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implanted	Posted - 2005.07.01 21:01:00 - [1] Hello all. Ive been playing eve for over a year now and find the single player game diminishing.lets face it ,most people that play this game play twice a week for a couple of hours after work or at weekends.we dont have the time to commit to a bigger corp or there activities.and most of us i believe are happy runnin misions and getting a steady flow of new content to keep us interested.Untill lately that is when everything in the new patch is clearly headed for 0.0 sec space. Please dont forget us single player characters,we are the majority of your paying customers,give us some kind of bonus for bieng long term players,cheaper subscription maybe. the dreads look great but thats all ill be able to do is look.....unfortunately.
Imode	Posted - 2005.07.01 21:04:00 - [2] MMORPG I had no idea the word single was spelled with a silent M.
implanted	Posted - 2005.07.01 21:07:00 - [3] Originally by: Imode MMORPG I had no idea the word single was spelled with a silent M. yeah read what i said ...time factor. but i love the game and would like to see more for us shorter online players.
fairimear	Posted - 2005.07.01 21:12:00 - [4] do never use mmog as a justification for team work. the nature of a game is to have fun competing with each other. more games have a head to head multiplayer over a co-operative. MASSIVE MULTIPLAYER ONLINE GAME means nothing but a way for a massive amount of people to compet with each other at once. Any move to make eve more coperative than solo would be a mistake as the nature of mmog's rarely allow perfect organisation between groups in diffrent time frames or even that groups want to do the same thing as each other. (\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world Domination.
Gamer4liff	Posted - 2005.07.01 21:13:00 - [5] Originally by: fairimear do never use mmog as a justification for team work. the nature of a game is to have fun competing with each other. more games have a head to head multiplayer over a co-operative. MASSIVE MULTIPLAYER ONLINE GAME means nothing but a way for a massive amount of people to compet with each other at once. Any move to make eve more coperative than solo would be a mistake as the nature of mmog's rarely allow perfect organisation between groups in diffrent time frames or even that groups want to do the same thing as each other. SECONDED^^^^
Lawman	Posted - 2005.07.01 21:14:00 - [6] Valid topic Implanted ...... ignore Imode she's a moron ..... 40% plus of the ppl on line are aculaly solo players, or have multi accounts and pretend not to be...... even the the game content on the retail box relates to single player content, but that seems to be forgotten. And yes I whole hartedly agree with the drednought edition .... not only cant you fly it solo .... you cant fly it in Empire space ??? whats that about ? someone argued that concord would have troble dealing with it.... but im sure Concord have drednoughts aswell. anyway theres a lot discluded from the single player, and a too much given the pirates ..... winge winge. but a fair comment ... give the solo player a carrot please.
Rod Blaine	Posted - 2005.07.01 21:16:00 - [7] Group oriented ocntent has lagged behind for aa while. Exodus brought very little of it and this is simply catching up to it for a bit. Altho alot of it will have nice and game-opening implications for soloplayers as well. Btw, playing just a few hours/week in no way excludes you from being in a corp, or being valuable to any group. the ability and willingness to cooperate does. time is less essential, altho still a factor. _______________________________________________ Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues.
Julien Derida	Posted - 2005.07.01 21:19:00 - [8] Edited by: Julien Derida on 01/07/2005 21:19:07 Originally by: implanted Please dont forget us single player characters,we are the majority of your paying customers,give us some kind of bonus for bieng long term players,cheaper subscription maybe. Here's a little tip. Inventing a large number of people that have the same view as you and then calling yourself a 'majority' is not a good way to construct an argument. ---------------------------------------- Chief Inspector of the Style Police - FRICK
The Hellion	Posted - 2005.07.01 21:21:00 - [9] one patch you perceive to be lacking in solo content and you start getting worried? relax, sure most of the stuff is aimed at making 0.0 a better place to be, which needs to be done, but theres still some stuff in this patch for the single player anyway. on a side note i'd disagree with you when you say that most people play twice a week for a couple of hours.
implanted	Posted - 2005.07.01 21:25:00 - [10] Originally by: The Hellion one patch you perceive to be lacking in solo content and you start getting worried? relax, sure most of the stuff is aimed at making 0.0 a better place to be, which needs to be done, but theres still some stuff in this patch for the single player anyway. on a side note i'd disagree with you when you say that most people play twice a week for a couple of hours. fair comment that bit came out wrong should have said "i " play 2 hours couple times a week
Corvus Dove	Posted - 2005.07.01 21:29:00 - [11] Trying to play game like this as a "Single Player" game is rather silly. Inevitibly, the guys with bigger guns will come forth and force you into a multiplayer experience that your mission-running setup won't be prepared for. You won't be happy. Might I suggest Microsoft's Freelancer? It seems to have this wierd glitch to it where if you mouse over the HUD it causes sudden lag for less than a second, but I'm sure it's a fair exchange to ensure all your enemies are easily nuked NPCs and you can mine or run missions to your heart's content. "You Griefer!!!" = "You Doodyhead!!!"
Eleven	Posted - 2005.07.01 21:30:00 - [12] I hear you Implanted, playing a few hours a week does make 0.0 uninviting and very costly not to mention very boring ..... i meen 10 minutes to get blown up ...... 1 hour to set the next ship up, and countless hours whatching your ship spin in the station waiting for members logon..... then ....OMG is that the time ...i gotta log .... not my idea of fun. and yes the dreadnought saga is harsh.
implanted	Posted - 2005.07.01 21:32:00 - [13] mmm ok corvus......read the box the game came in .
Vanesa Garcia	Posted - 2005.07.01 21:32:00 - [14] Originally by: Corvus Dove Trying to play game like this as a "Single Player" game is rather silly. Inevitibly, the guys with bigger guns will come forth and force you into a multiplayer experience that your mission-running setup won't be prepared for. You won't be happy. Might I suggest Microsoft's Freelancer? It seems to have this wierd glitch to it where if you mouse over the HUD it causes sudden lag for less than a second, but I'm sure it's a fair exchange to ensure all your enemies are easily nuked NPCs and you can mine or run missions to your heart's content. You so l33t and ubber with your thoughtful comment that I really want to to suggest you nice hot cup of STFU. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ \| There are people kinda "living" and people kinda "dead" \| -----------------------------------------------------
Khargos	Posted - 2005.07.01 21:34:00 - [15] Originally by: Julien Derida Edited by: Julien Derida on 01/07/2005 21:19:07 Originally by: implanted Please dont forget us single player characters,we are the majority of your paying customers,give us some kind of bonus for bieng long term players,cheaper subscription maybe. Here's a little tip. Inventing a large number of people that have the same view as you and then calling yourself a 'majority' is not a good way to construct an argument. heres another tip, dont count on statistics from the department of pulling things out of your ass. for all we know there might be more soloer's and mission runners then "group" players.
Ikvar	Posted - 2005.07.01 21:36:00 - [16] Massively Singleplayer Online Roleplaying Game ftw! __________________ Itanis > HIGH SLOTS ARE FOR MINERS LOL
The Melter	Posted - 2005.07.01 21:36:00 - [17] Quote: heres another tip, dont count on statistics from the department of pulling things out of your ass. for all we know there might be more soloer's and mission runners then "group" players. well said ..... for all you unbelivers .......go to Rens.
Imode	Posted - 2005.07.01 21:37:00 - [18] Quote: Valid topic Implanted ...... ignore Imode she's a moron ..... Heeey, I take great offense to that! But seriously, it's a massive MULTIPLAYER game. I can understand that many players don't have the time to participate in large coordinated events, but that doesn't change the fact that the game was still based around the concept of people working together to complete common goals. EVE touts the single largest online community and is a game centered around corporations and alliances. If you're looking for engaging single player content beyond, simple trade and agent running, then you may be playing the wrong game. To be honest, I'm a little jaded, coming from Final Fantasy XI where absolutely nothing, and I mean NOTHING could be accomplished by playing by your lonesome. But in all fairness, in this game as in life, you're going to get only what you put into it. If you play by yourself for only a few hours a week, don't expect get as much accomplished as the guy who works together with a 100+ member corp and devotes a good chunk of his life to the game.
Drilla	Posted - 2005.07.01 21:39:00 - [19] Here's another tip. If you want to play solo - you should have bought Freelancer not EVE-Online. If you (that's for everyone) are to stupid to realize this is a MULTIPLAYER game then you should cancel your subscription right away. The whole idea of EVE is to communicate and PVP if you disagree - ask any of the original devs. - * pure moinage *
Corvus Dove	Posted - 2005.07.01 21:40:00 - [20] Originally by: implanted mmm ok corvus......read the box the game came in . Would that be the same box that had an ESRB notice that said, "Game experience may change during online play"? "You Griefer!!!" = "You Doodyhead!!!"
Lawman	Posted - 2005.07.01 21:40:00 - [21] Imode .... that has been aswered by fairimear. and this isnt Final Fantasy.
Uncle George	Posted - 2005.07.01 21:44:00 - [22] Edited by: Uncle George on 01/07/2005 21:44:18 Single player content (ie. doing things solo): Piracy Mining NPC'ing Agent Missions Construction Research Trading .... do you mean "single player", or do you mean "solo" - because the two are very different. You might not be as successful at any of the above without comrades however, but they can all be done on your lonesome.
Dark Shikari2	Posted - 2005.07.01 21:45:00 - [23] Originally by: Julien Derida Edited by: Julien Derida on 01/07/2005 21:19:07 Originally by: implanted Please dont forget us single player characters,we are the majority of your paying customers,give us some kind of bonus for bieng long term players,cheaper subscription maybe. Here's a little tip. Inventing a large number of people that have the same view as you and then calling yourself a 'majority' is not a good way to construct an argument. It sure worked for the Bolsheviks in Russia.
Imode	Posted - 2005.07.01 21:55:00 - [24] Originally by: Lawman Imode .... that has been aswered by fairimear. and this isnt Final Fantasy. So what, am I not allowed to disagree with Fairimear? Fairimear is correct in some aspects. EVE obviously encourages competition, both military and economic. However, there's no reason why individuals can't cooperate in order to compete. If the whole point of MMORPG was to encourage competition, then for what reason (not meant to single Fairimear or SE out) would there be a desire for a great Southern Alliance? Why be friends with BoB and the [5], etc? For what purpose would there be to being a member of the largest single alliance in the entire game? You're right, this isn't Final Fantasy. This game is light years beyond Final Fantasy in the realm of single player content, but at the core, they're both MMORPG's governed by the same concept of teamwork and competition.
implanted	Posted - 2005.07.01 21:58:00 - [25] you cant get into 0.0 with all ya kit....ya get ganked on the first gate in.
Olivin	Posted - 2005.07.01 21:59:00 - [26] Originally by: Dark Shikari2 Originally by: Julien Derida Edited by: Julien Derida on 01/07/2005 21:19:07 Originally by: implanted Please dont forget us single player characters,we are the majority of your paying customers,give us some kind of bonus for bieng long term players,cheaper subscription maybe. Here's a little tip. Inventing a large number of people that have the same view as you and then calling yourself a 'majority' is not a good way to construct an argument. It sure worked for the Bolsheviks in Russia. It sure did. It's funny, since bolsheviks means "majority" which they never were. Didn't stop them to pwn everyone, though. Olivin
Aalekzander Sevvari	Posted - 2005.07.01 22:09:00 - [27] So let me get this straight: The game isn't fun due to certain aspects that have eliminated a first-person joy from a multiplayer online game? You also find 0.0 disheartening and a waste of gaming time? You wish the game were like other games you enjoyed and not like it is now? Look, if you hated the way a peice of cake looked... hated the way a peice of cake tasted... and wished that peice of cake looked and tasted like a completely different peice of cake... would you still eat the cake you have nothing but hate for? Seriously. If you are looking for something that this game doesn't offer, then find a game that will. Play Freespace 2, Independence War 2, Homeworld 1. Many other space games exists out there similar to EVE that have a much more single-player orientation. Because this isn't a simple one or two aspects that you agree with, but base game mechanics and philospohy. Don't complain about you still eating a peice of cake that you hate, when you have the choice to put it down.
Deka Massassi	Posted - 2005.07.01 22:10:00 - [28] Originally by: Corvus Dove Originally by: implanted mmm ok corvus......read the box the game came in . Would that be the same box that had an ESRB notice that said, "Game experience may change during online play"? Corvus Dove, how old are you? In all your post you act very immature. I have a tip for you, son. Grow the hell up A multiplayer game does not mean that everyone has to play TOGETHER. Each and every player can compete for the same resources individually. Is this, that hard to understand?
Uncle George	Posted - 2005.07.01 22:20:00 - [29] Edited by: Uncle George on 01/07/2005 22:21:05 Originally by: Aalekzander Sevvari So let me get this straight: The game isn't fun due to certain aspects that have eliminated a first-person joy from a multiplayer online game? You also find 0.0 disheartening and a waste of gaming time? You wish the game were like other games you enjoyed and not like it is now? Look, if you hated the way a peice of cake looked... hated the way a peice of cake tasted... and wished that peice of cake looked and tasted like a completely different peice of cake... would you still eat the cake you have nothing but hate for? Seriously. If you are looking for something that this game doesn't offer, then find a game that will. Play Freespace 2, Independence War 2, Homeworld 1. Many other space games exists out there similar to EVE that have a much more single-player orientation. Because this isn't a simple one or two aspects that you agree with, but base game mechanics and philospohy. Don't complain about you still eating a peice of cake that you hate, when you have the choice to put it down. Homeworld, Catacylsm and Homeworld II are enormous fun to play, both single player and online, but single player they are linear. x2 is more "eve like" (generalisation extremeist) in that there is trading, mining, combat etc. x3 is out soonish. Elite IV has been vapourware for a while . I would give Eve "best of genre" at present. Although I am playing this game "solo", it just wouldn't be the same if you could "pause it" ;)
Corvus Dove	Posted - 2005.07.01 22:22:00 - [30] Originally by: Deka Massassi Originally by: Corvus Dove Originally by: implanted mmm ok corvus......read the box the game came in . Would that be the same box that had an ESRB notice that said, "Game experience may change during online play"? Corvus Dove, how old are you? In all your post you act very immature. I have a tip for you, son. Grow the hell up A multiplayer game does not mean that everyone has to play TOGETHER. Each and every player can compete for the same resources individually. Is this, that hard to understand? Since we're down to personal attacks, I'm a 24 year old father of one. When you refer to a grown man as "son" in an attempt to puff yourself up in a forum argument, which you have, it just puts the image of a man with a mullet, a plaid red shirt, and a beercap behind a keyboard. It's not "immature" to point out abject stupidity, it's providing an amateur fool with an audience. And yes, you're asking too much. A multiplayer game does not mean everyone has to play together, but if they aren't you're essentially referring to NeoPets or GaiaOnline. You'd have to basically make the game turn-based or hide it all behind HTML to make the kind of game to which you are referring, and we'd all be very bored with that. And not paying. MMORPG or MMOG, however, DOES imply playing together. It's implied with the adjective "Massively" before "Multiplayer". If I have big guns, and you don't, it's quite likely I'll exert that power upon you in some way, shape, or form. Welcome to the human race, game or not. "You Griefer!!!" = "You Doodyhead!!!"

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