Wardecs are perfect as is.
PVP corps can deny industrial corps access to their preferred play style because eve is a harsh and cold universe.

Problem is, it's not harsh and cold for the PVP corp. They get what they want without any consequences. We need a counter mechanic for industrial focused players that provides the same emergent gameplay fun!

I introduce the Marketdec. Corp A can bribe Concord to restrict all market interaction for Corp B. Now pvpers must mine and build their own stuff, thus forcing the industrial playstyle on them.

Same result for the other half of the game.

I'd love to see this mechanic abused. Locking permitless miners out of markets perhaps?

oh, also i think we just all missed the flaw of:

buy goods on an out of corp alt.
contract it to your other character.
totally ignore this entire mechanic.

Now pvpers must mine and build their own stuff, thus forcing the industrial playstyle on them.
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Isn't that all smart players do with wardecs anyway? Stay docked, contract to alts and red frog resulting in a contract and login game that sucks all the fun out?

no, smart players disband and reform the corporation.

This already exists. It's called GÇ£wardecsGÇ¥ and/or GÇ£alliesGÇ¥ and it's available to industrial corps right now.

Not with POS running research jobs.

my wardec immune npc corp laughs at you.

This 1000 times.

They are here for a reason. The same people that cry foul about you keeping an NPC alt would have no hesitation about Awox-ing your corp or disbanding your entire alliance with a meta alt. Don't let others dictate strategy unless you like being a follower.

This 1000 times.

They are here for a reason. The same people that cry foul about you keeping an NPC alt would have no hesitation about Awox-ing your corp or disbanding your entire alliance with a meta alt. Don't let others dictate strategy unless you like being a follower.

not even an npc alt, it's a main character. as the goon so eloquently points out, there's nothing in high sec worth fighting or owning so why not sit in a wardec immune npc corp?

Personally, a few reasons. 1) T2 invention. 2) 0.75 production in a POS 3) JC access to 0.0 PI 4) social aspects

Personally, a few reasons. 1) T2 invention. 2) 0.75 production in a POS 3) JC access to 0.0 PI 4) social aspects

In one war we crippled our enemy by destroying their supply of t3 cruisers. So what you want is already in game.

You don't need a PoS in high sec to produce the things that dominate the marekt. You only need to be in an NPC corp, working out of an NPC station.

That's not what I want though.

I want you to do that and effect the MARKET in that region. Same way hulkagdon effected the market, and how ice interdictions can effect the market. Edit: these are larger impaters than I want high sec corps to have as well. I want to make it clear, I want regional impact, not overal market impact like can be gained through hulkagedon type events.

We can't sustain those though.

Nor does it make the NPC corp industrialist worse than the player run one.

I'm competing with a group of people that literally run high sec industry, and I"m not allowed to impact them? That's rediculous.

If T2 industry, and the refining of high concentration ores was run through a player run station, what happens when you take that station offline?

I don't think it's neccesary to "destroy" the station, but other high sec corps should have the means, in war, to take it offline so it's not usable, and then flip it.

That one system can have significant impact on the market in that region.


High sec industrial corps should be allowed to influence the market through warfare. This core to industrial activity. As an industrialist my goal is to sell as much of my stuff as possible, AT THE BEST PRICE I CAN GET. But I have very little recourse when it comes to enforceing my will upon the market.

The abundance of goods that comes out of any given region by an entire group that can not be impacted, makes it impossible for a high sec corporation to strategically enforce their will in that market.

You can't stop the building.

I like how you think. Lots of great ideas. Agreed, buffs to player corps are a major need along with the making wardecs matter in high sec. And pretty much for the OP. If an industrial corp cannot handle being wardecced, or cannot or will not hire guards. Then realistically speaking, you're failing. Even the lowliest industrial worker can clobber someone with a big freaking wrench. If you get decced by a griefer corp. Grab some cheap frigates, fit some weapons and other modules. Then go swarm them. I notice lots of those griefer corps like to fly more expensive ships since they know they probably won't lose them. So blow some of their ships up and cost them some money and grief.

I dont get these "fight back" folks, have you ever been decced? Wardeccers dont fight to lose, they station hump. Bringing frigates against massively buffer tanked battleships resulting in easy drone kills or docking games while they lulz in local.

I'm looking for an alternative to space combat. They deprive me of my game, meaning I either pvp or dont play. I want a mechanic to return the favor.

I dont get these "fight back" folks, have you ever been decced? Wardeccers dont fight to lose, they station hump. Bringing frigates against massively buffer tanked battleships resulting in easy drone kills or docking games while they lulz in local.

Perhaps an NPC corp would help?