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Julien Derida	Posted - 2005.07.01 22:24:00 - [31] Edited by: Julien Derida on 01/07/2005 22:25:01 Originally by: Khargos Originally by: Julien Derida Edited by: Julien Derida on 01/07/2005 21:19:07 Originally by: implanted Please dont forget us single player characters,we are the majority of your paying customers,give us some kind of bonus for bieng long term players,cheaper subscription maybe. Here's a little tip. Inventing a large number of people that have the same view as you and then calling yourself a 'majority' is not a good way to construct an argument. heres another tip, dont count on statistics from the department of pulling things out of your ass. for all we know there might be more soloer's and mission runners then "group" players. Woo! Here's yet another tip: Don't read things into other people's posts that are not there! I didn't claim that group players are in the majority. I have absolutely no way of knowing whether solo players or group players are more numerous. Neither did the other guy. That was my point. ---------------------------------------- Chief Inspector of the Style Police - FRICK
konkord	Posted - 2005.07.01 22:25:00 - [32] This topic is even more stupid that the accidental one i posted earlier entitled 'no subject'. and this is what this is. a 'non' subject. -------------------------------------------- i'll make a decent siggy, dont you worry --------------------------------------------
Corvus Dove	Posted - 2005.07.01 22:40:00 - [33] COnsidering the number of responses that defend the OP, it is apparently an issue. Though perhaps it shouldn't be. "You Griefer!!!" = "You Doodyhead!!!"
Baldour Ngarr	Posted - 2005.07.01 23:10:00 - [34] Originally by: Corvus Dove COnsidering the number of responses that defend the OP, it is apparently an issue. Though perhaps it shouldn't be. EVE's a big place. There's room in here for ppl who want to work in gangs, ppl who want to play solo in the same game as lots of others, and ppl who want to play solo and ignore everybody else in the world (although why they'd pay to do so is beyond me). There's ROOM, that is. There may not be the intent by CCP to include all of those groups. Be a shame to lock any of them out, though; anything that reduces the size of your potential customer base, is not a good move. _______ "Soon" is an ancient Icelandic word meaning "some time before the next Ice Age."
GlimmerMan	Posted - 2005.07.01 23:32:00 - [35] Originally by: Drilla If you (that's for everyone) are to stupid to realize this is a MULTIPLAYER game then you should cancel your subscription right away. Hi there dummy, Quake 3 is a Multriplayer game isn't it? By your stupid argument it's meant to be played in teams only is it? Multiplayer surely can't mean 1 v 1 v 1 v 1 v 1 v 1 v 1 v 1 v 1 v 1..... NOOOOOO! Multiplayer must be 2+ v 2+ v 2+ v 2+ v 2+... YES!?!? Retard. Blowing s**t up since May 2003
SinBin	Posted - 2005.07.01 23:35:00 - [36] There is alot of real monkeys around, he said solo player mid post & single player was just a bad wording & i see its confused alot as is normaly with such small brain around. Iv been in the game along time now & big allaince even have many who realy are working alone or 1 or 2 guys , only in pvp do i realy see loads playing how your decribing a mmog. so pvp fleets & the odd mining op is the only time iv seen real teams or multiplayer again as your version of mmog. All that said you got level 4s now 0.0 does need a boost for makig true worlds but it also needs them dodgy agents to get the dodgy agent lot out they so we can shoot um in mmog mode as you decribe it. _______________________________________ Ill Shutup when CCP remove bookmarks
implanted	Posted - 2005.07.02 00:05:00 - [37] thanks sinbin... dont get me wrong all ive played space games for years (ever since elite..tape loaded 1 that is ) and yes played freelancer and all others x2 and that but eve is best at mo, i said going away from single player game and more to pvp which is lame for us "shorter online time players"
Rod Blaine	Posted - 2005.07.02 00:06:00 - [38] Working alone is fine, expecting end-game group based content to be availiabel when you do so is not. _______________________________________________ Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues.
implanted	Posted - 2005.07.02 00:15:00 - [39] yes rod blogging is passe... what about when ya buddies are offline ? what dya do then ?
Nero Scuro	Posted - 2005.07.02 08:18:00 - [40] Originally by: implanted yes rod blogging is passe... what about when ya buddies are offline ? what dya do then ? You don't get the end-game content. Pretty simple. --- So, what was that you fed me? Battery acid, mostly. That must be why I feel charged up! Ho ho! Actually, you'll just die. ...oh.
implanted	Posted - 2005.07.02 08:34:00 - [41] the game may be about PVP for some but not for us people who dont get much time online. it does not state on the box or in the manual "this is purely a pvp game so all you people wanting a single player experiance dont buy this so please read the box nero b4 making anymore rediculas comments ay
implanted	Posted - 2005.07.02 08:36:00 - [42] Originally by: SinBin There is alot of real monkeys around, he said solo player mid post & single player was just a bad wording & i see its confused alot as is normaly with such small brain around. Iv been in the game along time now & big allaince even have many who realy are working alone or 1 or 2 guys , only in pvp do i realy see loads playing how your decribing a mmog. so pvp fleets & the odd mining op is the only time iv seen real teams or multiplayer again as your version of mmog. All that said you got level 4s now 0.0 does need a boost for makig true worlds but it also needs them dodgy agents to get the dodgy agent lot out they so we can shoot um in mmog mode as you decribe it. hey nero......read this ! sinbin hit the nail on the head mate
Nero Scuro	Posted - 2005.07.02 08:59:00 - [43] Originally by: EVE box Immerse yourself in the vast virgin territories of EVE where power is the Holy Grail and the ultimate aphrodisiac. Conceive a new life without boundaries, where murder, plunder, betrayal and delusions of granduer will lead you to boundless glory or the brink of ruin. The galaxy is yours to control if you have the brains, strength and cunning to succeed. Yup, sounds like the perfect solo grind game to me. Oh, and sorry if I don't take Sin Bin seriously, but; Originally by: Sin Bin i see its confused alot as is normaly with such small brain around. I don't have a problem with solo players. People who expect to achieve what groups can on their own are what bother me. If a solo player could achieve what groups achieve, then why would you bother grouping? If you don't need to group, why bother playing with other players at all? Answer me THAT. --- So, what was that you fed me? Battery acid, mostly. That must be why I feel charged up! Ho ho! Actually, you'll just die. ...oh.
Vanesa Garcia	Posted - 2005.07.02 09:32:00 - [44] Originally by: Nero Scuro I don't have a problem with solo players. People who expect to achieve what groups can on their own are what bother me. If a solo player could achieve what groups achieve, then why would you bother grouping? If you don't need to group, why bother playing with other players at all? Answer me THAT. Yes you do have problem, but not with solo players of course. You so ubber and cool. Who's ass do you kiss in order to get your "group content"? And are you retard? You don't bother gouping, dambass. You make groups by washing morons heads ( like you) and then send them to die, or to mine, or to get you stuff. Understood? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ \| There are people kinda "living" and people kinda "dead" \| -----------------------------------------------------
Nero Scuro	Posted - 2005.07.02 09:50:00 - [45] Originally by: Vanesa Garcia Originally by: Nero Scuro I don't have a problem with solo players. People who expect to achieve what groups can on their own are what bother me. If a solo player could achieve what groups achieve, then why would you bother grouping? If you don't need to group, why bother playing with other players at all? Answer me THAT. Yes you do have problem, but not with solo players of course. You so ubber and cool. Who's ass do you kiss in order to get your "group content"? And are you retard? You don't bother gouping, dambass. You make groups by washing morons heads ( like you) and then send them to die, or to mine, or to get you stuff. Understood? Go to a psychologist. Ask him/her what s/he would think about someone who believes that; * anyone who has friends and plays games with them only got to do that by kissing ass * and is only playing games with them to get those friends to do things FOR you and the psychologist will tell you that person is a sociopath. 100% of the time, I can assure you. You are that sociopath! :o --- So, what was that you fed me? Battery acid, mostly. That must be why I feel charged up! Ho ho! Actually, you'll just die. ...oh.
Fred0	Posted - 2005.07.02 10:21:00 - [46] Edited by: Fred0 on 02/07/2005 10:21:21 The solo player content has increased over time. Just as multiplayer content has. There is virtually nothing you can't do solo. You just can't do it as well as in groups, and that's the way it should be. A few hours a week will never compete with the hardcore bunch. No matter how much you want it. And regarding the comment about broadening your customer base. A little bit of this and a little bit of that will leave you with nothing in the end. I'm praying CCP has a vission for this game when it comes to playing style and where to go long term, and I also hope they stay true to that.
Drilla	Posted - 2005.07.02 10:57:00 - [47] Originally by: GlimmerMan Originally by: Drilla If you (that's for everyone) are to stupid to realize this is a MULTIPLAYER game then you should cancel your subscription right away. Hi there dummy, Quake 3 is a Multriplayer game isn't it? By your stupid argument it's meant to be played in teams only is it? Multiplayer surely can't mean 1 v 1 v 1 v 1 v 1 v 1 v 1 v 1 v 1 v 1..... NOOOOOO! Multiplayer must be 2+ v 2+ v 2+ v 2+ v 2+... YES!?!? Retard. Hi Mensa Reject If you play 1v1v1.... you STILL interact and thus MULTIPLAYER - where did I write TEAMPLAY? That's right I didnt so please unplug keyboard before you flame nubtard. - * pure moinage *
Earthan	Posted - 2005.07.02 11:00:00 - [48] Originally by: implanted Hello all. Ive been playing eve for over a year now and find the single player game diminishing.lets face it ,most people that play this game play twice a week for a couple of hours after work or at weekends.we dont have the time to commit to a bigger corp or there activities.and most of us i believe are happy runnin misions and getting a steady flow of new content to keep us interested.Untill lately that is when everything in the new patch is clearly headed for 0.0 sec space. Please dont forget us single player characters,we are the majority of your paying customers,give us some kind of bonus for bieng long term players,cheaper subscription maybe. the dreads look great but thats all ill be able to do is look.....unfortunately. Well there have been a lot of empire stuff addded before , now time for 0.0. And frankly i play 8-12 hours a week , andi play only in 0.0 . Stars, stars like dust, all around me....
Taz Devlin	Posted - 2005.07.02 11:29:00 - [49] Originally by: implanted you cant get into 0.0 with all ya kit....ya get ganked on the first gate in. Teamwork to the rescue! This is why we have corps, to help each other out(I'm not even going to mention alliances) Crymeariver > How's HED? Sexymop > It's clear Crymeariver > Excellent! my 7954193264 Zyd can get to Yulai safe then!!! Teamwork 4tw! Do not expect pity from me or any other people who have invested blood, sweat and tears for this privilege. Originally by: implanted the game may be about PVP for some but not for us people who dont get much time online. it does not state on the box or in the manual "this is purely a pvp game so all you people wanting a single player experiance dont buy this so please read the box nero b4 making anymore rediculas comments ay Actually EVE is in fact 100% PvP as in Player versus Player. When you buy or sell anything in Rens, Nonni, Yulai, Jita or wherever there's a 99% chance that the other guy your interacting with is another player. This course of action is as much PvP as if I was to shoot you or vice versa, it's just another version of PvP. It is of course your choice to stay in a n00b corp and miss out on what EVE really is about. This post probably won't change your mind about what you think of EVE or the rest of the playerbase but damn it... DO NOT expect us to feel sorry for you
Drilla	Posted - 2005.07.02 12:05:00 - [50] Taz is absolutely right. And in terms of the gamebox - I'm looking at it right now: The very first line on the front of the box reads: A MASSIVELY MULTIPLAYER ONLINE GAME The game title is EVE Online That's the front alone - there's alot more text on the back and inside. If you cant figure out this is NOT a solo styled game then buuhuu dont come crying here. To the people who actually think this game has a majority of solo styled gamers - think again, how many primary chars are in noob corps again? That's right very few. The vast majority of the 50-60000 characters that's actually being used are being used for teamoriented play. - * pure moinage *
SinBin	Posted - 2005.07.02 12:51:00 - [51] Originally by: Drilla Taz is absolutely right. And in terms of the gamebox - I'm looking at it right now: The very first line on the front of the box reads: A MASSIVELY MULTIPLAYER ONLINE GAME The game title is EVE Online That's the front alone - there's alot more text on the back and inside. If you cant figure out this is NOT a solo styled game then buuhuu dont come crying here. To the people who actually think this game has a majority of solo styled gamers - think again, how many primary chars are in noob corps again? That's right very few. The vast majority of the 50-60000 characters that's actually being used are being used for teamoriented play. They you go again it says mmog on box & you tranlate that into your version of a mmog witch isnt realy a true version, maybe play mmog many differnt way. Imps not saying its solo only wile your instisting its multi only. Still im not saying give solos everything teams can do, im also in the camp that preffers team players to have a much greater advantage & even content, wasnt level 4 ment to be for groups ? yet is easy done solo ?, removing bms will fix that alot. Still I fully relise & see many playing alone, im a haevy online type & its us that are the backbone of most teams as we allways avaliblie for shorter time guys to team up with, level 4 also hurt this as now someone come online want to go attack some in 0.0 but im stuck mid level 4 for the next 4 hours, hehe bluddy level 4s who could think somethnig so nice could have been so bad, why was they ever put in empire ?, madness. _______________________________________ Ill Shutup when CCP remove bookmarks

Eris Discordia	Posted - 2005.07.02 12:54:00 - [52] Keep the replies friendly and respectful I ♥ my pink dreadnought of pwnage Mail [email protected] if you have any questions.

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McBane	Posted - 2005.07.02 13:20:00 - [54] I agree with the original poster. This is a massive multiplayer online game û which brings masses of player online together to play the game. Whether they play solo, team or a mixture is largely irelevent û all player will interact to some degree with other players be it talking in local or simply buying stuff from the market. ItÆs this fact and the fact you have so many all together that creates the community that is Eve û this is what is meant by multiplayer. Now, with that varied community you need to cater for all styles of gameplay û and that does include solo mining, missions and so forth. Solo play does influence other players, just of a deeper less noticeable level û economy, market and so forth rather than direct attacks and trades. Time is what dictates for many their style of play, team play requires a great deal of organisation and investment of time and a lot of waiting around for others. Some people simply do not have time for this û people with a job and family for example. And also bear in mind that even with team based play for many corps there is a lot of time where by your buddies wont be online or there is nothing organised û then you need some solo aspect of the game. I would guess that for most corps there is more solo time than team time of game play. The introduction of level 4 missions was a godsend for the experienced players who preferred solo play as it actually gave them something challenging and rewarding to do û this saved a lot of people quitting the game. CCP are in my opinion making a big mistake next patch by pushing the difficulty of level 4Æs to force team play û this should have been the role of level 5 missions and was already in place via complexes. Making level 4Æs too hard to do solo, will leave a gap of boredom for the solo player in a battleship who will find level 3 missions too easy and unrewarding and level 4Æs not possible. In fact I donÆt think level 4Æs will actually be any more ædifficultÆ, I fear CCP are simply making the rats tank better so that a single ship simple canÆt destroy it. This is a very poor way of adjusting a game so I hope IÆm wrong there. CCP should take care to cater for all levels of solo play, and try not to æenforce itÆ so blatantly. There is a mountain of team play within Eve, and this all comes naturally. As noted in other threads, in general, the players with most time, do most team play and these players also have the most time to represent themselves on these forums. Since the vast majority of forums posters seem hostile to any other style of game play but their own, solo play is thus both under represented and attacked on these forums and it does look like CCP use these forums to help how they develop the game.
Oosel	Posted - 2005.07.02 13:22:00 - [55] while im sure the benefits of grouping are all laid out for us to see i think that the hardened group of vets/pvp'ers who are out in 0.0 and want more peeps to interact with aka gank have now got their wishes....... lvl4's will be gimped in an effort to get people out to 0.0 but it will not have the desired effect as the single players who just come on and chill will go back to lvl3 plain and simple.... does it bother me that i know i will now not bother trainig to get a dread as its useless in empire no it doesnt as i can now carry on at a pace that suits me and not as everyone suggests get a real thrill being podded in 10secs because ive had to go to low sec and have some retard in local tell me how uber he is and how lame i am even in a large corp you will still get people who like nothing more than to log in meet a few buddies and just potter about doing whatever but and its a big but these people will never be forced into 0.0 if they dont want to and its not because they are lame it might just be because the adrenilin rush of constant pvp and always having to watch your back isnt what they want so please bear this in mind all you big groups alliances eve has to cater for all tastes and with this patch it may just have made a step in the right direction but dont write off people staying in empire to do lvl4's because they will now group with friends to do them in empire allowing them to carry on playing the game out of the clutches of uber players with the sole intention of just melting other players hard earned time and effort
Drilla	Posted - 2005.07.02 13:30:00 - [56] Originally by: SinBin mmog on box & you tranlate that into your version of a mmog Actually it doesnt - it reads as I posted - MULTIPLAYER game. Aceept it or go buy Freelancer.
Lig Lira	Posted - 2005.07.02 14:19:00 - [57] What about COSMOS, isn't that something new? What do you guys want? A wider variety of missions?Didn't you get that at the last patch? Cheers
SinBin	Posted - 2005.07.02 15:13:00 - [58] Originally by: Drilla Originally by: SinBin mmog on box & you tranlate that into your version of a mmog Actually it doesnt - it reads as I posted - MULTIPLAYER game. Aceept it or go buy Freelancer. Yea I had freelancer long ago vry nice game but i didnt play it online. You read the few posts above who express even better what im saying, your version of mmog is a very thin a wrong version of what multiplayer means. Accept what ? I do play in big teams & I also solo cos im normaly online all the time avaliable. _______________________________________ Ill Shutup when CCP remove bookmarks
Bezz	Posted - 2005.07.02 15:49:00 - [59] What some people don't realise is that Multi player and/or Massive Multiplayer just means more than 1 person playing at the same time, in the same "enviroment", nothing more. The assumption that it means you have to team up to play is about as wrong as wrong can get.
implanted	Posted - 2005.07.02 16:14:00 - [60] Originally by: Bezz What some people don't realise is that Multi player and/or Massive Multiplayer just means more than 1 person playing at the same time, in the same "enviroment", nothing more. The assumption that it means you have to team up to play is about as wrong as wrong can get. thanks mcbane,bez,oozle and sinbin at last some people with brains who understand wher im coming from

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