlaw Elementary School
2589
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Posted - 2013.01.19 20:38:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Wrong.
He has baited me before many many times in the past, and this was going straight there. There are reasons why he was banned for a while there. Reasons which have nothing to do with you. Or this imaginary feud you seem to think we're having. Seriously, I don't "find you magnetically fascinating." You post on GD a lot. I post on GD a lot. Of course we're going to post in the same threads a lot. The fact that you make easily rebuttable claims means that rebutting your claims is easy (tautology is tautology), so I tend to do so, especially since you tend to double down on your claims when they're challenged, regardless of their soundness. You two should marry.
inb4tl. Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire |

RubyPorto
Sniggwaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
2421
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Posted - 2013.01.19 20:41:00 -
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Gogela wrote:At the risk of feeding the rumor mill to much... word on my streets is that CCP is going to expand FW to pirate factions, and that player w/ accounts 2 years old will be able to create pirate toons that in turn get these pirate rookie ships. They said they were going to do that from the start with FW... and to me this looks like what's happening here with the rookie ships.
I have been betting the Genosis would be involved with the 10th anniversary for years though. It just kind of follows. They turned the SoCT 1 frigate into the Apotheosis for the 5th... so SoCT Cruiser for the 10th... right?
They all look pretty baller, and I think the idea of a limited (but wide) issue of a competent fighting ship is an interesting choice from a market perspective.
Will it behave like the Genolution Implants where people fly and die in them regularly, or like the primae which sits in hangars doing nothing? This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |
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Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
2230
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Posted - 2013.01.19 21:05:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:Gogela wrote:At the risk of feeding the rumor mill to much... word on my streets is that CCP is going to expand FW to pirate factions, and that player w/ accounts 2 years old will be able to create pirate toons that in turn get these pirate rookie ships. They said they were going to do that from the start with FW... and to me this looks like what's happening here with the rookie ships.
I have been betting the Genosis would be involved with the 10th anniversary for years though. It just kind of follows. They turned the SoCT 1 frigate into the Apotheosis for the 5th... so SoCT Cruiser for the 10th... right?
They all look pretty baller, and I think the idea of a limited (but wide) issue of a competent fighting ship is an interesting choice from a market perspective. Will it behave like the Genolution Implants where people fly and die in them regularly, or like the primae which sits in hangars doing nothing? If it brings ANY unique capability to the field at all people will be dying in them a lot. If it's the same as (insert ship here) with a nerf to (insert attribute) or with one less (inset slot) then it will be a hanger queen. Maybe it'll have some weird bonus though... if it does there will be a lot of these on killboards.
Actually... if they keep the Genosis stats like they are it'll be a killer. People will use it.
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Romvex
442
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Posted - 2013.01.19 21:51:00 -
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Is it just me or are those pirate rookie ships totally OP? (a¦á_a¦á) ~ Post With Your Main-á ~ (a¦á_a¦á) |

Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
2230
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Posted - 2013.01.19 23:33:00 -
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Romvex wrote:Is it just me or are those pirate rookie ships totally OP? Who cares if they are? They are still less powerful than a T1 frig. I mean... who are they gonna gank? Other rookie ships? lol!
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Eli Green
The Arrow Project
427
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Posted - 2013.01.20 00:10:00 -
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Gogela wrote:I mean... who are they gonna gank? Other rookie ships? lol!
 wumbo |

Liang Nuren
Heretic Army Heretic Nation
2717
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Posted - 2013.01.20 00:18:00 -
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I'd really love to be able to declare allegiance to a pirate alliance for my existing characters. I've got one in particular that should just be declared Sansha and get it over with. His standings are utterly shot with everyone else. Starting a new character could be fun too.
-Liang Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?) Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com PVP Videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/LiangNuren/videos Twitter: http://twitter.com/LiangNuren
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fukier
RISE of LEGION
728
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Posted - 2013.01.20 00:28:00 -
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Liang Nuren wrote:I'd really love to be able to declare allegiance to a pirate alliance for my existing characters. I've got one in particular that should just be declared Sansha and get it over with. His standings are utterly shot with everyone else. Starting a new character could be fun too.
-Liang
you already can declare your loyalty At the end of the game both the pawn and the Queen go in the same box. |

Galaxy Pig
New Order Logistics CODE.
638
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Posted - 2013.01.20 01:08:00 -
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\o/ Pure awesomeness CCP. More pirate ships! What's not to like? |

Velarra
193
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Posted - 2013.01.20 01:13:00 -
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fukier wrote:Liang Nuren wrote:I'd really love to be able to declare allegiance to a pirate alliance for my existing characters. I've got one in particular that should just be declared Sansha and get it over with. His standings are utterly shot with everyone else. Starting a new character could be fun too.
-Liang you already can declare your loyalty
As well as set standings to their respective Pirate factions via the personal / corporate standings mechanics. |

Regkar Koskanaiken
Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated
0
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Posted - 2013.01.20 03:12:00 -
[49] - Quote
I hope it's not just for older accounts, I'd really love to participate in some good pirate faction-y goodness without waiting another year. |

Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
2230
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Posted - 2013.01.20 04:28:00 -
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Regkar Koskanaiken wrote:I hope it's not just for older accounts, I'd really love to participate in some good pirate faction-y goodness without waiting another year. 1) We're still in rumor country.
2) I'm sure it's not lost on ccp's marketing group that introducing a new "race" is a good way to get in on the ground level of an established MMO in the minds of would-be subscribers. CCP ain't a non-profit organization.
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Zagdul
Clan Shadow Wolf Fatal Ascension
1286
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Posted - 2013.01.20 04:39:00 -
[51] - Quote
If I were able to make a pirate faction character, I would make another account. Dual Pane idea: Click!
CCP Please Implement |

Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
4273
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Posted - 2013.01.20 05:01:00 -
[52] - Quote
well if they make pirate BCs and Pirate Destroyers and additional hulls in the larger classes for each race (ie 2 battleships 2 battelcuisers, 2 destroyers, and 1-5 more frigates.) Then we know something is up for sure :P
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Streya Jormagdnir
Alexylva Paradox
102
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Posted - 2013.01.20 06:00:00 -
[53] - Quote
I don't think it would quite make sense to introduce new races whenever all the pirate factions are made up of all the currently-existing races. Mechanically speaking, the "member races" of all the pirate factions are currently consist of the four standard races, and this notion is backed up by lore as well (the Angel Cartel and Sansha's Nation for example have people of all races in them).
In any case, if they do release these rookie ships I hope people who already have a character and account will be able to access them. As a light roleplayer I'd love to have the Angel Cartel rookie ship every time I dock up at a station after losing a ship, but definitely don't want to throw away my SP just to make a new toon either. Perhaps CCP will allow us to switch which rookie ship type we receive when we dock at stations without a ship? Maybe a new tab under "Insurance" and a small fee to pay would do the trick. This would provide the added benefit of giving cross-trained players something more familiar to be in too; a Gallentean toon who's cross-trained into Caldari might enjoy getting an Ibis rather than a Velator. Because even though rookie ships are largely regarded as useless, the new V3'd versions sure are nice eye candy; I'd pay 10-20k ISK to get a different type of rookie ship if I like its looks, hands down. And the Echo looks nice  We Are Tomorrow |

Lugia3
Pirates Incorporated
252
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Posted - 2013.01.20 06:22:00 -
[54] - Quote
It would be awesome if instead of getting noobships determined by your starting race, there was a little button that can give you one noob ship every half hour or so (per station). However, the noobship given to you when you press the button is determined by the owner/type of the station.
Gallente stations would give Velators. Caldari stations would give out the Ibis. Serpentis stations would give out the violator, and so on... Give drones some love: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2176396&#post2176396 |

Solhild
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
882
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Posted - 2013.01.20 08:57:00 -
[55] - Quote
Lugia3 wrote:It would be awesome if instead of getting noobships determined by your starting race, there was a little button that can give you one noob ship every half hour or so (per station). However, the noobship given to you when you press the button is determined by the owner/type of the station.
Gallente stations would give Velators. Caldari stations would give out the Ibis. Serpentis stations would give out the violator, and so on...
I've supported this idea before. The argument against this was based around the skills not being there to use frigates of other races, and their weapon systems. I'm fine with pods docking and frigates only being given if skills and standing are good enough. |

Sarmatiko
860
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Posted - 2013.01.20 14:10:00 -
[56] - Quote
Solhild wrote: I've supported this idea before. The argument against this was based around the skills not being there to use frigates of other races, and their weapon systems. I'm fine with pods docking and frigates only being given if skills and standing are good enough.
Or CCP can just remove obsolete frigate skill requirements from noobships, because bonuses not depend from them anyway. Currently Styx and Echo doesn't have any of those requirements, and Hematos, Taipan, Violator have them (only because on early stage they were created as copies of existing rookie ships)
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Stegas Tyrano
GLU CANU Open Space Consultancy
150
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Posted - 2013.01.20 14:50:00 -
[57] - Quote
This would be awesome> Is it still ingame? [PROPOSAL] INGAME ADVERTS FOR PLAYERS |

Silivar Karkun
Electronic Research Team Ing
29
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Posted - 2013.01.20 16:40:00 -
[58] - Quote
yeah, he just got revampe in V3 graphics, but all the traditional ships for the pirate factions still exist, the Ixion, the Medusa, etc.. |

Solhild
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
886
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Posted - 2013.01.20 19:46:00 -
[59] - Quote
Sarmatiko wrote:Solhild wrote: I've supported this idea before. The argument against this was based around the skills not being there to use frigates of other races, and their weapon systems. I'm fine with pods docking and frigates only being given if skills and standing are good enough.
Or CCP can just remove obsolete frigate skill requirements from noobships, because bonuses not depend from them anyway. Currently Styx and Echo doesn't have any of those requirements, and Hematos, Taipan, Violator have them (only because on early stage they were created as copies of existing rookie ships). And there is no problems with weapons, because fresh rookie ships are pre-fitted with civilian gun/mining laser. It's up to pilot how to fit their ship after that.
Sounds good to me. |

Romvex
442
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Posted - 2013.01.20 19:55:00 -
[60] - Quote
Silivar Karkun wrote:yeah, he just got revampe in V3 graphics, but all the traditional ships for the pirate factions still exist, the Ixion, the Medusa, etc.. according to Gogela's every ship page it's been removed, and i've never seen it before anyway (a¦á_a¦á) ~ Post With Your Main-á ~ (a¦á_a¦á) |
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Silivar Karkun
Electronic Research Team Ing
30
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Posted - 2013.01.20 20:35:00 -
[61] - Quote
Romvex wrote:Silivar Karkun wrote:yeah, he just got revampe in V3 graphics, but all the traditional ships for the pirate factions still exist, the Ixion, the Medusa, etc.. according to Gogela's every ship page it's been removed, and i've never seen it before anyway
they got a graphic revamp, i only know the angel ships http://freebooted.blogspot.com/2011/11/mysteries-of-new-eden-pirate-ships.html
look at here for the info in the revamp of the Angel Ships: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=136123 |

Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
2230
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Posted - 2013.01.20 20:36:00 -
[62] - Quote
Romvex wrote:Silivar Karkun wrote:yeah, he just got revampe in V3 graphics, but all the traditional ships for the pirate factions still exist, the Ixion, the Medusa, etc.. according to Gogela's every ship page it's been removed, and i've never seen it before anyway No it's still there... the ones in black are just ships that are only available to Devs. (You won't find it amongst the frigs b/c on TQ it's classified as a cruiser) You can still pull up the stats by clicking on the ship in your in-game browser. My list represents the TQ database... not SiSi
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Romvex
442
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Posted - 2013.01.20 20:44:00 -
[63] - Quote
Gogela wrote:Romvex wrote:Silivar Karkun wrote:yeah, he just got revampe in V3 graphics, but all the traditional ships for the pirate factions still exist, the Ixion, the Medusa, etc.. according to Gogela's every ship page it's been removed, and i've never seen it before anyway No it's still there... the ones in black are just ships that are only available to Devs. (You won't find it amongst the frigs b/c on TQ it's classified as a cruiser) You can still pull up the stats by clicking on the ship in your in-game browser. My list represents the TQ database... not SiSi Ah i see it, just has the red crossbones and skull saying removed from database. Can't seem to pull up info in IGB either (a¦á_a¦á) ~ Post With Your Main-á ~ (a¦á_a¦á) |

Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
2230
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Posted - 2013.01.20 21:37:00 -
[64] - Quote
Romvex wrote:Gogela wrote:Romvex wrote:Silivar Karkun wrote:yeah, he just got revampe in V3 graphics, but all the traditional ships for the pirate factions still exist, the Ixion, the Medusa, etc.. according to Gogela's every ship page it's been removed, and i've never seen it before anyway No it's still there... the ones in black are just ships that are only available to Devs. (You won't find it amongst the frigs b/c on TQ it's classified as a cruiser) You can still pull up the stats by clicking on the ship in your in-game browser. My list represents the TQ database... not SiSi Ah i see it, just has the red crossbones and skull saying removed from database. Can't seem to pull up info in IGB either *$%& #@*@!!!!!
Yah my bad you are right. They took it out of the TQ DB! Gah. Bummer. Sorry. The list is right I was wrong... :/
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Stegas Tyrano
GLU CANU Open Space Consultancy
150
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Posted - 2013.01.20 22:59:00 -
[65] - Quote
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooo..............  [PROPOSAL] INGAME ADVERTS FOR PLAYERS |

Arkenai Wyrnspire
Turalyon Plus
3
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Posted - 2013.01.20 23:15:00 -
[66] - Quote
Violator is sexy. Those bonuses. |

Streya Jormagdnir
Alexylva Paradox
103
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Posted - 2013.01.20 23:31:00 -
[67] - Quote
Echo bonuses also looks very nice. It would be one of the few T1 ships in the game with a small projectile falloff bonus.
I beg of CCP to let us use these things, rather than have them be some sort of one-time gift. We Are Tomorrow |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
2393
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Posted - 2013.01.21 00:53:00 -
[68] - Quote
One thing that would really help PVP and faction warfare would be specifically combat capable rookie ships for member of FW militias. As it is now, for everybody, you lose a ship or dock in a pod, you get a free rookie ship. Not much you can do with a rookie ship (unless you are a drone boat leetmeiser fielding 2 T2 drones from a velly and giving short-timers a shock) in FW, but it would probably be a good incentive for FW when they get combat frigates for being in FW.
Just a thought. |

Romvex
443
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Posted - 2013.01.21 01:40:00 -
[69] - Quote
Stegas Tyrano wrote:NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooo..............  yo dude i thought the same thing (a¦á_a¦á) ~ Post With Your Main-á ~ (a¦á_a¦á) |

Stegas Tyrano
GLU CANU Open Space Consultancy
150
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Posted - 2013.01.21 18:02:00 -
[70] - Quote
The Ixion has been V3'd
Please give it an Artillery/Railgun Bonus and a nice Tracking Link bonus  [PROPOSAL] INGAME ADVERTS FOR PLAYERS |
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Romvex
444
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Posted - 2013.01.21 18:04:00 -
[71] - Quote
that is assuming they're making it flyable. and why a hybrid bonus? (a¦á_a¦á) ~ Post With Your Main-á ~ (a¦á_a¦á) |

Stegas Tyrano
GLU CANU Open Space Consultancy
150
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Posted - 2013.01.21 18:12:00 -
[72] - Quote
Romvex wrote:that is assuming they're making it flyable. and why a hybrid bonus? and a link bonus used on logis?
Does it use projectiles? Artillery then. The link bonus is there for err because it's different and because they took it off the scythe [PROPOSAL] INGAME ADVERTS FOR PLAYERS |

Romvex
444
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Posted - 2013.01.21 18:15:00 -
[73] - Quote
Stegas Tyrano wrote:Romvex wrote:that is assuming they're making it flyable. and why a hybrid bonus? and a link bonus used on logis? Does it use projectiles? Artillery then. The link bonus is there for err because it's different and because they took it off the scythe  interesting idea, like a faction logi sort of Although with any of the currently unflyable angel ships, the stats would have to be overhauled. The medusa has speed less than half that of a battleship, the ixion has 1 lowslot and the lynx is just an overall awful ship based n the stats. also i would want more frigs and cruisers for other pirate factions as well to balance it out (a¦á_a¦á) ~ Post With Your Main-á ~ (a¦á_a¦á) |

Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
3379
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Posted - 2013.01.21 19:14:00 -
[74] - Quote
It would be interesting if this was the theme for the next series of expansions... namely Pirates vs The Man.
Players able to bring in new characters aligned with the different Pirate factions vs Faction Militia pilots... with access to properly balanced versions of their ships available for our consumption.
Perhaps even including freeing stations (and whole systems) from Faction control and docking regulations, and possibly involving the ability to shift security status of disputed systems up and down.
It's been hinted at, it would be nice to see it done in this fashion.
To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |

Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
2242
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Posted - 2013.01.21 21:33:00 -
[75] - Quote
There is still the model in the TQ database for that (used for NPC ships), but not the player flyable ship. If you get on some of the development builds (sisi or buckingham) some of the ship in red on my list will pull up a player flyable ship's stats. I don't know why that is or how that works. A few expansions ago CCP Greyscale went on a tear removing 'unused' stuff from the TQ database and with that went the ships. This was never applied to the development servers though. Don't ask me how that's even possible I don't know. That said, concord cruisers, the Ixion, and even the Infested Dominix could still be pulled up for many builds after the TQ purge. I don't know if that's still the case, I haven't tested it recently. I don't generally remove the link or itemID from my ship list when they remove a ship from the TQ database, so if it's still there the link should work in the test client. Maybe they'll bring it back at some point? You could check sisi to find out...
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Streya Jormagdnir
Alexylva Paradox
106
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Posted - 2013.01.23 14:41:00 -
[76] - Quote
Has there been any comment from CCP regarding these things? Really eager to hear what they have to say about em! I am also a human, straggling between the present world... and our future. I am a regulator, a coordinator, one who is meant to guide the way. |

bufnitza calatoare
Nex Angelus. Unclaimed.
59
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Posted - 2013.01.23 21:28:00 -
[77] - Quote
I think its safe to say with 99.99% certainty that the Gnosis will be a tourney ship. god knows what 2nd prize will be.
pirate rookie ships for 10th eve birthday pressies to the populace. |

Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
2259
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Posted - 2013.01.23 21:57:00 -
[78] - Quote
bufnitza calatoare wrote:I think its safe to say with 99.99% certainty that the Gnosis will be a tourney ship. god knows what 2nd prize will be.
pirate rookie ships for 10th eve birthday pressies to the populace. I think that you are wrong about the Gnosis, for 3 main reasons.
1) Apotheosis for 5th. Gnosis for 10th. Same ship line and works w/ the lore.
2) Everyone is testing the Gnosis on sisi. CCP is seeking feedback and really trying to balance it into the game's ecosystem. That's not something they do with limited 50-run tourny ships.
3) The logical next iteration of faction warfare is to take it to the pirate factions. CCP has been talking about that since the inception of FW. That would be the vector for distributing pirate rookie ships. Either that or letting people choose a pirate bloodline when they create a character (also a possibility).
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Streya Jormagdnir
Alexylva Paradox
110
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Posted - 2013.01.24 16:21:00 -
[79] - Quote
Gogela wrote:[quote=bufnitza calatoare]
3) The logical next iteration of faction warfare is to take it to the pirate factions. CCP has been talking about that since the inception of FW. That would be the vector for distributing pirate rookie ships. Either that or letting people choose a pirate bloodline when they create a character (also a possibility).
I wonder how that will work? Where will the pirate militias fight? Will they be at war with all the hisec empires (and thus pirate militia pilots will get shot at from the navies in hisec)? It will certainly be interesting to see!
I am also a human, straggling between the present world... and our future. I am a regulator, a coordinator, one who is meant to guide the way. |

Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
3394
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Posted - 2013.01.24 16:54:00 -
[80] - Quote
Streya Jormagdnir wrote:Gogela wrote:[quote=bufnitza calatoare]
3) The logical next iteration of faction warfare is to take it to the pirate factions. CCP has been talking about that since the inception of FW. That would be the vector for distributing pirate rookie ships. Either that or letting people choose a pirate bloodline when they create a character (also a possibility). I wonder how that will work? Where will the pirate militias fight? Will they be at war with all the hisec empires (and thus pirate militia pilots will get shot at from the navies in hisec)? It will certainly be interesting to see! I imagine that they will fight in the same systems as FW currently does, but if they win it simply free's them from Faction control. In a sense they could call themselves Freedom Fighters instead of Pirates... which would be true, from a certain point of view.  To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
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Berluth Luthian
14th Legion Black Core Alliance
36
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Posted - 2013.01.24 20:21:00 -
[81] - Quote
So the pirate rookie frigates look like great orbital bombardment vessels. They only get one turret slot, but it does 100% extra damage. This could mean that they would make mean bombardments for their size. |

Romvex
452
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Posted - 2013.01.24 20:27:00 -
[82] - Quote
Berluth Luthian wrote:So the pirate rookie frigates look like great orbital bombardment vessels. They only get one turret slot, but it does 100% extra damage. This could mean that they would make mean bombardments for their size. that makes the equivalent of 2 turrets. use a destroyer (a¦á_a¦á) ~ Post With Your Main-á ~ (a¦á_a¦á) |

Berluth Luthian
14th Legion Black Core Alliance
36
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Posted - 2013.01.24 20:45:00 -
[83] - Quote
Romvex wrote:Berluth Luthian wrote:So the pirate rookie frigates look like great orbital bombardment vessels. They only get one turret slot, but it does 100% extra damage. This could mean that they would make mean bombardments for their size. that makes the equivalent of 2 turrets. use a destroyer
Can't you only use one turret at a time when you bombard? If you can use more, then I agree with you. |

Derdrom Utida
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.01.24 20:47:00 -
[84] - Quote
What I love is that scan strength bonus. Oh jeebus, I wish, wish, WISH there was any other T1 hull with a scan strength bonus that wasn't a frigate. I'd kill for a Destroyer with a scan bonus. |

Grey Azorria
Federation Industries
277
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Posted - 2013.01.24 20:49:00 -
[85] - Quote
Berluth Luthian wrote:Romvex wrote:Berluth Luthian wrote:So the pirate rookie frigates look like great orbital bombardment vessels. They only get one turret slot, but it does 100% extra damage. This could mean that they would make mean bombardments for their size. that makes the equivalent of 2 turrets. use a destroyer Can't you only use one turret at a time when you bombard? If you can use more, then I agree with you. Nope you can use as much as your ship can fit, and for now, skills and damage bonuses mean nothing. Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.
Mate. |

Romvex
452
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Posted - 2013.01.24 20:53:00 -
[86] - Quote
Grey Azorria wrote:Berluth Luthian wrote:Romvex wrote:Berluth Luthian wrote:So the pirate rookie frigates look like great orbital bombardment vessels. They only get one turret slot, but it does 100% extra damage. This could mean that they would make mean bombardments for their size. that makes the equivalent of 2 turrets. use a destroyer Can't you only use one turret at a time when you bombard? If you can use more, then I agree with you. Nope you can use as much as your ship can fit, and for now, skills and damage bonuses mean nothing. ouch, then in that case it would be only one turret's damage (a¦á_a¦á) ~ Post With Your Main-á ~ (a¦á_a¦á) |

Berluth Luthian
14th Legion Black Core Alliance
36
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Posted - 2013.01.24 20:59:00 -
[87] - Quote
So if you fire with 6 turrets do you do 6 turrets worth of damage or one? |

Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
2267
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Posted - 2013.01.24 21:59:00 -
[88] - Quote
Berluth Luthian wrote:So if you fire with 6 turrets do you do 6 turrets worth of damage or one? The damage on the ground is the same regardless of how many turrets you use or what your skills and bonuses are.
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Romvex
452
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Posted - 2013.01.24 22:18:00 -
[89] - Quote
Gogela wrote:Berluth Luthian wrote:So if you fire with 6 turrets do you do 6 turrets worth of damage or one? The damage on the ground is the same regardless of how many turrets you use or what your skills and bonuses are. Well than that's pretty ******* broken (a¦á_a¦á) ~ Post With Your Main-á ~ (a¦á_a¦á) |

Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
2267
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Posted - 2013.01.24 22:24:00 -
[90] - Quote
Romvex wrote:Gogela wrote:Berluth Luthian wrote:So if you fire with 6 turrets do you do 6 turrets worth of damage or one? The damage on the ground is the same regardless of how many turrets you use or what your skills and bonuses are. Well than that's pretty ******* broken Within the context of DUST not really. DUST is still very beta-y. In EvE yah there'd be a threadnought on it and people shooting at monuments. In DUST people are more concerned with bunny-hopping, graphics/frame rates, and about a zillion other issues.
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Streya Jormagdnir
Alexylva Paradox
130
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Posted - 2013.02.04 05:59:00 -
[91] - Quote
These look like they'll be one-time limited edition ships. I just noticed the OP found them under Limited Edition Ships folders on the test server. I am also a human, straggling between the present world... and our future. I am a regulator, a coordinator, one who is meant to guide the way. |

Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
2283
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Posted - 2013.02.04 07:31:00 -
[92] - Quote
Streya Jormagdnir wrote:These look like they'll be one-time limited edition ships.  I just noticed the OP found them under Limited Edition Ships folders on the test server. Yah... but we're talking test server too. Honestly, I've been following spaceships for a while now and I honestly think there's only a few people at CCP who even know what ships go in what category. The database category's mean nothing to them. At all. One thing to note too is that there is no "market" category for rookie ships. I mean, these faction rookie ships could easilly be reclassified as frigates.
I'll give you a good example: The Apotheosis. Lets take a walk down memory lane: The model started out as the SOCT1 frigate, a ship that still exists today under the T1 frigate category. Then they issued it as a shuttle. Then they put it on the market as a frigate. Then it was a special edition frigate... a category it's still in today despite it being a shuttle and there being a "special shuttle" section for it now.
CCP just isn't concerned with labels. Maybe it'll be a one-time issue thing, maybe it won't. What I can say is that the category it's in on the test sever isn't the deciding factor. In fact... it's not a factor at all.
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Spork Witch
Soul-Strike
1
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Posted - 2013.04.13 17:07:00 -
[93] - Quote
Gogela wrote:Streya Jormagdnir wrote:These look like they'll be one-time limited edition ships.  I just noticed the OP found them under Limited Edition Ships folders on the test server. Yah... but we're talking test server too. Honestly, I've been following spaceships for a while now and I honestly think there's only a few people at CCP who even know what ships go in what category. The database category's mean nothing to them. At all. One thing to note too is that there is no "market" category for rookie ships. I mean, these faction rookie ships could easilly be reclassified as frigates. I'll give you a good example: The Apotheosis. Lets take a walk down memory lane: The model started out as the SOCT1 frigate, a ship that still exists today under the T1 frigate category. Then they issued it as a shuttle. Then they put it on the market as a frigate. Then it was a special edition frigate... a category it's still in today despite it being a shuttle and there being a "special shuttle" section for it now. CCP just isn't concerned with labels. Maybe it'll be a one-time issue thing, maybe it won't. What I can say is that the category it's in on the test sever isn't the deciding factor. In fact... it's not a factor at all. For that matter, in the name of "cleaning up the market" they moved non-capitals (ships that do not require nor are affected by capital skills, are able to use jump gates, are able to enter high-sec, and are able to built in high-sec) into the capital ships category, confusing countless newbies that don't know better (and even some oldbies.) |

Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
2393
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Posted - 2013.04.13 18:00:00 -
[94] - Quote
Spork Witch wrote:Gogela wrote:Streya Jormagdnir wrote:These look like they'll be one-time limited edition ships.  I just noticed the OP found them under Limited Edition Ships folders on the test server. Yah... but we're talking test server too. Honestly, I've been following spaceships for a while now and I honestly think there's only a few people at CCP who even know what ships go in what category. The database category's mean nothing to them. At all. One thing to note too is that there is no "market" category for rookie ships. I mean, these faction rookie ships could easilly be reclassified as frigates. I'll give you a good example: The Apotheosis. Lets take a walk down memory lane: The model started out as the SOCT1 frigate, a ship that still exists today under the T1 frigate category. Then they issued it as a shuttle. Then they put it on the market as a frigate. Then it was a special edition frigate... a category it's still in today despite it being a shuttle and there being a "special shuttle" section for it now. CCP just isn't concerned with labels. Maybe it'll be a one-time issue thing, maybe it won't. What I can say is that the category it's in on the test sever isn't the deciding factor. In fact... it's not a factor at all. For that matter, in the name of "cleaning up the market" they moved non-capitals (ships that do not require nor are affected by capital skills, are able to use jump gates, are able to enter high-sec, and are able to built in high-sec) into the capital ships category, confusing countless newbies that don't know better (and even some oldbies.) If you are referring to freighters, I think of it not in terms of what the actual capabilities are, but what they look like in space. The way I would categorize ships would be broad... T2, T3, Faction, and T1 cruisers would all simply go under the heading "cruisers", for example. Freighters are huge. I've always considered them capitals, even if they can't jump and can use gates. I mean... you can jam 16 BS into a freighter....
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Lewiatan
Team of Programmers Mildly Sober
0
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Posted - 2013.04.13 18:11:00 -
[95] - Quote
Those rookie frigates have life of 14 days or month as far as I know/was told. So only rookie can use it or something like that. Anyone can confirm that? |

Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
2393
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Posted - 2013.04.13 19:47:00 -
[96] - Quote
Lewiatan wrote:Those rookie frigates have life of 14 days or month as far as I know/was told. So only rookie can use it or something like that. Anyone can confirm that? I can confirm that this isn't true. They will be in your hanger as long as you leave them there.
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Cypherous
Liberty Rogues Aprilon Dynasty
4
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Posted - 2013.04.13 21:58:00 -
[97] - Quote
Lewiatan wrote:Those rookie frigates have life of 14 days or month as far as I know/was told. So only rookie can use it or something like that. Anyone can confirm that?
You're thinking of the rookie boosters whiich can only be used by characters under a certain age range |
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